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@Tradesecret
and by the way - I never said it was a criminal offence to talk about gender. I was talking about it being illegal to talk to someone about whether they are confused about their gender. you may not appreciate the difference but the legislation does.
Stop playing semantics. This is what you have literally wrote.
Tradesecrete wrote #50 " In Australia, and in Victoria, for you to ask that question unless you are a qualified GP and counsellor, is a criminal offence".
And let us not forget that you also live in New Zealand and speak Greek too TRADESECRET-BIO-FEMALE.jpg (1847×967) (ibb.co)
I see your little break from the forum has done nothing for your personality disorder.
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@Shila
This should be a good one.
Yes it should. I find it strange that s/he has chosen to point out that it is in Victoria that it is a crime and not his/her home state of Melbourne. S/he's probably forgot where s/he actually lives this week.
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@Tradesecret
shila Wrote: Are you really confused about your gender?Tradesecret wrote: In Australia, and in Victoria, for you to ask that question unless you are a qualified GP and counsellor, is a criminal offence.
Can you show us the legislation that states it is a criminal offence in Victoria Australia to ask a person about their gender. Considering that you are a criminal lawyer it shouldn't be too difficult.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen,Question: do you think that the esteemed moderators of DEBATEART are joking around with us in letting the Bible dunderhead Shila be a part of this religion forum? Or, are they allowing Shila to stay here to show what NOT to be like if you want to call yourself a Christian? As we easily agree, as if ethang5 and Tradesecret weren't obtuse enough relative to the JUDEO-Christian Bible, then comes along Shila waving the flag of their Bible stupidity as well!
Every village has its idiot, Brother D.
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@Shila
--> @BrotherD.ThomasHere we thought Miss Tradesecret was a bible fool,Every champion loses eventually, Brother D.Will Brother D. accept your consolation? Was he your champion?
I see you missed the subject in question. But when don't you?
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Here we thought Miss Tradesecret was a bible fool,
Every champion loses eventually, Brother D.
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@Shila
Yes I did notice . The Persian men are rejecting Islam too. .
Go look at the recent you tube videos posted about the protests and riots. Even the police are even fighting among themselves now!
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@Shila
You forgot Jesus’s status changed after the resurrection.
I see. And what was his status after the resurrection?
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@Shila
--> @Shila--> @ShilaGet a grip ffs!My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.The hijab is just a face covering. The women are not burning their Qurans. Women in Iran want to be appreciated for their beauty and not be forced to coverup. We haven’t heard the ugly ones speak yet. They could justify the use of the hijab If they are the majority.
Well as usual, you are deeply ignorant of the facts.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
Stephen,Okay, come clean! Since my departure there seems to be an equally bible fool called Shila relative to Miss Tradesecret as I have personally shown in this thread alone! Is this Tradesecret in disguise because her original moniker was too embarrassing to keep anymore because we and others easily made her the Bible fool?
The answer to that question Brother D. is, who knows. Only He, she, other or something else only knows. But you are correct in that responses from shila all appear to be very bible ignorant and Tradey-esque.
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@Shila
--> @ShilaGet a grip ffs!My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.The Persian women are rejecting the hijab.you can see them throwing their hijabs into the public fire pits.
Yes, I know. It was this ejection of Islam that I was highlighting. It is going to come at a high price to many more too.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
It's like DEBATEART has a sign out front stating "Welcome Bible stupid Christians to make yourselves fools in front of the truly biblical astute members that will easily bury you and your Bible stupidity!"
Many a true word said in jest, Brother D. The religion sub forum did go quiet for a time a few months ago. So much so that a thread was created asking about the absence of certain members>>>What happened. (debateart.com)
I had been away myself and the multi faced Tradesecret had, I am assuming, went sick again at the same time as you and I were absent. The place looked like a ghost town on my return.
I notice too that you the 'new' bible ignorant clown, shila, hasn't slipped under your radar.
Good to see you back Brother D. You were missed even though some here won't admit it.
@ shila.Therefore, our Bible flood in Genesis is copying the Babylonian epic of Gilgamesh, therefore is DOES NOT corroborate the Biblical flood, understood?
I did mention this fact to the bible clown Brother D. Here >>>#26
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@Shila
Get a grip ffs!
My point here is that' Persians' are openly rejecting Islam. And the death of this young women at the hands of the ' Islamic morality police' appears to have been the catalyst.
