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@Mharman
Hey knowing your personality, I think you are Sugondese. Am I right
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:) thank you. I hope I am not, it's just one less user a mod has to worry aboutI like having you around, Dudz. You're not "in our hair". It's just the subject matter, in this case.
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@DebateArt.com
@bsh1
We dont use the hangout often...I would say to remove the pin from Offiicial DART Hangout and I will create one called Official DART Discord
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@RM
No you attacked people that was not justified by COC. A defense is leiniant to the COC. Plus you were warned by bsh
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@Analgesic.Spectre
I hope your experience on the site get's better :)
If you want to talk to me, just let me know. I may be 15, but I have a brain and I can engage in chats always. I tend to stay here because my forum friends from DDO were here, but I am open to new people so just ask. i don't bite
*bites into skin*
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@Analgesic.Spectre
Most of the dialogue on here is inane banter, which is fine in portioned amounts, but tedious and pointless in large doses. The rest of the dialogue tends to be shallow opinions, which are poorly masqueraded as intellectual thought. It seems like I run into the same stupid cliches and debunked talking points, whenever I post something outside of the box, or when I post something with a large amounts of references. It is disappointing to think and write heavily on a topic, only for some idiot dickhead to post a drive-by response. This was also a problem on DDO, but at least you had enough non-idiot dickheads to post worthwhile things.
I think this is fair enough to say. Some posts are half baked skim responses to what people say. I have to admit my flaws, I do tend to do this, however it is the essence that I am simply helping the website and trying to get the popularity running so people post. There are so many dry spots during the day, so some drama and things really boost activity a lot. I think you are fair it is excessive, but some people crave attention like that, and some do it to simply get this site active
I thought most people came to sites like these to have interesting, intellectual conversations, of which the vast majority of people aren't capable of having irl (not to mention the social blowback). Instead, it's now clear that the majority of people on here (not all, to be fair) are here to waste everyone's time with half-baked posts, shallow opinions, inane activity, mafia and petty drama. Again, these things, to a small degree, help to keep a site interesting. But when the site is saturated in all this garbage, it defeats the purpose of a site like this. Nowadays, I think that a large proportion of the site has poor social skills, and the reason they come here is because irl socialising is too hard for them.
To be fair, the last people on DDO were people that were forum, drama based people that wanted to continue the legacy of this website. I'm sure that intellectuals will come on the site by a year or so, but give it time. new website, and we already seeing a boom to a certain degree. not a boom you may like, but it is something that gives us hope. Plus Mike is the GOAT. He works hard on the site. I have very good people skills. I see frustration in people and can read it in an instant. I can start up convos and topics on this site. But I agree, some people lack social skills irl
I'm also not a fan of this moderation. Bsh seems to be doing a much better job, and I haven't seem much of Castin, but the mods before that were dreadful. I got banned out of nowhere, with no explanation, nor specification of how long it would be. I can't remember exactly how long it was (because I just stopped caring), but I remember attempting to log in like a month and a half after it happened, and was honestly shocked to see it work. That's poor moderation. This kind of incompetent moderation happen with other people, too. I've also seen some bloody inconsistent moderation, too, wherein some people have nine lives, whereas others have a gun to their head at all times. Airmax wasn't perfect, but he sure as hell was better than this, and it makes you realise how often he did get it right.
If this is true, then I have some troubling thoughts now... I think he is a better mod to be fair. I have not been on bsh's bad side, but he got a ton of shit for his modding and kinda changed his philosophy. His bans now have been justifiable.
I might get an ironic banning, or perhaps this post will be deleted, but either way I don't care and it will only prove my points
I don't think you'll get banned.
Your not irrational nor are you insulting anyone. I'm sure he will listen to what you are saying. You and him agree on Drama and stuff too with the same point of it being in excess
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@blamonkey
@breakingamber
Waluigi has 2 votes, cmon guys
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@bsh1
It's not a holiday without the family argument
I'll be inactive for a bit over holidays. It is only 1 day of me after today of this. Then I am basically out of your hair that entire week bc of social life, studying, etc.
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@Plisken
This isn't a call out. I tried my best NOT TO. This is for future cases
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@Castin
This forum is to discuss
A) The line between Call Out/Threat vs Defending Yourself
B) What makes up the line
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@Castin
I am stating fmpov that if someone calls out you out and you defend yourself by attacking back(not severly harrassment or anything like that), then it should not be looked into as an insta ban for the defender for they triggered YOU to retaliate
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@Plisken
Did I say I was? No
I was discussing a scenario to define the difference
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@thett3
no fuck u
(joke joke)
no seriously i have a setup system that actually works with mafia
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@Wylted
@blamonkey
@Mharman
@breakingamber
@waluigi
So your saying u know this is a mislynch on wylted even tho we don't know whos town
scum sclip
unvote vtl waluigi\
nice round my boys...get him
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We need to set a line here between defending yourself and a threat...
I think it is time to get a clear consensus what is a threat vs what is defending yourself, and how we can help mods determine bans or no bans, etc.
Let's talk. This is important
Here are my lines
Defending Yourself
If someone initiates a fight and says something offense or disliking to you, you fire back at them with aggression
Ex:
Stoopid1 "Hey @stoopid2, dude your a cunt for saying that."
Stoopid2: "Stfu u bitch ur annoying"
Stoopid1: "Ur a squeaker liar"
Stoopid2: "You are liar and then (state point)"
Call Out
Call outs are initiated attacks on a person when they did nothing directly toward the person
Ex:
DebaterGuy1: "@DebaterGuy2. You are a hypocrite and a bitch cunt"
DebaterGuy2: "Lol, I never talked shit bro y u on my back"
DebaterGuy1: "You are a scumbag titty shit
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@bsh1
@RM
I take what you said as thread trying to get me to leave the site or get banned. You said I'll start with Supa and his bullies. I have never bullied you ever. That is a THREAT to me and my peace threatening mod action.
