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@Polytheist-Witch
The idea that women should not have sex until they're ready to have a child is the most misogynist thing I could ever hear anyone say. Especially when they don't hold men to the same standard.
Men and women shouldn't have sex until they are ready for a child and I say this about men more because men are sluts and this is bad.
Any man that doesn't like the idea of a woman having an abortion or doesn't like the idea of having to pay for a child cuz they don't want to be a parent should get a reversible vasectomy.
I'll get one soon enough. I'm in college now, so not yet.
People always tell the women not to put out that's the solution like somehow that's even reasonable like somehow it's who are all these men going to have sex with if it's okay for them to have sex and not women.
It's immoral for EITHER gender to have sex outside of wanting a kid unless the male has a vasectomy.
And the religious right needs to stay out of that conversation because they're the ones that don't want the conversation or the side effects.
I do think that religion should stay out of abortion and priests should make secular cases against abortion if they want Roe V Wade overturned. This BTW also applies to Christian denominations that support Roe V Wade because of the bible. Religion should have nothing to do with abortion.
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@3RU7AL
It's better if the female didn't get pregnant to begin with so she doesn't have to endure the pain from abortion or childbirth.
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@Stephen
Without air, we would die quicker.
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@Greyparrot
If the Overton window shifts, it means society changes it's viewpoint on a topic. The right does this from time to time and so does the left. Whether the Overton window shifts or not is irrelevant. The overton window shifted on homosexuality for instance and weed legalization. There society moved to the left, but soci9ety was fine with it.
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@FLRW
Not even those who advocate for banning abortion want forced parenthood as they tend to encourage setting the kid up for adoption.
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Feminists wanting abortion sounds a lot to me like an anti covid vaxxer demanding the right to be in pain from covid. Abortions are painful for those that endure them. The feminist would argue that it is less pain than unwanted pregnancies, but wouldn't it be ultimately less painful for the female if she never got pregnant and therefore never needed an abortion so she doesn't have to endure the pain from an unwanted pregnancy or an abortion?
To me saying, "I have the right to have premarital sex and get an abortion from it"(assuming a fetus isn't a human, I think a fetus is a human being, but this is a different issue), sounds a lot like saying, "I have the right to refuse a covid vaccinee and suffer from covid for several days because of it". This would mean it wouldn't be wise to abort and get pregnant even if there was only a zygote (which I don't consider to be human) inside the pregnant female due to the maternal pain associated with it.
So wouldn't it make sense for feminists to be opposed to premarital sex due to the possibility that females get pregnant from it and therefore having to endure one of 2 painful options; abortion of a zygote or unwanted pregnancy?
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@oromagi
but my stance is a lot more complicated then the political exigencies of the moment
How so?
If you really believe this and you want the GOP to lose in 2022, wouldn't you support repealing Roe V Wade to help the dems.I do, in fact.
With this statement, the woke mob like Theweakredge and Double_R cancelled you for hate speech towards women and minorities. Welcome to sane America; cancelled by the woke mob.
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@Polytheist-Witch
The left loves Bill Gates for helping the poor, so I don't know why you have a grudge against every billionaire when their businesses contributed significantly to society.
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@Lemming
If one reads about his private conversations and actions, one sees a very different individual.
Do you have any examples? And if they are private conversations, how were we able to record them?
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@Double_R
"Dont sensor Disney" is a cartoonishly ignorant way to characterize what we've been talking about. I suggest you read and respond to the actual points made if you'd like to have a serious conversation.
I read some of the posts, but there are hundreds of them in this thread, so do you really expect me to read all of them? Too hard.
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@zedvictor4
What about next week?.....As there's no guarantee that you will even make it beyond that.
I can say with reasonable certainty that I will be alive next week.
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@Double_R
Don't censor Disney. They get free speech to advocate for teaching drag queen story hour to 5 year olds even if that speech is horrible. But the right is cheering on the Florida man because they will do anything to own the libs.
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@Lemming
Hitler said, "By killing the Jews, I am only doing the Lord's work". No atheist says this.