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@Best.Korea
Protests have broken out across Iran over the death of Mahsa Amini, 22, held by morality police for 'unsuitable attire',
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@Greyparrot
Anne Boleyn
Queen Anne Boleyn of England 1533 to 1536, second wife of King Henry VIII.
Why can't Tyson Fury play Muhammad Ali?
Or
Ricki Gervase play Martin Luther King
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I have been saying for years what this calm an collected lady has to say concerning "reparations". It is the first time I personally have seen anyone state these facts live on air.
Hilary Fordwich. Royal Commentator.
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@Shila
Very rare for me to read fiction. But I was bought the books as a present by the grandchildren for Christmas, ( I felt obligated to read them) but was quite surprised to find that there is quite a lot of British and other history woven through the books/ series of the G of T. The red wedding was inspired by the black wedding that happened in Scotland. War of the Roses is another.
The tv series fell off for me after Season 4 and didn't compare to the books in any way. I have read that the two producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, aka Dumb & Dumber ran out of material? hard to believe considering the books runs into what seem like a billion of pages.
It didn't help that the author pissed off to write masses of other stuff before completing Song of Ice and Fire.... which still hasn't been completed. The dedicated ardent fans must feel cheated.
Won't bother with this new woke shite called House of The Dragon. FKN woke brigade just can't leave fk all alone, can they.
Good night.
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@Shila
Nope I was still talking my grandchildren and Game of Thrones. You are just far too fk dumb to realise that.
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@Shila
--> @Shila@Shila--> @ShilaIs that how you keep your grandchildren stupid so you can read their books?They, like you just love fantasy and fiction. . That is why I recommended the New Testament to them. They of course they grew up and out of it like most level-headed people do.You on the other hand haven't got past the belief of a dead, three days old, rotting stinking corpse of a man coming back to life, stage.And you never will if your posts concerning the bible are anything to go by.You don’t know what you are setting up your children for.I am not setting them up for anything.You posted: “That is why I recommended the New Testament to them.”.Yes, because, thicko, I said; it was right up their street at the time they bought G of T books for me adding that they loved fiction and fantasy. But now they have grown up.Here, a little maths puzzle for you. The last book of the series of Ice and Fire was released 2012. The two granddaughters that brought me this book ( A Dance of Dragons) were aged 13 and 15. I also said that they had now grown up. How old are my two girls now, thicky?Your two girls are each 10 years older (23 and 25 respectively)
Hence, they do not believe in dragons and magic swords any longer (if they did in the first place?) no more than they do a dead and rotting stinking three days old corpse coming back to life, as you still do.
I won't be responding to the rest of your post simply because this is someone else's thread and not a religious thread.But you expect your two girls to believe this is a religious thread.
Nope, thicko. Learn to read. This is not a thread about religion so I wouldn't expect them to do that. This is a thread about a TV series based on a collection of fictitious books.
If you want to discuss your other religious comments start your own thread in the appropriate sub forum. I am not prepared to derail someone else's thread simply to accommodate your religious and ignorant bullshite.
Now, off you go.
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@Shila--> @ShilaIs that how you keep your grandchildren stupid so you can read their books?They, like you just love fantasy and fiction. . That is why I recommended the New Testament to them. They of course they grew up and out of it like most level-headed people do.You on the other hand haven't got past the belief of a dead, three days old, rotting stinking corpse of a man coming back to life, stage.And you never will if your posts concerning the bible are anything to go by.You don’t know what you are setting up your children for.I am not setting them up for anything.You posted: “That is why I recommended the New Testament to them.”.
Yes, because, thicko, I said; it was right up their street at the time they bought G of T books for me adding that they loved fiction and fantasy. But now they have grown up.
Here, a little maths puzzle for you. The last book of the series of Ice and Fire was released 2012. The two granddaughters that brought me this book ( A Dance of Dragons) were aged 13 and 15. I also said that they had now grown up. How old are my two girls now, thicky?
I won't be responding to the rest of your post simply because this is someone else's thread and not a religious thread.
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@Shila
--> @ShilaIs that how you keep your grandchildren stupid so you can read their books?They, like you just love fantasy and fiction. . That is why I recommended the New Testament to them. They of course they grew up and out of it like most level-headed people do.You on the other hand haven't got past the belief of a dead, three days old, rotting stinking corpse of a man coming back to life, stage.And you never will if your posts concerning the bible are anything to go by.You don’t know what you are setting up your children for.
