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It’s getting harder and harder to be middle class in America
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@YouFound_Lxam
I think YouFound Lxam is referring to taxes which make things more expensive for people.  Is this correct Lxam?
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Why religious people don’t make sense to me
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@Melcharaz
scripture tells us in james that there is no evil in being rich.
Where does it say that?

God commands the rich to not love money, otherwise it is evil.
The way to not love money is to give it all away, right?  I love my assets, so that’s why I don’t want to give them away.

Jesus only told 1 person to sell all he had, the rich young ruler.
Wouldn’t that be a commandment for everyone?
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Why religious people don’t make sense to me
Let’s say you had to pick between getting $1 right now and getting $1 million a day for the rest of your life in 80 years (assuming you live that long and never die).  Most people would pick the 2nd option because people think in the long term.

Now let’s say I ask you,

“What do you value more, 70 years of living a middle class life in earth and going to heaven and not getting much reward, or giving away all your wealth because Jesus tells you too and getting to go to an eternal heaven with significantly more reward than being middle class for 70 years because the reward is more intense than being a billionaire and the reward lasts for an eternity whereas you being a billionaire does not?”

If you were being logically consistent, you would claim the eternal reward is better than the earthly reward.  But if you REALLY believe that, you would agree to sell all you have and give the money to the poor so you can maximize the eternal salvation’s reward.

Since most Christians don’t live this (the priests do, so credit to them for sticking to their values) but since most Christians don’t, should I call their bluff?

This is one reason why I don’t want to be religious.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Anyways, this definition, while interesting, wouldn't properly define it, because biological women can surgically get a penis, and it works the same. 

So biological woman would have penises too.
Biological women that get dicks would be classified as men because they would have transitioned.
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@RationalMadman
The biggest problem of that definition is then it means we need to see one's genitalia to determine if they are a woman, not take their word for it.
You can take their word for if they have a dick or not.  People aren’t going to lie about it.
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@RationalMadman
That does not answer his question without being transphobic to any who have not done a surgery.
If your definition of transphobic is broad enough to encompass the majority of the US population, there is nothing wrong with being transphobic.

If a male has an accident and loses his penis he would be a woman under your definition, an underage girl would also be a woman under your definition.
But it’s not like there are media recorded instances of guys losing their dicks without a surgery, so you wouldn’t need a definition.  I can modify the definition of woman to be, “Any adult with no dick.”
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The definition of a woman is someone without a dick and the definition of a man is someone with a dick?  I think that answers Matt Walsh’s question.

But let me know what you guys think.  Whether you agree or disagree, let me know. I don’t block.  Free speech!
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Elon Musk donates almost $2bn of Tesla shares to charity
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@Best.Korea
I’m glad Musk donated.  However, I believe that most billionaires will donate most of their wealth to charity (many don’t have kids and the ones who do usually don’t give their kids all of their inheritance) when they die and they are building wealth while alive so they are able to give more later.
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Why the whole situation in Israel doesn’t make any sense to me
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@FLRW
The Dynamic Human, that humans really aren't much smarter than other creatures -- and that some animals may actually be brighter than we are.
What does that have to do with the topic at hand?  And if it’s true, society should be vegan.  A mandate to be vegan would be akin to the mandate not to eat humans, but scientists don’t really think things through.
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@Melcharaz
In what way do you think they are seperate?
Chromosomes.  Transwomen have a Y chromosome and ciswomen don’t.
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@Melcharaz
or do you simply reject the idea that trans women and cis women are seperate?
I think transwomen and cis women are seperate.
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@Greyparrot
The US broke treaties with the natives, but it’s not like the natives can claim back the land; pure native Americans are a minority in every county I think (or virtually all of them).  I also want America to stay big because I’m an American.
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@dustryder
US healthcare already costs trillions of dollars per year for worse outcomes than countries that spend comparatively less....
US healthcare is usually heavily subsidized by employers, making the cost for employees cheap.

And you didn’t address my healthcare plan.
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@IlDiavolo
but it's quite difficult to prove women's consent when laws are unfavourable to men thanks to radical feminism.
How so?  Few men are falsely convicted of rape.

There is right now a case of a brazilian footballers accused of rape by a spanish girl when both had sex while they were drunk.
If both parties are drunk, I don’t think it is rape.
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Why the whole situation in Israel doesn’t make any sense to me
There are 2 e options to solve Israel vs Palestine.  They are:

1) One state solution (it doesn’t matter if this state is Israel or Palestine).  In BOTH of these nations, Jewish people make up about half of the population and Muslims the other half.  The Muslims won’t be able to successfully prosecute the Jews in Israel because they make up half the country (and vice versa with the Muslims).
2) A 2 state solution.  The bigger Israel gets, the more Muslims will be inside Israel and the bigger Palestine gets, the more Jews would be in Palestine.  Exceptions apply, but this is the general rule.

