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I hate when Speed does the swap thing because he does it both times but I always read it as scummy
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First time I can change 3 times, then 2 times next DP, then next I pick and that's it
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@Speedrace
I am a Restless Spirit. When I die, I still get a vote for the next DP. if I vote to lynch a certain player it takes less votes to lynch them
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@Danielle
Right, Trump couldn't ban all Muslims because it's unconstitutional, but that's what he WANTED to do. That's what he kept saying at his rallies and people cheered. He said it over and over during the campaign and all over Fox News. So of course when he won, liberals were like whoa there's that many Islamophobes in this country who think that's okay? What group is next?
I don't think it was because the country was "Islamophobic," but I remember at the time that terrorism domestically and foreign was at all time high. Many people were scared and afraid of ISIS and their terror. I think played a lot of that American fear to try to win support, (which btw I disagree with 100%. There are justifiable ways to try to secure faith in your candidacy). But I don't think it was Islamophobia that pushed people to vote, but more of fear of ISIS coming to America and another 9/11 happening, and his words appealed to people.
We've already seen him want to give the death penalty to 5 innocent black men exonerated by DNA evidence (he refuses to admit he was wrong about that).
But when Kamala and Biden tried to oppress black people for years, they are labelled heroes? Biden signed and supported the Crime Bill that put more blacks in prison. And by god Kamala, I mean, where do I even start. Maybe this speech by Tulsi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4fjA0K2EeE will help. Here's more: https://medium.com/@kalondamulamba/kamalas-crimes-against-black-people-8-reasons-why-we-should-oppose-kamala-harris-90f60a0ad753
He wanted to deport Dreamers and portrayed illegal immigrants as rapists and low lives.
In July he said he wants to provide a path of citizenship for DACA recipients
He would call any political or celebrity opponent horrible names,
Well there are some names that are a terrible, but really? I mean Sleepy Joe and Corrupt Kamala? Are those that bad? Crazy Bernie? Mini Mike?
including a war hero like John McCain whom he mocked for being a POW.
That was very shameful. That hurt my view of him
But what Trump is doing is trying to discredit the entire voting process simply because he lost. My problem with this in the big picture is not that you're a conservative (because #1 I'm not super liberal myself, and #2 I'm very open minded in general) it's that you aren't acting as alarmed about this as you should be.
Because nothing is gonna come of Trump whining and crying about what is going on. Nothing will happen and Biden will still be president. It's just FOX being bad sports
Yes Ben Shapiro acknowledged Trump lost the election and that's great, but you've been talking about how Democrats shouldn't be happy they won because they did so poorly elsewhere.
Well they did? I mean be happy about getting rid of Trump, but be concerned that you lost seats in the house and Trump gained 10% of Latino vote despite his remarks. I mean that has to be a concern if you are a Demnocrat that someone who has been SO AGAINST LATINO's has gained 10% of their vote
You are talking about how liberals were upset in 2016 as some sort of justification for what Trump supporters are doing now.
I never said it was a justification. I called out the hypocrisy of calling out Trump supporters for this because of 2016, and just reminded you how the Dems reacted.
You are talking about anything you can to talk trash about "the other side" rather than acknowledge that this is not normal or acceptable behavior from the President. You and all of his other supporters, not just Ben Shapiro, need to call it out for what it is. Because the fact that Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and other MAINSTREAM TALKING HEADS are perpetuating this narrative that the election was "stolen" from Trump is very alarming.
Well we have said Trump has lost this election and we said Trump should concede. What else can I do? Walk into FOX News and tell Tucker Carlson to stop? He's only getting attention cuz he's mainstream. If you take a scroll thru some people socials who voted Trump, they thanked him and said we have to rally for Biden. They obviously think this is a mistake, but will respect it, and I think that is a lot of the Conservatives. You're just focusing on the ones that are hypo Trumpites.
I feel like every Trump supporter should be having a come to Jesus moment about how their favorite person on the planet really is the psycho narcissist the media has been portraying him has. Like sure maybe you like his policies, but he's a fucking piece of shit. Good riddance.
I don't think he is a psychotic but definitely a narcissist. And believe me, I think a lot of Trump supporters are in touch with Jesus since Christians like him lol.
Anyway we can talk about Marco Rubio now. Do you really think Republicans will love him that much? He doesn't have that chutzpah Trump does. Nobody's waving giant Marco Rubio flags except for maybe some Hispanic-Americans. He'll have to beg people to vote; it's not gonna be like Trump where people are out there ready to go to war for him. I could see a bigger personality being the candidate of choice. But maybe. Maybe Nikki Haley, or maybe even someday Ivanka. Yikes.
