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@Shila
And yet it was because of whites that ended slavery. Whites that pushed for equal rights and representation. Whites that helped blacks ever since then.
80% of black Americans are well above the poverty line with many of them doing far better than their white counterparts.
No. White privilege is pure fiction.
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Black man reviewing info and discusses white privilege: https://youtu.be/yA735N6CCV0 realizing it’s in fact, pure fiction.
Here’s another with a good discussion and breakdown3
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300 years of slavery and it took a civil war to abolish it where over 700,000 Americans died.Racism is hardwired in the American DNA.Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.
It is 264 years of slavery, not 300; and roughly 620,000 died during the civil war, not 700k. You need to scale back on the over exaggerations here.
Racism is a part of the human experience, and it is a learned trait, it's not genetic.
Cops are 19x more likely to be shot and killed by an armed black man than that insignificant 3.2x blacks being shot (and not always necessarily killed) by cops.
Black Chicagoans commit the most intraracial violence and crime, so yeah, odds are they will be shot more than white Chicagoans. That's just common sense. Cops go where the crime is, not where it is not. And most the crime (especially violent person crimes) is in black communities.
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@Shila
The military will see a dramatic drop in rape cases as transgenders and LGBT fill the ranks.
Transgenders are less than 0.5-0.8% of the population, and LGBQ are less than 5-8% of the population. Most wouldn’t pass initial medical and psych screenings. So no, there wouldn’t be enough to “fill the ranks.”
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@Shila
And you’re an idiot for believing that since you NEVER SERVED!!!! Uneducated moron!!!
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@Shila
@ShilaThere is very little reported rape among transgenders and LGTB. etc.The military will see a dramatic drop in rape cases as transgenders and LGBT fill the ranks.Delusions of grandeur, again?Hard to think of raping a transgender in uniform knowing the person is actually a man out of uniform.
You're not the brightest bulb in the box.
T are less than 0.5-0.8% of the population, LGBQ are less than 6% of the population. Their participation in the AF are significantly less, so no, there will not be any dramatic drop in rape cases in the service.
You people who never served have absolutely zero business commenting on actual service and its implications for others. Just piss off. Unless you enjoy embarrassing yourselves with such ignorant stupidity.
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@Shila
You're such an intellectual coward lacking in effective reading comprehension skills. Pathetic. Just pathetic.
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Polytheist-Witch,I find no difference between atheist and Evangelical Christians.
Translation: I'm an intellectual coward.
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@Shila
Good Call!!!
How far up his rear end are you trying to get? Brown noser!
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@Ramshutu
I have to assume: given that you’ve been accusing people of being “intellectual cowards” that you missed this postsReally?Yes - you literally said “straw man”; didn’t explain why, nor justified why or how my argument misrepresented your position - indeed, you didn’t even clarify what your position actually was. That makes it an assertion.
And yet you've done the same you claim here with Avery, hypocrite.
Except in my response to you I did explain and requoted the quote proving same. You ignored it. Your problem, not mine.
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@Shila
@TWS1405-> @Shiladded 09.11.22 01:31PM--> @ShilaWhere does it say witches were landowners?Witch definition: a woman thought to have magic powers, especially evil ones, popularly depicted as wearing a black cloak and pointed hat and flying on a broomstick.You clearly know nothing about the Salem Witch Trials.You just proved my point witches were not landowners.I never said they were.ME: " Religion was used as the easy excuse to kill the landowners or their spouses to run them off."Reading comprehension matters.The Salem Witch Trials clearly say the landowners were framed as witches to deprive them of their land but in actual fact they were not witches.No shit sherlock.You provide links to prove witches were landlords. Eg The Salem Witch Trials
No. That is not what I did at all. I provided links backing up my original response to what I said to you, not what you said in response to me.
But the links you provided. The Salem Witch Trials clearly say the landowners were framed as witches to deprive them of their land but in actual fact they were not witches.
Again, no shit sherlock.
You were never trained to think. You were trained to take orders.
Says the one deficient in reading comprehension and interpersonal communication skills.
