TWS1405

-->@TWS1405

Being called a racist in that context is designed to silence your free speech.

Rather than contend with your arguments, they'd much rather attack you personally so that you're too scared to speak out, lest you receive social and sometimes physical backlash.

And you're so stuck. You know that people evolving in different environments is going to make the races different at the biological level, but you can't begin to say that because you'll be called a racist. 

That's precisely the response you've seen so far from Progressives. They don't want to contend with the argument that: "Today, 99 times out of 100 in politics, the word “racist” is used purely for political reasons without any regard to whether something bigoted was actually said." Instead, they will attack you personally or the way in which you said something, and either way they will call you racist.

Sure, I agree with this. TWS seems to have an unhealthy obsession and negative view on black people. But how can you not see that the logic you lay out here is essentially just justifying the existence of the phenomenon people are complaining about? You're essentially making an argument for why we shouldn't talk about these things

FWIW I agree, it is super uncomfortable to talk about this sort of stuff. But this is a debating website. And policy makers need to know actual information so they can effectively make policy. The fact that the elevated crime rates are so unbelievably concentrated, and so responsive to political and social changes means its a solvable problem if we were actually allowed to try

I think you did lay out why a smart leftist finds these discussions uncomfortable, your view is probably pretty fairly representative. I find it telling though that you express discomfort with people making factually based claims about one groups behavior when their motivations are suspect, but I never see you or any leftist complain (rather than enthusiastically go along with) claims about another group (white people) that are 1) much more widespread in media, politics, and culture, and 2) are either far more subjective or empirically false. Saying "black people commit more crime" does make me really uncomfortable because the vast majority don't commit any crime. The phenomenon is driven mostly by a small group of repeat offenders. But I have to hear "white men this, white men that" absolutely nonstop when the complaints being made aren't even true. Huge double standard!

You still didn't admit you ignored my whole rationale and simply substituted your own.

If you don't want to define anything, then how in the world can you even claim black people are racist?

You have to define these terms before you can climb any "truth."

Truth isn't undefinable.

>@TWS1405

It's NOT my truth. It is THE truth.

Big words coming from a man who is scared of accepting definitions.

Define race.

Define black.

Define racist.

Define white.

Define biracial.

Define multiracial.

And, I guarantee you, that it will then be impossible to prove your "truth."

Since the overwhelming majority of "blacks" are not even black. They are multiracial or biracial.

But here's what's even crazier. You can't even argue that there are different races because black people and white people are all part of one race. So it is impossible to be racist to members of your own race if you then turn around and favor other members of your race.

Plus, all I have to do is prove that any portion of black people are not racist, and your premise is completely destroyed,

since you decided to say "blacks," meaning the collective whole, are racist.

But. You know. Go ahead and believe your supposed "truth." It was peddled by the KKK and the Confederacy and the south for years to oppress an entire people group. 

I'll just be over here living in reality, with my black friends, in my city with black people in it, all getting along with each other just fine because we aren't racists.

Are you, like, paid to be this racist by the Russians or something?

Also, why in the world are so many seasoned debaters so quick to agree to the either/or fallacy?

How can any of you remotely prove "blacks" all do something?

@TWS1405

That being said, I saw far more "advantages" and "special treatment" for people of color in the Army than any given towards whites. 

Hmmm, what percentage of the officers in the Army were black?

@Elliott

Tongue piercing, the idea of kissing a girl with a large metal bolt through her tongue I find totally repulsive. But sadly my days of being a total babe magnet are long past.

The metal bolt is to discharge any static buildup during oral sex. 

-->@ebuc

..." very day, on average, 316 people in America are shot in murders, assaults, suicides and suicide attempts, unintentional shootings, and police intervention.

Every day, 210 people are shot and survive.

• 95 are injured in an attack
  
• 10 survive a suicide attempt
  
• 90 are shot unintentionally
  
• 4 are shot in a legal intervention
  

Every day, 106 people die from gun violence.

• 39 are murdered
  
• 64 kill themselves
  
• 1 is killed unintentionally
  
• 1 dies but the intent is unknown
  

115,551 people in America are shot in murders, assaults, suicides & suicide attempts, unintentional shootings, or by police intervention. "....

This does not include all of the big guns/weapons used in war.

https://www.teamenough.org/gun-violence-statistics

This is why America goes to war so they can kill others. When there is no war Americans turn on each other. The American Civil War was a good example of American culture.

That is not to say there aren’t others that would love to kill Americans. But the stats you provided make that unnecessary. Americans have an amendment right to own and use guns. It appears to be working 

Shila

The death stats show Asian countries (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, China, Korea) have lower death rates than western countries. So even though western countries claim higher efficacy than the Chinese vaccine, their vaccines are actually resulting in more deaths.