I am not setting them up for anything.
Matthew 10:33 But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.
Well, that is Peter burning in hell then.
Learn your bible, you clown. “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures" (Matt. 22:29)
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@RationalMadman,
He is probably mentally ill...
Yes, that new favourite "mentally ill. It is the new excuse for these vicious attacks of late.
If a western man did this to a Sheikh's coffin, he would be lashed, stoned, kicked and made a vicious example of.
Have you been reading what has been happening in Leicester over the last three weeks. You be hard pressed to find much about it on MSM.
Here is your starter for 10. Three weeks ago, Pakistan lost to India at cricket. The Pakistanis weren't happy about, by all accounts. At least it is cricket that is said to be the cause of the riots between Hindus and Muslims of that city.
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@Shila
Is that how you keep your grandchildren stupid so you can read their books?
They, like you just love fantasy and fiction. . That is why I recommended the New Testament to them. They of course they grew up and out of it like most level-headed people do.
You on the other hand haven't got past the belief of a dead, three days old, rotting stinking corpse of a man coming back to life, stage.
And you never will if your posts concerning the bible are anything to go by.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
think you may be just looking at the next President of the USA in De Santis.DeSantis? With that little squeaky voice?
It matters not the pitch of his voice, my mate. It's if he acts on what he says or not, instead of the lip service we here in the Uk have been fed by consecutive governments.
The UK is so fucked up now with that terrible leadership you’ve had.
I totally agree with you. Ever since the labour government of Tony Blair & Gordon Brown and their open immigration policies for personal gain my country has rapidly turned to shite. And, incidentally. both thistle- arsed bstds to boot, that's Scottish to you.
You are isolated, and nobody wants to be with you, not even Scotland.
I agree again. It seems to me that you have understood the causes of the deterioration of my land better than you do your own country, assuming you are American. It is a crying shame that you will learn nothing from my government's mistakes but instead will wait until your own country is turned into the shithole that sadly my country now is.
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What's bizzare about it?Well, to start he didn’t let anyone know he was doing it except FOX News.
That's probably because no other fkn news channel doesn't want to cover the invasion at the border that Camel Harris is in big denial about.
He’s not trying to help these people he’s executing a political stunt with children.
From what I have seen they are for the best part, adult males.
Now that it has blown up in his face he is pretending he was doing this out of the goodness of his heart rather than trolling the libs.
Its matter of opinion if it has blown up in his face or not. Why shouldn't these multi rich bstrds put up with just a handful of the millions that have ILLIGALLY crossed your boarder?
I think you may be just looking at the next President of the USA in De Santis.
I hope we here - UK - get someone with as much balls as him. Is all we get here is lip service.
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@Athias
My cousin recommended the "A Song of Ice and Fire" series to me in the 90's and I wanted nothing to do with it because I wasn't much of a fantasy reader.
Very rare for me to read fiction. But I was bought the books as a present by the grandchildren for Christmas, ( I felt obligated to read them) but was quite surprised to find that there is quite a lot of British and other history woven through the books/ series of the G of T. The red wedding was inspired by the black wedding that happened in Scotland. War of the Roses is another.
The tv series fell off for me after Season 4 and didn't compare to the books in any way. I have read that the two producers David Benioff and D.B. Weiss, aka Dumb & Dumber ran out of material? hard to believe considering the books runs into what seem like a billion of pages.
It didn't help that the author pissed off to write masses of other stuff before completing Song of Ice and Fire.... which still hasn't been completed. The dedicated ardent fans must feel cheated.
Won't bother with this new woke shite called House of The Dragon. FKN woke brigade just can't leave fk all alone, can they.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
bizarre step
What's bizzare about it?
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Muhammad Khan, 28, has been charged after a man left the queue of mourners and approached the coffin in Westminster Hall on Friday night.
Leicester Square stabbings: Man charged with attempted murder after two police officers attacked in London
One officer was stabbed in the head and neck and another in the arm. London Mayor Sadiq Khan said it was a reminder of the risk all officers take when they put on their uniform.
One officer was stabbed in the head and neck and another in the arm. London Mayor Sadiq Khan said it was a reminder of the risk all officers take when they put on their uniform.