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@Shila
There is very little reported rape among transgenders and LGTB. etc.The military will see a dramatic drop in rape cases as transgenders and LGBT fill the ranks.
Delusions of grandeur, again?
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@Ramshutu
@TWS1405Gender Identity Disorder (aka Gender Dysphoria) was on the exclusionary list. Same as schizophrenia. Social anxiety disorder. Manic Depressive Disorder. Suicidal Ideation. So on and so forth.That it was previously on the list doesn’t mean it still needs to be on the list
Yes, it does. There is no science that demonstrates those with a screw loose in the head leaving the individual "thinking/feeling" they are the opposite sex/gender as being combat effective in the Armed Forces. It needs to be on the list. The list serves a purpose and has been very effective since the inception of all branches of the Armed Services.
I served. Did you? Doubt it. Given your responses here, I bet a $1 you haven't.
Transgenders are diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria with often to always accompanied by depression, anxiety, and oft suicidal ideation.For which transition is a cure. Right? I mean it’s not like we’re asking the army to take people with “oft suicidal ideation”, no?
No, transition is not [a] "cure." They have an incredibly high suicidal rate, even more than LGBQ. That in and of itself is an unnecessary risk to all in the armed services.
They require constant medication of various sorts to be functional at a somewhat normal level.That’s not actually the case; for example, transgender women, without treatment would end up performing physically better. Transgender men would take a long time to be impacted if they stop taking testosterone.
You have zero credibility with me. So going forward, cite sources that back up your empty assertions.
I mean really, when I served there were two lesbian women in my unit, one white and one black, and they were inseparable. Both of them could outperform any so called "transgender man." They could even outperform many men in our unit. And they were not taking any testosterone hormone therapy. For them it was mentality, confidence, and high self-esteem. They were gung-ho!
Surgeries will require significant downtime.But that’s temporary, though right?
Define temporary. Never mind. It's subjective and arbitrary given the fact that everyone is different.
All these things preclude transgenders from serving under the medical standards for recruits and retention.At least they did, until liberals forced PC tolerance upon the Armed Forces, using that security force as a social experiment to destroy the very structure of that security force.“Destroy the very structure of that security force” appears to be hysterical hyperbolae, no? We’re talking a fraction of a a fraction of a percent, right!
Yup, you never served. That's clear.
They are combat ineffective.Is this based on any actual evidence, or just your feelings? I mean - I would expect them to pass some sort of assessment before being sent to combat, no? If they pass that test - they’d be combat effective, right?
There are no tests for deployment. No tests for combat readiness. You either are or are not deployable and combat ready. Having mental health issues, as well as a physiological crisis, makes you unprepared and unreliable for both. As such, you put others' lives at risk.
They are not deployable when under surgical treatment and recovery.Temporarily though - it’s not like their invalids forever?
See previous response. If you are combat ineffective, you are worthless to the unit. Especially when you cost the military money. You're a drain on the unit. You're a drain on the military, financially and otherwise.
They require constant medication and hormones to even keep them functional.Again - not really.
Yes, really.
Why must 95% of the normal population be forced to bend over backwards for 0.5-8% of the population!?! What ever happened to majority rules!?!Firstly define “bending over backwards” - because it seems that “bending over backwards” really means “suffering absolutely no harm or penalty whatsoever”.For example in this case, no one that I can see is materially harmed, hurt, impacted, held back, or affected in any way.Secondly, isn’t that the reasoning behind Jim Crow?
The majority does suffer harm. Through laws created to protect a minority at the expense of the majority. Changes in language structure that is completely unnecessary and entirely illogical being thrusted upon the majority and enforced by law (compelled speech). Forcing the majority to allow them into employment positions, even when lying on their application (e.g., presenting themselves as a man during hiring process, hired, then first day they arrive claiming to be a woman and dressing the part), or changing their identity mid-employment.
When men compete as women, they outperform women. So yeah, those women are materially harmed, hurt, impacted, held back and affected in many ways.
Transgender issues =/= Jim Crow. Get lost with that asinine false equivalency fallacy.
