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@coal
The reason is because there seems to be a pattern where Luna/TUF is giving antag and justification for being the antag. example; "You are Player A, player A did ____ to Player B, but Player B fucked Players A wife."
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There would be no reason for a GF to claim lynchproof. If warren is scum, that means he is not a godfather. Warren's justifications is not stated well and has a weak link to it
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@ILikePie5
Ok, so if whiteflame is a town cop in your eyes, why am I still in your top 3 scum? A cop and a miller would exist in this same game. Especially if both are un cc'd. Your logic of putting me in your top 3 makes no sense if I am an un CC'd miller where an un CC'd cop exists
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@warren42
I don't like Lynchproof claims in general when it comes to mafia. I think it can be easily used by mafia to justify not going through with the lynch, especially 1x lynchproof. Also your role isn't affiliated toward town. I have seen games where scum has a 1x lynchproof or a deathproof til a certain day
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@ILikePie5
I have no intention too when I have not caught up on the DP
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Why did we put coal at L-1. Wtf. Do you want scum to get an easy lynch
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More catching up because COVID is making me lose track of time.
I started watching One Punch Man, seems Mid. Sorry Luna
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@Danielle
Please show where I said black people who mooch off the system. Anyone can mooch off the system. This is not a race issue. Where it is more prevalent where mooching occurs is where I will be most inclined to site. In Chicago, that is where I see it the most from my experiences. If I lived in a different state, would it be different based on perspective?
You are putting words into mouth I have never said. I have said that the pathway to citizenship should be easier. I've also maintained firm that illegal aliens should not be offered the same benefits as a middle class American, who puts their taxes into the government. I don't think they should be deported, but they are illegal and NOT citizens and thus should not receive the same benefits given to the citizens. This is what most countries believe, in fact you go to prison for such crimes.
I said there should be stricter requirements for unemployment. You need to show full evidence of an attempt to get a job and the reason you declined. You also need to show what you did with the money with evidence. People become ultimately lazy when they receive handouts and lose motivation.
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@ILikePie5
That would also mean we would have to known there was no cops in this game, but with JOAT abilities such as framer and lawyer, it is obviously used to manipulate a cop, same with me being a miller, there is no way I think WF is scum
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That also means I don't rule out that a GF could be in the game, so take WF results with a grain of salt
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Which also means Oromagi should be confirmed unless the scum team is oromagi and whiteflame and they are big braining, but with me being a Miller, there needs to be a cop in this game. I also note that MisterChris did not have a role cop as his joat, so it could be possible that wf is a role cop. But an un CC'd cop is extremely strong
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@whiteflame
So that confirms you are not Paranoid, which is good. Also scum lost their JOAT Lawyer, so note that. Don't rule out Pie yet, but right now you are a strong town read
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@n8nrgmi
Please take the time to look at this political compass. Please tell me how two separate ideologies on two separate sides can be co-exisiting. You can say Bottom Right radicals, but you'll see the same amount of those as a Radical Auth Leftist
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@Greyparrot
Exactly lmao. This has to be the dumbest thing I've ever heard
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I don't think n8nrgmi has ever been exposed to a Political Compass before
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@n8nrgmi
Libertarians are not Radical Republicans. Have you ever seen the Political Compass?
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@Danielle
Please define how an area of Chicago being more in poverty than other areas is racist. The same people in Mississippi and West Virginia mooch off the middle class just as much as low poverty places. This isn't a race issue.
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Also it looks like it's protag that Lunatic questions the morals and antag that are justified by Lunatic
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So I was right about Chris. I did say character wise I feel that Chris and oromagi were my top two suspects. At first I was going to question Mikal for trying to draw away the lynch onto Pie, but he is town.
I will await oromagi and who he motivated
I will await oromagi and who he motivated
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It's simple you either
a) think im telling the truth and want to keep me alive
b) think im telling the truth and want to policy lynch me
c) think im lying and want to lynch me
a) think im telling the truth and want to keep me alive
b) think im telling the truth and want to policy lynch me
c) think im lying and want to lynch me
If you chose B, if you believe that lynching out of policy is beneficial, I will have no issue scum reading you
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I'm going to say it now. I have no problems lynching myself today or tomorrow out of policy, but when it comes into late game, it will be too late to do such a thing and I will not support a policy lynch in late game where we need to analyze what info we are given from the NP and behavior.
