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If you have an informed minority and they are ambitious than voting isn't going to be random
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@Owen_T
Place your vote on somebody, anybody while your here. It is plurality lynching so ideally we get at least 4 votes on somebody, anybody really just so at least one town member definitely helped decide the lynch outcome
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@Owen_T
Can you just full claim

Also just so the game isn't in scum hands

VTL owen
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Also python is probably more important for offensive security. 

I think bash scripting would probably go further and be more useful to me if I decide to stay defensive and considering the criminal record I assume red teaming jobs which I prefer would be significantly harder to get. They are already hard enough for people with none of that baggage.
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@Savant
Maybe read the code before jumping on a lynch train? Aren't you in IT? You can ask ChatGPT to explain it or something if you don't know Python.
I learn python next semester. Only a basic level of understanding is necessary for cyber security. Also I didn't vote you at all.
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This is the rare situation where a volunteer would go a long way.
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@Bullish
That is actually fair. He posted code also to prove a math equation for some reason
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@Lunatic
Fuck it let's all state whether we have a shitty role or not.

Mine is not shitty. I am popcorning to you lunatic
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If somebody is a vanilla just admit it so we can lynch you
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Since you still get to vote after death does anybody want to admit having a useless role and volunteer to be lynched . This might be a unique situation where a volunteer is best, despite the fact volunteering also pretty much town confirms the person
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@ILikePie5
Okay I am figuring out the rules as we go. If we can get 4 town reads out of it than I am down but we need some discussion on this before deciding.
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I don't like the ideal of a mass claim after seeing what earth revealed. That is something where we can have a lot of confidence in a lynch and I wouldn't be surprised if we have more roles that can give us a lot of confidence that a lynch is scum and if we put these people up as easy pickings for the scum team than it will give us less confidence in our lynch choices
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Damn there goes my theory 

Unvote
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If you can't beat em,
The funny thing is that one of the narratives in Russia as a result of this is that Putin is Trump's puppet and he is getting a lot of pushback on this
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Poor white trash was definitely the most frequent movie we watched though. 

I don't think the movie ever got popular so I am not sure if it would be easy to find. Kids does have a large cult following but I wouldn't recommend that one.
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@whiteflame
There is a movie called "poor white trash" with Jamie Presley that me and my gang would watch every other day. Also office space for some reason. They would watch kids which I hated so I made myself scarce during that stupid movie. I think it's only enjoyable when you are high and I never got high .
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I agree with WyIted,
I have to agree with whiteflame on this point. 

Also I think the real divide here is things relating to the theory of debate vs rules of debate, and we should lynch earth.
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We get votes after we die etc. to balance out the high scum number I think
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Three
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how Europe started a trade war with the United States
Canada charges a 270% tarrifs on American dairy, attacking American farmers.


For tarrifs auto

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2025/02/08/eu-unilateral-auto-tariff-offer-to-us-might-shelter-its-car-makers/
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@whiteflame
Sorry that environmental factors made you that way. I support your right to get married.
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@Barney
Shit WTF. Please delete post 137 and 138 for the integrity of the game. Thanks
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Next person to post is Gae
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how Europe started a trade war with the United States
Let's ignore the fact that Europe mooches off of America's military might be using 1% of there GDP for military while the United States subsidizes them and as a result uses 25% of it's GDP on the military despite zero benefit for doing so. 

Europe has been attacking America for years with a 10% tarrifs on America's auto industry while we only tarrifs heir cars at 2%. Trump is just trying to equal the playing field here. If it increases costs, blame Europe for attacking American business with high tarrifs first. 

Europe also has a VAT tax. Meaning if you import a car from Europe to drive it will cost 30% in taxes for you (a tarrifs essentially) while a European who has an American car exported will just pay like the 2.5% tarrif.

All this media claiming Trump is imposing a tarrifs and it might cause a trade war are lying. These are retaliatory tarrifs that have been harming American workers by nations who mooch off of our military might and who are supposed to be allies.


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@ILikePie5
Democrats not standing and clapping for a brain cancer survivor is a disgrace
I wonder if you were watching the same stream as me because that seemed to bother a lot of people in the chat I was watching.
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@ILikePie5
Just from a quick Google. Disclosing is disclosing your arguments to the other team and ballots is literally just voting. 
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Earth and Owen are scum. Game solved. Let's just go through the motions now
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@ILikePie5
Ballot has to be scum. It doesn't fit the theme of debate theory/theories.

Unvote VTL earth
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@Vader
Yes I think a role that rewarded him for support and kept him away from anything important while simultaneously making him feel important and useful.

