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@Dr.Franklin
Can't think of a defense. Laugh at your own failure.
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@Dr.Franklin
The snitch has admitted it.
I'll remind people who have a foul tongue to keep DA a safe space for you or else he would call God on you. You know the one that actually does something not the other one that doesn't exist.
I consider Christianity a degradation to people's mind and your lack of talking past the surface level painful to read. I can't report you for your behavior because whatever you call whatever you do is not against the rules but hurting Dr.Franklin's feelings is in the rules.
You don't believe in free speech. Your a hypocrite and your admittance to censoring speech is a testament to that. Bigot.
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@Mharman
The Iran Nuke Deal wasn't a solution
So why not actually give them a deal which is good for them instead of f*ing them over?
We basically gave them tons of money to delay their nuclear program.
Evidence that the United States government gave them money?
And that's why going back on the Nuke Deal and opting for sanctions was the right call.
If you think Iran is a threat then propaganda has worked. I am not surprised. I just know one more person willing to go to war with yet another country who poses no foreseeable threat to the United States.
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@Dr.Franklin
The snitch reported him.
Guess we all know who the triggered snowflake is who requires a safe space to not have their precious little mind, cared for by helicopter parents, challenged.
I know you are but-hurt about getting banned for you comments but that doesn't mean you can actually take away your ban by getting other people banned. You were banned get over it. Maybe then you calm down from being a snitch.
That profile picture is against what you are. Scarface died on top of the world. You on the other hand died no where near the top.
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@Mharman
Iran should've had those harsher sanctions in the first place instead of the Iran Nuke Deal.
But they didn't and guess what? With that they didn't use it to build nuclear weapons. If they did the US government would have such an easy time leaking Iran's nuclear supplies with espionage but that is not the case.
Besides, they could've used that money from the Iran Nuke Deal to foster peace and prosperity. But they gave funding to Hezbollah instead.
Could doesn't mean they have. What we do know that a less harsh deal Iran kept to it but still the US couldn't trust them. Wonder why? Maybe because Trump took into office and Obama and Trump think differently.
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@bmdrocks21
Where does that right come from?Essentially. I am saying that you and I have the right to life unless we do something to forfeit that right(ie attempt to murder someone-self defense). Whether or not the government or other citizens respect it, it is something that we do have a right to have
Who protects that right?
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@Mharman
So it is Iran's fault that the US has a change of heart even though they were following the first deal?The reason the sanctions are here in the first place is because Iran (a country that can't be trusted with nukes) started developing uranium. The initial response of the Iran Nuke Deal was terrible, and swapping it for some sanctions instead is far better.
Why should Iran accept United States sanctions?
Do you not see it as a slap on the face when the United States impose a harsher deal even when they haven't proven Iran broke the previous deal?
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@Mharman
Both the UK and the US are wrong.If they choose the former, they admit that they were wrong and Trump was right. If they choose the latter, they will have sided Iran over The Western World.
So I am supposed to agree with the state even if they are wrong? Are you an authoritarian?
UK and the US are wrong in this situation doesn't mean I side with Iran generally.
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@bmdrocks21
Care to explain how they exist outside the government?Rights exist
Are you saying as an idea?
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@Stephen
If so, my answer would be it may have something to do with teachings in the quran. Barring the "tiny minority". What do you think?
Yeah I meant the other question. If it was just the teachings why a worse book called the Old Testament was able to reach an enlightenment stage to be changed to the New Testament?
I have already stated why I think it is the case.
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@keithprosser
The big issue is whether this time round the xenophobes might have a point.
If they do then they are clearly missing important data. Lets take for instance the middle east. We can take the stance that the place is really f*cked but we can also not realize what caused that to happen. US and other country intervention while also puppet governments.
I take the stance that the failure of middle eastern countries lies on external factors more than internal factors. If that is also your position you shouldn't be making the countries even worse. I have an analogy for this.
A homeless man was homeless because he wasn't able to pay of his healthcare which resulted in him going bankrupt and losing his house. Progressives want healthcare paid through tax. This will allow the homeless man to not worry about healthcare costs and maybe not be homeless anymore. If we take the position we should help people based on things they had no fault in then the US should also be helping the middle east as well.
It does kind of seem like I wouldn't help people if it was their fault but I still would and my analogy wasn't that good. Just what I thought about right now. The last line in my analogy should help you understand what I mean if you didn't understand my analogy.
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@Stephen
And it is allowed to be scrutinised and questioned and criticised, I do so all the time and go unmolested. Where as Islam, you are commiting a fk crime if you dare do the same.
I like how you pivoted from the position you can't defend. You know he was being disingenuous with presenting those data.
Have you heard of the abortion laws in Alabama? You know it is against the law to go against Biblical inspired anti-abortion laws right?
