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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@oromagi
I can confirm I was a Sibling. This time I am a Lover.
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@drafterman
It doesn't matter because it will lead to my inevitable death, but if I hypothetical was saved by a doctor or mafia doesn't target me, I'd say skittlez

With skittlez, it will give me clarity on

A) Who I think could now be scum
B) If he flips scum, who is scum

I also said my reason of why I think his defense is manufactured. I also think people might use Miller as a way to win as town. Luna has talked a lot about letting millers live and it makes sense that he would claim that. That's my opinion
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Hall of Fame II - Voting
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@Barney
Any progress?
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@drafterman
Also, before you were his lover did you have to get with his friends?
I just wanted him to tell me what he really really wants
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@SirAnonymous
I don't know how many games you've been in with Skittlez, but some of his games he just lazily claims and doesn't defend or his defense is a basic defense. Why the sudden change of pace?
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@oromagi
I was assigned my lover before the game
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@drafterman
I shouldn't excuse shitty vtl's as a reason to claim, but it was a high probability he'd go to L-1
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@drafterman
I said, Skittlez bandwagons on the likely lynch, 3 votes. I had no doubt in mind that someone would've put an L-1 on Intel and you said you would hammer no matter what
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@Lunatic
@SirAnonymous
Yes but him defending himself there was him being lazy as mafia. This just seems manufactured by him. If he was that lazy as scum, he would put the effort now if he improved. I think he is competent of improving, but his response seemed manufactured. I didn't read it as a skittlez defense.
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@drafterman
Just lovers 
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@SirAnonymous
I had no communication with Intelligence, so I don't know how he's feeling or if he approved

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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
Drafter's overall analysis of a Lover claim is a red flag to me. There isn't any hpothetical scenario. It was about to be an L-1 on Intel because he said he would hammer, and I had no doubt Skittlez would bandwagon and +1 would hop on wagon, so I had to claim to prevent 3 town from dying. It's simple
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@SirAnonymous
Yes.
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
I am going to be gone for 2hrs, checking in maybe once every 30min or so, but after that, I am going to see if I am going to go with skittlez
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@Barney
Not to mod psyche, but Speed had a game with lovers as well. He disclosed that both of us (Wylted and I) were on the same team. It is the same here
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
So I am going to do a breadcrumb by breadcrum analysis of my reads 

1. skittlez09
2. drafterman
3. oromagi
4. SupaDudz
5. Intelligence_06
6. Lunatic
7. MisterChris
8. SirAnonymous
9. Ragnar


cross off me and intel

1. skittlez09
2. drafterman
3. oromagi
4. Lunatic
5. MisterChris
6. SirAnonymous
7. Ragnar

I think Ragnar is a slight town out of his pack. His active analysis of claim to just is being pro town. His behavior hasn't inherently been bad, and I don't he can be scum

1. skittlez09
2. drafterman
3. oromagi
4. Lunatic
5. MisterChris
6. SirAnonymous

I lean town on Drafter. He hasn't played in games with Intel, Chris, so he has no idea how to analyze their behaviors. He is using his own logic with metas to determine how to think, which leads me to believe that he is a town.

1. skittlez09
3. oromagi
4. Lunatic
5. MisterChris
6. SirAnonymous

It comes down to these 4. SirAnon has not posted much yet, so he is null. I won't put him in the scum pile yet

1. skittlez09
3. oromagi
4. Lunatic
5. MisterChris
NULL/INACTIVE
6. SirAnonymous

If I had to guess a scum duo it is Lunatic and skittlez. It's not that I scumread them in general, but they are not the most town that I have on my list. Chris is not being anti town. I also kind of thought it was weird that Lunatic said, "he doesn't have enough of a big brain.' I said in a post earlier that my guess that if skittlez flips scum, he had a veteran tell him to say that sutff. I read what his responses were as manufactured and not necessarily genuine. The two "vets" are Oro and Luna. I haven't seen enough oro to see if he is scum, but the fact Lunatic said that is something I would go by. I'm not confident, and in fact, this isn't a scum read on Luna by any means because it is situational

My biggest FoS is Skittlez
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@drafterman
It says in my PM. You are both town
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@Lunatic
Well I'm gonna look how things will go down in the long run. Two votes out of 5, Drafter the hammer (as he mentioned), and a bandwagon vote from Skittlez because he hops on wagons on all of his votes. That's already a 4/5. I had no doubt in my mind that one person who hop on the train. It was better now IMO
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@Lunatic
It is annoying. We're obviously going to be the NK targets so we're gonna go down 2, but he was going to be the lynch candidate and it's better to potential hunt a scum in DP1 versus 3 dead town
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@Lunatic
@drafterman
@Barney
above
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
I know I'm gonna die and his bad behavior is gonna get us killed. Here is the claim. I am Martin Stein. I am intertwined with Ronnie Raymond after being combined by an accelerator
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
Fuck it.