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dded 09.11.22 01:31PM--> @ShilaWhere does it say witches were landowners?Witch definition: a woman thought to have magic powers, especially evil ones, popularly depicted as wearing a black cloak and pointed hat and flying on a broomstick.You clearly know nothing about the Salem Witch Trials.You just proved my point witches were not landowners.
I never said they were.
ME: " Religion was used as the easy excuse to kill the landowners or their spouses to run them off."
Reading comprehension matters.
The Salem Witch Trials clearly say the landowners were framed as witches to deprive them of their land but in actual fact they were not witches.
No shit sherlock.
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@Shila
Where does it say witches were landowners?Witch definition: a woman thought to have magic powers, especially evil ones, popularly depicted as wearing a black cloak and pointed hat and flying on a broomstick.
You clearly know nothing about the Salem Witch Trials.
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@Shila
See Avery’s advice to white people below:Next time you're going to use skin whitener, you should eat it instead.
I laughed when I read that.
You opened the door for that one.
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@Shila
Christians burnt witches. Turning atheists against witches too is one way to keep the flames alive.
That had less to do with religion and more to do with a land grab. Religion was used as the easy excuse to kill the land owners or their spouses to run them off.
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@Shila
You’re such a denialist, it’s laughable.
Avery just wiped the floor with you and all you can do is keep sounding like a broken record. LOL!!!
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@Sidewalker
I can understand your childish analogy, it is a-typical of those who do not understand the difference between blind faith and enlightened reason (i.e., logic).
Over the numerous centuries mankind has come to learn the very opposition of what the Bible professes to teach humankind. The earth wasn’t created in 5500 to 4000 BC, its billions of years old. The earth is not flat, it is round. The earth is not the center of the universe, the sun is. An earthquake is not an act of God, it’s tectonic plates rubbing and shifting upon the other. Lighting isn’t God being angry and smiting anyone, it’s a geological event. Need I go on?
The point is, over time we humans have become more enlightened, more reasoned, more intelligent in the ways of understanding the world we live in. While the Bible is for all intent a purpose, a historical record much like the hieroglyphs found in Egypt, Central American temples of ancient human beings, neither are without their fantastical tales of mythical beings (i.e., deities). In fact, all religions around the world have a common thread. A thread that is more tied to extraterrestrial encounters than a single God encounter through sunlight through a cloud to a burning bush on a mountain with a strange voice. Meaning, no one has ever seen, literally seen in person, the God written of in either the Old or New Testament. Oh, Jesus was not [a] God. He was just a man of zealous faith that rocked the boat the Jews and Romans were operating, and they didn’t like it. So they threw him overboard (i.e., crucified him).
Over the numerous centuries mankind has come to learn the very opposition of what the Bible professes to teach humankind. The earth wasn’t created in 5500 to 4000 BC, its billions of years old. The earth is not flat, it is round. The earth is not the center of the universe, the sun is. An earthquake is not an act of God, it’s tectonic plates rubbing and shifting upon the other. Lighting isn’t God being angry and smiting anyone, it’s a geological event. Need I go on?
The point is, over time we humans have become more enlightened, more reasoned, more intelligent in the ways of understanding the world we live in. While the Bible is for all intent a purpose, a historical record much like the hieroglyphs found in Egypt, Central American temples of ancient human beings, neither are without their fantastical tales of mythical beings (i.e., deities). In fact, all religions around the world have a common thread. A thread that is more tied to extraterrestrial encounters than a single God encounter through sunlight through a cloud to a burning bush on a mountain with a strange voice. Meaning, no one has ever seen, literally seen in person, the God written of in either the Old or New Testament. Oh, Jesus was not [a] God. He was just a man of zealous faith that rocked the boat the Jews and Romans were operating, and they didn’t like it. So they threw him overboard (i.e., crucified him).
Enlightened people read and look at the Bible as merely a book written by men with the sole purpose of controlling mankind through fear of unseeable evils (demons, devil, possessions) and damnation (hell). It’s easy to control the masses when they are kept ignorant and in fear of those with power and control (i.e., the church and those who execute the “men of God” marching orders.