And btw, bitch please. I have a clean state. I don't threaten people. i am 15 year old. Go after someone your own age before worrying about me:)
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@Mharman
Thats what happens when you shut down Zeke and Amari bc u have a should be pro bowler. Dak is not that good
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@Castin
@Raltar
"If I'm ever banned, please initiate a very large hyper-dramatic public thread demanding answers. Infer that whatever answer you get is a lie. Then accuse the mods of stealing your sandwich. Thank you in advance." -Raltar
[Source]
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@Fallaneze
No because there is no bots nor any real crazies
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@Raltar
Very true. But to a certain degree, some people would believe they WOULD do better
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@Castin
I think it is just me and others don't see eye to eye
If someone in real life called me a cunt I wouldn't care and just laugh it off or not care, let alone the internet
I would honestly laugh if someone called me a cunt over the internet. The first response was me laughing bc I thought it to be funny
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@RM
You make a fair case. I'll try to organize it better so that scenario does not happen with someone else intuitive
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@Castin
Yes it was a direct attack and I am not denying that. I don't see the legitimacy of taking down a post for a stupid word that was written by someone over the internet
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@Castin
I can't wait until one day I say something so dumb and so insane that it will end up being a quote on here
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@drafterman
Which forum was it though that would mark it as unruly
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IRISH CHICAGO: In the Chicago Fire, the rumor was Mrs. O'Leary's (Irish) cow knocked over a lantern and got the barn on fire and she couldn't put it out, causing the city to go into the flames. That is a cover up story to the actual fact that big businesses and rich Germans were polluting the air causing a dry summer and a fire to spew that was not started by O'Leary
BLACKS-AMERICANS: We have blamed blacks back then for stealing our childrens purity, increase in crime. Even today, we tend to scapegoat them for gang violence
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@drafterman
Oh cmon my guy. If some random dude over the internet called you a cunt would you REALLY want the post deleted versus someone saying that to you head onYes. They are different. But they are still both directed attacks.
It could be me being thick skinned on the internet because idrc about it, but I think people would brush off someone calling them a cunt
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@Castin
Your right. We do the trendy stuff because we want to be social with people and relate, causing friendships
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Your not reading it right. I'm using examples of spacegoats in history. People will find someone else to blame for their problems
@RM
Also idc u blocked me...but it's annoying af when u @ me after u block me when i can't @ back
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@drafterman
??? Can you elaborate this part???Dude. Actually read the thread. The argument isn't that the post is fine, it's that it's being kept as "evidence."
I am sorry but what the fuck. In the 1st page you literally said nothing. I could not find anything anywhere expect now that says "EVIDENCE"
A personal attack is saying something more in depth like, "Your a fucking fat whale shithead." That is more of a direct attack than calling someone a cunt because it is A) One word, B) vaguely describing someone. If I called someone an asshole or just said "Bitch.", it is not a direct threatThere is no minimum word requirement here.
Calling someone a "cunt" versus calling someone a "fuckface dumbass fat retard" has a difference
Then what are you suggesting? what other mod action are you wanting to take for thisDELETE THE POST
LINK ME TO THE POST WHERE YOU SAID THAT BC U DID NOT SAY THAT NOR APPLY IT EITHER(caps for more attention
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@bsh1
+1
I don't believe I ever said that. I don't delete posts because I am not in the business of censoring people, because it has been indicated to me that that was not what the community desired, and because the poster was punished--there doesn't seem to be much to gain from deleting the post. It's not causing anymore harm just sitting there than it did when Castin read it, unlike a post which doxxes or includes a link to a pornographic website, for example.
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@Castin
]Well, it seems to be moderation that is blamed for people not being happy.
Humans will blame other people for something that is their fault when it is their fault in the first place
Historic examples are the Jews to the Germans, 1800s blacks to the Americans, and in Chicago, Irish to the rest of the population
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??? Can you elaborate this part???They did see wrong in the post. You aren't paying attention. It's kept here not because it was fine but as "evidence" because bsh1 now imagines him as being in an episode of CSI or some shit.
I'm not talking about banning anyone. Again, you're not paying attention.
By this post, I can assume you are angry that the fact no mod action was taken
It was a personal attack against a user with no other content whatsoever. It is a violate of the CoC with no mitigating factors. Unequivocally. It should be deleted.
A personal attack is saying something more in depth like, "Your a fucking fat whale shithead." That is more of a direct attack than calling someone a cunt because it is A) One word, B) vaguely describing someone. If I called someone an asshole or just said "Bitch.", it is not a direct threat
This is a separate issue from banning anyone.
Then what are you suggesting? what other mod action are you wanting to take for this
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@Castin
To a mild degree, he has a point. When someone big wants a leniency in modding, the community slowly trends to favor the leaning or whatever side the popular is on
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This forum is simply over reacting to "cunt." There is no reason to get so annoyed at moderation here for seeing no wrong in the post.
If the post said. "Your a fucking cunt face shit mcgee," then you can say it's bannable, but one word alone will never be enough to ban someone beside words like the n-word or a homophobic term
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@Castin
No one will ever be happy with a bunch of hard headed people on one site
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@DebateArt.com
We dont use the hangout often...I would say to remove the pin from Offiicial DART Hangout and I will create one called Official DART Discord
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@bsh1
I was too busy to read some of the MEEPs, what was the vote on the subject at hand
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