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My god would not tell me to murder anyone
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@Ayyantu
I'm not trying to persuade you I'm right. It's just where I'm keeping my vote at the moment, until I find something scummier.
Yes but your justification is extremely weak to be putting a vote on someone. A sour reaction isn't enough to trigger a VTL, especially if it's satire. We are saying that you don't give enough evidence your strategy and hesitation is detrimental
You keep saying I'm trying to push a mislynch. Why are you so sure that Water is town?
Because I think you are scum forcing a mislynch. Granted you could be town and Water is scum, but from my reads you are scum
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he could have been an anti-town scum but instead chose to play pro-town.
The ceiling is above me and the floor is below me. This is basic evidence. He could be faking.
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@Ayyantu
You said his response "which was sarcastic" was scummy. That's it. You're basing your entire case on Water because he randomly voted and how he reacted. This is you forcing a mislynch. Give me another reason
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@Ayyantu
OK everyone does that. How does that justify you reading Water as scum? How does that justify your suggestion to out everyones role? You have the main concept yet you fail to provide logic behind that process is my concern, which leads me to believe you are scum
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@Ayyantu
Describe to me your style. I like this point so if you elaborate it I may be inclined to lean town
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@Ayyantu
There's general concensus of how to play as scum. Forcing mislynches, knowing roles of people to have a better NK target, etc. A noob scum will make it more obvious than a non noob would. You are following these criteria's of a typical noob scum
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@Danielle
It's true that Ayyantu voted for Water over a "satirical post" and threw out the idea of a mass claim, but #1 with little to go on that "satirical" post was a place to start - especially since noob scum tend to slip with "jokes" like that, and #2 it could have been a reaction test. In fact it probably was considering Ayyantu immediately dropped the idea of a mass claim (after saying he wouldn't push on it in the first place) and then pointed to Water's reaction to his FOS.
Do you think he's experience enough to do reaction tests? Seems a bit out there IMO
I'm pretty sure you mentioned the mass claim more times than he did at this point. You seem to be harping on it. I can't tell if you're innocently grasping at straws or if you're scum using legitimate points to FOS Ayyantu. I mean if you wanna keep your vote on him I totally get it, but he's clearly not a noob (I hope he's Mikal).
He calls this site a shithole and the account has done like 4 debates. He'd have to have a lot of commitment to the site which I don't think he does.
I have my vote on Ayyantu because he is the candidate right now I see as the highest % of being scum because his logic for voting seems pushy. I'm not fully sold on him, but I wouldn't be opposed to lynching him
One thing I hope doesn't happen though is a split vote count to the point of getting no claims. Fortunately the town seems more active this DP1 than in previous games so we've got time to think about it.
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@Ayyantu
A scums behavior is to lead mislynches and not get lynched to win with town. You are targeting Water over a very satirical post and are scum reading. You are also role hunting, which is a scummy thing to do. You are making it so obvious that it is hard to read you as town
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@SirAnonymous
I don't see it. If he had prior experience and is now hunting down scum off little evidence while barely playing seems like such a noob scum to me?
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@SirAnonymous
He's never played on DART. He's by all accounts a noob and this seems like noob scum behavior
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@Ayyantu
Why is Water scum to you though? What is indictive of him being scum that you warrant you pushing a lynch?
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@SirAnonymous
But doesn't it strike you odd that he's so willing to lynch and then wants people to out roles
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Yea do metas change over time? I don't think they wouldI used to be so aggressive as town that if I lightened up even a little, people sussed me. I'd have to go into these very dramatic theatrics to defend myself because people assumed if I didn't it was a scum tell. So for a time I committed to being very chill and passive regardless of affiliation because that previous meta was very exhausting.
Well obviously for certain people but like in game metas? Idk but Croc said he played earlier and I don't think metas in general differ that much cuz even when I played 2 yrs. No one wants a mass claim
I posted in the Sign Ups that I probs won't talk as much on DP1 anymore just because I'm starting to feel a forced meta there as well.While I know they are new, I just feel it's noob scum being overly aggressive.Why not noob town? (I don't have a feeling on Ayyantu yet other than wanting to know whose alt they are.)
I just don't think as noob the first post is to call for a mass claim is noob town. I've seen paranoia and that doesn't seem like it. Maybe if it was just that, but he also was looking for lynch targets within the first page. It just seems like he's hunting IMO
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@Crocodile
Yea do metas change over time? I don't think they would
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@MisterChris
Also the suburban shifting demographic thing the Communist News Network was talking about is alot of crap. Most of these towns are red towns but flipped blue just like most places flipped blue because they can't stand Trump or COVID
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@MisterChris
Texas isn't gonna go blue. Reason why it was even close was only because of higher turnout in urban areas. Most of the state is conservative and even the cities still have a strong conservative base.
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@lady3keys
The issue with raising taxes for people making 400k plus is very prominent
1. People who are doctors who own their own practice who make that money that to pay more. Not everyone in America is Bill Gates type wealthy above 400k, and it could take a huge toll on those people.