The Old Testament paints a crystal clear picture of a jealous, vengeful, hateful, sinful, envious and childish God. All characteristics/traits of a human being. Men who wrote the Bible wrote from the only framework they knew, their own (i.e. they personified their version of what God is/was to them). Over time they came to realize that that version of God was not working. Hence the New Testament and the life of Jesus, the son of a carpenter and simple woman used as a new take on a more benevolent version of God. One not so violent, envious, jealous and child-like.
When those of us with intelligence read and reason with the Bible, we see a fable, a mere historical record to be read and treated as just that. A fable intertwined with human history and some actual events and places, but still a fable. A very long one at that.
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Polytheist-Witch,Atheists are hate-filled and angry with theists because they think they're better than them. Most resent their parents for being religious and making them learn any type of religion. They constantly argue the Bible is fact and then get upset when someone says they think the Bible is fact. They constantly talk about how we abuse our children and we're mentally ill and that's why they're better than us and our children should be taken from us. They're here to vent that hate because if they did it on the people they know that were theists they wouldn't have any friends or family. It's more than sad it's actually kind of scary. The atheist here is evangelical in their atheism.
Wow, you’re just full of yourself. Delusions of grandeur for sure.
Atheists are NOT hate-filled angry with anyone. Anyone!!!
The problem with theists is their fanaticism with their religious faith to the point where they have such vitriol for those who don’t agree with them. Your comment above is a shining example of that fact. History is also repeat with example after example of the violence done in His name in order to “spread the word.” So no, it is to you theists who are the “hate-filled angry” ones with anyone and everyone who just wants to be left alone to live their own lives, culture and faith as they have done their entire lives, generation after generation.
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@Avery
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@Ramshutu
The DOD has a medical standard for new recruits, and for retention.
Gender Identity Disorder (aka Gender Dysphoria) was on the exclusionary list. Same as schizophrenia. Social anxiety disorder. Manic Depressive Disorder. Suicidal Ideation. So on and so forth.
Transgenders are diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria with often to always accompanied by depression, anxiety, and oft suicidal ideation. They require constant medication of various sorts to be functional at a somewhat normal level. Surgeries will require significant downtime. All these things preclude transgenders from serving under the medical standards for recruits and retention. At least they did, until liberals forced PC tolerance upon the Armed Forces, using that security force as a social experiment to destroy the very structure of that security force. They are combat ineffective. They are not deployable when under surgical treatment and recovery. They require constant medication and hormones to even keep them functional.
Why must 95% of the normal population be forced to bend over backwards for 0.5-8% of the population!?! What ever happened to majority rules!?!
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The only culture blacks in America know is American culture of discrimination.300 years of black slavery in America made the American dream possible for whites. Blacks built America with their free labour, blacks even built the White House.
It is 264 years, NOT 300 years.
Blacks did NOT build America. Slavery was a net deficient to the economy of the United States. Even when the cotton gin was created, slavery barely produced a net profit making any money for Southern (or Northern) Americans.
Blacks, both enslaved and free, participated alongside many others in the construction of the White House. “They” and they alone DID NOT build the White House.
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@Shila
It is not hard to see whites as racist. They picked skin colour to identify race and made it an subject of discrimination based on us and them.
“They” who?
Cite a legitimate anthropological sources showing the historical source to back up your spurious claim.
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@Public-Choice
‘…Additionally, maybe if they didn't buy millions of Africans and …”
About 388,000 Africans were brought to North America, NOT “millions.”
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Polytheist-Witch,I'm not reading your fucking blog. That should be considered spam
That’s EXACTLY what an intellectual coward says/does.
According to your illogic, every linked citation = spam.
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Polytheist-Witch,What I love about these posts, there are least three or four atheists that are talking about how horrible black people are especially in the United States and one of the mods actually called me the racist because I practice a European based religion. This is the stupid shit that makes this site so awesome!
The black (and brown, but mostly black) response to the Queen’s death shows/demonstrates how “horrible” black people are.
Everything is about race, racism, and reparations.
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@Elliott
You’re right, technically not black, but still people of color and African.
