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@Best.Korea
"Young girl" does not mean that Bible says "adult woman".
I know thicky. That is my point. It cleary differentiates between the two.
Given the times there was every chance that Mary the maiden was no more 12 or 14 years of age when the acting "Gabriel" decided to whip a bit of his seed into her.
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@Best.Korea
Bible Exodus 22:16"If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife."Bible does not say "adult woman" in this verse. Bible says "a virgin".
"Virgin" meaning Maiden. Young girl or woman.
Remember those days, when "women" was simply defined as someone of the opposite sex. Now it has to be explained to the dimwit leftards in biological detail. 😂
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@zedvictor4
How old was Mary by the way?
Most biblical scholars put the "immaculate conception" at 12. Regardless, she had no say in the matter going by BIBLICAL accounts. She was too young to understand what the fk was going on, the BIBLE attests to this too, Vic lad.
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@IlDiavolo
So, most of the nonsensical stories in the bible could be explained by the intervention of an alien civilization in the fate of the earth.
There are quite a few biblical stories that when we superimpose todays science over them would certainly make these stories plausible.
An example would be the "creation" of Eve. The biblical story of Eve's creation could easily be likened to cloning.
It's also said that aliens are actually more evolved human beings that did put the human seed in this planet and once in a while they come over to see how we're getting on.
I suppose this could be likened to the biblical "breath of life"
Being said that, there is no need of religions.
When we read the biblical and even much earlier Sumerian accounts we can read clearly that there was no such thing as religion. These "beings" were simply called "Lords" and priests were raised above the general population to serve only them in simply daily tasks and to serve in their homes/temples, just as the bible says.
The Lords taught these chosen to read and write "spelling" and how to count-arithmetic and became learned "men of old".
Jewish Historian Josephus writes of characters such as those of the bloodline of Adam, Enoch and Seth and other of their offspring being highly educated knowing all about the solar system and the movements of the planets, including the some times devastating effects that these "heavenly bodies" have on the earth. - i.e. the were taught "the mysteries of the heavens" which today we simply call space. Josephus refers to it as a "peculiar science".
What do you think? Is Christianity in danger?
Yes.
Christianity has always been in danger of being exposed for the fraud it it is , and more so today.
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@IlDiavolo
Elijah was taken to heaven by a "chariot of fire",
Indeed. There are many refences in the BIBLE to beings coming and going on "clouds" and craft (chariots) that they couldn't explain for lack of understanding .
A bit like this I should imagine:
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@BrotherD.Thomas
@Best.Korea
And can you define "child" in the biblical sense?Person under 10 years of age is a child.And where does the KJ bible define a child as anyone under the age of 10?The Biblical definition of a child is irrelevant to the topic. You were given the definition you can use. Now please stick to the topic.
Nope. One simple question and you are in retreat already.
Now please stick to the topic.
I am sticking with the topic, you clown. Your topic concerns sexual intercourse with a "child"#1. YOU gave us the biblical definition of the word "child" #82 from YOUR "preferred bible" KJV- yet failed to support your claim using the very bible of YOUR OWN preference.
I have also asked you where in YOUR "preferred bible" KJV- does it say that Jesus died on the cross?
But you are far too thick and dense to understand that this is a related question to YOUR own question i.e "where in the bible does it say"? Suggesting that if it is not in the bible then it must be right and correct and sanctioned by god to have sex with a "person under ten years old" because the bible of your own choosing and "preference" doesn't say that it prohibits the vile sick acts with a child that you appear to be attempting to promote.
So I suggest that you go back to post #1 and read this thread- YOUR OWN thread - very carefully, thicko.
Or simply request that this sick thread - YOUR thread- be locked.
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@Best.Korea
Where in the Bible does it say that sex with a child is wrong?Which bible?Feel free to use any, although I prefer King James.
Where in the KJ bible does it say Jesus died on the cross?
And can you define "child" in the biblical sense?Person under 10 years of age is a child.
And where does the KJ bible define a child as anyone under the age of 10?
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@Best.Korea
Where in the Bible does it say that sex with a child is wrong?
Which bible?
And can you define "child" in the biblical sense?
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@Deb-8-a-bull
@BrotherD.Thomas
I'm picturing God building the earth and then realizing he totally forgot about burying weird looking animal bones everywhere in it.