Mohammed Rahman, 24, was charged with the offence in connection with an attack on a male constable who was knifed in the neck and chest in Leicester Square at 6am on Friday.
'Muhammad' sure gets about doesn't he.
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@SkepticalOne
@Tarik I apparently gave you too much credit when assuming you had passing knowledge of the Bible
In the case of the Christian, I found that to be a complete misnoma.
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--> @Shila--> @TarikWrong, please don’t speak for me.SkepticalOne: There is quite a difference between speaking for you and pointing out flaws in your reasoning. I was doing the latter. Do you plan to provide any defense?So you were thinking for Tarik which is worse than speaking for him.You are absolutely terrible at understanding what you are reading, aren't you?Odd that you would attack me when the person who can help you is SkepticalOne.
I don't need help in reading. But you certainly do. Can you show me where SkepticalOne is doing anyone's "thinking" for them? What's more can you show me where SkepticalOne even says he is "thinking for" someone else?
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@Shila
--> @TarikWrong, please don’t speak for me.SkepticalOne: There is quite a difference between speaking for you and pointing out flaws in your reasoning. I was doing the latter. Do you plan to provide any defense?So you were thinking for Tarik which is worse than speaking for him.
You are absolutely terrible at understanding what you are reading, aren't you?
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@Shila
I am not arguing about what the bible states about spiritual death. I am arguing the fact that you have stated that the bible should be taken literal and not metaphorically. HERE>>>#73 What's more, you have even recognised and admitted that Jesus spoke in parables. HERE>>#76 but then amazingly, and in the same sentence you immediately follow that up with this;
"But the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally and not metaphorically".
A parable is simply short fictitious story that illustrates a moral attitude, or a principle usually used only as an instructive example.
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-> @ShilaYou are simply ignoring what I have written.Jesus didn't once utter the words let the SPIRITUAL dead bury the dead, now did he.Luke 9:60King James Version60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.The story is metaphorical, there -by proving the bible is not, as you insist, to be taken literally at all times. Here is an example from scripture that should prove my point.The wayward son.Luke 15:24 " For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry."So we see, the son was neither literally lost nor literally dead, was he? These are simple idioms and not to be taken literal as you keep insisting. The son simply defied his father, went off to explore the world outside the tent and apparently found it to be shite so returned home full of apologiesHow can spiritually dead be metaphorical when the Bible speaks about it literally?
But the BIBLE doesn't actually and literally state "spiritual dead" now does it!? I have agreed that the MEANING is referring to those not in his circle or those that didn't believe him were seen to be dead as in the case of Lazarus. Lazarus had simply lost faith in the cause and wanted out until Jesus went and spoke with him.... after lingering down by the river for a few extra days after hearing the sad news of the "death" of his friend. He certainly didn't rush back to "resurrect" the disciple he loved so much, did he?
I feel the frustration that Jesus must have felt when his thicko disciples didn't have a clue about what he was trying to convey to them. But in this instance and in your case, you just cannot admit that the bible is full of metaphor, figurative speaking, symbolism, allegory, parables and idioms. Not to mention local and colloquial terms of phrase, of which there are many examples in THE BIBLE!
When Jesus warned his circle of followers of “the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees,” they thought he was speaking of literal bread rather than of their teachings. Jesus said he was "the bread of life" but he wasn't a loaf, was he? Jesus said "“I am the door of the sheep” but he wasn't a literal door and those he was addressing were not literal sheep. Jesus would sometimes admit he was speaking in parable at other times he didn't.
“But now, O Lord, you are our Father; we are the clay, and you are our potter; ". Are you literal clay and is god a literal simple potter?
The bible says of itself “Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path". But is it not literally a lamp or is it literally sharp.
It still amazes me that in the 21st century that there are people that still believe that Jesus LITERALLY turned water into wine and literally walked on water. You are in for a very hard time trying to understand what is going on in the scriptures if your foundation is that the bible is LITERALLY true in every word and way.
I could go on, but I feel I am wasting both our time.... especially my own.
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@Shila
You are simply ignoring what I have written.
Jesus didn't once utter the words let the SPIRITUAL dead bury the dead, now did he.
Luke 9:60
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60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
The story is metaphorical, there -by proving the bible is not, as you insist, to be taken literally at all times. Here is an example from scripture that should prove my point.
The wayward son.
Luke 15:24 " For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry."