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@Lair77
Fact. Because, in many instances, decades ago, African Americans were denied opportunities to get a mortgage for a house. Even if they had the money and income to do so....The fact that they can buy houses now is irrelevant now. Because they missed out on the best time in all of human history to buy a house. Anyone who bought a house in the 70's or 80's, they'd easily see the house go up 10x value by now.So, yes, they can buy a house now that prices are over-inflated but missed one of the biggest opportunities in American history to accrue wealth.There are many black people who are renting now that would actually be owning property and passing property onto their children if racism didn't exist.
Fiction.
Being denied a mortgage is as you stated at the end of your comment, racism. It’s NOT a matter of the mythical white privilege.
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Polytheist-Witch,
Considering your view on people of color, when you're in a area of people like you you certainly have privilege over someone who is a person of color. I don't understand how white people don't get that we have been able to move through society generally easier than people who are not white. This isn't rocket science. I think when you say the word White privilege people like you automatically assume that you somehow taken advantage of other people that's not the case it's just that you've benefited from being white. Of course you seem to hate everybody but white men so I don't know maybe you're just offended in general at everything.
Your first sentence and second sentence are not true. Especially in the Army. Blacks had far more privilege over me, and got away with racist crap on a daily basis. My platoon leader was a racist POS against whites, and he didn’t hide it. The platoon sergeant was black too, but he was a very nice and supportive leader. In fact, it was because of him that I got into positions within the Military Police field that just wasn’t available to others. I worked hard to prove myself and was aptly rewarded for it, it wasn’t given to me for free. Everything in my life was earned, not given free; and I certainly didn’t demand it be free either (unlike others).
I have no privilege other than to have been born in the greatest country in the world.
Had you gone to the link in #1 OP, you’d get an informed idea of how I interpret “white privilege.” Since you have not, the rest of your comment is just ignorant (uneducated).
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Liberals are whiners. Closet racists. Psychologically projecting their racism upon everyone else in order to raise themselves up on the pedestal of "hope and change" for blacks and other people of color, meanwhile they perpetuate the victimhood mentality among POC in order to maintain their positions above them. Just like the race baiters do....Al Sharpton, Shaun King, Jesse Jackson, LaBron James, Jada Pinkett-Smith, so on and so forth.
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Is college worth it?
Yes and no.
When I got out of the military, I was told by a local police captain that my experience in federal law enforcement, working on the drug team under the Army's C.I.D., wasn't enough for their department. They wanted a college education. I promptly asked what that education was going to teach me that I didn't already know by experience. Know what he said? Social interactions with difference genders and races/ethnicities. I was like, "WTF do you think I was doing serving in the Armed Forces for five years, in Desert Shield/Storm and two tours in Cuba dealing with Haitians and Cubans FFS." So the college degree was worth it at this point given this demand.
Fast forward, I go to college and get two degrees within the legal arena. Upon graduation I began applying for work with various law firms without success. I tried a legal employment agency, and I was directly told that my outstanding academic career made no difference since I had zero experience working in a law firm. So the college degrees were clearly not worth it. So, I went back to working for a law enforcement agency to bide my time. Time that worked in my favor working for a county, because when a legal position opened within the District Attorney's Office, I applied and got it easy peasy.
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@Ramshutu
No, that's not what I am saying...AT ALL! Strawman - Definition & Examples | LF (logicalfallacies.org)He asserts without justification.
Really?
->@TWS1405Everyone born in America has equal rights, equal access to anything and everything they want to achieve. There is no right or guarantee to equal outcomes. One only gets out of life what they put into it. Just because you are not as good as another =/= supremacy of any kind.So what you’re saying is (2) that the difference in outcomes between whites and blacks is because blacks “are not as good as” whites.
"So what you're saying...." = classic strawman fallacy.
Yet another Strawman - Definition & Examples | LF (logicalfallacies.org) and Ad Hominem - Definition & Examples | LF (logicalfallacies.org)Firstly, I’m not misrepresenting you - so not a straw man.
Yes, you are. And it is in black and white for all to see.
