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@YouFound_Lxam
Yea, but you can't link DNA to anyone who you don't have any U.S. records of. 
Most Americans don’t give their DNA to the state but the police still know who did certain crimes.  Law enforcement knows how to hunt down murderers and rapists.

And it's not likely that immigrants would do this, but drug cartels would.
So go after the drug cartels,  not the undocumented, who probably have nothing to do with drug cartels.

Again, you can't link DNA to someone who doesn't have any American records. 
American records usually don’t contain any DNA.  There have been plenty of undocumented immigrants arrested for murder or rape (and they should get killed for THAT crime, but their documentation status should have nothing to do with it.)

Our solutions to our problems should be to live with our problems.
We should fix our problems by going after the root causes (fetanyl dealers) and not side effects(more undocumented immigrants).

We shouldn't have to have a job where people go after and chase fentanyl dealers in our country. We should get rid of it entirely.
Are you saying “Abolish ICE”?  You were calling for there not being a job where we get rid of fetanyl.  But we already have jobs where people get rid of the undocumented.  I’m merely advocating that ICE go after fetanyl and not the undocumented if the undocumented have nothing to do with fetanyl.

Make it illegal, except in certain medical treatments, that are approved and monitored by doctors.
I agree with banning recreational fetanyl.

When you have about 1 million - 2 million people coming over the border every year, then you probably should worry about that.
I wouldn’t worry about it.  I’d welcome the extra taxpayers into the country to boost GDP and to make it easier to pay off the debt.

Again, most of immigrants are nice, but we can't just assume they all are. Cartels still exist, and bad people exist, we can't just forget about them.
Probably over 95% of undocumented immigrants have nothing to do with fetanyl.  Our immigration policy should keep the cartels out and let everyone else in.  If a cartel comes to America, they get killed, making them less likely to come here.

Ever heard of a state called Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, or Arizona?
Even Canadian borders, like Idaho, Montana, North Dakota.

These are all red states.
I said COUNTIES that border Mexico tend to vote blue.  Texas is a red state, but the counties that border Mexico that Texas owns are blue.  Arizona is a purple state and its border counties vote blue.  Border counties that border Canada don’t have many undocumented immigrants.  Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama aren’t border states, so they have no border counties.

In general, counties that border Mexico vote blue because they have expierienced the undocumented first hand and they can confirm they aren’t a threat.  This is even if the county is rural.
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@Greyparrot
The comment won’t get 8 likes or more within 24 hours of this comment.  I’m calling it.  I am surprised it got 2.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Legal reasons:
Right to vote
Investigation of homicides
Law enforcement identification
You can live in the country without having the right to vote.  If an undocumented immigrant murders, they deserve something a lot tougher than deportation (they deserve their heads cut off).  But given the vast majority of undocumented immigrants don’t murder, this is not a realistic assessment.  Law enforcement uses DNA and cameras, if ANYONE commits a victim producing crime in America, law enforcement finds out and there is prosecution.

Health Reasons:
Doctors and medical workers won't be able to access your medical history if you don't have any identification in this country.
You can have health DNA on file and still not be documented with the federal government.  This doesn’t justify deportation.

Also, drug empires as well.
You obviously don’t want fetonal in the country, but the solution is to replace ICE with FCE (Fetonal Control and Enforcement).  Their job is to go after fetanyl dealers while leaving the undocumented that have nothing to do with fetonal (the majority) alone.

Yes, but again people aren't always nice.
A person should use a shotgun to protect their property, but precautions should be in place in order for a homeowner to not have to do that.
It's the last line of defense. Not the first line.
I don’t think you have to worry about the undocumented breaking into people’s homes on a large scale.  Otherwise border counties would lean red.  But they are some of the bluest rural counties in the country.  This is often because they expierienced the undocumented first hand and they can confirm the undocumented aren’t a threat.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Imagine how many likes he would get if he mentioned Democrats drink the blood of children in the basement of a pizza parlor.
Greyperrot should say this to see how many likes it gets.  Tag Roosevelt and myself.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
What are you basing those numbers on? I suspect they come from your imagination.
Maybe I was exaggerating, but if there are 60 million kids in the country, a lot of them might think they are trans when they aren’t.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Do you believe minors should get transgender treatment?  And are you aware that tens of millions of kids would get treatment only for them to regret it when they are older if you tell kids they could be trans.
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@Greyparrot
Your comment got 8 likes(including one from me).  I think that’s a record.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
I think we all know if California wanted to break away from the US when Trump was president, many people would support it, possibly yourself included.

