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If something is victimless, it should be always legal, change my mind
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@TheUnderdog
Wrong, because that's by definition impossible. Give me an example of a crime that's victimless. 
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Kid vs religion.
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@Tradesecret
Indeed, and the biggest evidence is literally the fact that super natural phenomena is impossible in a physical world, and any non-physical realms would need to be demonstrated before you could even get to the other thing.
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How strong of a debater is [Barney], actually?
Again I would just say that Ragnar is a strong debater, so yes, he deserves his spot for sure. 
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GOOD ADVICE
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@3RU7AL
Eh, but trees don't have coinousness. JK, okay that's not my real response, but no, its not its fault, that's assuming it was possible to inroot quickly enough that the farmer couldn't uproot it, which in a lot of cases isn't possible. So no, its the Farmers fault and luck
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Analysis of MisterChris's argument "Obj morality exists"
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@logicae
No it means you have the wrong definition of subjective, check Lexico.com. which is an English, Spanish, translator, thesaurus and dictionary powered by Oxford
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Abortion
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@Checkmate
Okay I'm speedrunning this whole, "getting back to first in most active forum posters" but lets get to the barbones of my prochoice argument.

A woman has rights over their body.
A fetus may or may have those rights.

If the fetus doesn't then, that means abortions all a-okay!
If the fetus does, then that means you are comparing the mother's rights to te fetus's rights.

Do fetuses have the right to force a mother to literally be apart of them, hold them, inside of their body? No, no they do not, that would be extra rights, granted to the fetus. Theres a lot more than that, but that's the bare bones point.
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God and Dreamtime stories.
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@Tradesecret
Jargon? Literally most of modern biology is based on the fact of evolution.
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Self-Criticism
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@whiteflame
Thats definitely a good point, I'll do my best to study debates more and try to familiarize myself with the direction of attack that people usually come from and have a built-in defence in my case. I'll just keep trying to improve!
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How pro life (or pro choice) are you on abortion?
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@AddledBrain
I'm pro-choice, very pro-choice, though my one debate on the matter needs to happen again, because I performed terribly, at least to my tastes, and I think I could do much better now.
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Do children start out atheist?
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@RoderickSpode
I mean, you're wrong, not in what you're saying, but the premise.

Atheists can either be people with a lack of belief or people who actively disbelieve, therefore babies, as they lack a belief, are technically atheists. Now is this a useful distinction? Not really, because their atheists just like the stereotyped, mad at god, sort of atheist is an atheist ya know? You can be an atheist for bad or just semantic reasons. I think that falls under here.
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Pornography, and the destruction it causes.
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@Barney
It is strange that people don't notice the precise wording there, I've read through it a couple times. You did an absolute brilliant job on that document I must say.
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Leftwing narratives getting destroyed
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@Sum1hugme
Right? I never got that vibe from you, more central if anything
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Why is the world crazy now?
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@Utanity
So then Hitler was the truth? Or are you saying killing 10 million people isn't a win for Hitler? Because him destroying that many lives was absolutely his goal, and he achieved it.
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On the validity of I.Q. as a measurement of intelligence
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@MgtowDemon
Either way lets not dance around the point, you are wrong MgtowDemon, as here is another article proving you wrong:

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Saved or Saved Being Saved?
Essentially the entire "saved" thing is bullshit, god was the one who supposedly put us in this position, therefore would be no need to be saved if god wasn't an apparent asshole.
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What happens next?
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@ethang5
I am gay yes, all of your points weren't real ones and lacked any sources to back you up, you blatantly ignored sources which you disagreed with and didn't actually quote the entire thing. You are wrong is the message you should get from this, and if you're persistent enough I'll come back and give you a more specific reply. Also I've been pretty verbose about being gay, so... I don't know how you missed that.
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"The more homework, the better"
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@Intelligence_06
I mean, some stuff yeah, but there is also a lot of stuff definitely neccesary
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The Ego
Generally i think there are pros and cons to a colloquial ego, and a philosophical ego is needed ya know for logic in general.
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Why is the world crazy now?
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@Utanity
Thats wrong, because people can disagree on what the truth is
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Why is murder actually wrong.
Murder is wrong because it sabotages everyone involved, you are net harmed by the action.
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Confession
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@seldiora
I have to admit something too, I'm not actually a person, in reality, I'm a cat.
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Self-Criticism
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@seldiora
I'm pretty similar to whiteflame in that I usually have to edit down my debates because it breaches character limits, its also true that my initial case is nearly always weaker than my rebuttals/conclusion, I'm just better at rebutting than I am at attacking, so whenever I have a hard time defending my points I generally tend to lose. I also have a slight problem with motivation and all sorts of things like that, I'm currently trying to blitzkrieg though so I don't have time for further consideration, thank you
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Mask Poll
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@sadolite
Oooooh, ultra gay? Sounds like my jam!
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Ethics
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@Sum1hugme
Logic, me, humans, etc, etc
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Leftwing narratives getting destroyed
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@MgtowDemon
Aww, I'm hurt, you couldn't even add me?