Your word salad, jumbled arguments, and circular reasoning is quite apparent.
You got caught. Own it. Stop being a liar. Stop being an intellectual coward. Have a little integrity. If that is even possible.
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Trump and Pompeo made a terrible deal with the Taliban, released 5000 Taliban prisoners, and cut a deal to withdraw that Trump later said he would not have followed through on, putting more American servicemen in danger.
You need to back this patently spurious claim up. Cite sources. Credible sources.
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Polytheist-Witch,
Why do you keep making posts about how much you hate black people?
Ad hom and strawman.
Nowhere in any post and/or thread do I state, categorically, that I "hate black people."
Troll.
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@Ramshutu
->@TWS1405Everyone born in America has equal rights, equal access to anything and everything they want to achieve. There is no right or guarantee to equal outcomes. One only gets out of life what they put into it. Just because you are not as good as another =/= supremacy of any kind.So what you’re saying is (2) that the difference in outcomes between whites and blacks is because blacks “are not as good as” whites.
No, that's not what I am saying...AT ALL! Strawman - Definition & Examples | LF (logicalfallacies.org)
Racist: a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.If your belief is true - you meet the dictionary definition of a racist.
White Supremacy: the belief, theory, or doctrine that white people are inherently superior to people from all other racial and ethnic groups, especially Black people, and are therefore rightfully the dominant group in any society… and pretty much the dictionary definition of a white supremacy.
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@Shila
America has the largest African diaspora of 47 million outside of Africa. That is why racism is highest in America which has 235 million reported whites that has to share the country with such a high number of blacks.
Of the roughly 11 million Africans that survived the Atlantic journey, only approximately 334,000 were brought to America. The remaining 10.7 million were taken to the Caribbean and South America.
Because of the American dream and the freedoms America offered, blacks chose to stay in America post slavery and make a life for themselves. While some did, for centuries, by the mid 1900s a small percentage of blacks wallowed in their black culture that left them in an endless circle of despair and a social, cultural and financial (class) victimhood mentality. A mentality that made them feel entitled to do as they please without consequence, leading to the out of wedlock birth rates jumping from 22% to over 70%, higher illiteracy, higher dropout rates from school, higher crime rates, and higher unemployment rates. That was their fault, their problem, not the boogey white man. This mentality also leads to blacks being more racist towards whites, Asians and Hispanics than vice versa. So sure, there is a lot of racism in America, directed at whites, namely white males.
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--> @ShilaGuns are not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problemGuns are the problem in America. Read the study.Roughly 33,000 Americans every year are killed with firearms (homicides, suicides, and accidents).In the abstract, it's hard to appreciate just how catastrophic this death toll is. So we made a chart to make things more concrete. It compares the number of Americans killed by guns between 2001 and 2013 to the number of Americans killed by war, AIDS, illegal drug overdoses, and terrorism combined during the same time period. It turns out that guns killed more Americans than all of those horrors put together:If the 2nd Amendment was to arm Americans to kill Americans. It is working. The American civil war killed over 750,000 Americans.The tool (e.g., guns) is not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problem. Their behavior. Their mental state. Their belief system. Their self-esteem (and confidence) or lack thereof. Their fear or lack of fear of punishment or how they hurt others (i.e., suicide).An inanimate object cannot harm anyone or anything until it is wielded; and when wielded, it is the behavior, mental state, attitude, belief system, self-esteem or lack thereof, and whether or not they fear punishment or the consequences of utilizing that tool that determines how that tool is wielded and utilized that's the problem. Not the tool in and of itself that cannot do anything without the wielder.The military uses guns to kill people.
And?
More Americans die from guns than hands, feet, fists.
Which guns? Not shotguns. Not rifles of any kind. You need to be more specific.
NRA even admitted the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun.
They're not wrong.
Either way guns are more efficient.Other countries have mentally ill people too. But America sets the record in people killed by guns.
Yes, as a tool a weapon like a gun is more efficient to take out another armed assailant, or for those bent on suicide.
Again, it's not the weapon (i.e., tool), it's human behavior, attitude, self-esteem or lack thereof, and a lack of fear of the consequences of their actions in using a weapon for nefarious means.