Interesting that you should say that Deb. I was speaking with a Jehovah witness ( that hadn't actually witnessed anything) a few days ago. He was insistent that the earth is only 6,000 years old!
I pointed out to him that it can take anywhere from one billion to three billion years for a diamond to form and 20-30 million years for a ruby. Rubies get 4 mentions in the bible and diamonds 6 mentions.. Of course he insisted that the geological scientist were completely wrong. So I then also had to point out to him from the Bible that Peter has it that " day is a thousand years" in gods time. 2 Peter 3:8
So with " 5 days amounting to" 5,000 god years and with man being created on the sixth and adding the ages of the ten most long lived biblical characters that amounts to 8,575 alone we can see the reckoning of these thick and dumb creationists cannot be anywhere near correct. You see these illiterate thicko's are just simply used to having the bible read and explained to them and interpreted for them rather than reading it for themselves and then asking the right questions and pointing out their flawed claims.
Have a nice day Deb, lad.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
The Reverend Tradesecret wrote:
Yet there are certain factors that begin immediately, such as humility. Humility is the character trait that you don't seem to understand, let alone exhibit.#51
This^^^^^^^ Brother D. from the the same Christian Pastor and Chaplain that also says:
Tradesecret wrote : [Stephen] the serpent, satan, whatever - he is the accuser and you follow after him. you are his disciple. From my point of view - he is slime. You know like the stuff we find after a snail has passed by. creepy. disgusting. Ugly. \ #24Tradesecret wrote: [Stephen] Aftercall, you are the swine and the dogs that trample over the pearls. #36Tradesecret wrote: [Stephen you are] a stupid man. Dumb as fuck. . #161
Yes, Brother D. we can just see the "humility" oozing from our resident hypocrite Reverend, can't we? The same Reverend that aspired to be "more like" the late forum sex pest ethang5; he that was banned from this forum for sexual harassment of members.#16 #26 #39
Tradesecret: "Ethang5is a good friend of mine. I have know him for a significant period of time. And if you think we are like each other, that is a huge compliment for me. If I could be more like him, I would". #76
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@Best.Korea
The proof for evolution doesnt exist. But lets face it, even if you had proof, - I still wouldnt believe in it - because I believe in creation.
And there- in lies your ignorant intolerance to facts and "proof". You are a thick, ignorant and backward as the Reverend Tradesecret, he's just not as boring and tedious as you.
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@YouFound_Lxam
One would have thought that no one had ever heard of homosexuals and we don't know wtf we are sexuals.
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@Greyparrot
I, for one, welcome our new Imam overlords.
They don't care if you do or don't. They are there and more are coming, and they do need your permission either, GP.
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"We have tried warning the West.... we can't help you anymore"
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea wrote: God has promised me to make me an angel. So the future is bright for me
Stephen wrote: Define "Angel"Best.Korea wrote: Irrelevant to topic.
Then stop introducing things into the topic ( YOUR TOPIC) that are irrelevant.
angels are defined in the Bible."Above him stood the seraphim. Each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew.""And from the midst of it came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance: they had a human likeness, but each had four faces, and each of them had four wings. Their legs were straight, and the soles of their feet were like the sole of a calf's foot. And they sparkled like burnished bronze. Under their wings on their four sides they had human hands. And the four had their faces and their wings thus: their wings touched one another.""Then I saw another mighty angel coming down from heaven, wrapped in a cloud, with a rainbow over his head, and his face was like the sun, and his legs like pillars of fire."Hope that helps.
No. It doesn't help. I didn't ask for a description , I asked for a definition.
You really are a bible dunce aren't you. Angel simply means - messenger. Angel derives from the Greek angelos, a translation of a Hebrew word meaning "messenger."
I hope you have learned something.
Off you go know.
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@Best.Korea
And unblock me please.
I don't have you on block . Stop lying. I have already addressed your bullshit on this here> https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/9370-prove-to-me-that-atheism-exists?page=3&post_number=77
I haven't blocked you. Stop telling fkn lies. I think you are hilarious. Why would I block a clown that makes my day. And it was you that changed the direction of the topic, you idiot.
AND YOU HAVE IGNORED THIS TEN TIMES NOW!!
Best.Korea: Yes, God has promised me to make me an angel. So the future is bright for me.
Define "Angel".
I am guessing you forgot that New Testament exists?