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A well stoned populace, being helpful for the happiness of a free state, the right of the adults to keep and smoke weed shall not be infringed.
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A well lived populace, being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear life shall not be infringed.
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@oromagi
I'm thinking Republicans just lost 2022.
If you really believe this and you want the GOP to lose in 2022, wouldn't you support repealing Roe V Wade to help the dems.
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@Reece101
There are good and bad religious and atheist people.
Stalin was a bad atheist. Hitler was a bad Christain. Bill Gates is a decent atheist. MLK was a decent Christian.
Your religion has little correlation on whether or not your a good person.
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@zedvictor4
So are you a humanist?
No.
Or just a hermit that lives in a shack, who only ever invests..... And spends only the bare minimum in order to survive?
I don't live in a shack, but I'm closer to this than a humanist.
So what is the long term goal?......Given the brief amount of time we have on this planet.
Get rich, get powerful. If your religious (I'm not), try to do things that will help you go to heaven (note if this means giving to the poor, you need to keep it a secret). If your not religious, enjoy life on this planet. For me, that means getting rich just in case I need the money. I also want to doomsday prep just in case we have nuclear war. Either that, or I would kill myself if there was nuclear war because I don't want to be eaten alive.
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@bmdrocks21
I support making each country pay their fair share if they are going to take part in a military alliance.
What would you call the, "fair share"?
You'll also increase your need for defense spending.
No we won't.
Just check out Europe's new Muslim terrorist problem. They didn't have to worry about beheadings a few decades ago.
Extremely rare events aren't the need to spend bureaucratic waste on the military.
Do you think it is tyrannical to keep homeless people from coming into your house?
No, but if an undocumented immigrant rents out a house from a consenting landlord who sees it as a business opportunity , why should I care? Open borders is not the same as welcoming random people into your house. Nobody is being forced to take care of the undocumented even if America opened the borders. All that open borders means is an undocumented immigrant can rent out a house or apartment building from a consenting landlord free from government interference and without the fear of being deported.
A lot of people join the military to be able to afford advanced degrees. There aren't that many good paying jobs without a specialized degree.
This is incorrect. Many jobs pay very well and don't require a college degree. A college degree helps, but it is not a requirement for many jobs.
So our only defense will be threatening to nuke people? Hate to break it to you, but nukes aren't the best at everything.
It's worked with Russia. They have nukes, a GDP smaller than Texas and no country wants to invade them because they are worried about nuclear retaliation.
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@bmdrocks21
Could you kindly point out where I say that 2% for NATO is a good idea? I don't like the arbitrary amounts, but that is for preventing freeloading off of others' defense spending.
I thought you supported the 2% mark for NATO. My bad.
Now explain how 1% will keep us safe. What will we cut by going from $800 billion to $200 billion?
I support increasing the GDP of the US which would increase the GDP to high enough levels to make making the military budget 1% of the GDP a dollar increase due to an increase in GDP. This GDP increase can be obtained by letting any taxpayer into the country, thereby contributing to our GDP if the US government got out of the way and let people come here without government permits. Sic semper tyrannis.
Moreover, even if we don't get this, the US is in NATO, so it's 1% of our GDP plus the military budget of every country in NATO helping to keep the US safe.
Are we going to lay off hundreds of thousands of trained soldiers?
They have degrees and no PTSD yet. They can get civilian jobs with no problem.
Are we going to stop investing in military technology?
Given that we have thousands of nukes, no country will invade us, so I think we can spend less on military technology and be safe from invaders. We probably could spend nothing on the military except for nuke matience and no country would want to invade us because they would be worried about nuclear hellfire from our nukes. We can make a deal with Russia that we get rid of 3/4 of our nukes if they get rid of 3/4 of their nukes. This way, if nuclear war happens, it won't be as bad and both the US and Russia still have about 1500 nukes. We also agree that if any more nukes get developed by either country, then the other country can develop 1 more nuke per nuke developed by the other country. This, combined with the cost of dismantling and rebuilding nukes serves as an incentive for both countries to not produce any more nukes once 75% of their nukes get dismantled.
