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What does everyone here think about development aid?

Thoughts on the Moyo/Easterly vs. Sachs vs. Banerjee/Duflo/Kremer/Mullainathan (et al) schools on the efficacy of development aid? 

And, somewhat related: thoughts on effective altruism?
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@thett3
Have you read Bryan Caplan’s The Case Against Education? It’s a very well-written and fun read that makes basically the same argument as you.

And I’m guessing you’ve already read Slate Star Codex’s post on tulip subsidies. 
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@RationalMadman
I don’t see how the name “guaranteed minimum income” is misleading.

“Universal basic income” is universal. Thus, the name tells you that it isn’t means-tested.

“Guaranteed minimum income” simply means that a minimum income is guaranteed by the government for some group of people. The name doesn’t specify that this guarantee would apply to everyone -- merely that it is guaranteed (i.e., it isn’t subject to things like work requirements). 

Anyway, you might be right. I’m not particularly interested in a semantic debate. 
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@RationalMadman
A UBI isn’t means-tested. A GMI is. 
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April’s PF topic area was “India.” The topic that was chosen was: “The United Nations should grant India permanent membership on the Security Council.”

I find it utterly bizarre that in a year of an Indian national legislative election -- the election with the largest number of eligible voters in the world, and one with significant differing policy proposals, such as one party proposing a guaranteed minimum income (which is different than a UBI, here’s a good debate on the subject: https://www.debate.org/debates/Guaranteed-Minimum-Income/1/) and a right to housing for all individuals -- a random topic about what the dynamics of the UN Security Council would look like with a sixth member and how that would affect South- and Southeast Asian geopolitics was chosen. Meh. 

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@DebateArt.com

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Specific question on judging
Say you’re a debate judge and you come across this situation. 

The third reason under Con’s second contention in R1 (just as an example) is very strong as an impact and is enough to win Con the debate. However, the rest of Con’s case is terrible and without that reason, Con would lose the debate. Pro drops that reason but tears apart the rest of Con’s case. Con doesn’t bother to extend this third reason of Con’s second contention. 

On the flow, this reason exists and would win Con the debate. But Con never bothers to mention that Pro dropped this reason. And if this reason didn’t exist, Con would lose the debate. Who would you give the debate to? 

As a more generic question. To what extent should judges weigh dropped arguments when the other side never brings them back? In which contexts should they be considered debate-winning and in which contexts should they not be? I’d prefer answers from people with formal debate experience, but anyone’s welcome to answer. 


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@triangle.128k
I would consider it, is it one of those books that hold paleolithic societies as superior to "civilization?" That idea seems to be a recently popular trend in the study of history. 
Sort of, but a bit more nuanced than that.

The book argues that (1) standards of living today are better than standards of living for much of human society (better than paleolithic society as well), especially due to technological progress, the development of science, and the Industrial Revolution, but that (2) the standards of living for much of history after the Neolithic Revolution was not only much worse than today, it was likely worse than pre-agricultural societies as well. 

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@triangle.128k
Regarding conditions, the average peasant in medieval Europe worked less hours than we do today, enjoying more overall free time.
Do you have data regarding this? I'm quite interested. 

Also, I recommend reading Sapiens. You may not agree with it—I didn't agree with all of it either—but it's a really fun read, at the very least. 
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@ResurgetExFavilla
You just assert that there's no difference between land rent and a wage; I think that's a bit crazy. They couldn't be farther apart: in the case of a land wage, you have control over the material means by which you produce that rent, which also provides you with your own basic needs: food, shelter, water. In the case of a wage, you explicitly do not have any of those things, it is your labor itself which you sell, NOT the product of your labor, which does not belong to you.
I’m not sure I follow.

What is a “land wage”?

