TheRealNihilist

I was thinking a 600ml Holy water and a 36g pack of Christ body flavoured wafers should clear things up. 

Sometimes it can be necessary to make the GDP go down temporarily for the sake of a greater cause like making the border more secure from illegal aliens. I'm not too sure.

In fact, if you compare the GDP during Trump's first 2 years of presidency, and the GDP during Obama's first 2 years of presidency (2008 to 2010), then you can see that Trump did, in fact, do a much better job at boosting the economy than Obama did.

but Trump improved it much quicker than Obama did. Maybe this doesn't really matter in the long run, but it's still worth noting.

promote terrorism and violence towards women and other innocents https://anfenglish.com/women/domestic-violence-against-women-in-iran-increased-by-20-percent-28457

supported the September 11 2001 attacks on the world trade centers? https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/05/judge-iran-pay-6bn-victims-911-attacks-180501120240366.html

and advocate for your death too, calling for death to your country?

Because of this, it does make sense to seek peace instead of war, even against those that seriously wrong you.

At the same time though, sometimes war is necessary. It was necessary to free slaves (Civil War)

it was necessary to put at end to the Nazis (Holocaust/WW2)

it was necessary to achieve independence from Britain (Revolutionary War), it was necessary to reduce the spread of communism (Vietnam War), and another war may very well be necessary to keep the Iranians from getting nuclear weapons.

I know a war isn't what people really want, but it might be what we could end up getting...

what reasonable means isn't determined by presidents. it's determined by judges and or juries. 

Who has control over judges and juries and the laws they abide by the most?

Not control as in make them corrupt as in appoint people to positions. 

why should the standard for preventing gun access be that the person already committed a violent crime beyond a reasonable doubt?

Problem could be what is defined "reasonable".

I appreciate that my dude

Don't worry about it. 

I'll probably work until I die then

How do you older people deal with boredom?

What do you like now?
Don't need to tell me just do it until you get bored.
When you do hope that in that time you have also take a liking to something else like gardening. When the eventual boredom does occur just simply move to the 2nd hobby. From that hope you found a 3rd hobby. When bored move to 3rd hobby. Either you can change between the 3 hobbies at your will or keep adding on the things you like doing. I think this is the best advice anyone can give. A hobby can be having children just with more responsibility than lets playing a single player video game where you can play whenever you want. You can't decide not to feed or play to with the baby if you don't want the baby dead or be positive towards.

If you are not really good at liking other things. Pace yourself with the things you like. This can be going all out with a thing you like for 1 day then only spending a couple of minutes or none for the other days so that the feeling doesn't get burnt out quickly. 

Hopefully this helps. Shouldn't really be thinking about this now but if you found something now just shove it somewhere and dig it out when you are bored. 

Iranian forces just shot down a US military drone, a major escalation that could push the two-month standoff between America and the Islamic Republic into very dangerous territory — and possibly bring the two countries much closer to war.

The first problem with that statistic is that it doesn't account for 2019. It only accounts for the prior years. Maybe we need to wait for it to get updated or something? 

The second thing is that it doesn't specify which month the economic growth dropped and then rose up again - only the year. This matters because, then, we can confirm that it was WHEN Trump took the office, that the economic growth reduced, and not just prior.

Third, how exactly did Trump becoming president in 2016 > lead to the economic growth dropping? How do we know that it was specifically Trump responsible for this and not Obama, when Obama was still president in 2016 up until Trump got elected?

Sorry for not accurately answering what you said about that. I didn't know that it was specifically a graph that you were looking for... and yeah, I'll put links under each other next time, too!

Were you around some years back when headline news was this barge of garbage in ocean that no country included USA could find a place for?

First you correct "this argument works" and guns is distracting side issue to this thread and yes humanity has no need of guns except dart guns for tranquilizing wild animals and crazy white nationlist supermacists.

Not in the long run it is not, and nobody really knows the amount of cancers and genetic mutations that have resulted or will result from humans venture into nuclear power to date.