No one is gonna carry this type of chutzpah for any candidate ever on both sides for a bit and especially not on the Conservative side. I like Rubio because with a growing % of the Latino vote, he could potentially help the Conservative party gain some of that. People need to understand he is pretty conservative versus other candidates and is very big on state issues and such. Much more Conservative than you think. I think he could light a spark in the party that we haven't seen. I like Haley as well and Candace Owens, but I have some problems with Owens
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Yeah VTL SirAnon
We basically have town confirmed on our team at the moment, me(town), and a good idea on who is scum. We are in a good position ATM fmpov if there is one or more scum left or if this is the only scum
We basically have town confirmed on our team at the moment, me(town), and a good idea on who is scum. We are in a good position ATM fmpov if there is one or more scum left or if this is the only scum
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@Speedrace
Makes sense then. Will vote him tonight
Still wanna discuss potential targets
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@Speedrace
And Lunatic was recruited by Magic then?
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I'm 99% sure Sir is scum, but I'm not gonna go ahead and vote him yet because he didn't SOP claim. Want evidence suggesting Magic visited Sir
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Also jumping to a lynch without discussing anything is bad strat
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I don't want to jump on the Sir hammer yet because I want to know why we are so quick to jump on him besides the CC. Did Magic state she was gonna target him?
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Wait wait. Why are we jumping to Sir lynch. Did I miss anything from last DP. FYI I'm willing to lynch Sir but what is causing us to lynch him?
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@Athias
He's also a segregationist
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@Lunatic
Also I've literally made a post on DART saying Trump should concede and I have said in Discord, "I am looking to the next election." I even said there might be fraud but not enough to turn the election for Trump. So idk what type of stereotype I'm falling into lmao
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Republicans losing: welp we lost. Oh well congrats BidenDemocrats losing in 2016: *scream at the sky* WAAAAAHHHHHHAccording to my facebook feed, I am not seeing the first reaction from republicans at all. I've alternatively had three pro Trump friends ask any Biden voters on their list to remove them. Lost of crying and whining about the ballots.
I'm not gonna get into a ballot debate. I think ballots were miscounted but not enough to turn the election. And from my perspective, this is not the case. My Trump supporting friends have accepted the outcome and look for Biden to not f*cking screw them over. We can play that card as well
Supa, there are whiners on both sides and sore losers across the board. Every election I've heard people on both sides whine about the outcome.
Like I said, hypocrisy. In 2016 the Conservatives said to get over yourself and the Libs cried and screamed. In 2020 the reverse happened and the same thing is happening
All the Conservatives? That's a bit of a strawman argument.You are literally doing the same thing in regards to the liberals, both on the discord and in this forum
In what way? My CNN comments? Because it's true. It's true with FOX as well. With CNN, they have said NOTHING about condemning these mass celebrations, in fact they said "they're wearing a mask, there's some concern with social distancing!" They didn't spark outrage like they did with Trump rallies when cases were LOWER than they are now versus when Trump was starting his rallies in July. I bet if Trump supporters were celebrating in the streets, CNN would shame and slander them and FOX News would argue what I'm saying now. It's called subjective news.
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@Lunatic
bi denYes his name is BidenR/whooosh
I know it was a Bye Don joke, but it was poorly executed lol
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Well people still breaking COVID guidelines by mass celebrating. What more can I say. The Democratic Party AKA the party of hypocrites. I bet if Trump supporters were to do the same thing... all hell would break lose. Please hold yourself to a higher standard of decency
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Seriously lmao. That's a joke. You're gonna compare the very few people who said not my president to the tons of Democrats who said the same thingIt was a widespread thing republicans did under obama. Most people on the left accepted trump was president. they were ashamed of him because he was a complete idiot. But yes, that is a republican thing. And I am 100% sure they will continue doing it to biden since they believe their cult leader's conspiracy theories.
Believe what you want but the chant was much more used under Trump versus Obama. I think this is BS
So he won fair and square and you still stay "not my president."I didn't say "not my president". I said he's a stupid, sexist, racist and wildly corrupt president. But he was still president.
I'm talking about the party itself
Most Dems did the same thing with hacking and no one called them out for being "sore losers." Hypcritesare you kidding? Republicans spent years doing that.
Doing what? Complaining about the election. Literally both candidates who lost to Obama told people to stop talking about rigged unlike Trump.