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@bmdrocks21
Why should it be some arbitrary number you just made up? Shouldn’t it be whatever is necessary to keep us safe, whether that be 5% or .5%?
Military spending by the NATO quotas are already an arbitrary proportion (2% of GDP). A 1% military budget would be enough to keep us safe.
No it’s not. Military spending is just a fraction of what is spent on entitlement programs.
Medicaid and the military budget cost a comparable amount for the US federal government. Both should be cut to 1% of the GDP and any poor person that needs health insurance can go to a church for help since the church consents and taxpayers don't.
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@zedvictor4
So you're a materialist, who only sees value in money and possessions?
I don't see myself as this. A materialist is someone that spends whatever money they have. I invest and I'm proudly addicted to investing.
Though humanists might see value in other aspects of society.
If all the humanists adopted a homeless person and sponsored a child in poverty, child poverty and homelessness would be gone.
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Have Joe Rogan moderate the debates. That guy is chill as shit with all the THC he has in his system.
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@bmdrocks21
The federal government is trillions in debt
This is largely due to the military industrial complex, which neocons support. Military spending should be 1% of the GDP of the US.
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@Polytheist-Witch
You basically support people being called pedophiles, comments being made about people's children in a pedophilic way and you support sexual comments made to the female members of the website.
Would I be a troll? I don't think I called anyone here a pedophile.
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@zedvictor4
And in your mind, what actually constitutes a "shithole".
A place with a high poverty rate.
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But this doesn't explain South Africa, which is a shithole despite having high taxes and legal abortion.
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I'd say Yankee America is pretty close to the EU (at least compared to how close it is to Africa).
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My math major has showed me some signs of a higher power like the following:
1) sin(x)=x-(x^3/3!)+(x^5/5!)-(x^7/7!)+(x^9/9!) ...
2) cos(x)=1-(x^2/2!)+(x^4/4!)-(x^6/6!)+(x^8/8!) ...
3) 4(1-(1/3)+(1/5)-(1/7)+(1/9)-(1/11)+)... = pi.
There's more, but I don't think this could all be by chance.
But when I converted to Christianity, their god initially told me to call him, "God". I did this and I got my prayers answered. Then he switched to, "Jehovah"(Jehovah's witnesses believe the exact same thing as standard Christianity except they call their God a different name(Jehovah)). That worked for a little bit, but then he insisted on changing his name again.
This led me to believe that religion is in my head.
So if I'm not religious nor atheist, there needs to be an alternate source of the universe's existence.
This leads me to be a simulationist. I think we are living on a planet that's in a universe that's in a computer simulation run by aliens and they sent math as proof of their existence. They invented all these religions as an experiment to see what would happen if they gave humanity many different religions. There are probably universes where there is only 1 religion and the aliens are collecting the data they are interested in. The aliens are curious so they experiment on us by presenting stimuli and seeing how we react to this. They are not all loving nor all powerful, they are just curious to see what happens when certain stimuli is produced .
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I've noticed that with few exceptions, the places with the lowest taxes, the least regulation, the highest amount of abortion restrictions (Africa, Latin America, rural Dixieland) are shitholes. Conversely, the places with the highest taxes, the most amount of regulation, and the easiest abortion laws (Yankee America, EU, Canada) aren't shitholes. I wonder what the conservative response to this would be.
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@zedvictor4
Just go for a prosthetic, and keep one the drawer next to your bed.....And you can also have a second in your handbag.
I already have a dick. I was just wondering if you could insert a female with a hormone and they grow a dick. Some hormone was responsible for that, just like some hormone is responsible for growing arms.
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@zedvictor4
Testosterone certainly causes men to do silly things.
If this is really what you believe and if you really think testosterone is bad, your free to get castrated to remove your testosterone. But I like the bigger muscles. But what hormone makes you grow a dick?
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@oromagi
Internet anonymity and poor nutrition are primarily responsible for the production of dicks.