Intelligence is town. I am his lover. 
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@drafterman
Not a smart idea. If you're gonna do that just put your vote on him then.
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
If Intel is at L-1, do not lynch him. If you lynch him at L-1, you are scum
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
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@MisterChris
I agree. While it is pretty shitty it is norm, you have to read it
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
I can't get a good read on Intel. His voting patterns resemble townish quality, but his logic and play is slight scum
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Add an anti bot reCAPTCHA
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Which one is in Chicago. Will join the riots there and properly say "FOR DEBATEART"
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
Intelligence jumping to major role conclusions and trying to out a players role is a major red flag. Drafter is MOST LIKELY not a double voter, and eve if he was, 99% of the time it's a town role. Why he would purposefully out that if it was true is an FOS
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@drafterman
Intelligence is a emotion first think later voter. He will vote first thing if he scum reads someone versus looking at the picture.
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@Speedrace
*eats breadcrumb* MMMMM
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
If skittlez is scum, I am willing to lynch someone who is a veteran. His response to that situation seemed somewhat scripted by someone guiding him in general to say that. 
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@drafterman
@MisterChris
My PM directly relates to my role. I do this psyche a lot in my games, similar to oro's WWTT strategy. If anyone has an indirect or direct relationship not similar to town, I start to sus
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@drafterman
It's called WIFOM.
I've never really understood WIFOM at all. Never a clear definition of what it was. Your example kinda helped with that so thanks lol
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@drafterman
Fair enough. My role does the same
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@skittlez09
Yea but I got issues with that

1. Early claiming these roles isn't the best thing
2. Your claim is scummy because of what your role is. You should understand this
3. You calling town "dumb/stupid" for lynching an SOP is not the best behavior
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
Why are we analyzing theme when there is no split according to Speed
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Arrowverse Mafia - DP1
Hello all. I see Skittlez SOP claim. Let's see how his behavior develops. Slight scum read due to noobiness
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Week 2 NFL Predictions 2020
OMG I FORGOT THE JAGS AND TITANS BAHAHA. I picked Titans as an FYI on espn, so 13-2
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Week 2 NFL Predictions 2020
Shit this might be my best prediction ever. Almost accurate with all scores
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Week 2 NFL Predictions 2020
12-2. Record pace here. I was also really accurate with Falcons and Cowboys. One score game. My best prediction record 
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg had died
Indeed. But let's mourn her. Powerful women figure in general. Very honorable women in general. RiP

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Ruth Bader Ginsburg had died
Rest in Peace to RBG. Thoughts and prayers. The election now gets more important. If Trump wins, expect another 6-3 Conservative house
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Arrowverse Role Madness Mafia Signups
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10K Forum Posts THREAD
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@Intelligence_06
I don't lose when I want too
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BAMF - End Game Thread
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@Mharman
Lol. I'm too fast!

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10K Forum Posts THREAD
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't lose
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BAMF - End Game Thread
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@oromagi
Thank you!
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BAMF - End Game Thread
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@Speedrace
I had that feeling too, but I pointed out that I had a solid scum read on you from the start of the game, giving me some form of town cred
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BAMF - End Game Thread
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@Speedrace
Yea I agree, but IMO I would've done the same thing as town with Oro. I think challenging other townies and discussion is good.
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BAMF - End Game Thread
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@drafterman
A solid play would have been to lay low a bit and see what lynch naturally develops and then hammer.

In this specific case, oro provided the alternative with Mharman.

Yea I was thinking the same thing, but I think the problem that comes with that is that to go randomly inactive and lay low after being somewhat prominent would be extremely fishy, especially after my town read of Mhar. I think if I did not capitalize on Croc I would've been lynched. But you are right, that would've been the best strategy. I also had no clue if Croc investigated me, so I wanted to get rid of Croc if it came to that. 
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