And, hold on, the laborer is the equivalent of the landlord in the rent analogy, right? In that the laborer supplies their labor, whereas the landlord supplies land, and both are rented? I’m actually really confused and would appreciate a simple explanation of this conversation. 
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@triangle.128k
However, the poorest of people in stable agrarian societies generally lived a more comfortable life as they were self reliant off growing their own food.
As far as the broader historical trend is concerned, I don’t think this is necessarily true? It seems like if you compare standards of living across three periods—hunter-gatherer societies, agrarian societies, and modern non-agrarian societies—the second period would show the lowest standard of living, on average. I haven’t actually looked at the data, this is mostly informed by reading one book (Yuval Harari’s Sapiens), so take my opinion with a grain of salt. Also, these data probably aren’t controlled for technological progress, which has the potential to improve standards of living in some societal structures and decrease standards of living in other structures. 
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@spacetime
My new opinion on this is that nobody knows anything and nothing matters.
I mean, insofar as there’s a non-zero probability that we know things and that things matter, it’s worth having this discussion.

In fact, even if p = 0, since we live in societies where we assume those two things are false, we might as well have this discussion.

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Suggestion to add “helping other people” to the list of life priorities.

I expect there’s a reasonable number of people who would list that as their #1 priority in life. I think I would, subject to some constraints about my personal wellbeing and happiness. 
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@bsh1
Some kind of negative income tax or some income-based solution which tries to make up the difference might be useful. Suppose we assess that a person needs to make $40,000 a year. If you make $0, the government should give you $40,000. If you make $20,000, the government should give you $20,000. If you make $39,000, it should give you $1,000. If you make $40,000, you should not get the rebate. I like this better than a UBI, because it's arguable more targeted to those who need it most. Bill Gates doesn't need UBI checks.
I think I agree with this, but the key area of uncertainty for me is whether it’s possible to reach 100% well-paid employment even with automation—if it is, I’d prefer that the negative income tax function more as a wage subsidy and simply the provision of unemployment benefits for the unemployed.

I support some form of NIT system, though. Most economists do. 

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@thett3

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@spacetime
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@coal
Also, thoughts on Pete Buttigieg?
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@coal
Hey, just in case you needed a reminder, post #504.

No hurry or anything.
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@DebateArt.com
Yep, it works now. :)
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@DebateArt.com
Error 502 when I click on the “activities” bell icon.


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@ethang5
To explain this slightly further. 

The system of money that virtually every country in the world uses is called “fiat money.” The money itself is imaginary. It may be represented by paper, by a check, or by numbers on a digital screen. But the paper of a $10 note doesn’t have $10 of intrinsic value. It’s value that is accepted by society. 

Given that, printing $1 million in cash and giving every poor person $1 million in cash and creating new $1 million bank accounts are the exact same thing. But the creation of huge amounts of money suddenly causes inflation—in fact, it has, almost always, been the main cause of inflation. Zimbabwe and Venezuela experienced hyperinflation crises by doing far less. 

Economist Greg Mankiw, in his popular Econ 101 textbook Principles of Economics, explains:

In January 1921, a daily newspaper in Germany cost 0.30 marks. Less than two years later, in November 1922, the same newspaper cost 70,000,000 marks. All other prices in the economy rose by similar amounts. This episode is one of history’s most spectacular examples of inflation, an increase in the overall level of prices in the economy.

Although the United States has never experienced inflation even close to that of Germany in the 1920s, inflation has at times been an economic problem. During the 1970s, for instance, when the overall level of prices more than doubled, President Gerald Ford called inflation “public enemy number one.” By contrast, inflation in the first decade of the 21st century ran about 2½ percent per year; at this rate, it would take almost 30 years for prices to double. Because high inflation imposes various costs on society, keeping inflation at a low level is a goal of economic policymakers around the world.

What causes inflation? In almost all cases of large or persistent inflation, the culprit is growth in the quantity of money. When a government creates large quantities of the nation’s money, the value of the money falls. In Germany in the early 1920s, when prices were on average tripling every month, the quantity of money was also tripling every month. Although less dramatic, the economic history of the United States points to a similar conclusion: The high inflation of the 1970s was associated with rapid growth in the quantity of money, and the return of low inflation in the 1980s was associated with slower growth in the quantity of money.
Another explanation is from economists Tyler Cowen and Alex Tabarrok, in their Econ 101 textbook, Modern Principles of Economics:

Yes, economic policy can be useful but sometimes policy goes awry, for instance, when inflation gets out of hand. Inflation, one of the most common problems in macroeconomics, refers to an increase in the general level of prices. Inflation makes people feel poorer but, perhaps more important, rising andespecially volatile prices make it harder for people to figure out the real values of goods, services, and investments. For these and other reasons, most people (and economists) dislike inflation.