 Now I’m consistently against separatist movements in the US, whether they be left, right, or minority.  I call them all out equally.
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@TWS1405_2
Not all conservatives are pro-life, in the strictest sense. I am a conservative, and I am both pro-choice and pro-life. The differentiation is fetal viability. Anything before, abortion is fine. Anything after, abortion is not okay.
This is mainly a pro choice position.  Your an independent, a conservative wants to ban at least 50% of abortions.
Non Sequitur, irrelevant, nonsensical.
Walker is a hypocrite.

And? We do. It has had a devastating effect upon minorities.
So you’re a “conservative” that is pro choice for 99% of abortions and wants welfare.  You’re an independent, and I think being an independent is good.  But own it.

Wrong. They vote Democrat.
Some do.  But rural America is often on welfare and they vote Republican.

The rest of your post is pure drivel.
I'd even call it trolling.
This is pure BS!
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@ludofl3x
But the minute you're recognized for posting the N word on your Twitter feed, then you've created a potential problem for the business, and the fastest solution is to fire you. 
I think this would ONLY be a problem if:

1) Millions of people saw me using the N word
2) Millions of people know I work for this company.

The number of people that will ever view this comment is less than 1 million.  Same is true for over 99% of comments.




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@ludofl3x
but if a company's management thinks you're damaging their ability to make money, they can and absolutely should fire you.
True, but just being pro life or pro choice (if you post politics in your spare time) shouldn’t get you fired.  Opinions (unless your wearing them) don’t make the company unprofitable.  I don’t talk politics with customers, even if they pressure me.

Do you get discriminated against based on this today?
I don’t, but I’m worried it might happen in the future, even if I don’t mention my views at work.  Companies are turning me down for internships despite my 3.2 GPA.

I don’t think I would have even become political if it weren’t for Trump running.  I’m been addicted to politics since then.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Really........

In order to be part of a group, that group has to accept you first.

Many reasons, for legal reasons, safety reasons, and health reasons. 
When that group is a group of friends, that’s true.  When that group of people is an entire country, I don’t see the point in excluding anyone.

Can you be specific with the legal reasons, safety reasons, and health reasons?

Houses can be broken into, and houses are not countries.
The vast majority of the undocumented don’t break into houses where they are not welcome.  But if they break into an owner’s home without his consent, the owner should get a shotgun and protect his property.
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@ludofl3x
Do they not have the same right to their opinion as a pro-lifer?
They can be pro choice; they shouldn’t be allowed to fire someone for being pro life.

I'm not sure this has ever actually happened, nor am I sure it falls under the "politically incorrect" umbrella (which to me means saying things like "black" instead of african american).
Black and African American are interchangeable from my experience.

I mean unless you put it on your resume, companies can't know. Unless, of course, you post it all over your social media.
I haven’t said the N word on the internet to the best of my knowledge, but Ive said things on the internet that companies probably discriminate against me for.  Things like my political views on issues where huge numbers of people disagree.
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@ludofl3x
Is there an example of such a thing happening? I don't think anyone would qualify pro choice or pro life as politically incorrect, though.
People would classify being pro life as being worthy of being fired.

Still, a private company has the right to fire you and not hire you back over it, I'm sorry, that's just the land of the free.
Freedom for corporations, but not freedom for we the people.

I have worked with two people fired for saying the N word. Both have jobs today. I don't think this is a real problem.
How do you know if they have jobs today?  Who is going to hire an adult white person if they said the N word while an adult?
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@YouFound_Lxam
If you want to live in the USA, you have to be a citizen of the USA. And in order to be a citizen of the USA, you have to have U.S. documentation. 

If we didn't have documentation for immigrants, and people who don't have citizenship, then why not just have open borders?
Why should one need to be a citizen to live in the USA?  I don’t see the point in forcing people to pay thousands of dollars just for the government to leave you alone.  The immigrant tax is a tax and both this tax and the income tax are theft.

I don’t see the issue with open borders for the households that want it.  If you don’t know anyone that’s undocumented, you wouldn’t want them in your house; that’s fine.  But if you have a parent that’s undocumented and don’t want to be raised by a single mother (family values), you are going to want your undocumented father in the house.

My rule is I only let rent payers in my house once I become a landlord.  It doesn’t matter their documentation status.

One way to reduce the single motherhood rate is to not separate undocumented families.  Some people say Black Lives Matter.  Some people say All lives matter or black fathers matter.  I would say All Fathers matter.
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@Intelligence_06
China censors and they are communist.  Same with Cuba.  The USSR didn’t censor nearly as much, so they ended their communism.