So if you advocate Israel owning all of Palestine, rather then view someone who wants Israel eliminated as the enemy or even someone that disagrees with you on the issue, relieze you want the same thing, a one state solution where half the population is Jewish and the other half is Muslim.  It doesn’t matter if you call this country Israel or Palestine, the end result is the same.

And it doesn’t make sense why Israel would even exist.  If America accepted 300 million migrants from Latin America (let’s say they they are all fleeing prosecution for something) and they return the favor by breaking away and being their own independent country, that wouldn’t seem fair, would it?  If you are a refugee and a country lets you move there, you should become as integrated with your host country as you can be to prevent separatist movements.  I have no problem with immigrants (even if they are undocumented).  But we have room for BUT one flag and that is the American flag.  We have room for but one language and that is the English language.  And if any migrant wants their place in America joining another country or separating from America, then they should get deported.  A hyphenated American is an oxymoron.  Either one is fully an American or one does not belong in America.  If they don’t belong in America, they should get deported.  Most of the undocumented are NOT in this category, but the ones who favor the land they live on joining a foreign state should get deported.

So if you’re a Jewish refugee and you head to Palestine to escape Nazi prosecution, fine, you’re welcome.  Just don’t create a separatist movement from Palestinian land once you arrive.  If you’re a Jewish refugee and you want to come to America; you’re absolutely welcome here under the condition that you don’t try and create a country out of American land.  You will not (and should not) face any legal prosecution for being Jewish.  But you’re an American now.  Not a member of some Jewish country made from American land (I treat the Jews living in the Middle East the same way).  Don’t create separatist movements out of the countries that saved you from prosecution from foreign states.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Fair point.  I think my views on Transgenderism have changed because of this.
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@RationalMadman
in which society are they such a wealthy being? Which community did they benefit from? 
They got rich by making society better on a massive scale.  In order to be rich in Cuba, you have to be a politician.  A politician taxes and regulates; they reduce liberty.  In America, you get rich by being productive to other people.  Elon Musk got rich off of helping reduce climate change with electric cars.  Landlords get rich off of reducing homelessness.  Bill Gates gets rich off of making based technology.  To get rich in America, you have to expand liberty.

t to tax them for participating in the process and demanding them to balance out the scales.
My ideal tax code is outlined in operation get out of debt.  I can send you my ideal tax plan if you want.  
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@IlDiavolo
They can’t put their genitals inside a non consenting person.
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@dustryder
Improving just the US healthcare system would not involve doubling the US taxation rate.
Probably true, but nationalizing the health industry would cost trillions of dollars per year.  Here is my ideal health plan for the US:

Since the US government paid for the parents to be produced, the US government should buy back the patents.  Make healthcare profit free but not for free (if it costs $1 to make a unit of insulin, anyone that needs it should pay just $1 for it and the US government gets the money instead of the private sector who would charge $10 for it.  A different idea I would support are price ceilings for health products that don’t exceed 15% of the cost to make the drug.  If a company spends $10 making 100 units of a drug, they can’t charge more than $11.5 for 100 units of the drug.  Then you can have healthcare be cheap without nationalizing the industry.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Well do you want the actual definition of the word Dakota, or the deffinition of the two states of Dakota. 
Isn’t it the same thing?  The definition of the Dakotas are North Dakota and South Dakota.  There is the tribe Dakota, but that’s not the definition people think of when they think of the Dakotas.

It's the same thing as saying:
Define states for me.
I could name off all the states and it would be valid.
But if you were to ask me what is a state, then I would have to provide a more detailed deffinition.
That’s a good point.  I’ll have to think about it.
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@RationalMadman
Good way to make it so that the more honest and kind people perish while the evil and corrupt thrive.
The rich aren’t inherently evil and the poor aren’t inherently kind.  You are not entitled to someone else’s money that they earned.  It doesn’t matter if they are a millionaire, a billionaire, or a quintilionaire.
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@dustryder
Sure.. but it's foolish to say Americans are less healthy than swedes and the health costs are higher...... 
Americans are less healthy than the Sweeds.

In the 1960s, the US and the EU had comparable health costs as a percent of GDP despite Europe having UHC and America not having that.  But something BESIDES the healthcare system is responsible for both the US and the EU having higher healthcare bills; otherwise the EU would have always had significantly cheaper health bills.

Sweedon spends I think 16% of its bugdet on healthcare.  So maybe it’s not double the taxation, but if the US were to emulate Europe more, our taxes would be roughly doubled and the left wants the US to emulate Europe.