But where does inflation come from? The answer is simple: Inflation comesabout when there is a sustained increase in the supply of money. When peoplehave more money, they spend it, and without an increase in the supply of goods, prices must rise. As Nobel laureate Milton Friedman once wrote: “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon.”

The United States, like other advanced economies, has a central bank; in the United States that bank is called the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve has the power and the responsibility to regulate the supply of money in the American economy. This power can be used for good, such as when the Federal Reserve holds off or minimizes a recession. But the poweralso can be used for great harm if the Federal Reserve encourages too much growth in the supply of money. The result will be inflation and economic disruption.

In Zimbabwe, the government ran the printing presses at full speed for many years. By the end of 2007, prices were rising at an astonishing rate of 150,000 percent per year. The United States has never had a problem of this scope or anything close to it but inflation remains a common concern.

Amazingly, the inflation rate in Zimbabwe kept rising. In January of 2008, the government had to issue a 10-million-dollar bank note (worth about 4 U.S. dollars), and a year later they announced a 20-trillion-dollar note that bought about what 10 million dollars had a year earlier. In early 2009, the inflation rate leaped to billions of percent per month! Finally, in April of 2009 the government stopped issuing the Zimbabwean dollar altogether and permitted trade using foreign currencies such as the South African rand and U.S. dollar.

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@ethang5
If you’re not allocating resources at all, you are creating new money—you’re effectively engaging in an extreme form of quantitative easing by injecting money directly into the economy (without purchasing any securities). In fact, it’s not even quantitative easing, because in quantitative easing, (1) governments get assets, in the form of government bonds, out of it, and (2) the money is used to increase the liquidity of banks, not directly transferred to individuals. That would be a problem because it would result in high inflation, reduce the purchasing power of that money, and, by extension, damage the lives of people. 

Money only has value because we create such value—so it is a limited resource, albeit not an intangible one. If you’re not creating new money, you’d be giving out a $1 million cash transfer to the poor (most cash transfers are through bank accounts anyway; bank money isn’t, in the large scale, functionally different than physical cash). 

This something you’d learn in Econ 101.
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@thett3
Actually, as per section V, they’re using real income measures, which are adjusted for inflation (though not necessarily purchasing power parity.

However, the sentence immediately after the sentence you quote is: “The CZ-level mobility statistics are robust to adjusting for differences in the local cost of living, shocks to local growth, and using alternative measures of income.” This suggests that they’re adjusting for cost of living as well.
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@thett3
That’s fair.

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Why did you prefer Bernie Sanders to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election? Would appreciate a detailed answer (since you asked to specify whether I wanted you to expand on anything), thanks.

Why do you support single-payer healthcare in the United States? I’m uncertain, but leaning against it at the moment.

Why do you prefer a UBI to a negative income tax?

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@thett3
I wouldn’t be surprised if there actually were benefits. I believe that multicultural spaces have their place and should exist, I just don’t think it’s a viable model for entire countries/societies.
As I pointed out, the research is mixed on whether there are benefits. I tend to side with the view that multiculturalism is a good model for entire countries, but I don't really feel like arguing about that.

You can find most of Raj Chetty's research here: https://opportunityinsights.org

One fun study: https://academic.oup.com/qje/article/129/4/1553/1853754 (This study isn't specifically about diversity, but one of its findings is that high-mobility areas tend to be diverse racially.)