You are blind. Do you not see the mass amounts of people in NYC, Chicago, not socially distanced and some without masks celebrating?no, i have not seen that. But since i do not live there, why would I?
So you don't check social media or live by it. Noted bias
And where are the Trump protests? Where? I have literally seen none besides them tweeting about it.]There are protests in front of the polling station chanting "count the votes" in states where trump was losing and needed the votes counted, and "stop the steal" in states where trump was a ahead but his lead was falling. How do you not know that? There were even protesters who showed up to Bill Barr's house to try to get him to investigate and arrest biden.
I never said they didn't. But there is more turnout of these non socially distance Biden celebrations that Trump protests from what I am seeing, so again, subjective bias on you
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@Danielle
Political Discussion aside, you've taken the throne of Rap Battle champion from RM lol
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@Mopac
I live in Chicago so that's all I see and hear so idk. I'd think maybe there be some of those people in Texas, but in Austin? I thought Austin was a Liberal city?
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@Lunatic
Tbh I just don't feel like having this game where Mikal complains about the site with no justification and raves is good and his behavior is extremely anti town to me t the level of Croc was. I also had a sus of him if Speed turned scum so I don't think it was a bad lynch
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(also please don't take 202 literally lol it's obv joke but thought it was funny)
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@Mikal
Gonna vote you out just like my dead grandma voted out Trump
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@SirAnonymous
Mikal having his hatred toward DART cuz of mods and RM to me and just giving up is anti town to the point of Croc level that it deserves to be lynched. I'm also tired of hearing it too lmao
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Unvote VTL Mikal
I have my sus of Mikal and he isn't helping town in anyway
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I just don't understand the obsessive partisanship from people. Yes Dems were livid in 2016 because a fucking caricature won he presidency - someone who is on tape saying he can't help but grab married women by the pussy. This is a man who while campaigning was insanely xenophobic and said he wanted to ban ALL Muslims from the US which is completely unconstitutional (and reminded people of Hitler). People were very alarmed by this celebrity fraud becoming leader of the Free World, that's true. And many people marched and noted the election hacking by Russians which is 100% true and was proven by the way (even Trump admitted it).
Yet he didn't ban ALL Muslims because it was unconstitutional to do such a thing.
But what Trump is doing is insane. All the conservatives out there in the media, online and everywhere perpetuating the false notion of a rigged or stolen election is alarming.
All the Conservatives? That's a bit of a strawman argument. Yes Trumpites are, but not Conservatives. Even Ben Shapiro said that what he's doing claiming victory is dangerous and insane. And all? I mean I accepted the results, therefore...it isn't ALL Conservatives, and you can find people who supported Trump who are sad he didn't win, but will accept the election results. A simple scroll on TikTok will show you 17yr olds who backed Trump just admitting defeat and wishing Biden the best. Yet here we are, basing all the Conservatives as savages looking for more power
Can't we come together and focus on that instead of go into a "BUT HRR DRR LIBS WERE SO ANNOYING IN 2016" rant instead? Honestly. This is a scary moment and I don't see how that red herring is useful.
But if you're gonna claim that Conservatives are doing this, I can claim the same thing you are saying right now
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@Lunatic
I said it seems like it. I'm not ruling out a Mikal scum if Speed is scum
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@SirAnonymous
He said he gets his role revealed in NP1 but knows his affiliation. I've never seen a role mechanic that functions that way and it's so odd for you to know your know affil but not your role at all. It's weird af
I scum read Speed because he first was saying Magic is scum because of what Mikal said, then backed off it and now is claiming town. He never even wanted to pressure Magic even though she said "she's scum" but then turned his logic around. Speed wouldn't do that in my opinion like that. I also think his somewhat lurkiness and then his quick VTL of Pie so late when he was on Mikal and then him turning on Grey without putting pressure on Mikal seems weird
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Mikal doubling down on Lunatic is town bickering to me. Mikal is always like this as town from what I've played with him in live mafia. He's gonna stick to what he thinks and he's not gonna let something go at all even if he is wrong. I don't think its scummy but just a Mikal thing to do in general. I honestly just read him more as town IMO
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First thing is first I still believe Speed is a scum lean despite him backing off Magic. His gut reactions to Mikal's meta reading in general was so scummy and lynch hunting to me. He has jumped on Grey's wagon when I was on his wagon as well and just seems to be lurkyish. His contradictory behavior in general is a turnoff for me. Him and Grey are my two biggest scum reads
for Grey, I don't understand how tf you can misread your role and mistake a 1 for a 3. That makes no sense to me at all. He's just been inconsistent and I believe Grey is lying about his role without a doubt. It looks like the roles were random based off Pie's flip and I don't think Grey is town at all.