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Either you lynch me the next DP or you do so now, but I don't think we have enough to lynch me now
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I have no problem lynching me now as I serve no utility to town in anyway and am neg utility, but if we do wanna policy lynch me, the earlier is ultimately the better
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@Speedrace
I don't think you should blindly trust Miller claims and hard town read someone for it. You have to analyze behavior + the way they claimed it. To hard town someone for claim alone as Miller to me isn't the best thing.
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@MisterChris
If you are town, I really don't see how you can justify the Grinches antag. In my PM, it justifies the bad.
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@whiteflame
I'm fine with either Oromagi or Chris or Pie
Unvote VTL Chris
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If you are gambler and like to gamble, I would definitely put some money on the Bucs. I believe they could win as well if there defense does well and it's Tom Brady, and Tom Brady is the GOAT. It could be a nice +146 money
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The Super Bowl is the Chiefs and Bucs. I usually do a playoff prediction, but I was honestly 100% right with my predictions this year (yes I even had the exact SB and got everything in the playoffs right). Ultimately, I believe the Chiefs win
Chiefs have a more effective offense that flows, a mobile and flexible and better QB. Mahomes has been there and done it, so he has the experience. The Chiefs defense is better as well, and I think the core of TB is emerging in the secondary. While I am not going to rule out Tom Brady and think this will be a much better game than 2020 Super Bowl, I think the Chiefs new, young, and explosive offense is going to dominate over the Bucs
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@Username
Capitalism itself is the only truly success economic system in America. While Europe has socialist policies, they have smaller populations. America has the 3rd largest population.
Then with communism, well, do I need to even explain myself?
Then with communism, well, do I need to even explain myself?
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@ILikePie5
Well depending on what version of the Grinch, it could either be TV or Movie
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@ILikePie5
Yes, but what is so inverse about movies and tv shows in a regular game where you can tell the difference between scum and town based on that besides evidence. There is nothing opposite of these two to justify Movies vs TV as inverse
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@ILikePie5
Fair point. I just feel that this lynch from you isn't genuinely about the current theme, as it is testing your theme theory, which I have disproven.
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@ILikePie5
I am catching up and right now my top 3 suspects are Chris, oromagi, and Pie. If Chris and oromagi are town, I will scum read Pie. For now I am going to analyze the two claims.Good at least you have 2 of the people I’m willing to lynch in your list.Chris and oromagi's claims worry me. Oromagi's claim is unlike Speed, as the Antag of KK is the protag if CK. There has not been anyone who has claimed a movie ---> show in this game. This is the oddityI got tired of saying this to Oro.Chris's character to me can not be justified with his action. I think most peoples PMs are structured as "I did a shit thing, but blah blah justification for the shit thing. For the Grinch, how do you justify his actions. There is no way you can.Haven’t watched the Grinch so can’t comment. I’ve said I’m willing to lynch Chris because of the fact that the Grinch could be a protagonist. Combine that with Oro’s weird protagonist antagonist character, if one is scum the other is likely scum.With Pie, I have him behaviorally as scum. The activity thing is one, but the other reasons is his SUDDEN shift of the theme in DP1. He has no evidence besides claims, and I even say that is flawed if scum were to have already fake claimed.Why would you fake claim your show when you can just claim the antagonist/villain from it, which is what the working theory was for most of the game until I came up with another theory. Either way it doesn’t matter. We need concrete information for further thematic analysis tomorrow.
I realize this and I have countered your statement in fairly recent posts
He seems to be set on testing his hypothesis on DP1 and using that on someone who doesn't fit the theme. This drastic shift led him from going to Speed, to going to Chris and now Oromagi. While I don't think he is wrong, he could be leading a mislynch based on his own reasons. In fact he is quoted saying he'd lynch Chris to test his theory. In actuality, I think Pie is more behaviorally scum.I came to my theme after various claims were revealed and no one dug deeper when I briefly mentioned it earlier. And my vote is on Chris not Oro, though I’m willing to lynch him too because it likely indicates Chris’s affiliation.