You cannot rule out those administering the vaccines in the west might be less qualified than their Asian counterparts

You're just full of non-sequiturs today. 

Doesn't take much to be qualified to stick a needle in someone's arm.

I am one person among 340,000,000. Having never been afflicted with Covid, I am far removed from such unsubstantiated ignorant criticism.

The death jab is far more related to actual deaths than the illness itself. ~ New Studies Confirm The Vaxxes Are Killing And Injuring People In Too Large Numbers (allnewspipeline.com)

Read your own post blaming the death jab is far more related to actual deaths than the illness itself.

Hillary was cleared even by James Comey.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trump Org to be charged with tax fraud. NY.

Georgia investigating election fraud by Trump.

Jan 6 committee investigating trumps efforts to overturn 2020  election results.

FBI/DOJ investigating criminal obstruction of Justice by Trump and stealing classified documents from National Archives.

Trump university fined 25 million.

Trump accused of sexual assaults by some 25 women.

Not only has the Trump Foundation shut down for its misconduct, but the president has been forced to pay $2 million for misusing charitable funds for his own political gain.

The majority of blacks are democrats.

The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.

So more than 2.87 million  Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.

Non-Sequitur argument. 

Notwithstanding, he carried far more states than she did; and as a result, he won the electoral college. She lost. Deal with it. 

But Trump is a one term president. Twice impeached and criminally investigated for tax fraud, election sedition, obstruction of Justice and conspiring to compromise national security.

Hillary warned the republicans about Trump.

BTW Bush W. also lost the popular vote to Gore.

This book is a waste of time. The author uses no logic throughout the book other than to blame all the problems of America on white people. In the very first chapter he declares that he or his children have to live in fear that they might be shot by a police officer when the truth is they’re far more likely to be shot by another black person. He also conveniently forgets to talk about BLM founder Patrice Cullors who embezzled and misappropriated funds (millions) that were supposed to be used to help disenfranchised blacks. He also doesn’t mention how the constitution didn’t keep him out of Harvard. This guy is a black racist who just wants to whine about slavery and how all white people are racist. He needs to look in the mirror and take an inventory of his own racist attitudes. This book is a waste of time time and money. He clearly bought his way onto the bestseller list through MSM pandering.

Total trash written by a total racist. Talks about a racist calling everyone else a racist and that's in every chapter. Horrible book without intelligence or integrity. Just more indoctrination woke BS. Harvard is turning out a bunch of crazed, privileged professors who should be thanking America instead of constantly disparaging her. The book is a disgusting representation of America taking a horrible turn in the wrong direction.

The death stats show Asian countries (Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, China, Korea) have lower death rates than western countries. So even though western countries claim higher efficacy than the Chinese vaccine, their vaccines are actually resulting in more deaths.

You cannot rule out those administering the vaccines in the west might be less qualified than their Asian counterparts

Elie Mystal is The Nation’s justice correspondent—covering the courts, the criminal justice system, and politics—and the force behind the magazine’s monthly column “Objection!” He is also an Alfred Knobler Fellow at the Type Media Center. His first book, the best-selling Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution, was on March 1, 2022.

Mystal is a graduate of Harvard College and Harvard Law School, a former associate at Debevoise & Plimpton, and a lifelong New York Mets fans. One of those things is not like the others. Prior to joining The Nation, Mystal was the executive editor of Above the Law. He’s a frequent guest on MSNBC and Sirius XM. He will resist.

The same high standards apply to transgender persons. "These policies are based on the conclusion that open service by transgender persons who are subject to the same high standards and procedures as other Service members with regard to medical fitness for duty, physical fitness, uniform and grooming standards, deployability, and retention is consistent with military service and readiness," the Department of Defense instructions state.

--> @Shila

Electing a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.

And yet blacks supported Trump more than Biden AND Obama. 

Black men voted for Trump in record numbers, exit polls show | MyStateline.com

More Black Voters Say They're Better Off During Trump Presidency Than Did During Obama's (westernjournal.com)

Study: Obama voters switched to Trump because of race - Vox

The majority of blacks are democrats.

The 2016 campaign ended with a surprising and inconclusive outcome: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote comfortably by 2.87 million votes, but lost the Electoral College to Trump.

So more than 2.87 million  Americans voted for Hillary than Trump.

 smarter Progressives like Oromagi and Ramshutu come along, 

Smart and Progressive should never be seen in a single sentence, ever.

