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@Discipulus_Didicit
there is no reason not to lynch casey now, because on the off chance she is town she extends mylo and she also just happened to falsely claim to extend mylo when cornered last game as well, so a lot of coincidences
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@Casey_Risk
good that means this is not in fact MYLO and we can easily clear the POE
VTL Casey
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@Barney
you promised to full claim today https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/11307-clash-of-clans-mafia-day-phase-1?page=14&post_number=412
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I am down to lynch her if nobody needs me to sell it but this is interesting that perhaps pie and savant were on the right track last dp and had good intuition
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@Discipulus_Didicit
scum almost won. Let's lynch casey and barney in that order. I don't want to wait another dp. I will go ahead and give a full analysis after I watch a disney movie with my son, so do not wait up but we might as well lynch casey tomorrow
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Mharman is town and my initial town read on barney was incorrect
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if luna was in a rush to start the dp and he was holding up the game then he would likely tell him before he submitted. it's actually a town slip now that I think of it
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@Discipulus_Didicit
disc you are town. Help me find second scum.
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@Casey_Risk
I am not trying to make an argument right now or lynch. I am rereading past games and dp to find the second scum. When I am ready I will, but you won't be able to respond to what I write anyway because it is not a slip you can control. It has to do with speech patterns and behavior that is just who you are and your self consciousness as scum.
We don't even need to lynch today. I just need my reads to get out
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the second one could also be whiteflame so I don't know shit. I think whiteflame needs to stop holding back though before it causes a mislynch
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@Mharman
that makes sense. I think the scum team is casey and barney. I only know for a fact casey is scum, I am not certain about Barney, but if it is not barney it is you so you should be certain
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@Barney
@whiteflame
@Mharman
@Discipulus_Didicit
so Casey is scum and you will understand why when you go to her profile and read through her stuff from the games she was town in and the ones she was scum in. We just need to find the second scum. I will definitely find them so hold off on all voting for a minute
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I don't really make mistakes at MYLO yet. I will tell you that I don't know who the second scum is, but the first scum is casey. A multi roleblock makes sense here as well because it puts us in dp2 at mylo with no information
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@Mharman
c was because I was thinking I would be the NK,
Why would you think this?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
got role locked, which scum confirms WF as far as I am concerned. No way scum block someone that hasn't claimed over a cop claim.
VTL Whiteflam
Hold off please, do we have 3 role block claims LOL, also I am reading through every one of caseys games at the moment and have a tab open to DP1 to analyze barney, whiteflame and mharman in more depth. just unvote, a second vote could start a dog pile. we have to decide to vote, together
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Who had mharman as a town read? Why would it make sense to block him?
I am reading DP and 11 pages in. I see me and pie fill decent about him when he started posting more, but he still seems to be in most scum piles unless I missed something, and upon reread I don't like Barney too much.
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WHy is this pulling teeth LOL, just say who you gave gifts to
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@Barney
@Discipulus_Didicit
I need you guys input. any results? also barney do you have a role that would explain why whiteflames investigation would not work on you?
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It looks very opportunistic for mharman to do a CC at Mylo.
I have 2 theories until we can bet the information.
mharman and whiteflame is scum and their is an attempt to bus here so mharman can coast until the end. or it is just mharman who is scum and was being opportunistic. I do also consider the possibility that one was roleblocked and perhaps something else happened, so I say we get barney to full claim and then we make a decision
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@Casey_Risk
we should probably get Barney's role also to see if it can explain the roleblock of whiteflame
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Okay everyone, lets not vote at all because scum can quickvote and time it to win the game, but I think we need full claims from mharman and whiteflame and if either one of them is town they should be cool with this
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@whiteflame
mharman is claiming he was role blocked. You might should address this
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@Mharman
if we have 2 role blocks this is odd, because why would scum whiteflame lie about getting role blocked if he knew his team roleblocked somebody?
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@Mharman
Please explain why you are town confirmed. I don’t get it.
You don't have to buy it. I don't care, but no scum would hammer somebody claiming super saint. I feel like I should have let somebody else hammer to narrow my own POE though on second thought
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@whiteflame
'm guessing that your goal, then, is to only neighborize one person and get a result on them alone in DP3? Seems a bit long-sighted since it also puts off confirmation of your role.