I get that, but in my honest opinion, it seems like your lynching Chris because it's most likely that you wanna "test" your theory versus his claim itself
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Versus a theme of antag v protag, it could would make the most logical sense for theme to be Protag v Antag in the IDEAL game of mafia. But this is Inverse Reality, meaning the reverse reality.
tldr; the theme Pie is saying too vague and not different enough to contrast each other to make the theme very obvious and his theme does not relate to the title of the game and it's inversity
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Also to note, the theme is stated to be "very easy." This is called inverse reality for a reason. I don't see stark differences between Movies and TV to consider it as Inverse or different to reality
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@ILikePie5
Also the Grinch is a movie, so your theory would be wrong. You first targetted Speed for not fitting the claim, and now you want to push a lynch off a theory? It seems like you are looking to draw a mislynchYes which is what makes it a theory. But at the same time another theory that we had as a town would likely be correct. As for Speed he fits the antagonist theory and the movie theory, so as of now he’s in the clear. I’ve already said I’m willing to lynch any of Polar, Chris, Oro, Warren, and you to get information going into tomorrow for better theme analysis. Who are you going to vote for because I’m not an option with less than 12 hours left with 2/3s of it being probably with zero activity cause sleep.
Yes but you are lynching Chris off the fact that you want to test your theory versus what the consensus is saying what the theme split is. I want to know why behaviorally you are voting for Chris. I may have missed it, so if I did, please link
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I am catching up and right now my top 3 suspects are Chris, oromagi, and Pie. If Chris and oromagi are town, I will scum read Pie. For now I am going to analyze the two claims.
Chris and oromagi's claims worry me. Oromagi's claim is unlike Speed, as the Antag of KK is the protag if CK. There has not been anyone who has claimed a movie ---> show in this game. This is the oddity
Chris's character to me can not be justified with his action. I think most peoples PMs are structured as "I did a shit thing, but blah blah justification for the shit thing. For the Grinch, how do you justify his actions. There is no way you can.
With Pie, I have him behaviorally as scum. The activity thing is one, but the other reasons is his SUDDEN shift of the theme in DP1. He has no evidence besides claims, and I even say that is flawed if scum were to have already fake claimed. He seems to be set on testing his hypothesis on DP1 and using that on someone who doesn't fit the theme. This drastic shift led him from going to Speed, to going to Chris and now Oromagi. While I don't think he is wrong, he could be leading a mislynch based on his own reasons. In fact he is quoted saying he'd lynch Chris to test his theory. In actuality, I think Pie is more behaviorally scum.
Between those 3, I have no preference. If a gun was to my head, I would choose oromagi. Drafterman made some key points about his character and the oddity it is. There could potentially already be an outlier with Speed, and to have another would be extremely weird. I also know Lunatic said in a game that he loved Cobra Kai and thought it was the best Netflix series, which means if the theme split is antag v protag, then that means Lunatic is simply refering to Cobra Kai.
With Pie, I have him behaviorally as scum. The activity thing is one, but the other reasons is his SUDDEN shift of the theme in DP1. He has no evidence besides claims, and I even say that is flawed if scum were to have already fake claimed. He seems to be set on testing his hypothesis on DP1 and using that on someone who doesn't fit the theme. This drastic shift led him from going to Speed, to going to Chris and now Oromagi. While I don't think he is wrong, he could be leading a mislynch based on his own reasons. In fact he is quoted saying he'd lynch Chris to test his theory. In actuality, I think Pie is more behaviorally scum.
Between those 3, I have no preference. If a gun was to my head, I would choose oromagi. Drafterman made some key points about his character and the oddity it is. There could potentially already be an outlier with Speed, and to have another would be extremely weird. I also know Lunatic said in a game that he loved Cobra Kai and thought it was the best Netflix series, which means if the theme split is antag v protag, then that means Lunatic is simply refering to Cobra Kai.
vtl oromagi
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@ILikePie5
I’m willing to go after Chris cause if my theory is true a scum could be between YYW and Chris with either Oro, Supa, or Warren as two of their accomplices. That’s per my theory of course and assuming scum would fake claim from their own show up until Chris and YYW when I revealed my theory.