Do you really believe there are not many more nuclear accidents going to occur?  Your really ignorant if dont.

Wind, solar, hydro, hyro-thermal,  natural gas, hydrogen and if we can burn all  the garbage floating around on barges that no country wants without considerable pollutions to atmosphere, lets do it.  

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.  You dont get that yet.

Mars and nuclear power and nuclear weapons are NOT the priority for a unified humanity that wants the longest days forward with the least amount of human sufferring. Please read my lips/text. 

Ergo you likened to the ship Captain that cannot drop their ego and change course.  

1} we have a human population problem for some of the  dangerous systems  ---nukes and coal---  we have in place to supply the energy needs being asked for,

Prove to me we have an overpopulation problem.

2} parts of humanity are not  being considerate of its actions and dangerous resultants thereof i.e. humanity has yet learned to prioritize what is best for humanity,

3} both 1 and 2 can only be addressed significantly via a unified humanity that does not place financial profit above ecological environment that sustains all biological life on Earth,

4} humans are going butt forward into the future instead mind forward ergo the resultant is a bruising of humanities 'butt' over and over and over again and again and again. Ex over hunting whales,

5} all of the above require a comprehensive wholistic set of considerations, that, could be done independantly with computer modeling just as humans have done with climate modeling, however, the scale and desire{ spirit } to do this has to be driven by a broad base coalition of humans spiritual intent on finding options forward for the longest term survival with the least amount of human suffering,

I don't think so, because the president requires approval from congress to go to war with any country, and it wouldn't make sense for congress to approve of "some post hoc rationalization like we were threatened, we did it for democracy, terrorism or they are a dictatorship" over an actual legitimate reason to go to war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution

The War Powers Resolution (also known as the War Powers Resolution of 1973 or the War Powers Act) (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548)[1] is a federal law intended to check the president's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of the U.S. Congress.

I guess it's better that we're "mudering a little threat" now, while it's little, rather than waiting for that little threat to escalate into a much bigger and more dangerous and serious threat, right?

Here are 2 articles/studies that explain how Iran has so much terrorism going on.

https://www.scribd.com/document/420935121/byman2008

https://www.scribd.com/document/420935266/Sick-2003

One of them even says, and I quote: Since the Islamic Revolution in 1979, Iran has been one of the world’s most active sponsors of terrorism. Tehran has armed, trained, financed, inspired, organized, and otherwise supported dozens of violent groups over the years. 1 Iran has backed not only groups in its Persian Gulf neighborhood, but also terrorists and radicals in Lebanon, the Palestinian territories, Bosnia, the Philippines, and elsewhere. 2 This support remains strong even today: the U.S. government regularly contends that Iran is tied to an array of radical groups in Iraq.

Maybe it's because they don't have so much terrorism, hatred, violence, and corruption like Iran and Iraq do? Maybe it's because were allies with them and not enemies? https://uk.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/policy-history/

The United States has no closer ally than the United Kingdom, and British foreign policy emphasizes close coordination with the United States.

It's not possible to "improve our relationship" with everyone. Some people will always hate you no matter what, some nations are a lost cause, and I guess the best thing we can do is work on cutting down on all the terrorism, nuclear weapons, and corruption over there, since we don't trust them enough.

https://i.imgur.com/DHwVP6a.png

This article explains the economic growth under Donald Trump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_Donald_Trump

Trump's tax reform plan was signed into law in December 2017, which included substantial tax cuts for higher income taxpayers and corporations as well as repeal of a key Obamacare element, the individual mandate.

What exactly did either of those sites say about "sanctions on China"?

What do you mean Trump hasn't built his wall yet and that "it hasn't happened yet"? It's been assembled for like a year now! It wasn't easy, and it wasn't a literal solid wall, but rather a tall fence that you could see through.