That was always my plan unless it felt like I would be a potential mislynch. I did consider doing it to a scum read, because I see zero town motivation to accept a join request this early but I also felt like I could just be scum reading who accepted when it would fly above their head that I wanted them to decline the invitation
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I need theories. Who is intimidated by pie or who was dumb enough to think anyone but me town read him after the lynch?
I don't know maybe they anticipated pie being widely town read after that.
Barney is flying under the radar here as well.
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@Casey_Risk
Why tho? I believe you when you say that hammering Pie basically town confirmed you, but I don't see what benefit there is to waiting to use your ability.
recruiting scum makes them more powerful. At best I can town confirm somebody but not until DP4 which I am skeptical that we make it to and I can recruit and investigate on NP3, so I can still potentially be useful in that respect
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@Casey_Risk
I opted out of neighborizing anyone. I don't intend to do it for the time being
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unvote
I guess we can give it a bit more time but there is no excuse for this dp to be more than a few hours long unless we have a bunch of information to talk about
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everybody give relevant information and then lets do the most obvious thing
vtnl
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That is an odd selection for the NK. I feel like his death pretty much town confirms me though, because honestly no way would scum hammer a claimed super saint. Savant is now town confirmed as well.
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@Double_R
I don’t think it’s that they don’t agree with it, it’s that they don’t benefit from it. RCV would make it more so that candidates have to appeal to moderate voters, which is not how most of them got elected. It’s not realistic to expect that the people who benefit from a system will advocate to change that system.
I didn't get into it in my video but this is wrong, it would actually reward extremists. We mostly have moderates that win elections now, but this sort of voting is better for extremists.
Right now an outright communist needs to vote for a moderate if he wants a chance to win and for his vote to count. Under a different system we would all vote for those who are ideologically similar first and o ly as a 3rd 4th or 5th choice then elect the compromise candidate. We already have primaries for the 2 major parties which forces voters and the various factions to compromise, which normally results in putting a moderate on the ticket.
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@Double_R
Respond to the arguments I posted in the video above
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@TheUnderdog
Finally, I put together a response
https://youtu.be/I6LAQGjZGSg
https://youtu.be/I6LAQGjZGSg
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No this makes pie a strong town read in my book. he went from null to town with this
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dude pie you should have volunteered to be lynched. I would have self lynched if that was my role and I was town
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@Savant
Would you have voted if Pie hadn't challenged you like that?
If he claimed anything other than super saint I would not have hammered
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@ILikePie5
Whoever hammers me dies with me
If you burn, I burn.
I love you Romeo
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It literally makes no sense to claim super saint instead of just having some scum lynch you
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@ILikePie5
okay I forgot what that is, does it skip the NP?
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@Savant
I will pop on at 5pm and make a decision. If you are passionate about Pie being the lynch than you need to put together something to convince me. right now arguments like
1. he was sus of WF before you were
or
2. He is placing votes in the same places as you in exchange for getting your claim
just isn't going to work.
I don't need hard evidence, i just need to think there is at least a 40% chance he is scum
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@ILikePie5
Brown version of church. It’s basically a cult. I’ll tell you more about it later
Please do. I love that stuff and study cults, though I never get the chance to talk about them here
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@ILikePie5
Anyways. 420 is going to be modkilled and he’s obviously town. Who instantly sussed him earlier today? Savant.
I legit want to lynch savant. I am trying to control the impulse right now. What did he claim anyway, I forget?
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@420-1776
You said that 10 years ago, you could beat up Mike Tyson. That's why I said that
I could then and even that he is older I can. This is just a statement of fact, not be trying to be tough. By the way I also admit he would destroy me in a boxing match even now
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Anyway, I have an argument due. After I research it and post a video I will check in. I believe I have time to do that before the DP ends and yes I am willing to hammer pie rather than hold up the game. I do not have a town read on him. I might not do it because I like the ideal of a VTNL, but I am down depending on the results of the coin I flip when I hop back on
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@420-1776
I think Wylted is a fat guy who brags about being a tough macho man while weighing about 220 lbs.
1. I am clinically obese. I weigh almost 200 pounds at 5ft 6in
2. I have never once bragged about being tough or macho. Sometimes I behave in a tough or macho way, but that is not my fault. I was raised around toxic masculinity
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