Nope . I clearly mentioned the NT above, you have ignored it. here you go thicko,#97
Best.Korea:what Bible says about love.
New Testamant, Jesus tells us we must hate our parents, brothers, sisters, children and even ourselves then we cannot be his disciple.
Luke 14:26
“ If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. ” Luke 14:26
So before telling us to read the bible, try reading it yourself, thicky.😂
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@Best.Korea
Well, you sure like to focus on the violence in the Bible.
That's because after the creation the BIBLE starts with violence and the violence doesn't stop throughout the whole of the OT.
Now try reading what Bible says about love.
CLOWN! 😂
The Old Testament and its god mentions the word "love" only one single time. And that single time is only in reference to Abraham loving his son and - surprise surprise - in relation to another act of violence.
Here you are you absolute bible dunce- the only single time the word love is mentioned in the OT>Genesis 22:2
The Sacrifice of Isaac
He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love.
He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love.
And again:
what Bible says about love.
And in the New Testamant, Jesus tells us we must hate our parents, brothers, sisters, children and even ourselves then we cannot be his disciple.
Luke 14:26
“ If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. ” Luke 14:26
So before telling us to read the bible, try reading it yourself, thicky.😂
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@Best.Korea
Yes, God has promised me to make me an angel. So the future is bright for me.
Define "Angel".
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@Best.Korea
Steven, you blocked me but that didnt prevent you from trying to change the topic.
I haven't blocked you. Stop telling fkn lies. I think you are hilarious. Why would I block a clown that makes my day. And it was you that changed the direction of the topic, you idiot.
Yes, God has promised me to make me an angel. So the future is bright for me.
Define "Angel".
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@BrotherD.Thomas
YOUR QUOTE REGARDING THE "CARPET KISSER" MUSLIM TIGERLORD, AKA, PAPER TIGER: "Has he left, Brother? "No, he unfortunately hasn't left yet,
Oh well. Maybe he isn't what or who he says is, Brother D. There are a few of members here that keep forgetting their passwords to their other personas. The Reverend was famous for it. 😉
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@Best.Korea
If we start by accepting that feelings are true, then God exists because I see Him. He talks to me at night.
Others count sheep at night.
What does he talk to you about? And why only at night?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
tigerlord, aka, Paper Tiger, has to leave DEBATEART Religion Forum under his own admittance .
Has he left, Brother?
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@TWS1405_2
This thread is nothing short of TROLLING!!!
A1
Yep. Its another bullshite meaningless thread created for the sake of creating another meaningless thread.
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea wrote ; Bible is not for the sensitive people, since the Old Testament does contain a little bit of violence."a little bit of violence"!? Are you taking the piss?After the creation , It starts with condemning mankind to death. Then there is the first murder. From that point on the WHOLE of the Old testament is war, bloodshed and conquest and it doesn't stop!. And all at the behest of god. Best.Korea, you are a fkn joke.😂Best.Korea wrote ;Okay, we get it, there is some violence. Yeah, horrible, okay, but necessary.The Old testamant is all violence, murder ,war bloodshed and conquest , not just "some violence"There are a total of 2,821,364 deaths that are specifically recorded in the Old Testamant as either directly orchestrated by God, or carried out with his assistance or approval.Satan, on the other hand, has only 10 kills, <<< and these ten are sanctioned by god too."Some violence" my arse!Best.Korea wrote So what. Nobody cares.
Can you prove that no one cares?
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@Best.Korea
Best.Korea wrote ; Bible is not for the sensitive people, since the Old Testament does contain a little bit of violence."a little bit of violence"!? Are you taking the piss?After the creation , It starts with condemning mankind to death. Then there is the first murder. From that point on the WHOLE of the Old testament is war, bloodshed and conquest and it doesn't stop!. And all at the behest of god. Best.Korea, you are a fkn joke.😂Best.Korea wrote ;Okay, we get it, there is some violence. Yeah, horrible, okay, but necessary.
The Old testamant is all violence, murder ,war bloodshed and conquest , not just "some violence"
There are a total of 2,821,364 deaths that are specifically recorded in the Old Testamant as either directly orchestrated by God, or carried out with his assistance or approval.
Satan, on the other hand, has only 10 kills, <<< and these ten are sanctioned by god too.
"Some violence" my arse!