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@HistoryBuff
I accept that Biden is the president unlike your party saying that trump isn’t your president lmao. God.you are aware that the republicans started that nonsense? the whole "not my president" was common among the right under obama.
Seriously lmao. That's a joke. You're gonna compare the very few people who said not my president to the tons of Democrats who said the same thing
Most democrats were unhappy that trump won and many had trouble understanding how he did, but there wasn't widespread conspiracy theories that it was stolen, like many republicans are doing right now.
So he won fair and square and you still stay "not my president." I could easily bring up the excess votes in Wisconsin, the fact that there is evidence that dead people voted this election, cry and whine about election rigging and mail in ballots because those are all possibilities, but do you see me doing it? No. Most Dems did the same thing with hacking and no one called them out for being "sore losers." Hypcrites
Also you said people are partying in the streets! Oh did we forget that covid is a thing... shouldn’t we be socially distancing with rising cases?those two things are not mutually exclusive. you can dance in streets while wearing a mask and social distancing. But there are alot of trumpists out there "protesting" without masks and very close together.
You are blind. Do you not see the mass amounts of people in NYC, Chicago, not socially distanced and some without masks celebrating? Lol you are actually delusional. And where are the Trump protests? Where? I have literally seen none besides them tweeting about it. This is nonsense and delusion progressivism trying to undermine the voice of Conservatives
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@Danielle
Whatever. I don’t care. I accept that Biden is the president unlike your party saying that trump isn’t your president lmao. God.
Also you said people are partying in the streets! Oh did we forget that covid is a thing... shouldn’t we be socially distancing with rising cases? Or should we call out Trump for having rallies only? Lmao hypocrisy at its finest
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Republicans losing: welp we lost. Oh well congrats Biden
Democrats losing in 2016: *scream at the sky* WAAAAAHHHHHH
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@Danielle
Trump did get more % of the votes in 2020 in Illinois than 2016. Lol did you really think I’d say Illinois would flip cuz I never did lmao
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@Greyparrot
Luna said he was vig. He's confirmed IMO
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@SirAnonymous
He said that he'd be revealed now, and now he changes it. Something sees fishy, I'll probably change, but that's initial vote
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@SirAnonymous
Hoping not, I hope other people see that lots of Conservatives aren't thinking like Trumpites and are thinking logically
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@SirAnonymous
To me it's more dignity. Giving your base a shitty reputation for spewing misleading information is not what the GOP should be about
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@RationalMadman
Sadly I agree, he's gotten really chaotic as well as his die hards. It's humorous but sad to see their denial
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As of now years old, my support of Donald Trump has been terminated. I have moved on from the president and will be looking to the future for a new candidate to get behind. I still remain a Conservative Libertarian in my beliefs, but Trumps support has dwindled. It is time as a country to rally around Biden. To my Conservative friends, please do not fight the election results. There is no need in giving the word "Republican" a distaste. Could there be signs of collusion, possibly, but until hard evidence comes, let us not dwell on this notion.
To Trump, please peacefully concede the election when the results come in. John McCain's resignation speech is one that I greatly enjoyed. To claim you have won the election is foolish. You have not won and you should start accepting defeat. You are leaving distaste in many of the mouths of Conservatives, especially since lots of them are being much more mature about the election than you are
Also, I would like to thank you for your time in the office you spent. You have helped business across the nation for 3 years, your efforts to denuclearize North Korea, your support of the military, giving $1B in funding to autism research and services, and lowering unemployment. Your 2016 election was stunning and chapelling, defying all odds and winning. Despite what some many say, I believe you were a good president.
To Biden, you will probably be the president of the United States (unless anything drastic happens to change that). You have a tough task in not only uniting the country, but fighting COVID, helping return to normalcy, and trying to restart the country. While I disagree with increasing taxes and policy, you were my top pick for a Democratic candidate behind Amy K. I wish you good luck and good health in the office.
While I am concerned because of Kamala and some of the democrats socialist policies which I disagree with, I am one to trust my faith that god knows what he is doing in this scenario and has a plan. I will trust my fate in what god has decided. Fear and anger are a given for lots of Conservatives and people on both sides and the future is unclear, but as the election dwindles down, we will see what happens
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