One "fk" crime is all I need to show you that Christians also provide laws that also infringe on rights. I don't need to show you how they prevent you from questioning or criticizing when a more important problem like passing laws has already been done. What is the use of your criticism when it is a majority Christian lawmakers and they don't give a "fk" about what you think and others and still done it?
This is not a pivot more so to show the biases you have. You see muh Islam bad but you can't see muh Christianity good. If you did you would have stated both of them infringe of liberties.
Why do you think Islam is like how they are?
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@Dr.Franklin
Christianity is against the rules yet Christian propaganda is still allowed on the site.
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@Dr.Franklin
If this site against harrassment, violence etc it won't allow the advocacy of Christianity.
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@Stephen
Are you f*cking braindead?
Shapiro says your an extremist if you dislike that the US who have been f*cking over the Middle East and you are an extremist for wanting your Religious law in the country you live in. How is that extremist?
Did you even watch the video or can't you even listen?
Does something that says brown people are not as bad as you think they are not register in your thick skull?
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@Dr.Franklin
I meant Christianity. I kind of changed my statements later on reflect. I couldn't edit the comment so I left it as is.I think being Religious as in Christian pretty much should be banable
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@Dr.Franklin
Where did I say this?You want them banned for being a Chrstian
Do you not understand how you can have a disagreement with someone?
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@Dr.Franklin
I just disagree with them. Lol.If you had balls, you would apologize for your blatant bigotry of Christians.
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@disgusted
I typed the last one to you but Stephen can see it as well.
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@Stephen
I would congratulate you on this but I would be accused and convicted of personal attack.
If Stephen had any balls he would actually apologize for blatant Muslim bigotry in a form of false evidence but since he is consistent of not showing his biases I doubt he will admit to it.
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@Stephen
I can't comprehend how much of a bigot you are.
This has got to be enough to call you an Islamaphobe because if you actually realized what he was doing. He was using many different sources to increase the number. All those sources have different ways to gather data and do not have the same level of validity and are talking about different things. With this in mind it is completely awful way of gathering data. By saying X poll says 20million then another says 20million. I will now add them together and I get 40million. That is what that video just did. No mention of them having the same level of measuring data nor how they measure data similarly. You actually don't know what you are talking about and keep your hate for brown people to yourself. If that didn't get into your skull here is a video that does say the video is bad but kind of in a different way than I did.
Thank me later if you have changed. If you haven't be quiet.
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@Dr.Franklin
So what if a gay/lesbian was speaking about it?For what you did and that, yes
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@Dr.Franklin
its immature
So being immature makes you "fucking weird"?
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@Dr.Franklin
Are you "fucking weird"ed out when I talk about bisexuality?Your clarification is fucking weird and fit for PM
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@Dr.Franklin
I am insane for asking clarification or am I insane that I don't also think homosexuality is sinful therefore I am insane?
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@Dr.Franklin
What do I have to be to be called insane from you?No, your someone who I disagree with, but generally rude as well
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@Alec
If I get to become the leader of the US it doesn't matter? You do know I would be the first to have an impact on laws right?If every party gets their turn, why does it matter?
Because it would lead to the end of the 2 party system and would produce groups that are more ideologically consistent.
You haven't demonstrated that.
I would tolerate it for their portion of a term. After that, the libertarians rule, then the GOP rules.
What if the left wins every portion?
I guess you said hope but hope is not really enough to make something possible. It can determination but not results.
I would like you to reply to what I quoted above.
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@Alec
Yes it does matter who is elected first.
You haven't shown how they are going to be more ideological consistency instead I see one group ruling whereas every other are powerless against their support. You wouldn't like it if they leaned to the left. I would like it if they leaned right. I guess you said hope but hope is not really enough to make something possible. It can determination but not results.
Your examples I think are unlikely to occur. I am thinking if that ever happened Republicans would be the ruling group whether it be through wealthy donors or unfaithful democrats. More so money since I don't think there is too many which would switch sides or many that actually had a large following in the democratic party.
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@Dr.Franklin
Since we are talking about morals. All you can say is you don't align with my morals and we won't go anywhere. Don't really see the point in arguing that since you pretty much dropped the slavery isn't permitted in the Bible.
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@Dr.Franklin
Oh yeah. I remeber the guy with I think a Christian picture or a picture of chess pieces.
What do you call me? Insane as well?
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@keithprosser
It was a subtle flame, but only Mopac responded to the suggestion David was gay.There almost certainly was a king david, but I don't think we can treat the Bible's account of him as reliable history.David and Jonathan were often portrayed homoerotically in art (cf Michaeangelo's David and Donatello's David, alsohttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Frederic_Leighton_-_Jonathan_token_to_David_-_c.1868.jpg) but there's no guarantee Jonathan even existed.
Maybe he has societally agreed women external actions that are percieved to be homosexual or something.