So how should I expect your commentary on conservatives and even democrats objective?
No human can be objective, including myself.  We all have our own biases.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Look at his hands. Those are very veiny masculine hands.
Define masculine hands.  I’ve met girls with bigger hands than me and I’m a guy (I still have a 6ft personality).  I think hand size has more to do with your height; I’m pretty short.  My mom has veiny hands.  She’s cis.

Look at the body type. His body type is very masculine.
How so?  They look small and thin.

I can put on fake fox ears, and a fox tail, but that doesn't make me a fox.
Furries are distinguishable to foxes.  Not every transwomen is distinguishable to a cis female.
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@YouFound_Lxam
I won't defend Elon Musk. He should of been documented. Now he is.
We can't change the past. I don't see how this is a point.
When he was undocumented, would you have deported him?  If the answer is yes, he would have never been able to buy Twitter and protect free speech.

You didn’t answer the question: What is the point of kicking out undocumented immigrants?  Your claim with the unborn baby sort of makes sense, but you would either have to deport a citizen or keep a non citizen here with pregnancy.
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@ludofl3x
because this "politically incorrect" fear is a little nebulous. Like let's say I'm at my job and I call a colleague a racial slur, should I be able to be fired? 
Let’s say hypothetically you get fired for saying the N word to your colleague.  What place is going to hire you?  No place would hire you.  Then taxpayers have to pay for your welfare for the rest of their life.  I as a taxpayer don’t want to do that.

What's something you think is politically incorrect that might get you fired?
If I post something pro life on the internet and my female boss has had an abortion and is super left wing, so she fires me over what I posted.  Nobody should get fired for being pro life or pro choice.
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@Greyparrot
Covid lockdowns, Deficit spending, Military spending.
You’re a libetarian; libetarians have many disagreements and aggrements with Trump and I respect them for that.  But I don’t think the MAGA base can state areas where they disagree with Trump.
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@Greyparrot
maybe Walker lost because a lot of Republicans stayed home, and Walker only got the independent vote.
Doubt it; not that many independents in Georgia.  Independents went with Warnock because the independents looked at Walker as a stupid hypocrite fuck boy who would rather be a werewolf than a vampire and they looked at Warnock as a smart politician.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Glad we agree on most of the points.

But when it comes to documentation, I belive at the minimum, every American citizen must have documentation, to prove they are American citizens.
What’s the point of FORCING people to be documented?  Elon Musk was undocumented for the longest time, and if he wasn’t deported, he would never be able to buy Twitter and protect ma FREE SPEECH from the socialists that previously ran Twitter.

If anyone who is living in America is not an American citizen, then they shouldn't be living in America, because if you live in America you are an American citizen, therefore you must have documentation proving you are an American citizen.
What’s the point of excluding the undocumented?  The unborn don’t have American citizenship either, but I wouldn’t kick them out of the country over it (or abort them either).
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@Athias
If someone gets denied a job for any of the characteristics you support the right to fire someone for, you have to pay for their welfare. We should make it as easy as possible for people to get jobs to minimize the welfare state.

If a company wants to force their unvaccinated employees to test or wear masks, that’s fine.  But don’t fire them.
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@YouFound_Lxam
It’s a deep voice for a woman, but some cis women have deeper voices than others.  Occasionally I hear a masculine voice, but it’s rare and some females I met have comparable voices.
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@YouFound_Lxam
So when you say the conservative movement, what your really saying is I don't respect the conservatives who contradict what they preach.
You can't disagree with a whole movement because a couple of people are incompetent in that movement, but you still agree with the basic values. 
Most of the conservative movement supports hypocrites that call themselves republican.  Walker almost beat Warnock.  Moore almost beat Jones.

 This is why I like Trump, because he says things no one expects him to, and speaks his mind.
I think you like Trump because he agrees with you on policy.  If Trump said something nobody expected to and spoke his mind (if he advocated abolishing ICE or legalizing late term abortion), most of his base would abandon him.  This is because they would disagree with the things he said, not because of the predictability of what he says or him speaking his mind.  Now if he said right wing things in addition to that, maybe the base would forgive him.  But if Trump was a democrat that spoke his mind, his current base wouldn’t support them because to them, it’s about policy.

Trump DOES think for himself.  He backed many left wing ideas.  But most of his base just believes certain ideas because Trump said them.  Can you name one disagreement on policy you have with Trump?


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If you fired every unvaccinated person from their job, the unemployment rate would skyrocket.  It’s not worth raising the unemployment rate to 8% from 3% over a vaccine mandate.  I don’t want to pay for the unvaccinated people’s welfare.