He was good at advertising for me which helped me win. He probably secured 3 or more votes which was huge TBH
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@Vader
The solution is honestly to bring in judges who don't understand debate at all and only they get to judge. It would fix all of that, if the debate community was interested in fixing that anyway
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His last 3 threads are on the front page by the way and you can see genius takes such as

"Let's annex Canada to increase GDP and population"

Or 

"RFK should take the MMR vaccine"

Keep in mind that RFK most likely had the MMR vaccine when he was 5 and it's good for life
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@Vader
Did I advocate for that? Was he under a different user name when I advocates for that?
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@Vader
From what I have seen it looks like it could be annoying. I do watch debates often but the more loose formatting seems more fair on stuff meant for viewers. The drawback is it leans heavier on rhetoric but its more entertaining and seems like it would be more fun to engage in than what I have seen at debate tournaments.
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Me: Why do I care?  I'm a capitalist; I want to save money (and if that means getting rid of expensive appeals, then so be it).  My money is more valuable to me than stranger's lives (even if they're innocent).  I don't care if they're black.  I don't care if they're white.


Let's ignore the fact this idiot doesn't know what a capitalist is, or a socialist for that matter. Does this sound like an argument that took a lot of thought or effort and needed to be made into a thread?



Either you agree with me or you're a socialist.  I'm fine with either option; but be honest and upfront.  I'm willing to have innocent people get killed to save money (because I'm a capitalist).  Disagreeing with that is inheritely socialist because they value human life way more than I do relative to money.
So capitalist equals fiscally conservative and socialist equals valuing human life over money?

Before you think you can educate this guy on what a capitalist or socialist us, realize that he won't learn anything and he will continue to make stupid strawman arguments based on the same misunderstandings over and over. 

He is either a retard and should be banned or a troll and should also be banned from the site or at least prevented from creating threads
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Best Korea lowers the average IQ on the site as does shila and there are more members that post infrequently enough where it doesn't matter too much but I have to ask what are we trying to accomplish here. 

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This is off topic but I feel like we can be more honest here. There is likely 3 or 4 people that need banned on the site because of how much they lower the quality of the site. 

Can anyone tell me if this kid is trolling or genuinely retarded. And keep in mind every post he makes flips between strawmanning typical conservative arguments to straw manning typical liberal arguments. 


Site retention is a real thing and while this shit might get buried on a larger forum it's front and center here and nobody wants to see it.
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I guess whiteflame has a more technical knowledge of debate than most of us and so hopefully he can start peculating on theme splits. Not sure if anyone else or who else does though.

Just from what I noticed of whiteflame scum play. He is entirely too honest as scum so regardless of affiliation he would probably be foolish enough to be honest about his thoughts on theme split either way, so we can likely trust them
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@Owen_T
I don't know whether to town read this or consider it incredibly scummy. I'm leaning towards the ladder.
Just like me he said prior to this game activity level and interest would be lower than normal. I doubt that part is affiliation indicative
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@Owen_T
I am topicality 

Also I guess nominate savant. I don't know who is left though so just start from bottom of list provided in OP and go up to the first person that hasn't gone yet if I am wrong
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@Savant
VTL EARTH FOR CLAIM
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So does nominate do the same thing as lynch?

Somebody is going to have to pretend I am a complete retard and really break this down one rule at a time for me. I guess I can have chat GPT attempt to do it but it's not good with logic
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@Savant
WTF are you talking about about? Nobody wants to see the code just explain what it means
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@Lunatic
Not a fan either. I also had another game where I didn't know my scum partners and that was a bit annoying. Anyway somebody popcorn to me before I go to sleep and hold up the momentum for like 8 hours
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RFK changes on the Measels vacciene
He probably had the MMR vaccine when he was like 5 years old.
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trump is at best causing dysfunction right now. how can you MAGAts disagree?
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@Double_R
Let me guess... he's not against vaccines, he just questions whether they're safe and effective.

Am I close?
He thinks some are safe and effective and others need more research or aren't. 

He supports the current schedule of vaccines for children which is what the media keeps lying about with him. 

Just like the CDC he approves of some vaccines and thinks others are ineffective.
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@Lemming
American and European values have a number of similarities,
It is not bad to have them as allies, even if they increase their military influence.
I am seeing a lot of people arrested for memes in those European countries and some shenanigans to keep anti establishment politicians out of power after they get the needed votes to get in. I am not sure these countries are too far from being Nazi Germany. 

Ukraine also seemed to do some anti Democratic things as well, for example censoring news stations and banning some Christian churches. 

Is this just about Realpolitik and ignoring the evil done in European nations? We certainly aren't holding any higher principles .
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@Casey_Risk
It was Barney and Owen at end of game
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@Lemming
If your are being sincere about America strength wouldn't it be more logically consistent for you to want to keep Europe weak. Europe having some power would grant them more autonomy and weaken America's influence. It wouldn't be logically inconsistent for me because I believe in non interventionism but it seems it would be for you
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@FLRW
Russia would be weaker with that extra land. It's just a bad ideal to hold all of that
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@zedvictor4
Well, recent skirmishes that the USA has started, have resulted in a total mess and a sharp exit when the going got tough.
So the USA ducks up every skirmish they get into therefore they should get into more? Explain this logic LOL
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