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@Best.Korea
Bible is not for the sensitive people, since the Old Testament does contain a little bit of violence.
"a little bit of violence"!? Are you taking the piss?
After the creation , It starts with condemning mankind to death. Then there is the first murder. From that point on the WHOLE of the Old testament is war, bloodshed and conquest and it doesn't stop!. And all at the behest of god.
Best.Korea, you are a fkn joke.😂
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@Saniton
Reply: You seem to be confused about the timeline of my account ofBob’s relationship with the Church.
Nope. Regardless of timeline "husband Bob" appears to have only excommunicated himself when - you say- he didn't like how a few Nuns were being treated in regards to Nuns" reaching out to homosexuals". You say- "He almost entered the priesthood, but, fortunately for me, he decided against that" #196. And you say it was because of the Nuns story that "stopped him entering the priesthood" in 2012 #202
Here>
Saniton wrote: Bob's break with the Roman Catholic Church happened in 2012 in the wake of the events described here: "Nuns Speak About Vatican Criticism - The New York Times (nytimes.com) #202
The rape and sexual assaults and buggery of children in the Catholic Church has been going on for absolute decades but this appears to have been ignored by husband Bob.
Not to mention all of that hard earned cash handed over in donations to the RC Church by devout , good and honest Catholics to help "the poor" being spent on pay-offs and compensation in settlements to the victims of "men of god", <<< that too seems to have flown over husband Bob's head that spent years studying for his "M.Div from a Catholic seminary"#191 at the last count these settlements amounted to more than $3 billion!!!!!!. I can imagine what it would be like if all of than money had gone to the causes that it was actually intended for.
You didn't answer this>
Do not god's priorities and commands come before anyone else?
I don't give two hoots whether God calls homosexuality an abomination.
I know. But what does apostate and Master of Divinity Bob think about it? #191
And while we are at it, instead of reminding me that there are two L's in Russell#202, learn to use the quote punctuation icon. It can be found above under the word Text* above and on every single page when making a reply and looks like the number 66 and is forth icon along. It makes the exchange in conversation a little more precise and clear.
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@Saniton
Saniton wrote: Now can we quit calling each other stupid and benighted? #19
And then;
Saniton wrote: take your sanctimonious bitching about my husband's priorities and park it where the sun don't shine. #206
Dearie me. HYPOCRITE!!
So you say that Bob the husband stayed with the church because neither god, Mary or Jesus raped anyone.
Saniton wrote: Bob had a big problem with rape in the church--he just didn't believe that God, Jesus, or Mary ever raped or molested children, and consequently stayed with the church for that reason. So you can take your sanctimonious bitching about my husband's priorities and park it where the sun don't shine. #206
He also stayed all the while priests where raping and buggering children but didn't draw the line and "break away" until few Nuns - you say - "reached out to the "gay" homosexual community!? #193
I think your Bob story is absolute bollocks. And this is why:
Pope Francis calls for end to anti-gay laws and LGBTQ+ welcome from church
This article is more than 3 months old
LGBTQ+ advocates hail Pope’s rejection of sexual orientation as crime and call to bishops to resist anti-gay laws as ‘milestone’
“Being homosexual isn’t a crime,” Francis said on Tuesday in an interview.
Francis acknowledged that Catholic bishops in some parts of the world support laws that criminalise homosexuality or discriminate against LGBTQ+ people, and he himself referred to the issue in terms of “sin”. But he attributed such attitudes to cultural backgrounds and said bishops in particular need to undergo a process of change to recognise the dignity of everyone.
Further reading.
If you had checked out you bullshite story about Bob the husband before typing, you would have known that the gripe that the Nuns had was that they were not allowed to bishops or cardinals.. and didn't have much, if anything to do with "reaching out to "gay" homosexuals.
God has said that homosexuality is abomination punishable by death, but you and Bob the Catholic husband are telling god to "park it where the sun don't shine".
Bob had a big problem with rape in the church
But didn't leave the church because of the violent rapes and sexual assaults by his brethren against children though did he!!!!?? . No, he "broke away" ONLY when -YOU SAY - he didn't like how a few Nuns were being treated in regards to "reaching out to homosexuals".
Do not god's priorities and commands come before anyone else?
Bob seems all very rather confused about his priorities. And just like YOU Bob is also a fkn HYPOCRITE!