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@Dr.Franklin
Iconoclast?Wow, very rude, coal wouldn't know my enemies, backwardseden, Iconoclast,FBMT, WOA,Hariskish,Willows,
FBMT?
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@Dr.Franklin
I don't consider you my enemy. Your just an idiot.
coal did also make it plural which means name more than 1. Can you or something?
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@Alec
Who is elected first?
Is it still a two-party system?
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@Vader
My last comment was to you.
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@keithprosser
Okay. It is just the way you say it makes it seem like you found a quote that the Bible has that they are pro-homosexuality. The quote would have to talk about sexuality not just love due to the differences there are in love.The David and Jonathan verse is the closest the Bible gets to not condemning homosexuality, and it's not that close!
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We should all be slaves under god and his righteousness. You're too far gone in your delusional state of being to be saved.
Your too much of a twat to realize how stupid you are. You are too far gone.
If there are slaves in a society, they need to be treated with the same love and affection. What whites did to blacks in the 1800s is not protected under our faith, but the libtards don't get that
Your problem isn't with human property your problem is with bad ways of treating human property. I have a problem with human property in general. I don't advocate for right ways of having slaves because I am too busy arguing against the entire topic of slavery.
Religion is the only reason why people live their life to be good, so they can be treated good in the after life. Invalid point
An idiot calling something invalid? Okay. I'll go take my advice from someone who takes advice from a theologian.
This world would be convaluted with rapists and murders if we did not have religion
Morals exist without God. You haven't made an argument against you just said something stupid.
Real Christianity is interpreted through the Bible, not the Pope. The Catholic system is evil and disgraceful to true values
Christianity is a disgrace and along with all the other Religions.
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@keithprosser
But this verse also says homosexuality is immoral.As I said, I couldn't find a verse against slavery per se, but slave trading was equated to other immoral acts.
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@n8nrgmi
i dont think it's realisitc to think a retina would just heal itself like that.
So you jump to conclusions instead of waiting what actually went on as in qualified individuals provide evidence to assert something. Okay.
i can't say it's impossible, though. so, what about that proposition i always give? can you find something like a healed retina happening to an atheist? i know you can find inexplicable things, but not things that look like violations of the laws of nature.
Shifting the burden to me as I am the one who believes in God. I don't you do.
we have someone getting their vision restored from an irrevresible disease. yet, you insist there's no evidence of the supernatural when it's right in front of you. like an ostrich that sticks its head in the sand
Why didn't you link a science paper instead? We can observe the person's retina before an after with the qualified individuals then they can give their take but no you gave a news source and a Biblical link.
Do you have a science paper dedicated to this or is your point not supported with evidence?
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@Dr.Franklin
Guess Christianity doesn't have a case against slavery.It may not condemm slavery, but it is not harsh and all in the love of Christ
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.
So yeah Christianity is not against slavery.
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@Mopac
Thanks for stating what other Christians can't either by ignorance or lying about what they truly believe.Obviously homosexuality is not condoned by the bible.
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@keithprosser
Was it sexual?Well, David and Jonathan were definitely both men!
Love can be non-sexual like a mother to a child so since it is not inherent that love necessary follows sexual interaction you would have to show it is the case.
I rather think that it was more that while slavery was accepted, those in the business of buying and selling slaves were considered to be low status and semi-criminals - a bit like used car salesmen today! I doubt many used car salesmen get to heaven.
I don't know what you mean. I would only get your context if I understood your context whereas if you simply gave me your argument there is less chance of me missing out on the context since I am talking about slavery right now not used car salesman.
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@n8nrgmi
Name what fallacy I committed?your fallacy is finding one in what i said.
if you dont think the evidence is sufficient or corroborated enough, that's one thing, but that's not a fallacy.
You have two different standards. One for God and another for lets say how democrats on average are more intelligent than Republicans. One is supported by data from qualified individuals whereas another is simply a story about someone's opinion. Someone's opinion is not the same as a qualified opinion. You know that yet you still commit the special pleading fallacy.
'miracles'
Define miracle or maybe you are going to do what you did before which is neglect the very thing I asked of you.
not just inexplicable that could later be explained. damaged retinas for example don't just spontaneously heal themselves.
Yes and your inability to show proof it was because of God is a testament to the different standards you have. One I actually look at the facts and another I can't explain something therefore God. Maybe leave the science to the scientist. You know like what you did with comparing intelligence between Republicans and Democrats.
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@n8nrgmi
This was used to show miracles
From a catholic website not from a scientific website which has peer review and credible people talking about things they are knowledgeable on. Really weird how you are able to bring actual facts when it comes to things other then Religion but now you show a glaring problem. You commit a special pleading fallacy to your theism. Instead of making theism abide by societal agreed upon standards like observable like agreeing with what the academic consensus is you choose to simply say I don't care about it in this specific so I am now a Christian.