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@RationalMadman
I as an individual want a collective to help the others in that collective.
But you shouldn’t FORCE people to in a society pay for something that they don’t benefit from.  Have all the income redistribution be by donors that consent to it.
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@dustryder
But Americans are way less healthy than Sweeds which is why our health costs are higher.  We have more obesity, we have less regulations on food than the Sweeds.  This has made Sweeds live longer and have cheaper health bills, but it’s also led to Sweeds enjoying food less because less healthy food tends to taste better.  It’s also why a tourist that comes to America is 16x as likely to want to become an immigrant to America than a European equivalent.
You haven't demonstrated that taxes will double. Just because European taxes are double that of US taxes, does not mean that the US tax must necessarily double to implement UHC. Taxes are spent on multiple things, one of which is UHC.
What else does Europe spend more money on than the US.  The only thing I can think of is free college, but that’s a small part of government spending.
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Who thinks “Trannie” is a derogatory term?
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@Intelligence_06
You can complain about the use of a sweat.  But me calling someone the N word shouldn’t result in me getting beat up or fired.  Hunter Biden said the N word and nobody cares because his dad says Orange man bad.  If you’re a white democrat, you can say whatever you want.  If your a white republican, society won’t treat you the same.
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@dustryder
With the EU model of UHC, taxes double.  I do not believe the typical American spends the equivalent of their tax bill on healthcare.  Many people get employer subsidized health insurance, so they may only pay $150 a month.  With UHC, they won’t have to pay that $150 a month, but they are going to have to pay that additional $2000 a month in taxes to pay for other people’s healthcare.
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@RationalMadman
Would you argue it is scum to not adopt starving Somalians?  If so, do you adopt starving Somalians?  If not, then you are scum by your own standards.

One just has an obligation to not harm, not to help.
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@dustryder
How did you come to this conclusion that socialized medicine would require your taxes to be doubled?
Because European taxes are double taxes in the US and that nationalizing healthcare costs about $3 trillion in 2018 (roughly the federal budget that year)
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@Wylted
but a lot of people against socialized medicine don't believe more people would die in a free market. They in fact believe the opposite 
How can one believe that when ALL of the countries with UHC with per capita incomes similar to the US have a higher life expectancy?  My sole reason for opposing socialized medicine is I don’t want my taxes doubled to pay for other people’s stuff.
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@RationalMadman
No, you'll just be looked at as a scumbag and rightly so.
That would be like saying those that want low taxes are scumbags.  There is no difference between wanting the poor in hospitals to die and wanting low taxes (which means the poor are going to die in hospitals).
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@Wylted
@Sidewalker
You (Wylted) are accused of beastiality.  Is this accurate?
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@Sidewalker
It’s blocked on my phone and I don’t know ho to unblock it.
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@Best.Korea
"He would claim that it is what happened" is likely, but not needed. If there is no evidence against him, there is nothing he needs to say or explain.
If you’re being accused of statutory rape, you have to defend yourself.
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Biden got the Microchip and Science Act passed so America can be a leader in production again
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I dislike how Biden is treating my stocks, but I give him credit for bringing jobs back to America.  I’m not MAGA; I don’t have a party.
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@dustryder
In the UK, the first claim would be hate speech and the 2nd wouldn’t be, even though the end results are the same.
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@Sidewalker
I don’t think Wylted does beastiality.
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@Best.Korea
I believe in the option of evidence. I dont think anyone should be punished if there is no evidence of a crime. 
Evidence is the ideal, but what if the evidence has been out for years and nobody is even getting a trial.  When Derek Chavin killed someone, they gave him a trial (and it was quick).  Trump also needs a trial.  But they aren’t giving him a trial because if he is found guilty, it won’t matter how much he deserves it, enough in his base will start a revolution because they can’t accept defeat.
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@Wylted
No there isn't it was a photo at a party with about 1,000 guests and Everyone was taking photos with various celebrities just like you would do if you met them at a comicon. 
If this is what happens and you’re Trump and you’re innocent, you claim you were friends with Epstein until he was found guilty of sex trafficking.  You don’t claim you never knew the guy.  Trump lied because he is guilty.

You can look at flight logs to the island to see who his actual friends were.
Where can I find these logs to the island?
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@Wylted
I don't know if a 23 year old attending parties of highschool students many of which are 18 or 19 is proof of much
You don’t just do this if you’re a teacher.  You do it ONLY if you are trying to drug a student to have sex with them.
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@Best.Korea
This does not mean he did something wrong. If someone happens to come to a party, he could be there because he was invited and bothered to come.
If this was true, DeSantis would claim this is what happened.  But DeSantis didn’t claim this, so it’s probably didn’t happen like this.
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@Sidewalker
You forgot Matt Gaetz
I should have included him.  But he’s not running for president.

and if farm animals count, Wylted.
Wylted is not a farm animal and he’s not a rapist.
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DeSantis did what???
There is photographic evidence of Ron DeSantis attending parties while 23 with high schoolers that he taught.  It’s possible he had sex with these highschoolers.  If this is the case, he is a rapist and should have his head cut off for rape.  If Donald Trump is a rapist (there is photo evidence of him being friends with Epstein), he also needs his head cut off.  Rapists, murderers, and kidnappers all deserve a public beheading so taxpayers aren’t feeding them with a prison sentence.  This is no matter what political beliefs they have.

