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You asked for the difference. I showed you the difference, How would you expect me to show you the difference you buffoon.
I call this a distinction without a difference. Both hold the same fundamentals but reach that goal in different ways.
Go away you clown. Islam is very clear that the penalties for both Homosexuality and adultery is death. Are you denying this fact?
Why are you changing what you said earlier? You had a problem with Muslims stoning adulterers and homosexuals. You sure you can register in your thick skull that you can be wrong?
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@Stephen
here is a clue;ISLAM - Quran 51 - " You, who have believed, do not take the Jews andthe Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoeveris an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allahguides not the wrongdoing people".ISLAM - Quran 8:39 "And fight them until there is no fitnah and[until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah......"Christianity - Matthew 22:39 "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself".Christianity - Matthew 5:38-40 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat
Cherry picking to suit your narrative. Lets first speak about the foundation of both Religions. Both claim they are true and both don't allow others to be apart of another Religion. All you have a problem with is the framing of what they have said. Since the New Testament came around you have an easy cop out to look this is not as bad as that but the Old Testament is worse than the Qur'an.
Christians do not stone homosexuals to death, they do not stone adulterers to death and they do not stone victims or rape to death either. islam does all three.THAT IS THE FKN DIFFERENCE!!!!!!
No but if we asked them what happens to people who sin? Well they are going to being in hell for eternity if they do not repent. Same goes for Islam. Your problem is with the severity. Okay then since you like conflating bad practices with people with the Qur'an. I am going to challenge you on them.
Evidence that the Qur'an says to stone homosexuals.
Evidence that the Qur'an says to stone adulterers.
I don't know why you have a hate boner for Islam but you really need to jerk it off before you make statements that of course are missing key information. Like the Old Testament, the enlightenment period, what are the fundamentals, what your problem actually is, not trying to conflate bad practices with the Qur'an.
You say you don't have a problem with Muslims but then the last thing I quoted was the very problem you had with Muslims not Islam. You had a problem with Muslims stoning homosexuals and adulterers not the Qur'an stating it to be so. What did you say you had a problem with again?
Masturbate please. It relieves stress and your use of capital letters and exclamation marks makes me think you really need it.
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@Stephen
I hope so. I believe that there would be a better class of people in hell, should hell actually exist.
So what is the difference between Islam and Christianity again?
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@Stephen
What about you are going to hell because you are not a Christian for eternity?What about the promise of paradise and seventy virgins and wine that doesn't get you drunk? Does that drive people to do "irrational things".
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@Dr.Franklin
Who instigated the Iran vs US conflict?U.S was trying for a peaceful middle east,
Being aggressive
How does someone be aggressive and cause tension?
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@Dr.Franklin
Increasing aggression in the Iraq-Iran war
So where was the US in this again?
I was speaking about who was the aggressor or increased tensions with US and Iran.
Tensions
Define tension or aggression.
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@Ramshutu
So something that is objective in a specific case but is not universal?You can turn an is into an ought if you anchor the ought into something objectively deductible, but not universal.
How is it objective then?
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@Dr.Franklin
Yes, it's war,war is hell
Okay so why are you so annoyed when Iran attacks but not when the US does? Are you a hypocrite?
They were the aggressors
Evidence?
Being overily aggresive
How do you be aggressive?
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@Ramshutu
I tend to be more practical - I don’t think either are particularly useful to real discussions.
In what context.
Pick any context which you think they are both useful and decide which one is more important.
Its a form of tautology. So it’s correct. What you “sum”, is up in the air, but if there is something that cogitos, it sums.
Tautology: a phrase or expression in which the same thing is said twice in different words.
Is that what you mean with tautology?
Of course; but you need to go right round the houses into a discussion of evolutionary morality!
Have an example of this?
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@Dr.Franklin
So starting a war means you can kill people who are not part of that war?I did read the title, And no if you kill civilians, it's your fault for starting war
Do you have a source to support that Iran started the war?
How do you start a war?
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@Dr.Franklin
Read post #51. What I quoted from your source.
Do quote it in your next response so I know you read it.
When you kill innocents you have crossed the line. Do you agree?
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@Dr.Franklin
Your own source provided an example where the US were the aggressor and Iran wanted vengeance. You have a problem with what Iran did but not what US did to start that specific conflict?What did you U.S instigated, because of that they caused terrorism for the world.
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@Ramshutu
What is more important cogito ergo sum or Hume's law?
Anyway you want to define importance.
Do you think cogito ergo sum is correct?
Do you think we can ever derive an ought from an is?
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@keithprosser
Using fear to drive people to do irrational things where we need a more rational response to problems.
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@Dr.Franklin
Did you even read the title?
"THE U.S. KILLED 300 IRANIAN CITIZENS. AMERICANS DON'T REMEMBER THIS—BUT IRANIANS DO"
They are terrorists for wanting revenge on what the US instigated?
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@bmdrocks21
Well, I believe in the inalienable rights. They are inherent.
Can you prove they are inherent?
Government's are set up to protect those rights.
No disagreement here.
I'm sure you would agree right to life is important.
Yes but it doesn't mean we have a right to life. Life is important in various categories and in other categories it is not. That "Yes" was based on categories life was important.
I'm sure we'd disagree on abortion
Maybe.
Hence my stance on abortion. I think it is murder, and we aren't stopping it.
I would like to know how a right to life is inherent.
Sure you can think abortion but that isn't the contention I had. If you want to discuss it then after the explaining inherent rights part.
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@Mharman
Because we need a deal that's good for us. Here's an idea. They denuclearize, we remove the sanctions.
How about the US don't bomb Iran and Iran won't do the same?
What is the difference between the UK and the US compared to the US and Iran?
"Under the deal, Iran gained access to more than $100bn in assets frozen overseas, and was able to resume selling oil on international markets and using the global financial system for trade."
It is oil not nukes. Are Iran not even allowed to trade anymore?
They fund terrorists. they chant "death to America". How are they a non-threat?
Evidence of funding terrorism.
Evidence that death of America resulted in an attack to America?
They are completely against the US. They wouldn't attack the US given the striking advantage they. It is insane to even think they would instigate the war so the US will. I thin the US will at least go to war with Iran.
I don't want a war...
Then tell your Republican representatives that.
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