I don't give two hoots whether God calls homosexuality an abomination.
Homosexuals before innocent children. Bob needs to go back and re- take his M.Div that you brag about on his behalf.
Nighty night. HYPOCRITE!
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@FLRW
Best have another billion year investigation into Melania Trump costing billions of dollars, then FLRW. ....so everyone can ignore the corruption of the Biden's and Clinton's.
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@Saniton
Stephen: "Russel was an out 'n' out atheist. And a tea cup has never orbited the moon - unless an astronaut or cosmonaut was holding one on his trips into space."For a reference to Russell's "technical agnosticism," please read this article. Bertrand Russell and F.C. Copleston Debate the Existence of God, 1948 | Open CultureI never said that a teacup orbited the moon in 1924. Kindly read the post.
I did. And I have read much of Russell too. He was an out "n" out atheist.
Still, this thread is concerning if or not god is "good or wicked". So do you think this "mythical" god is Good or Wicked?
Stephen: "I think you mean the homosexual community.""Homosexual" and "gay" are synonymous in modern American English. This is common knowledge.
Do you agree with this because it softens the blow of the act that God calls an "abomination"?
"And this breakaway was recent was it?"Bob's break with the Roman Catholic Church happened in 2012 in the wake of the events described here: "Nuns Speak About Vatican Criticism - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Your link is not very informative as to what you claim above ie:
Saniton wrote: when it [Catholic Church]silenced a group of nuns who were reaching out to the gay [ homosexual] community. #193
How were the Nuns "reaching out to the homosexual community"?
Bob's break with the Roman Catholic Church happened in 2012
I see.
So your husband Bob had no problem with priests raping and buggering children of both sexes for absolutely decades, but he only felt that "enough was enough" when a group of Nuns - you say - "reached out to the "gay" homosexual community!? #193 . At least we know your husband Bob's priorities.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
@Saniton,YOUR CONTRADICTING QUOTE OF STUPIDITY: [aniton wrote: ] "In the story of Adam and Eve, which, as an atheist-agnostic, I take to be mythical, God did not lie when he said that Adam and Eve would surely die. Although he did not strike either of his first humans dead, he did make them mortal, such that the number of years they lived was mentioned later in Genesis."BrotherD.Thomas wrote: First you tell us that you are a comical "Atheist-Agnostic" whose philosophical position is you don't believe in the existence of a god and because gods are unknowable in principle of fact. Then you remove one foot from your mouth to insert the other when you blatantly state that the God within Genesis did not lie when he said that Adam and Eve would surely die, which is taking a position of this god existing as a given fact! GET IT? Huh?
Indeed brother D. It appears that our "new" member Saniton wants to play both sides of the net.
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@zedvictor4
Bollocks.
Yep. Wrong in both images, Vic lad.
Two old Coppers musing, late evening,Radio crackles,Control to ZedVictor 4.
You are the one with the phonetic monica, Vic lad.😉
When do you fancy a ride out to my little town then Vic?
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I'm an atheist-agnostic.Really!? So you categorically do not believe in the existence of god, while stating that you don't know if there is or is not a god.Famous atheist Bertrand Russell considered himself technically agnostic. [...........................] he compared the likelihood of God's existence to the likelihood of a teacup orbiting the Moon
Russel was an out 'n' out atheist. And a tea cup has never orbited the moon - unless an astronaut or cosmonaut was holding one on his trips into space.
I'm married to a Christian who has an M.Div from a Catholic seminary.So what is he?He was a CatholicBut what was his capacity in the Roman church?He was a parishioner. [.............]He was a Catholic for many years but broke from the Church when it silenced a group of nuns who were reaching out to the gay community. Enough was enough.
I think you mean the "homosexual community".
And this breakaway was recent was it?
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@Saniton
I'm an atheist-agnostic.
Really!? So you categorically do not believe in the existence of god, while stating that you don't know if there is or is not a god.
I'm married to a Christian who has an M.Div from a Catholic seminary.So what is he?He was a Catholic
But what was his capacity in the Roman church?
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@Saniton
I'm married to a Christian who has an M.Div from a Catholic seminary.
So what is he?
I'm an atheist-agnostic.
Really!? So you categorically do not believe in the existence of god, while stating that you don't know if there is or is not a god.
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@Math_Enthusiast
Oh look! Tradesecret ran away! It's like you said!