Then how did dicks exist before the Internet? Also, what if you have a dick and your nutrition is good (like Dwayne the Rock Johnson)?
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I think trans men can take said hormone and grow a penis.
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@Double_R
That does not address the question. How does someone supporting Putin align them with the political left?
For the same reason that someone supporting DeSantis aligns the with the political right. Putin is left wing. He wants to spread Russia's suto-communist influence to other countries. He also opposes NATO, which is right wing and was formed to be an anti-communist bloc.
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@thett3
Macron wants UHC, gun control, supports speech codes, supports free college, is an open femenist, is agnostic, wants open borders and free healthcare for foreigners. He would be a lefty here in 'Murica.
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@Double_R
Because Russia was the core of the USSR and locations rarely change ideology. It's why Dixieland is more conservative than the rest of the country today; because that was the case 50 years ago.
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@Stephen
So you'll be happy to explain that to the relatives of all those little girls and young mothers blown to pieces at the Manchester Area bombing, will you.
Terrorist attacks aren't ideologies. People can believe and say whatever they want. I can advocate the death of Joe Biden. It only becomes a problem if I actually act on said belief.
However will you explain to Saffie Roussos's parents that the lovely young Muslim man Salman Abedi that blew their little 8 year old girl to bits had every right to practice his ideology which included blowing their little girl to pieces?
I don't know why your using extremely rare incidents; your more likely to get killed in a car crash than you are by a terrorist attack. Yet we aren't going to ban cars (just like we won't ban Muslims) because freedom is a tradeoff to saving lives, and authoritarian leftists and conservatives try to strip liberty for a false sense of safety.
I would argue it's an SJW move to judge the individual by the group identity. Wanting to ban Muslims because of a terrorist attack is like wanting to castrate men because some of them rape. Both ideas are equally ludicrious.
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@Stephen
How are they supposed to live and settle once they land on your shores and borders illegally and uninvited with nothing but a shirt on their backs?
They GET A JOB like everyone else.
where would you house them?
Let the undocumented figure out for themselves where they will be housed and who they would pay rent money too that they get from their job. People can sort themselves out without government interference.
How would you handle such a population explosion?
The government would do nothing and let the free market solve the problem because solving the housing problem would make them rich.
What jobs will they be allotted?
Whatever the market needs them to do free from government interference.
Where will their children go to school.
In the town that their landlords pay property tax in. The kids also might do homeschooling, which I entirely support.
What about medical assistance and medication
America doesn't have socialized medicine like the European countries.
And how do you propose I/we do that?
Just stop giving the hotels money to house the undocumented and the hotels would naturally kick the undocumented out.
Nope, it was the Blair / Brown government that did that making it clear that they had intentionally and purposefully would "rub their[our] noses in diversity"' .
List of political parties in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia states that the conservatives are the biggest party in the UK. They are responsible for this socialism. Racial diversity is irrelevant and I don't know why the globalists want it so badly. Let people come here, but don't give them government assistence.
I didn't ask you if you support it. I asked you - how much welfare is handed out to your illegals?
I'm unsure. The ideal amount is $0 (and anyone that disagrees can welcome a foreigner into their home and take care of them, I heard Londoners were willing to do that actually).
LETTING!? Have you read a single fkn thing I have wrote... at all ? I didn't let them, you absolute clown. It was forced on me/us.
I didn't say you let them in. I'm just saying what's wrong with letting them in if we cut off all government benefits going to them?
I wasn't asked and I didn't give my permission. I wouldn't have invited thousands young men of fighting age from Africa and the Middle East to come to my town and live bringing there warped cultures
Define "warped cultures".
ideologies
They can have any ideology they want; it's free speech. Grow a thick skin you snowflake.
prayer mats?
Worshipping Allah and praying to Mecca is a right that they are allowed to do. Don't worry, you don't have to copy them.
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@Stephen
Regardless. the law in this case prevents speeding and accidents
The law does this, but if you morally object to speeding, then don't speed.