Also, Chris? Left wing? HAhahahaha! You're fucking hysterical! 
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The troops want a new commander in chief
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@Dr.Franklin
The wall, and lots of other things, like separating them and taking them away from families, it was so bad it was an entire 30 minutes of a presidential debate, and he didn't even DENY that he had done it, just "That Obama built the cages" Which Biden responded that they made a mistake and he was wrong to do that, whereas Trump never admitted such a thing.
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What happens next?
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@ethang5
Exactly! But his logic is parroting your logic, so using your logic, yes that is the natural conclusion we reach!
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Is Liberalism Dying?
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@ethang5
Indeed, indeed it is
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Why is the world crazy now?
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@Utanity
I'm sorry what? I think i agree, could you just like... explain it more clearly please?
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2 Killed in Attack by a Guy with a Sword
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@ethang5
Wait are you asking people if they want to become mods?
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Should books have ratings similar to movies?
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@Lemming
Mm, sometimes there are warnings, especially whenever purchasing online, which is where the vast majority of book sales happens
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Forum Activity
BLITZKRIEG!!!!
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Morality - Is Atheism More Reasonable than Theism?
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@PGA2.0
Some scenarios make sense of our existence others do not. I do not believe an atheistic explanation can be consistent with its starting presuppositions, its causal roots.
A god creating it would make more sense, but it makes less sense that a god is presumed to or exists at all. 



We also have lots of philosophic and empirical reasons to believe He does, the impossibility or improbability of the contrary. Overall, atheism can not make sense of many key aspects of life, such as existence, the universe's origin, and morality. It does not have what is necessary for these three aspects.
I have already explained life, I have already explained existence, and origin, you have not sufficiently rebutted these. 

Morality doesn't matter, because you would have to prove that objective morality exists at all, which you haven't.


With the moral aspect we are dealing with here, atheism lacks a fixed reference point or ideal of comparison. 
Everything lacks a fixed moral point that's demonstratable.

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What happens next?
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@ethang5
FLRW #25
@Dr.Franklin
Anti-gay activists who make that claim allege that all men who molest male children should be seen as homosexual. But research by A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children, shows that is not so. Groth found that there are two types of child molesters: fixated and regressive. The fixated child molester — the stereotypical pedophile — cannot be considered homosexual or heterosexual because "he often finds adults of either sex repulsive" and often molests children of both sexes. Regressive child molesters are generally attracted to other adults, but may "regress" to focusing on children when confronted with stressful situations. Groth found that the majority of regressed offenders were heterosexual in their adult relationships.
The Child Molestation Research & Prevention Institute notes that 90% of child molesters target children in their network of family and friends, and the majority are men married to women. Most child molesters, therefore, are not gay people lingering outside schools waiting to snatch children from the playground, as much religious-right rhetoric suggests.
Also, a new study, which attempts to correct for problems with current survey methodology (even when anonymous we don't always answer honestly), finds that 19 percent of Americans don't consider themselves heterosexual. Also, about 60 percent of pre-adolescent boys engage in homosexual activities, and there is an additional group of adult males who avoid overt contact but who are quite aware of their potentialities for reacting to other males.