Yes. You will find this with the Reverend Tradesecret. He goes away for a while once he has been caught on the backfoot after painting himself into a corner and stuck for genuine logical responses but then returns all refreshed and ready to spout to you, more contradictions, denials, lies and simply utter bullshite.
You have to remember that you are engaging with a a contradictory bible dunce that tells us that he doesn't even:
"believe in religion and wished it abolished" and that " the bible is just a book full of words that can't do anything". <<<<<<THIS from a minister, a Chaplain and a Pastor of the church!
Math_Enthusiast, you are dealing with a compulsive lying sociopath with a terrible personality disorder when engaging with the Reverend Tradesecret.
Good luck. Nice to see you here.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen, seriously, i think Miss Tradesecret goes out of her way to be Bible Stupid because she likes to be corrected by us and the other members, because this act of her Bible ineptness is the only thing that she is known for within this Religion Forum!
That's crossed my mind a few times, Brother D.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Whereas Jesus tells me in prayer to correct Miss Tradesecret's Bible Stupidity because He says that she is giving His faith of Christianity a bad name!
I have corrected then Reverend bible dunce Tradesecret many, many, many times because of his serious lack biblical knowledge Brother D...but it wasn't on the instructions of your lord Jesus. No. It was simply because I had read the bible and that the Reverend twatington Tradesecret hadn't.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
As seen ad infinitum, she [The reverend Tradesecret] NEVER, and I repeat, NEVER uses biblical citations to support her opinions, whereas in the name of my serial killer Jesus,I DO give biblical passages to support my statements, and at her embarrassing expense!
You do indeed Brother D. And only a cretin will deny that fact.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen, we've talked about this many times, where we don't know how Miss Tradesecret can sleep at night in being so Bible Stupid, and in passing this on to her congregation that doesn't know any better, where they will certainly pay upon Judgment Day along with Miss Tradesecret!
The Reverend Tradesecret talks for the sake of it Brother D. and no other reason. S/he ran out of steam a long time ago. He's been exposed by me many times for the liar he is, and his bible duncery is beyond belief. No one really wants to engage with the idiot (especially me), he can never hold his own and simply turns to more lies in the belief this somehow compensates for his lack of anything slightly intelligent to say.
When the Reverend blocked me did me, he a great favour. But this is another thing that compulsive liars are prone to do. They will cut off their own nose to spite their face. I can do without the twat.
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@n8nrgim
can a christian who is saved decide not to be saved?
FFS!
Why ever would a devout religious Christian decide not to be saved!? Isn't that the whole point of religious belief and devotion to the Lord Jesus Christ?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Tradesecret wrote:#87 "Yes, Brother and Stephen are obsessed with me. I see that as a compliment. They dislike me. They speak about me every day. I wonder whether they secretly worship me. I think Brother prays to me. He shouldn't. But since I am on his lips constantly, it does worry me. And Stephen. WOW! Everytime someone NEW comes on the scene like David - Stephen immediately thinks that is me. He can't live without me. He worries about me. I think he dreams about me. Gee, I hate that I have got so much under his skin. Perhaps that is the Holy Spirit but maybe it's something else. And Stephen hates - yes loathes the idea that I am a lawyer, a reverend and a chaplain. It's bogus, isn't it? But for someone born in '54 or '55, I suppose that makes sense. Imagine someone with "smarts" being religious. How dare they?"
Brother D. have you ever heard such childish gibberish in all of your life!?
Perhaps you should read my book?
FK ME ! he's a published author now, too. 🤣
And this shite!
Tradesecret wrote:I hate that I have got so much under his skin.
The Reverend Clown must have forgotten that it was he that blocked me! ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@n8nrgim
is it necessary for christians to forgive people who are unrepentant?
Unrepentant: do you mean forgive sins/ crimes of any one, people we don't even know?
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@zedvictor4
Hi Stephen.I don't think that Jesus and his Middle Eastern acolytes were keen on non-believers either.