It is. And getting worse since government allowed an imported a culture that isn't compatible with my own
Letting immigrants move into your town is not the same thing as socialist. The NHS is an example of a socialist program.
And allowed thousands of immigrants to enter the country illegally every fkn week from Africa and the Middle East and are putting up in £ 400 a night hotels and given £40-50 a week that "the productive " are paying for while the indigenous are queuing at food banks.
I support the undocumented being here; I do not support them living on government assistance. The UK should stop giving free hotels to foreigners. But the British conservatives did that. The US has no right wing.
How much welfare is handed out to your illegals?
I don't support giving welfare to the undocumented. I've heard they don't rely on welfare though. If they do, the appropriate thing is to eliminate the welfare and encourage them to be productive rather than deport them.
Britain attracts welfare recipients. America attracts productive people.
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@Greyparrot
That's why Democrats set them free. A cheap way to purchase a vote at the expense of society. Same with illegals.
How someone votes can't be used for or against them. This would be like mandating abortions for poor females because their kids are future democrat voters. Not even libertarians want to mandate abortion for the poor to prevent America from going left.
I'm unsure if I would let the undocumented vote, but them being a left-wing group can't be used as a reason for not letting them vote.
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@Stephen
All law isn't perfect. But it is the law.
Any law that can objectively be improved should be changed. Any circumstance that isn't harming anyone (with the burden of proof being high) ought to go unpunished, from being unvaccinated to being here without a license.
But waiting for an accident to happen instead of trying to prevent or reduce the probability of an accident by a drunked or drugged smack head tard has to be commended.Lest just hope that none of your own loved ones get killed by a twat tard going over the speed limit.
If you speed and are against speeding, your a hypocrite.
You are not one of the dozy bagheads that call themselves "Freeman on the Land" are you?
I'm not British; I have no idea what that is. I'm an American, a member of the greatest country god ever created. We are the only country with a libertarian spirit. The UK is a socialist hell hole with the UHC and free college that they force the productive to pay for. In the UK, it's conservatives are authoritarian and socialist. Our Rand Pauls and Chris Christies and Austin Petersen's believe in minimal government and maximum freedom. This is why America attracts the best whereas the UK attracts the welfare reciepiants.
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@Greyparrot
That's like saying Criminals should stop voting Democrat because more arrests are made as crime rises, when everyone knows Criminals get to run free in the country after a few days in jail and a pinky promise to never rob people again under the compassionate Democrats.
It makes sense for murderers to support democrats because republicans want them dead.
But people in jail shouldn't vote at all. I don't want to give a child rapist or a murderer the right to vote.
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@Stephen
It is criminal and unlawful for me to enter your country without permission.
It's criminal and unlawful to insult a horse. It's criminal and unlawful to cut hair without a license. It's also criminal and unlawful to speed 5 kph over the speed limit
Virtually every single right wing American law bootlicker (who demands others must comply with the law under the threat of it ruining their life) speeds and is hypocritical because they also break the law. Granted, there is no issue with breaking the law as long as you aren't harming anybody else. This applies to owning hundreds of AK 47s, being unvaccinated and unmasked in public, and coming into a country without permission. Bootlicking is unamerican.
If you aren't harming anyone else by breaking the law, who gives a fuck?
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@TheMorningsStar
On immigration, Obama was right wing. On immigration, America has the center right democrats and the far right republicans in terms of policy. Their rhetoric is different. But no matter who you vote for, you will get deportations of the undocumented. The undocumented should therefore stop supporting democrats.
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@Stephen
The term, "illegal" and "undocumented" are synonymous. Use whatever term you prefer.
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@Greyparrot
Contrary to popular belief, illegal invaders often have documentation saying who they are.
They aren't documented with the US government, which is why they are undocumented.
But whether or not they are documented should have no relevance to whether they get deported or not.
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@Dr.Franklin
Yes he does. Biden could open the borders for blue counties tomorrow and prohibit ICE agents from deporting people in blue counties by executive order. But he won't because he's right wing on social issues, even if he is left wing on the culture war.
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