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Theweakeredge AMA
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@seldiora
Psychologist/speaker/writer/maybe professor
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12th - 18th Century Europe's war on murder resulted in positive genetic change in Europeans
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@MgtowDemon
Let me ask you a question, which specific behavioral traits cause one to be more or less violent?
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Using the terms "racism" and "racist" makes you look stupid
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@MgtowDemon
No, not right now, as I don't have the time, and I using the cited definition of racism earlier, your points are semantic at best.
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United States slaves were, overall, treated quite well
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@MgtowDemon
Nah, I think that's your burden. I didn't get specific statistics because we're talking history here, I got you primary sources detailing the treatment of slavery and such. You wouldn't have fucking data collection, are you daft?
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On the validity of I.Q. as a measurement of intelligence
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@MgtowDemon
This is semantic at best, btw, my own IQ scores gave me a 121 as a 12-year-old, when I retook it last year I got 140 back. I don't think IQ scores are wrong because I got a low score, I think IQ scores are bad because they're bad
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TOS infractions engaged in and ignored by a moderator
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@MisterChris
I mean, it was only after a long conversation that I think him racist, I was just pointing out a thing he said was racist, i thought his point was that that thing he said wasn't racist, not that he thinks what he actually thinks
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United States slaves were, overall, treated quite well
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@Death23
@Sum1hugme
@MgtowDemon
MgtowDemon you are incorrect in your assertions, and you still haven't refuted my points, you bring have points and then don't even completely justify your opinions, your sources are sad at best
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@MisterChris
Agreed there, you wanna know what started all this? A conversation between me and him about Fauxlaw and his conversation, which quickly turned into me pointing out that saying, "each race has different abilities" is racist. Then after 100 messages, he went to get his opinion supported by the masses, oh how ironic was that.
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12th - 18th Century Europe's war on murder resulted in positive genetic change in Europeans
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@MgtowDemon
None of your sources provided the existence of a so-called, "Violence gene" in fact they went on to speculate exactly what caused this drop of violence and what made it specifically seemingly "inheritable". Not only this, but they do not actually rebuke my own source which it seems you have failed to actually read or at all respond to. Yes those who are from criminal families may have a slightly higher susceptibility to criminal inducing behavior, sometimes but that does not at all correlate to a "violence gene"
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@MisterChris
So he just ranted about you being a child for like 5 posts because he's being arrogant as fuck? And he calls you the child?
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Using the terms "racism" and "racist" makes you look stupid
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@MgtowDemon
As you never responded to the very first objections:

You can be racist and not hate that other race, you can be racist and hate the other race. That's a fallacy, specifically of the false dichotomy, second of all, you only rebuked a single source in the multitude of sources that disagreed with you. Third, this was all started because you couldn't handle the fact that you couldn't convince me of your clearly definitionally racist sentiments. 
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@MisterChris
DId he just.... wasn't there an entire thread about you turning 18?
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The Standard Argument Against Free Will (TSAAFW)
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@3RU7AL
I would agree to all of this, I just don't think that was Undefeatable's main point, it was partially, just not all of it. Regardless thank you for your input.
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The Ego
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@Danielle
If your asking why some people believe colloquial ego-ism is bad, I presume your asking why arrogance or pride is bad. I don't think pride is necessarily bad, though religious interference may have been a reason for people believing it to be bad. Arrogance often leads to faulty reasoning, uncalled for disregard for people and their arguments, etc, etc..

Of course thats just a short thought from me, what do you think?
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The Ego
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@Danielle
Lexico defines Ego as the following:

NOUN egos

A person's sense of self-esteem or self-importance.
‘he needed a boost to his ego’

1.1 Psychoanalysis The part of the mind that mediates between the conscious and the unconscious and is responsible for reality testing and a sense of personal identity.
Compare with id and superego
‘Jung also found that in practice both anima and animus act in dreams and in the imagination as mediators of the unconscious to the ego, so providing a means for inner as well as outer adaptation.’

1.2 Philosophy (in metaphysics) a conscious thinking subject.
‘In this being the empirical ego has its origin, and through ethical conduct it returns to its source.’

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@MgtowDemon
No, you haven't, I refuted each of your points in our message, and not to mention you still haven't refuted my points.
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