2. We are in a global pandemic. When you increases taxes on companies, they have to cut jobs because they don't have the resources to hire more employees. With more funds, you can open up more jobs for people. We are also in a pandemic where people are losing their jobs, so it will be crucial.
3. Prices of goods becomes higher. If these companies get taxed more, they have to increase the prices of their goods to make up for the losses. If oil companies becomes taxed, gas prices will probably go up by maybe .14 cents a gallon or such to make up the loss. Normal Americans will have to pay extra in a pandemic that has taken away jobs.
So yes, while you only tax the 400k+, you are causing a spillover effect to the normal Americans
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Despite the fact he or she is new (i don't want to misgender someone or my head will be cut by the SJW's), I don't like the aggressiveness to mass claim and wanting to lynch someone. To me it seems like role hunting and a bit scummy. While I know they are new, I just feel it's noob scum being overly aggressive.
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@Intelligence_06
Uhhh that doesn't prove they are town. There was a game once that was with live mafia where someone put their NP action in the chat pretending it to be a joke and then actually killed that person so he could make it out that someone framed him. He won the game off that, so don't rule out that possibility. I don't think Water is big brained enough to do that
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@Intelligence_06
Most people have the day off school or are in school so they are either sleeping or obtaining knowledge
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@Ayyantu
VTL Ayyantu
Experience with mafia? Why do you wanna mass claim so early?
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I am now awake and have eaten a healthy breakfast. Time to read the DP
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Hello sorry I won’t be able to talk much tonight because I have dranken upon the devils drink, so I am not fully in it and I don’t want to say some stupid shit. Will post fully and read tmrw
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Ofc I'd argue risk factor > season duration when deciding payrolls
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@Theweakeredge
There's a risk to baseball without a doubt. I mean some people can get seriously injured from baseball (eg: a pitcher gets the ball knockbacked in their face. If a pitcher is throwing 97mph, it's an exit velo of 107mph or more). But that is very rare. They also get payed more because of the longer season. But I think it should be assessed by risk factor. Football is the most dangerous sports and yet it's got the second lowest payroll of the Big 4 despite it being the most likely for serious injury. I think it depends on you view sports in general
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@Theweakeredge
High risk sports should receive higher pay to pay for future surgeries and such. I believe baseball has too large of a payroll for someone to be paid $380M dollars to throw 6 innings for 1/5 of the season
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@BearMan
If they were nasty I'd say this "you're fucking stupid and I'm not gonna argue with someone so mentally incompetent of coming up with an argument. Therefore I'm done talking to you lmao. Take your stupid pill somewhere else."
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@BearMan
I stop arguing because they aren't worth my time. And really? I have done it on the site a couple of times lmao
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Nah only the Democrats would
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After this game I'm gonna take a 1 game break.
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@Juice
What are your opinions on The Kid Laroi?
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I had a gut read on Intel but didn't pursue cause I had no evidence
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Well I couldn't get a read on Sir cuz I haven't observed him as scum from town side and it's been awhile since he's played
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I had a feeling Intel was scummy but I couldn’t find a reason. Also good catch on Sir. Really didn’t sus him much at all
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@Intelligence_06
Well yeah but we can still talk until mod confirms and posts the ending of DP
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@Intelligence_06
You've been hammered lol
Also OMGUS lol
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@Speedrace
Plus Magic was functionally a cop and Chris is too, we have no need for a 1x cop lol
Magic arguably yes. Which I why I think you are more likely town because if Magic dies from recruiting scum, if you make the right track you can locate scum and she town confirms people. And I'd argue Chris is more of a protection but has some use of investigative, but not a lot
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@Intelligence_06
There is solid evidence to prove you are scum. Granted it might be false, but there is evidence based off the actions claimed by town and my reads and how the mechanic works. Obviously they could be lying but if this is a trial and you are a judge, you have to make the best judgement based on the evidence given
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Also to add to that, no one has the 1x variant so that's instant SUS right there
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@Speedrace
Also on drafters mafia roles it says that all targets and actions
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VTL Intel
Despite my Speed sus, I just don't think Speed would out Sir as scum by fake claiming Bomb when he claimed PGO to kill a teammate, then willingly know that Chris was a JK from role cop and then try to frame Intel. If he did that then holy shit
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@Speedrace
In theory it does because you are Jailing them, meaning you isolate that person so nothing can be done
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Speed took a big gambit with fake claiming bomb to force the mislynch on Sir. The thing is thought he wouldn't do this to his own teammate, so I just don't think Speed is scum cuz of that alone.
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@Speedrace
Bro we got into an argument about this and that's how it works lmao wymmmm
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I hate the fact that Speed did the role switch because I definitely think Speed is big brained enough to where he could have waived the NK off because he knew Chris was a JK cuz of Role Cop and when he saw his sus of Intel he tried to frame it on that.
But I honestly think Speed doing this as both sides makes me think it's more likely to be Intel. If Intel flips town and I die I am 100% putting my vote on Speed
But I honestly think Speed doing this as both sides makes me think it's more likely to be Intel. If Intel flips town and I die I am 100% putting my vote on Speed
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