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No, because you would have to prove that god is the truth, which you have not done.

Can confirm, doesn't matter if the fetus is a person, still ethical

A good deal

But also, no its not. Admitting that racism is a thing, and calling it racism is an everybody who's actually rational thing

You are the victim, also not illegal, but also the smoke can cause very bad conditions for anyone in the vicinity, so... bad in general

Indeed (also I win)

This is a non-sequitur, in the case that you KNOW for an absolute fact that a person would commit genocide, then yes it is absolutely right to never have that child. God apparently KNEW for an absolute fact, EVERYTHING. Beyond that, he was the one who made us unable to comprehend his reasoning, we are literally classically below him in intelligence, that means us being tempted or tricked is also his fault.

It doesn't matter. Free Will that is, because according to your own god we don't really "choose" anything. There is a set plan by god and everything will go according to that plan. The bible was the first source of determinism. Lmao

Except  I never claimed that, and if MisterChris did, I'm 95% sure you misunderstood his point, you seem to do that a lot. Also that fact doesn't support your argument, you have to do a lot of mental gymnastics to get even close to your positions and ignore a literal bible full of sources that say you're wrong.

No, you begged the question, its a formal fallacy where you presume your conclusion in your reasoning, premises, etc, you have what's called a "wild syllogism" just because something isn't presented in P1, P2, C, doesn't mean it isn't a syllogism.

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I stil wiiin

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Fair enough

but yes

The problem was even proving there were possibilities, which i don't think you did, but I guess.

Fair enough, I mean I disagree, but we'll leave that for the voters. It was a fun debate for me at least. And I'm glad you had a good day! No problem at all.

So my perspective is still intact? I'll consider that fun I suppose. And MisterChris no being a racist isn't a left-winged view, that's a non-racist view/ (Yes I'm using the word repeatedly on purpose)

Kinda? Whatever Im too tired to really engage in semantics, so yes. Semantics

Okay now I will have to tell you to shut up. I was a Christian for the first 14 years of my life, even then I recognized that was wrong. Also notice how you don't actually respond to my point? Because you have literally no idea how to.

Oooooh I see. 

This is satire. Of course it is. 

Forgive me for not noticing sooner I'm tired

MisterChris is very not progressive.

He's also 18

And I think straight? I have no idea.

I think its just using a meaning of atheist and semantically applying it

uuuh, that they can be? It depends on the factors of the individual 16 year old? I think anyways

Very interesting beginning story you have there.

Just your conversation with... who was it, I can't remember to be honest, about you saying that "If you think 16 year olds are children we are two different wave lengths" or something like that. I was just curious

I mean yeah.... thats what I said..... that the distinction is semantic at best..... you do know I agree with that quote right?

Nah, because if you believe in a "true god" then you are begging the question, which is a fallacy, your hidden argument behind your poorly structured word salad is amusing but not very compelling unless you already agree

Hmm, perhaps they are perhaps they aren't, it's not really a falsifiable thing. Maybe they are hiding some level of homosexual feeling or something without being homosexual? Idk, I'm tired. Um... putting more thought into it. I don't think the asserted side has enough evidence to support it, and really I was just pointing out that you tend to ignore sources and such. Which prove you wrong especially. 

@RationalMadman,

I'm sad you left before you got to see it, Oromagi lost his 95th debate. It was a good debate though, really quality on both sides, there is absolutely no shame in him loosing there.

Friend in the crowd

Yee, but its ironic because you pointed out he's never been voted against, and now he's lost. Its just in regard to this post not what Oromagi's said.

Very interesting, am I a child?

That is a good point, you've made a good point!

Is it right or wrong, for this thread I won't take a side, just the "blank slate voter", so go crazy!

But I win

You are new, welcome, also, very good point.

Are you still here?

Germany!

Good bye! Thank you for being good part of this site, I'm sorry I missed your send off.

Hmm, kinda fun that now he lost his first debate or at least ironic right?

I know listen to Billy Joel and Queens

mm, I'd say knowledge allows you to make informed decisions that are ultimately better for you, regardless of "happiness"

Honestly, it means your apparently pretty creative.

What do you think of our debate? Do you think anyone will vote on it? Who do you personally feel won? How is your day going?

Definitely not your best point there buddy

Hey, did I ever get back to that post I said I would? If I didn't think you could direct me to it's location? Because I feel bad if I said I would and hadn't gotten to it

AD POPULUM!!! That's a fallacy that you just employed btw, how did the pope get into power? Incredulous people, they are everywhere. 

True and God do not belong in a sentence together unless the sentence is pointing out that god isn't true.

So here, you didn't actually address any point or any specific policy. And just because you personally did well under a policy, didn't mean that its the best policy.

Question, did or did not the Christian god make humanity?