And there is something that I noticed.  The left thinks Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis are rapists and they hate them.  You know who the left also hates?  Mike Pence.  But nobody has made any rape accusations against Mike Pence.  So this leads me to believe that if your facing a rape accusation as a politician, it’s probably accurate.

This doesn’t mean we should assume you’re guilty, innocent until proven guilty.  But there are 3 options, and I will rank my ideal options:

1) Believe evidence.  There has to be evidence beyond a reasonable doubt because of the fifth amendment.  This requires a trial.  But since Trump has had these rape accusations for years and said, “Grab them by the pussy.  They let you do it.  I don’t even wait.”, the media focused on the wrong pet of that quote. They focused on, “Grab them by the pussy” when they should have focused on, “I don’t even wait”, implying he doesn’t wait for consent.  If he is freely and cheerfully admiring to not wait for consent, he is a rapist and should be put to death.  Unfortunately, Trump won’t get a trial because if he hasn’t gotten a trial by now, he’s not going to get one it seems and I think this will also be true of DeSantis.  So as much as I would like to believe evidence, it’s not pragmatic to because NOBODY IS GETTING A TRIAL.

2) Believe survivors.  They don’t have to be women, they can be men.  Whenever a man is a sexual assault victim (like with Matt Schlapp), NOBODY was saying we need evidence to believe he sexually assaulted.  If Matt Schlapp had sexually assaulted a woman, people would be demanding that she prove it.  The right believes survivors when the accused rapist is Bill Clinton (it’s why they say that Clinton is a rapist).  But when the accused rapist is Trump, they claim he’s innocent.

3) Believe accused perpetrators.  This is my least favorite option.

So I would LIKE to believe evidence and trials consistently,  it since they almost never show up for rape cases, I have to believe survivors since I think that’s more pragmatic to do than to believe the accused perpetrators.

But let me know what you guys think.  Whether you believe, “Underdog, you’re wrong on this.” or, “Underdog , you bring a good point.”.  I don’t block.
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@FLRW
Bernie Sanders wants to tax the rich to pay for healthcare for everyone.
You would have to double the taxes on EVERYONE to pay for UHC.  Europe achieved UHC, but only after taxing the lowest income bracket 40% of their income and by having an expensive VAT.  America doesn’t have these taxes that affect the poor.  And nationalizing the healthcare industry doesn’t make sense when the vast majority of people get healthcare through their parents or their employer.

Remember that the last intelligent republican President (Eisenhower) had a tax rate of 92 percent on the rich.
If he’s a Republican that favors high taxes on the rich, fair enough, I respect that.  But what issue(s) made him a Republican?  If he was bad for the stock market, I wouldn’t like him because I invested a lot in stock.
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@RationalMadman
Maybe that’s just my Connecticut accent.  We pronounce a lot of our Ts like Ds.
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@RationalMadman
I suppose so.  But as someone with a mental disability, you can call me retarted, handicapped, disabled, and I wouldn’t get offended.  You can get offended, but I wouldn’t be.
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@Wylted
I thought it’s what they actually believe.  I don’t deliberately strawman.
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Claim 1: Anybody who is without health insurance and is in the hospital should die because I don’t want my tax dollars taking care of them.

Claim 2: I want lower taxes, and if that means some people die from lack of Medicaid, so be it.

If both claim 1 and claim 2 are implemented, the result will be the same.  Why is one considered hate speech while the other is free speech according to the Bernie Sanders crowd?  Either they are BOTH hate speech or none of them are.
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@YouFound_Lxam
You are defining a woman as anyone who is a cis woman or trans woman. 
You can't use the same word you are trying to define as a definition. 
It’s like defining the Dakotas as North Dakota and South Dakota.

How is:
A Biological Adult Human Female, not good?
Define a female.
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@Wylted
Tranny - a term transexuals made as a shorthand way to describe themselves
Trans is the shorthand term.

Retardes- a medical term for mentally challenged

This USED to be true.  But now handicapped is the term that is used.
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The Wage Gap is Non-existent
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@RationalMadman
almost everything is cheaper there than US.
I don’t think this is true, although I’ve never been to Europe.  VAT and income tax made things expensive in Europe, so many Europeans come to America for a better life.  They are welcome here, but don’t turn this place into the high tax strict gun control place you fled (I also believe that any African immigrant that flees strict abortion laws should not bring pro life views to America).
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