So we see, the son was neither literally lost nor literally dead, was he? These are simple idioms and not to be taken literal as you keep insisting. The son simply defied his father, went off to explore the world outside the tent and apparently found it to be shite so returned home full of apologies.
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@the witch
If you're not actively hating
You are the only single person on this whole forum that spends her demented time hating everyone.
I honestly believe you that are ill , Witch. Are there no wings of bat or toes of newt healing potions that you can take?
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--> @Shila@ShilaShila, wrote: All the more reason to take the Bible/Genesis literally. It applies to every aspect and deepest truths of human essence.Should it be taken literally at all times? Or just some of the time?But the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally and not metaphorically.So how does a dead person bury another dead person?Some of the people of the world are dead to Christ. They do not see His beauty, nor do they hear His voice or desire to follow Him. Only His “sheep” will do those things (John 10:27). The people of the world are those whom the Savior describes here as the (spiritually) dead who should bury the (physically) dead. Let people, He says, who are not interested in My work, and who are “dead in sin” (Ephesians 2:1), take care of the dead. Your duty is now to follow Me.I agree. I have argued here many times that "let the dead bury the dead" Luke 9:60 is simply metaphorical. IE. anyone outside of Jesus' circle were simply called "the dead" and those that joined his cause were the "living". So, this is not a literal "dead" and not to be taken literally, is it? So, are you still saying that" the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally#76Let the spiritually dead bury the dead should be taken literally.
I agree simply because this is what the verse means. But the BIBLE and the actual words of JESUS do not refer LITERALY to the dead being spiritually dead, does it? Lazarus in my opinion wasn't LITERALLY DEAD, it was a simple lapse of faith in the cause and the movement and he was only spiritually dead. Similarly, when one is referred to "having a demon" doesn't mean one to be literally possessed by a demonic spirit. Therefore, it is not to be taken literally. If it doesn't actually mean what it actually says, then it is metaphorical or simply what we today would call an idiom of the time.
Why do you not start a thread on the subject, Shilla?I still have to earn the recognition before I start expanding on the subject.Recognition for what exactly?Recognition of my spirituality and scriptural leaning.And you are expecting this recognition to come from who?The spiritually alive.
You can correct me if I am wrong, but I recognise that you believe in God and the bible and have your own understanding of it. And I am sure there are a few more here that will say the same. Does this make me "spiritually alive" in your eyes?
You appear to be saying that you would only start a thread as long as everyone agrees with you and that we should somehow appreciate your own understanding and belief in scripture to be superior.
The spiritually alive.
Will you define what you mean by "spiritually alive"?
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@the Witch
[misogynist] 🤣 [fuck] -🤣 [fucking] 🤣 [fuck fucking]
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@Shila
@ShilaShila, wrote: All the more reason to take the Bible/Genesis literally. It applies to every aspect and deepest truths of human essence.Should it be taken literally at all times? Or just some of the time?But the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally and not metaphorically.So how does a dead person bury another dead person?Some of the people of the world are dead to Christ. They do not see His beauty, nor do they hear His voice or desire to follow Him. Only His “sheep” will do those things (John 10:27). The people of the world are those whom the Savior describes here as the (spiritually) dead who should bury the (physically) dead. Let people, He says, who are not interested in My work, and who are “dead in sin” (Ephesians 2:1), take care of the dead. Your duty is now to follow Me.
I agree. I have argued here many times that "let the dead bury the dead" Luke 9:60 is simply metaphorical. IE. anyone outside of Jesus' circle were simply called "the dead" and those that joined his cause were the "living". So, this is not a literal "dead" and not to be taken literally, is it? So, are you still saying that
" the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally#76
Why do you not start a thread on the subject, Shilla?I still have to earn the recognition before I start expanding on the subject.Recognition for what exactly?Recognition of my spirituality and scriptural leaning.
And you are expecting this recognition to come from who?
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@Shila
Shila, wrote: All the more reason to take the Bible/Genesis literally. It applies to every aspect and deepest truths of human essence.Should it be taken literally at all times? Or just some of the time?But the Bible was written to be taken seriously and literally and not metaphorically.
So how does a dead person bury another dead person?
Why do you not start a thread on the subject, Shilla?I still have to earn the recognition before I start expanding on the subject.
Recognition for what exactly?