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@thett3
And to be clear, the research on diversity is in dispute—both in schools and outside. Consider, for example, Robert Putnam’s research on diversity’s effects on trust within communities and on social capital.
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@thett3
Most research on diversity, or any social science research in general, is so political that if it isn’t completely fraudulent it’s at the very least intellectually dishonest.
The research on diversity I tend to read is from economists, who are generally pretty moderate and includes loads of people who are both center-right and center-left, so I wouldn’t say it’s politically motivated. And some of the research that’s based on big data and thorough evidence collection—Harvard’s Raj Chetty comes to mind—is pretty good, from what I’ve seen. 

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@ResurgetExFavilla
Will read it by the end of the week, looks interesting. 
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@ResurgetExFavilla
It's why they supported school integration despite studies showing that it had no positive effect on education outcomes
Wait, really?

I dunno about specifically desegregation in Brown v. Board of Education, but the majority of research that I've seen indicates that schools with more heterogeneous demographic composition tend to have better academic outcomes. These are the studies on this issue that I have bookmarked, that I just dug up:


To be fair, I did just did a Google search and found some studies that found no positive effects or mixed effects of school desegregation:


But there certainly seems to be debate in academia about this, at least. 

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Tejretics - AMA
I prefer to answer questions on economics and policy issues, but most questions about anything are welcome. I obviously don't guarantee answers to questions I find inappropriate. 
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Anyone majoring in economics?
Is anyone on here majoring in economics, or, alternatively, does anyone plan to attend grad school in econ?

Just curious. 
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@Alec
Innocent until proven guilty.  If the liberals won't punish a murderer without proof, they also shouldn't punish rapists without proof.
Fair enough, but presumably the punishment of a reasonably wealthy person who has been accused of sexual assault being relegated to a somewhat lower-paying job has a lower standard of proof than someone being tried of sexual assault in a court of law. Punishment should be proportional to how sure we are that someone committed sexual assault or other crimes for which accusations are often credible, I think, is the stance of most #MeToo activists. In general, the movement accepts the need for some due process. 

In cases where that due process wasn't possible, different people try to make different probabilistic estimations of an incident occurring and make judgments based on that. It's not perfect and it's a very utilitarian way of looking at things (i.e., it is willing to accept a few unjust outcomes in the process of promoting the greatest good for the greatest number), but it probably isn't equivalent to sending someone to prison without evidence. 


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@coal
>Should, for example, a baker be required to fulfill a client’s request to bake a cake with a pro-marriage equality message on it? (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/10/uk-supreme-court-backs-bakery-that-refused-to-make-gay-wedding-cake) For clarity, this is different than a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. 

There is, indeed, a difference between refusing to bake a cake for use at a gay wedding that is materially indistinguishable from a cake that would be used at a heterosexual wedding (beyond, say, trivialities like plastic figures on top); and refusing to bake a cake for use at a gay wedding that IS materially distinguishable from a cake that would be used at a heterosexual wedding.  The former implicates immutable quality based discrimination, whereas the latter implicates what you might call "a right of professional discretion" implicated in one's profession. 

Recently, I was watching a documentary on YouTube about tattoo artists, and the subject of this part of the documentary was about he tattoos that tattoo artists declined to perform.  Different people had different lines as it relates to what they would or would not do.  For example, one person said that he would not apply a face tattoo to someone who had not had their face tattooed before, because the long term implications of that would be unreasonably harmful.  That's an excellent thing to do.  Another person said that they would not apply a particular tree tattoo on someone's forehead, because the tattoo was associated with violence against women.  That is another excellent reason to decline to apply a tattoo.  A third person refused to do Nazi tattoos, or anything associated with Hitler or the Third Reich (no iron crosses, nazi-eagles, etc.).  That seemed perfectly reasonable to me as well.  None of them ever said that they refused to apply a tattoo on someone because a prospective customer was gay, a woman, a minority race, etc. 

When we are talking about 'the content applied to a cake', rather than a cake itself, is similar to the difference in "refusing to apply a tattoo to a person because of who or what the person was" in contrast with "refusing to apply a particular tattoo because of objections to the tattoo's contents".  I would have a problem with the former, because doing otherwise would be to legitimize discrimination under the pretext of professional discretion.  However, the latter implicates issues that go beyond discrimination, and implicate higher and more individualized questions of professional ethical decisions that, if regulated, would fall into the territory of "compelled speech".  
This answer makes a lot of sense, thanks. 