I don’t think a company should be allowed to fire you for ANY of the following reasons:
1) Your unvaccinated
2) Your LGBT
3) You post politically incorrect things on the internet (or if your super woke; I don’t want AOC supporters fired from their jobs).
4) You are undocumented.
5) Your race, religion, or gender

We need to make it easier to get jobs to minimize the welfare state.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Even though there are multiple left wingers on this site, just by reading the title, I KNEW Roosevelt man made this thread.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Not necessarily. You can even hear the masculine sound in his voice, and other traits that he has, that shows he has a lot of biological male character traits. 
YOU can hear the voice being masculine.  But I can’t.  It’s high pitched.

Again, this does not refute what I said. He is a Trans-woman, not a woman.
That’s fair.

The rest of it was good points and repetition.
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@YouFound_Lxam
For example, I know a lot of conservatives who make exceptions for abortions in the case of rape, and incest. 
I know a lot of conservatives who are pro-gay marriage.
The issue is when pro life conservatives (who think abortion is murder), vote for a guy who is the father of an aborted baby (but he says pro life things).  If you want to vote for a Republican that’s married to a guy, I have no issue with that.  If you want to vote for a Republican candidate who is married to a guy and wants gay marraige banned for other people, I do have an issue with that.  Matt Schlapp’s anti gay comments that were followed by him sexually assaulting a man.  Now if he wasn’t married to someone else, if he was fine with others doing it, and if it was consensual, I wouldn’t have an issue with it.  But it’s none of these, so it’s hypocritical.

When someone says that they are a conservative, that doesn't mean that all of their thinking has to line up with a strict guideline.
If you don’t look at issues through a partisan lens, you’re an independent.  Most Americans are independents by this definition.  But most of our politicians aren’t; they just say what the base wants to hear instead of coming to their own conclusions.
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@Intelligence_06
Communism is a terrible ideology that relies on massive government theft and censorship.
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This is what the conservatives have become:

Conservatives: We are pro life.  I think they are more right here since I think there should be a punishment for abortion.  But the penalty should be a lifetime 10% sales tax on anything bought for the rest of their life, but the sole person who ensures the tax is the father of the aborted baby.  Any parent of an aborted baby should be barred from public office unless the pregnancy was conceived through rape, there are fetal defects, or is a threat to the life of the mother.
Reality: Herschel Walker paid for an abortion.  But he denies it but still calls himself a Republican.

Conservatives: We will vote for him.  He is on our team.

Conservatives: Child rape must be punished with death.  I think they are right here; I don’t want my tax dollars feeding them.  They beloved this in 2008, and a majority of the American population supports the death penalty for rape I think (I’m not sure, but this is out of my experience)
Reality: Roy Moore is a child rapist.
Conservatives: We will vote for him because he’s a republican.  Alabama’s governor would support him even if he was a child rapist because all she cares about is the party of the politician.

Conservatives: We need to cut welfare.  I shouldn’t pay for my neighbor’s bills.  I think every person that uses government assistance should be required to have a government job so society gets improved for those living off of taxpayers.  Exceptions are for those with bad disabilities, but if you have kids, you should not be allowed to live on welfare.

Reality: Many welfare recipients vote Republican.  Not all.  Maybe not even the majority, but many.  They often have more kids than what they can afford to raise, like what happens in Kiryas Joel.  This not an insult to all people living there, but the able bodied people living anywhere in the US should be required to get off of government funds or get a government job within a year.  After that, the welfare state is virtually eliminated.  I would rather have blue voters on welfare than red voters because blue voters that are on welfare don’t vote against their economic interests.  With few exceptions, I criticize EVERYONE on welfare, whether they vote blue or red.

Conservatives: Never criticize their own voters for living on welfare.

Conservatives: We don’t like identity politics.  I agree with them here; I ignore race, gender, sexual orientation, gender expression and even documentation status.  I see it (everyone does), but I ignore it.

Reality: Donald Trump appoints someone to the Supreme Court just because she’s a woman.  Fox News ends up praising minority conservatives like Nicci Haley for being minority female conservatives when their ethnic background or gender shouldn’t matter.  They point to Dave Rubin as “one of the good ones”, but they should “IGNORE” his gayness.

Conservatives: They have tokens just like the left.
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@RationalMadman
If a woman wears a strapon or uses a dildo, she is still a woman but she 'has' a dick on her person then, yes?

When a woman is fucked is she a man while the dick is inside her?
The dick isn’t connected to her in either situation.  So I don’t think it counts.
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@YouFound_Lxam
What makes a penis though?
If something that looks like a penis, can be classified as a penis, then you are going to have to go in nature, and classify a lot of things as penises. 
I’m no biology expert, but my guess would be a cinder piece of cartilage that is surrounded by a cylinder piece of flesh that is near the middle of the body.