I agree. And it wasn't just non believers, the god of Christians hated any foreigner too. I have shown that to be the case many times and from the bible. , Vic lad. Most recent being here>>#18
But we are talking Islam here. And I did make the clear (as I have also done many times) that the "Holy" OT bible in particular is as vile and as violent as the the "Holy" Quran. Most recent here>>#81 And the New Testament also makes it clear that Jesus came only for the salvation of the Jews. Matthew 15:24
What Christians have done in the dim and distant in the name of their "Lord Jesus" is just as bad as some Muslims are doing today in the name of their god. One only has to slightly scratch the surface of what has been going on "recently" in Sudan and the plight of Christians to know what the conflict is really all about.
On the plus side, I think that there are still a lot of reasonably sensible people about.
There are. I have met hundreds.
Best just to steer clear of the nutters, and definitely don't discuss religion in public.....Well, choose your spot and your audience, if you do.
I am not a supporter of any religion. But sometimes, in our present climate these things have to be discussed openly and honestly. I have never attempted to convert anyone. I have never encouraged anyone to disbelieve, either. I have simply discussed scriptures asked questions and gave my opinion.
Theist take offence Vic lad when I haven't even offered or intended any. And what's more ridiculous, is that theist take offence from each other.
Hope you and Mrs V are doing well my mate.
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@Path2Paradise
"born Muslim" - that doesn't speak Arabic, so there isn't much chance of turning to anyone then is there, you clown?did you speak fluent english or know how to eat as soon as you were born? no, you learnt it, just like how you can learn arabic you numbskull
Exactly. And it wasn't Arabic.
Why would I speak Arabic if I was born in England 68 years ago? Why would I want to speak any other language other than my mother tongue? Will I be condemned by Allah because I didn't and don't, speak Arabic!?
Yep. Its spreading all over the world, bringing with it it's backward, dangerous and violent culture and carrying out the word of Allah to the letter. Muslims-in the name of Islam - hasn't even began to show us what it is they are capable of doing in the name of Allah. Christians did practically the same for hundreds of years but with one slight, seemingly (and important) difference.The Quran is a vile book as is the Old Testamant.keep talking, you're going to regret everything you say on the day of judgment
And will my "judgment" be dealt with by god's hand or those of humans (Muslims)?
i proved that the Quran doesnt use disbelief as a justification to kill someone
You have proven no such thing.
The god Allah and the self made prophet Muhammad commands that Muslims kill disbelievers.
PEACEFULMY ARSE! Quran 4:89 - Theywish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike.So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for thecause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill themwherever you find them and take not from among them any ally orhelper.
PEACEFULMY ARSE! Quran8:12 - "Iwill cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Thereforestrike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them".
PEACEFULMY ARSE! Quran3:56 - "Asto those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony inthis world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."
PEACEFULMY ARSE!. Quran 8:39
Andfight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all ofit, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing ofwhat they do.
Andfight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all ofit, is for Allah. And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing ofwhat they do.
Off you go now.
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@tigerlord
and those son of monkeys have nothing at all.#83
What are "son's of a monkeys"?
islam is spreading very fast in korea.#83
Yep. Its spreading all over the world, bringing with it it's backward, dangerous and violent culture and carrying out the word of Allah to the letter. Muslims-in the name of Islam - hasn't even began to show us what it is they are capable of doing in the name of Allah. Christians did practically the same for hundreds of years but with one slight, seemingly (and important) difference.
One has to hand it to the devout Muslims. They do exactly what their god and their "holy" book commands them to do.
And for me this is a genuine fear and not an irrational one.
On the other hand Christians appear pick and choose which parts of their "holy" book they decide to abide by. Thankfully, Christianity has moved on since those dark and distant days.
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@Path2Paradise
Dont worry, you were born muslim.you will turn back to him in the future, he knows in your heart that you want to turn back to Allah
"born Muslim" - that doesn't speak Arabic, so there isn't much chance of turning to anyone then is there, you clown?
The Quran is a vile book as is the Old Testamant.
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@Path2Paradise
its been nice debating with you and Inshallah you have a good week.
And it has been a pleasure showing you to be speaking out of your arse.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Tradesecret wrote: At the moment in the 2 at the manse - we are looking at Ephesians.................#26
Ephesians 5:3 New International Version
"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people".
What was it s/he said about her/his own sexual deviance and sexual experimentation, Brother D.?
Tradesecret wrote: I used various substances and I experimented sexually in a variety of ways.
I wonder if Brother D. , that while the Reverend Tradesecret and his bible discussion group are studying Ephesians if he happens to confess any of his own depraved sexual immorality, such as he does here ?
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