Electing a black candidate to the highest office in America twice is not an arbitrary standard. The Republicans tried to lower the bar by electing Trump. Now they cannot get Trump to accept he lost.

-->@TWS1405

--> @Shila

There is NO "transformation."

Men will never be women.

Women will never be men.

Fact. Period. Fact. Period. Fact...

From January 26, 2021, onwards, there are no restrictions on military service by transgender individuals. Medical care for transitioning servicemembers is provided by the military and procedures for handling the transition in official records established.

It is because of people like you America leads the world in Covid cases at 97 million.

India is second with 44 million cases with a population 4 times that of America.

China with the worlds largest population ranks 108 in Covid cases.

Comparing Uvalde to a rapist/murderer is a false equivalency fallacy. 

I haven’t seen any reports of rape in this case. I assume you are calling it rape the same way you would call any crime by a  Muslim terrorism.

And why would a mass shooting be a false equivalence to a rape/murder? Because their are two kinds of crime - regular and black.

Who is the BesT debater in this cite.

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.

States have paid out multimillion dollars settlements to blacks killed by law enforcement officers.

The attorney for George Floyd's family says a $27 million settlement of a federal lawsuit by the city of Minneapolis is the largest pretrial civil rights settlement ever.

The $12 million settlement with Breonna Taylor's family is a historic move for Louisville,

More than $1.5 billion has been spent to settle claims of police misconduct involving thousands of officers repeatedly accused of wrongdoing. Taxpayers are often in the dark.

It is only a matter of time before Reparation is seen as the only viable solution to past injustices.

The suspect was black. Why the cops didn’t shoot him is still a mystery. 

Does your attitude towards black have anything to do with your police training?

Blacks would like to see the police defunded.

Black institutions have to be profitable to set an example to the community.

Blacks built America with their free labour as slaves. They also  kept  the white women  satisfied as the white men explored homosexuality and other distractions.

It was the democrats that voted for Obama a black candidate and did it again to have Obama re-elected. This time they voted for Biden who is white. So Democrats have proven they are not a racist party.

Blacks are hoping to bring public awareness that Black Lives Matter. If the movement is getting rich then it must be working. After all blacks are seeking compensation and reparation for slavery when  black lives mattered little.

Blacks are not more racist. Blacks react more strongly to racist discrimination. BLM is not a racist movement. It is an appeal to recognize discrimination.

Perhaps someone should find out why the library hired a pedophile whether in drag or straight to come and talk to children because that's where the fuck up was.

Trans people called themselves trans, homosexuals call themselves homosexuals, drag queens call themselves drag queens. Drag queens have traditionally been defined as gay men who dress in drag. Drag is not transvestiteism which can be a straight guy and or a gay guy that dresses like a woman. Drag is about over the top dress makeup and also usually tied to performance of some kind whether it's for friends or for an audience. Understand these definitions don't mean anything to  someone who hates people that don't conform for traditional gender identities or clothing for that matter. But the fact is there are definitions in the community and those definitions mean things the fact that you don't care is precisely my point.

Trump falsely claims to have watched Muslims in NJ celebrate after the 9/11attacks. Despite being quickly and widely debunked , Trump continues to repeat the

falsehood.

IwantRooseveltagain,

MAGA Republicans are a threat to this country. January 6 assault on the capital was proof. Now they are planning to steal the next election if their voter suppression efforts don’t pan out.

IwantRooseveltagain,

JoJo gayparrot is a Nazi white supremacist who lives in his mother’s basement.

Yes, there were two polls referenced in the OP - one reflects the views of a group of right leaning Americans and the other views of South Africans about South Africans. Neither prove black Americans are more racist than other races. 

Before the huge fashion shows of drag queens making a mockery of women, showing/proving men can be better than women, there was pedophilia.

Pedophiles are in fact transgenders. Homosexuals and even bisexuals in disguise. 

Uh I don't know if I agree with any of that. Do you have anything to show these things?

Why do we have to define what a woman is but not what a man is? And why should men have any say what a woman is and why should women have anything with a man is?

Gender Identity Disorder is a clown diagnosis

Indeed. If your medical professional uses this diagnosis, he/she is a clown:

Thanks for taking my advice about the gay bashing. 

Why can't you boomers actually take the final redpill though and admit it's the Jews behind this bullshit. Seriously go to the early life section of any of these academics pushing this trans agenda or any degenerate thing really. 

I don't have to say it, you guys are saying it with your post all these bitter, white, atheist men. You guys are as bad as evangelicals. If you don't want to be called a racist quit posting about how much you hate trans and black people.

Most drag queens aren't transgender they're gay guys in drag.