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@coal
If you were to rank the ten best universities and colleges in the United States, what would your ranking be?

What would your ranking be specifically for STEM fields?

What about for the social sciences?

Use any criteria you think are important.
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@bsh1
Separate proposal, I think the COC should make clear what a sufficient vote in the choose winner system is.

No opinion on any of the MEEP proposals above.
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@3RU7AL
My mom watches The Good Place. Truth be told, I was a bit bored by it.

I don’t actively watch Adam Ruins Everything, but the few CollegeHumor clips of it that I’ve seen have been great.
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@coal
I have serious reservations about Modi, and Hundu nationalism in general.   
To clarify my position on this, I think he's been and will continue to be disastrous. 
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@coal
I’ve watched Last Week Tonight consistently for four years now. It often has unnuanced coverage and I often disagree with it, but I think it does a really good job of breaking down relatively obscure political issues. 

In the same vein, more recently, I’ve started watching Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj. I think it has a lot of room for improvement—it doesn’t discuss policy prescriptions or advance normative positions too much, dedicating more time to establishing the facts (which people could just look up) and to humor—but it has some gems. I loved the most recent one on hip hop music and streaming. Really well-researched, and the entire piece felt like reading a long Economist article, albeit hilarious.

I also watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine and One Day at a Time (the 2017–present TV show). Have enjoyed both, they’re very funny, cover real and important issues (Brooklyn Nine-Nine has looked at sexual assault and at racism in the police force so far, and One Day at a Time has had really moving, powerful issues about LGBT identity and undocumented immigration). I don’t really watch anything apart from those now. I did enjoy the most recent Daredevil season, though I could’ve done with less of the action, as well as the OJ Simpson season of American Crime Story. 


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@coal
Do you think governments should require that companies pay their interns?

I agree with you about the idea that unpaid internships are probably exploitative and hurt low-income and lower middle-income people. I’m unsure if I’d ban them, though. 
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@coal
Thoughts on the Green New Deal?

I’ve heard you say that the federal minimum wage should be raised to $20 an hour or more. Are you not worried about potential unemployment effects of high minimum wage requirements?

What do you think of Cory Booker’s “baby bonds” proposal?

I feel like I’ve asked you this before, but don’t remember your answer, so: do you think the US should “audit the Fed”?

Would South Africa be better off if it reelected Cyril Ramaphosa?

Would India be better off if it reelected Narendra Modi?

Which of the “Medicare-for-All” proposals do you like best?

Should people under the age of 18 be allowed to, with the consent of their parent(s) and a psychiatrist, receive sex-reassignment surgery?

Should parents encourage their children to determine their own gender identity and respect their preferences with respect to, for example, gender pronouns?

Thoughts on school vouchers? What about charter schools?

Should, for example, a baker be required to fulfill a client’s request to bake a cake with a pro-marriage equality message on it? (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/10/uk-supreme-court-backs-bakery-that-refused-to-make-gay-wedding-cake) For clarity, this is different than a baker refusing to bake a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. 

Thoughts on Quillette? 

I’ve heard you express the opinion that white privilege doesn’t exist before. Three questions here:
  1. What do you mean by “white privilege”?
  2. If you were to be convinced of its existence, what evidence would people who believed that it existed have to present? (Asking for examples of evidence—for instance, “if this statistic x came out, it would make a strong case, even if it didn’t convince me entirely, for white privilege’s existence, insofar as that statistic was backed by a plurality of the evidence.”)
  3. Why do you think it doesn’t exist?

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@Barney
I think this setup is flawed for other reasons, but net gain is gains - losses; in other words, not losing people, for the purposes of this set up, is counted as a gain. So both sides had a potential 100 points to gain, for all intents and purposes. 
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@Earth
Thoughts on unpaid internships?
Great question, I'd like to know too.