What do you mean when you say Iran isn't a national security. It says here that "President Donald J. Trump announced a new strategy on Iran and outlined a number of steps the United States is taking to confront the Iranian regime’s hostile actions and ensure the country never acquires a nuclear weapon." http://www.magapill.com/donald-trump-accomplishments/state-department/United-States-Announces-a-New-Strategy-on-Iran.html

I think it's great that we're making sure that another country can't get a potential nuclear weapon to potentially use against us or something, don't you agree?

Also, the website did in fact cite sources. Did you miss that too?

Here. I drew a big red circle around the link to the source with arrows pointing to it so you can clearly see it, in case you might have missed it or something. https://i.imgur.com/tPa4hjN.png

It links to this government website. https://blogs.state.gov/stories/2017/10/13/en/new-us-strategy-iran

I don't think the site is claiming that Trump started economic growth instead of Obama, but rather that Trump is drastically improving it.

Maybe I AM just using this to confirm some kind of bias that I have, but either way, Trump is getting some things done. 

Maybe he just isn't getting ENOUGH done? Or maybe he just hasn't done anything SIGNIFICANT or anything that truly stands out? I don't know.

No, I don't believe in solipsism. 

Why not?

For the most part yes. I guess I had not been clear enough in this thread.

That;s part of capitalism

Taxes is a socialist policy.

ummmmm look

Where?

Capitlist

And?

They already knew

How do you know that?

you cant have mixed

What is the United States?

bish and casten were on the first page

I gave them information and after that they banned him. From my perspective. Ask Castin or bsh1 if you think I am wrong. 

so socialism

The mods wer already present before

What do you mean?

With what

Taxes and other re-distributive policies. 

 I just don't think that children will be the solution for me though,

You never know where life would take you in the future. Think about how your life was about couple of years ago. I doubt you would think you would be in the position you are in now. Things change. You could have children even if you don't see yourself having any currently. 

kudos to all the people trying to be awesome parents though :)

Do you think someone told on Wylted

I did. If you saw the comments I made earlier I laid out what he said to who and Castin said he was banned. 

but I don't understand why anyone really wants kids.

I guess I can try before they tell you themselves:

I love how Wylted gets banned for racism but marij is not touched calling whites terrorists, really shows the bias 

Moderates require you to report the situation. Find evidence. Show it to them then wait to see if they agree. 

Just about every president/candidate has lied/cheated about something or another in their lives,

I agree that people who like or dislike someone (whether it's Trump or some other candidate) should at least know why they do so. Some people, however, just don't feel like doing their own research... oh well.

If you want to see a list of Donald Trump's policies/accomplishments, you can check out these sites. https://www.promiseskept.com/# http://www.magapill.com/

Do you believe in solipsism?

Do you?

https://www.debateart.com/debates

You have recently added a new feature when a debate goes into a voting period. The debate in question I am referencing is "Life is created by God" which has an icon of a square tick and something else below it. I suggest that be removed and replaced with letters because I don't think people would realize that hovering over reveals how much time is left. It is not really the a common occurrence to hover over things to reveal important information. If you don't want to remove the icon simply make the writing smaller underneath. Doing this will reduce the time it would take to know how long the voting period is. 

Someone who says discriminatory things to people on the sole basis of their race.

Can their be other reasons attached or can it only be based on race? What if the most important reason is race?

Threatening to beat someone up is illegal, but the supreme court has ruled multiple times that hate speech is protected under the constitution, as long as it isn't a threat or accompanied with some other crime.

I don't agree with the ruling.

This is about whether or not hate speech is legal, not if whether or not speaking Spanish is legal.

The one who primarily ensures this in most interactions you have on this website is you so far.

 If someone is having fun then they are not really using a debate site.

There are racists outside of the KKK, but they are rare.  

How do you define a racists since you have already stated there are racists?

A hate crime doesn't exist on its own.  If I were to say the N word to a black person while beating him up, that would be assault with a hate crime attached to it. 

If I just say the N word in a hateful way, the black person would probably be angry, which they can be.  But it would not be a crime to do the latter.