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IwantRooseveltagain,You understand neither the meaning of what a troll is or what a tried-and-true racist is. I am neither. You're just an intellectual coward when it comes to the truth about some black Americans, and the divisive rhetoric of race and racism in this country as well.Lol. The enlisted guy from the Army loves the “intellectual coward” line. You know all those enlisted guys were paid the big bucks because the were such intellectuals. And he’s the least racist guy you could ever meet, except for Trump of course.
One ad hom after another.
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@Avery
-> @Avery-->@TWS1405Being called a racist in that context is designed to silence your free speech.Rather than contend with your arguments, they'd much rather attack you personally so that you're too scared to speak out, lest you receive social and sometimes physical backlash.And you're so stuck. You know that people evolving in different environments is going to make the races different at the biological level, but you can't begin to say that because you'll be called a racist.That's precisely the response you've seen so far from Progressives. They don't want to contend with the argument that: "Today, 99 times out of 100 in politics, the word “racist” is used purely for political reasons without any regard to whether something bigoted was actually said." Instead, they will attack you personally or the way in which you said something, and either way they will call you racist.Spot on! Thank you.Thing is, I am not afraid. I cannot be silenced. I am not afraid of the truth that I am putting forth; leftist progressives are, as you so aptly pointed out here.thett3 even understands this but still thinks the same, oddly enough.Truth may hurt the left, but it's still the truth, nonetheless.300 years of slavery and it took a civil war to abolish it where over 700,000 Americans died.Racism is hardwired in the American DNA.Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.
Your math is way off. Slavery began in 1619 and ended in 1865, 246 years; NOT 300.
Also, it was not 700k soldiers that died, it was 620k.
Notwithstanding, so what! America is NOT the only country on the planet that utilized slave labor.
Racism is part of the human experience the planet over, it is not isolated to just America.
Blacks do not hold the trump card as being the only ones enslaved by others.
You clearly do not know a damn thing about slavery in America let alone the history of it the world over. Bet you didn't know white Europeans were enslaved by blacks (Barbery pirates) before blacks were enslaved by white Dutch and Spaniards to be sold to Americans and taken to the Caribbean and South America. I also bet that you did not know only about 334k Africans were brought to America, while the remaining 10.7 million Africans that survived the Atlantic journey went to South America and the Caribbean.
A small portion of black Americans commit over 50% of the entire nation's violent person crimes. They also commit a disproportionate amount of crime in general, which means they will have a lot of contact with law enforcement since cops go where the crime is, not where it is not happening. This small portion of black Americans who come into contact with law enforcement are immediately belligerent, combative, resist arrest and try to kill police. Cops are 18.5x more likely to be shot and killed by an armed black American than your mere 3.23x blacks being shot and allegedly killed.
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@Shila
>@ADreamOfLiberty--> @ShilaOnce again statistics is wielded by those who don't know the rules.More likely given the same circumstances or more likely per total population? No doubt the number you quote is the later. There is no contradiction, and the in-circumstance statistic is more relevant since it speaks to the presumption you expressed.TWS1405 was trained in law enforcement. His incompetency is expected.
My academic and professional background goes far beyond merely law enforcement.
Pretty arrogant (and ignorantly so) of you to assume what you think you know what I have been trained in, exactly. Nor what I have done in law enforcement, especially since I have not fully disclosed anything in great detail about same. But it also speaks to your general attitude towards those who do work in law enforcement, a sentiment echoed by many on the left. That they are incompetent, undereducated and all are heavily biased. Among other negative traits incorrectly ascribed upon the men and women in blue.
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@Shila
Guns are not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problemGuns are the problem in America. Read the study.Roughly 33,000 Americans every year are killed with firearms (homicides, suicides, and accidents).In the abstract, it's hard to appreciate just how catastrophic this death toll is. So we made a chart to make things more concrete. It compares the number of Americans killed by guns between 2001 and 2013 to the number of Americans killed by war, AIDS, illegal drug overdoses, and terrorism combined during the same time period. It turns out that guns killed more Americans than all of those horrors put together:If the 2nd Amendment was to arm Americans to kill Americans. It is working. The American civil war killed over 750,000 Americans.