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Can someone explain the ethics of care in a simplified way?
What the title says.

I'm interested in understanding:

(1) What exactly the ethics of care is; is it a normative ethical theory? Is it a prescribed way to apply another normative ethical theory? In particular, I don't get what "care" means. 

(2) A clear and succinct explanation of what it prescribes (if anything).

(3) The role it plays in feminist theory and how it interacts with gender. 

Wikipedia and SEP haven't been useful in explaining it to me. 
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@spacetime
What are your thoughts on 16K's responses to you here, on work incentives? https://www.debate.org/debates/Universal-Basic-Income/1/

Also, Scott Alexander compares unconditional cash transfers to job guarantees; a lot of his analysis responds to your premise that we should try to get everyone into decent-paying jobs and that should be the goal of the welfare system. https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/05/16/basic-income-not-basic-jobs-against-hijacking-utopia/

I'm undecided about this issue, to be clear.
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@oromagi
I'm sure others have suggested this elsewhere but I strongly believe that the first forfeit in any debate should garner an automatic loss- no voting, no waiting.   This would really process through a lot of debates with lower interest levels, experiments, absences, etc and help focus the audience on debates where both sides are engaged.  Yes, that means a much smaller set of debates running but I think it would increase the number of debates & interest in them over time.

I like the idea of weekly themes or key words to encourage people to talk about the same things.  The more topical the better.

I like the idea of more frequent, low value recognition:  have a thread where people nominate best forum topic & response  of the week/ best debate/ best RFD, etc.  Last week's winner chooses this week's winner, etc.  Something like this can get little support in the beginning but even if it's lame in the beginning it incentivizes good writing, research, and calls attention to posts that inspire the next week.  I think something like DDO's Olympics was a good idea but the timeframes were killing interest.  I think you're better off doing quick cycles with a few participants that might potentially grow over iteration.  

More women.  Ask more women about how to attract more women.  Women are the majority of society- no social activity can be said to be really buzzing without a lot on interest & content from and for women.  A site like might always be dude-heavy but if we want something interesting here, we need to be always trying to improve the ration of women to men.

If a category of forum or debate isn't getting a lot of love, axe it.  If a category is getting most of the attention, divide it.  Right now the cars forum has 5 topics and 42 posts.  Why not stick those threads under technology
I think I disagree with the first forfeit thing, but I like these ideas.

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@spacetime
I like him as a person. But the centerpiece of the platform is UBI, which I don't support anymore. 
I oppose a UBI as well, but I think it'd probably be better than the status quo, and I don't think its net effect is negative, I just think there are better ways to structure the welfare system.

Apart from the UBI, Yang seems pretty smart, though I'm not sure I agree with him on everything. I'm interested in learning more about him. 

I reckon I'd support Biden if he ran, mainly because I am entirely unsure about foreign policy issues in general and my political opinions, therefore, are primarily formed based on environmental, economic (this includes microeconomics-ish social issues, such as drugs, healthcare, and education), and criminal justice policy. 

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@spacetime
Tucker Carlson. He has a healthy skepticism of laissez-faire economics (without taking it too far as many Democrats do). He has non-interventionist instincts on foreign policy. He's one of the only mainstream figures who's willing to talk about the negative sociological impacts of immigration. And of course, he fully rejects identity politics. That's everything I'm looking for in a presidential candidate.
The extent of my knowledge of Carlson is that he used to be on Crossfire and is on the famous video of Jon Stewart appearing on Crossfire. Seems like an ordinary conservative, perhaps more reasonable than some others, though his support for Donald Trump surprises me.

I was a fan of Richard Ojeda (the only Democrat who didn't seem obsessed with identity politics), but he dropped out, so I guess that leaves me with Trump.
Thoughts on Andrew Yang?

Why do you support Trump over Biden? I think I'd support even Sanders over Trump. 
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@spacetime
Who would you ideally like to be US president?

Of the current likely candidates or people who've expressed interest in running, who would you support?

Also, what would your preferred healthcare system in the US look like?
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