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@Public-Choice
Christianity is the belief that all of your sins, all of your mistakes, all of your regrets, and all of your pain can be given into the hands of The One who created you and loves you.Christianity is a relationship with a friend who sticks closer than a brother. A God who loves you so much He took the punishment for you. A mighty fortress in the midst of attack. A loving Father who seeks the best good things for his children. And a God who is all-powerful and self-sufficient. A God who does not need you, for He is not in need, but wants you, because He loves you very much.
Then it is unexplainable why this god that you say "is all - powerful and self-sufficient" and one that " doesn't need" anyone would need to create anything in the first place.
Can you explain?
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@3RU7AL
The Sumerian epic of the deluge predates the biblical flood by thousands of years. The flood story is not the only biblical story lifted from the epics of Sumer and adopted by the Hebrew writers as part of their own history.copyright infringement !!!!!!!!!
Plagiarism!!!!!
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@Shila
All the more reason to take the Bible/Genesis literally. It applies to every aspect and deepest truths of human essence.
Should it be taken literally at all times? Or just some of the time?
Why do you not start a thread on the subject, Shilla?
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@Sidewalker
I can't get any of you to say what you believe.
Well now that is not entirely true is it?
I gave you a short summery of what I believe on your own thread and you simply ignored it. Here>>#69
I will also add;
I believe the New Testament as it has been passed onto us by pastors and priests over the millennia to be nothing more than a myth wrapped around a very human Jew king minus the "miracles" and certainly where no Christians is said Jew kings time ever existed.
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@Public-Choice
Christianity is the belief that all of your sins, all of your mistakes, all of your regrets, and all of your pain can be given into the hands of The One who created you and loves you.Christianity is a relationship with a friend who sticks closer than a brother. A God who loves you so much He took the punishment for you. A mighty fortress in the midst of attack. A loving Father who seeks the best good things for his children. And a God who is all-powerful and self-sufficient. A God who does not need you, for He is not in need, but wants you, because He loves you very much.
Then it is unexplainable why this god that you say "is all - powerful and self-sufficient" and one that " doesn't need" anyone would need to create anything in the first place.
Can you explain?
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@Shila
God sacrificed the world to save Noah with a giant flood.
Nope! God, it is written in the bible, destroyed the earth, and if one takes the time to read the Summaries version of the flood/deluge , no one was supposed to be saved. It was the intervention of a benevolent god that caused Noah ( Atra-Hasis Sumerian )to be saved.
The Sumerian epic of the deluge predates the biblical flood by thousands of years. The flood story is not the only biblical story lifted from the epics of Sumer and adopted by the Hebrew writers as part of their own history.
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@Vici
Vici wrote: Logical absolutes exist. Logical absolutes are conceptual by nature, are not dependent on space, time, physical properties, or human nature. They are not the product of the physical universe (space, time, matter), because if the physical universe were to disappear, logical absolutes would still be true. Logical Absolutes are not the product of human minds, because human minds are different, not absolute.Ramshutu wrote: How can you possibly know this?Vici wrote: everything I said makes sense.
But you didn't write it did you.... unless you are Matt Slick of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry, and not the 92 year old Sikh from Tonga that you claim to be.?
Matt Slick.
The Transcendental Argument for the existence of God
by Matt Slick | Dec 9, 2008 | Defending the Faith, Apologetics
by Matt Slick | Dec 9, 2008 | Defending the Faith, Apologetics
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Logical absolutes exist. Logical absolutes are conceptual by nature, are not dependent on space, time, physical properties, or human nature. They are not the product of the physical universe (space, time, matter), because if the physical universe were to disappear, logical absolutes would still be true. Logical Absolutes are not the product of human minds, because human minds are different, not absolute. But, since logical absolutes are always true everywhere, and not dependent upon human minds, it must be an absolute transcendent mind that is authoring them. This mind is called God.
All very 'Matt Slick' apologetics, I will wager.
Would you like me to send you bible so you can start repenting?
Does one need such a book to repent? If so, why?
Incidentally, Why would you - a self confessed Sikh - be promoting and recommending the Christian bible. I would have thought that the sacred book The Guru Granth Sahib - for a Sikh and a believer in reincarnation that is - would be first in line for promoting?
Tonga! Now that has to be a first for this forum. Congratulations!
Both Tamil ( Shiva) AND a Sikh (Waheguru)! ...... That promotes the Christian bible. That is unusual.
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