The tool (e.g., guns) is not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problem. Their behavior. Their mental state. Their belief system. Their self-esteem (and confidence) or lack thereof. Their fear or lack of fear of punishment or how they hurt others (i.e., suicide).
An inanimate object cannot harm anyone or anything until it is wielded; and when wielded, it is the behavior, mental state, attitude, belief system, self-esteem or lack thereof, and whether or not they fear punishment or the consequences of utilizing that tool that determines how that tool is wielded and utilized that's the problem. Not the tool in and of itself that cannot do anything without the wielder.
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@Ramshutu
->@TWS1405There is a substantial list of disparities between whites and blacks. Educational attainment, unemployment, health, poverty, you name it - the list is as long as my arm.There are two explanations for these disparities:1.) Whites and Blacks are subject to different social conditions and constraints that lead to one being advantages over the other.2.) Whites and blacks are subject to identical social conditions and constraints - but black people do worse because they’re not as good as whites.(1) is white privilege. (2) is white supremacy.
Everyone from Booker T. Washington, Frederick Douglas and Madam C.J. Walker to Ben Carson, Colin Powell and Morgan Freeman disproves (1).
Everyone born in America has equal rights, equal access to anything and everything they want to achieve. There is no right or guarantee to equal outcomes. One only gets out of life what they put into it. Just because you are not as good as another =/= supremacy of any kind.
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@bronskibeat
I'm going to address this one first and foremost because your citation is outdated:
Here's an interesting one: Using a police training video game, the effect of ethnicity on shoot/don't shoot decisions was examined. African American or White targets, holding guns or other objects, appeared in complex backgrounds. Participants were told to "shoot" armed targets and to "not shoot" unarmed targets. In Study 1, White participants made the correct decision to shoot an armed target more quickly if the target was African American than if he was White, but decided to "not shoot" an unarmed target more quickly if he was White. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12500813/
"It’s the third time two WSU researchers in criminal justice and criminology, Bryan Vila, professor, and Lois James, research assistant professor, and their colleague Stephen M. James have set up simulations to monitor the differing reactions of police when confronted by white or black suspects. And all three times, they found that officers took significantly more time to fire their weapons if the subject was black, according to their latest report, “The Reverse Racism Effect,” to be published in the journal Criminology & Public Policy." ~ This study found race matters in police shootings, but the results may surprise you | CAS in the Media | Washington State University (wsu.edu)
"New Washington State University study: Even tired cops are more hesitant to shoot black suspects
A new study concludes that officers tend not to be biased against black suspects in resorting to deadly force, even when fatigued and thus potentially more vulnerable to making angry, irrational, and impulsive decisions." ~
"...David Johnson, a postdoctoral researcher in the Lab for Applied Social Science Research at the University of Maryland, along with colleagues at Michigan State University - spent over 1,500 hours creating the first comprehensive national database of fatal officer-involved shootings (FOIS) in the US in 2015. It includes 917 fatal shootings by on-duty police officers in 2015 from over 650 different police departments. The analysis, which is based on this database, shows that white police officers are not more likely to shoot minorities citizens than non-white officers. The researchers state that their findings show no support for the idea that white officers are biased in shooting black citizens." ~ White police officers are not more likely to shoot minority citizens, says new study debunking popular view | MEAWW
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@Shila
Roughly 33,000 Americans every year are killed with firearms (homicides, suicides, and accidents).In the abstract, it's hard to appreciate just how catastrophic this death toll is. So we made a chart to make things more concrete. It compares the number of Americans killed by guns between 2001 and 2013 to the number of Americans killed by war, AIDS, illegal drug overdoses, and terrorism combined during the same time period. It turns out that guns killed more Americans than all of those horrors put together:If the 2nd Amendment was to arm Americans to kill Americans. It is working. The American civil war killed over 750,000 Americans.
Guns are not the problem, human beings and their attitude towards their fellow man is the problem.
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