Proof of praying is proof of praying. Not proof that praying results in someone being cured. If this was the case there would be a massive breakthrough in science. Instead of wasting our time with cancer research we should instead pray to God. Science as we know it would be useless if that was the case.
Do you have actual evidence or are you going to carry on with your special pleading fallacy?
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@keithprosser
"...very pleasant hast thou been unto me: thy love to me was wonderful, passing the love of women."2 Samuel 1:26 (kjv)
How is this referring to a man and another man loving each other sexually?
for slave traders
Simple call them bondservants so that Christians is outlawed from that punishment.
practicing homosexuality
Contradiction? If the first quote was supposed to show how the Bible is for homosexuality.
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@n8nrgmi
Define miraclei believe in miracles that have evidence for them
Then bring about evidence of the miracle.
but the noah story is contradicted by science.
And you are still a Christian? Why because a book written by God can contain myths or things not true so you call it a myth?
.i think miracles and near death experiences help prove god,
Scientific evidence of near death experiences making people closer to God or proving God's existence?
i think something causing the universe makes most sense per causation and God.
What caused God?
Just more stuff I want to know:
Quote me a verse that the Bible states they are against slavery.
Quote me a verse that the Bible is for homosexuality.
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@Barney
How about a moderation period where the moderators have an additional hour or whatever to check the votes to see if they make it?
This can be like every single vote must go past moderators or ones that people have propped up as problems.
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Not in the Bible
The Bible doesn't give definitions so we use the ones that we have now. Neighbor means people adjacent to your house. That isn't the entire world only like 2 house to the left and right of you.
The Bible supports the Death Penalty and war and killing in what way, fighting the nazi's, war is justified, war is a broad topic
Guess I am right. Don't love thy neighbor because they don't live next to you.
Right now, No
Why not?
Evidence? and hostility
Where are you going with this? I said internment camps not concentration camps. That is really simple to understand if you read my argument.
Since when was slavery in the Bible owning property. I have debunked your slavery claims.
Where did you debunk me? Bible makes owning human property permissible.
No, It's not on the basis of religion
It doesn't have to be. It can be that they have different values and cultures and you don't like them which is why you are a bigot.
Consveratives support Gay marriage and actually aligns with conservative ideology.
How long did that take? They are pretty much liars anyway given the Religion they hold dear.
People who disagree aren't bigots or homophobic, they just don't want to see it be legal.
So basically even if I am anti-homosexual. I can still not be for legalizing gay marriage? Tell me who these people are because they don't exist from my point of view.
So the US government is a bigot just like you are for agreeing with them?
Not a lot, maybe fascism, but other than that radicalness isn't a competition
What is the radical left wing position?
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@dustryder
Short answer no he doesn't because muh they are not the Religion I was indoctrinated into muh special pleading fallacy.
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@Vader
You are literally the stupidest person on this site if you think Christianity was the root cause for slavery and the bible supported slavery.
You literally can't even read my arguments. You think I blame Christianity for slavery. No I don't I blame the Bible for making it permissible. There is a difference. You sure your small little brain can comprehend that? Are you feelings hurt that you can't actually amount a defense for the Religion you hold dear instead resort to insults like the child you are? I would feel sorry for you but no where here have you made clear your ignorance instead defended viewpoints as if you are even capable of doing so. If it wasn't clear already you are too stupid to defend them. I doubt even when you get to my age you still won't get how you are wrong or how to formulate a good argument. Indoctrination really fucks people up. Your a clear example of that.
All omar has shown himself is a classic liberal who whine and bitch and wants to start a political holocaust against people who don't support their shitty movement
The cuckservative bends over to get fucked by his imaginary friends lectures me? Lol.
If religion didn't do anything for you, sorry. Just because you were not spiritually gifted enough to see the effects of religion does not give you the right to take it away from believers
Religion is awful. It is a bane to society and should be removed from society. There will still be dumb people like you but there can't use the excuse muh freedom of Religion or you can't prove it doesn't exist.
Being gay is not a sin, but it is not condone or approved by the church.
Lol. I am not actually for murder but don't say don't do it.
That does not mean that they are subject to hate. They are subject to the same love that everyone is. You connect the bible to literal terms because liberals can't dive into a bible and interpret its deep meaning
Christianity is a Religion of hate masqueraded in lies. They say love they neighbor but on the other hand don't care about immigrants, like war while also using God as their reason to carry out atrocities.
While some people are awful in their acts, a couple of dumbass rednecks should not define every Christian
Couple do not represent the many in a movement. If you said this I would actually agree but you stated a falsity. Christians who follow the Bible can't make an argument against slavery, against anti-homosexuality or against women subjugation.
Preach your morality to people dumb enough to fall for it.
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