Why do you insist on changing the theme split of only a theory and basing a lynch on a theory that may or may not be true. It seems like you are trying to shift the theme to cover up for your scum buddies.
Also the Grinch is a movie, so your theory would be wrong. You first targetted Speed for not fitting the claim, and now you want to push a lynch off a theory? It seems like you are looking to draw a mislynch
Also the Grinch is a movie, so your theory would be wrong. You first targetted Speed for not fitting the claim, and now you want to push a lynch off a theory? It seems like you are looking to draw a mislynch
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Sorry for the inactivity. I had some studying to do and had a watch party for Attack on Titan S4 EP8 on Discord, and let me tell you, that did not leave me in a good mood. Anyway I am going to catch up from post 600
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@RationalMadman
Libertarian Conservative Centrist. More Libertarian than Conservative
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@Username
If you read the post, I am not a extremist, I have moderate beliefs. I still think regulation is needed, but basic regulations
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@Trent0405
Yes that would be the case
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@ILikePie5
And with Chris being inactive and barely skimming DP, I know we discussed the PM's and how the bad was justified. It seems like to claim he didn't read that part and thought of a basic claim that everyone would know about good turning bad
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@ILikePie5
Well the Wiki labels him as antagonist, but he returns the gifts thus making him the protag. But not til the last 2 minutes
My concern is how tf do you justify the Grinch's behavior. My pm says the bad shit, the justifiction of the bad shit, and then the turn. How do you jusitfy the Grinch just stealing presents and fucking with people? I don't get it
My concern is how tf do you justify the Grinch's behavior. My pm says the bad shit, the justifiction of the bad shit, and then the turn. How do you jusitfy the Grinch just stealing presents and fucking with people? I don't get it
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@ILikePie5
That’s exactly what I’m saying. Forget about my theme for a second and let’s go to what we had before: Protagonists vs Antagonists. Oro claimed Johnny Lawrence that’s a Protagonist in Cobra Kai. He’s also claiming Karate Kid though where he was an antagonist. How in Neptune does this make sense
This was inaccurate and Oromagi showed you that it was inaccurate. In his first post in #47, he said that his show was Karate Kid/Cobra Kai
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@n8nrgmi
Please quote were I said that the severely disabled should not be given welfare. Please do say so
I would get rid of unemployment benefits. I am sick and tired of leeches on the South Side of Chicago using their unemployment to purchase guns and drugs to kill people. These people milk the system for personal gain. There needs to be valid proof of an attempt for an employment. It is too easy to forge these documents or lie or not even have to show evidence
Never did I say that we should cut those programs, but I simply said that expanding any of these programs is ultimately bad
I would get rid of unemployment benefits. I am sick and tired of leeches on the South Side of Chicago using their unemployment to purchase guns and drugs to kill people. These people milk the system for personal gain. There needs to be valid proof of an attempt for an employment. It is too easy to forge these documents or lie or not even have to show evidence
Never did I say that we should cut those programs, but I simply said that expanding any of these programs is ultimately bad
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@Trent0405
Freedom in the purest form is an end in and of itself. Being free to do as you please is something that you would desire for selfish reasons. In Modern Times, such as government, I genuinely believe more freedom is a means to an end and that end being a better society. I think humans ruin the idea of freedom due to their selfish desires and evil insides, which freedom is cause, but that is why I believe base rules are essential. There needs to be a balance, but ultimately if we lived in an Utopian society where people did not have evil desires, I would say freedom is the best way to operate
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I actually start to scum read Pie a bit more for this. To change the conversation of a theme that town itself decided as true is sketchy.
I also am sketchy of MisterChris's claim. While the Grinch does turn good, I also think it could be an easy fake claim for someone who wasn't paying attention. Also my PM states that my character did bad things, but then justifies the actions, then states I turned positive. How would justify the Grinch's action before turning good? He was just a fucking dick
I also am sketchy of MisterChris's claim. While the Grinch does turn good, I also think it could be an easy fake claim for someone who wasn't paying attention. Also my PM states that my character did bad things, but then justifies the actions, then states I turned positive. How would justify the Grinch's action before turning good? He was just a fucking dick
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