He has the title of a trans woman, which in turn implies that he is not just a normal woman.
But if you had no idea Lux was trans, you would think Lux is a woman.

He is admitting being a biological man.
Lux is a biological man, but society should treat them as a female because I can’t tell Lux apart from a generic cis female.

But according to you, women have vaginas so they couldn't be a woman either so......what are they.
Isn’t a vagina just a hole?  And I heard gender surgeries inverted the dick.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Good point.
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@Lemming
By that logic,
Does it follow people should pursue the quickest path to wealth, then retire?

If you don’t care about money and value all work as equal, that makes sense.  But most people do value money and would perfer certain jobs to others per hour of work.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Surgery for women who want a penis. Those penises won't work the same as a biological mans would. 
Surgery for men who want a vagina. You still have to work at it every week to keep the wound/vagina open.
You couldn’t reproduce with the penis, but it’s still a penis so we can classify gender based on genitalia.

If a guy gets his penis cut off, then for that small amount of time that he doesn't have a penis, (even if he doesn't identify as one) he is a woman?
I would make that argument.  It’s a better argument to make than claiming this person is a man:

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@RationalMadman
The person you linked me too should get a dick and transition to be a man.  In the meantime, they should be classified as female until they get a dick.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Heaven doesn't have a ranking system.
The Bible says stuff about getting treasure in heaven, attained only by selling all you have and giving it to the poor.  If you perfer the heavenly treasure and believe God is real, you would act on it and sell all you have and give to the poor for the heavenly treasure.
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@YouFound_Lxam
Division is not something we should be promoting, and instead we should be uniting as one nation, under the basic believe and right that we all hold dear. Freedom.
Libetarians hold freedom dear; liberals and conservatives do not.
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@YouFound_Lxam
So, in order to identify as transgender, you have to get a surgery done?
What about the people who identify as transgender, but don't have the surgery?
They didn’t transition, so they are not transgender.

And also, you would have to exclude any man who might have had an accident with his penis, like it gets cut off.
There is not a single male out there that had their penis cut off against their will.  And if this is the case, they are going to get a surgery to recover their penis.  Once they retransition, they are men again.
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@Melcharaz
the Love of money is the root of all evil. not being rich. 
If you are rich, you love money.  I am rich for my generation.  I love money.  I’m not giving it to other people even if it means the difference between life and death for them.  Most people (including yourself probably) are the same way.

otherwise God would be a hypocrite in verses 17-19
It wouldn’t be the first time God is a hypocrite. God says to not kill people you know are innocent, and he killed all the children in Egypt over something their ruler did.  If the excuse is, “they go to heaven”, that can apply to any murder case.  I could buy a gun, shoot a priest (I would never do that), claim I sent him to heaven, and if you think it’s okay for God to murder people if they go to heaven, you can say the same thing about me in this instance.
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@YouFound_Lxam
But there is not a ranking system, because with a ranking system comes sin in multiple ways. 
How?
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@IwantRooseveltagain
How much is reperations going to cost then?
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@Melcharaz
1 timothy 6:9-10.
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Don’t be silly. I doubt it would amount to 1 years military budget.
BLM wants reperations for 400 years of slavery with interest.  This is going to cost hundreds of trillions of dollars.
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@Tradesecret
Interestingly, I think most people, non-religious people, don't think in the long term but in the short term.
Possible, but I plan for the long term.  I also don’t want to give away me wealth and most Christians that plan for the long term don’t want to either.
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@ludofl3x
I just want to understand, you don't want to be religious because most people don't get rid of all their stuff and live a poor life as laid out in one of the gospels or because you think that many religious people are inherently hypocritical? 

What do you mean, "call their bluff"? 

I don’t want to be religious because I don’t want to give away all my possessions.  I don’t think most people are that religious either otherwise they would give all their assets to the poor.  It’s not hypocrisy, it’s just not being a true Christian (which I’m not knocking, but I have to acknowledge).
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@Melcharaz
The Bible verse you showed states that being rich is evil.  I’m not giving all of money if I were rich and I wouldn’t expect you to either.
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Why not open borders?
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@PREZ-HILTON
Good point.  I haven’t thought of that.

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Racism made it hard for Japanese-Americans to build wealth.
Nobody should be getting reperations that are going to cost hundreds of trillions of dollars for taxpayers.  That’s how much you would logically have to pay black people for 400 years of slavery (with interest).  Reperation supporters don’t really think things through.
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