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@Vader
I don't get it. Why was it a problem for nas to put blood in his shoes, and more importantly why would that same logic not apply to Tony Hawk.
I don't by the insinuation it was racism either. That seems stupid. Out of all the reasons to attack a rapper who promotes violence and the general degeneracy of society,why attack him over something as innocent as putting blood in shoes?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I will go through as many of the posts I was tagged in as I can.
It was 10, and they were all one sentence long, drama queen.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
you can skip every lunatic and pie post to each other. It isn't too much when that is cut out
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@949havoc
all the people left, were signaled to months and months in advance that the United States was pulling out. They just did not give a date for strategic reasons. The ones left behind are just a victim of evolution
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disc is definitely in my scum pool. I don't even think there is a cop, tbh.
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@Lunatic
okay, let's see what happens
Unvote VtL Pie
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@ILikePie5
Thoughts on 261-262
I am not an enabler
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@Lunatic
I'd be down to lynch pie. You don't have to fight tooth and nail.
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Please NK me soon just as an act of mercy. I want to take a hiatus. My mental health is getting worse.
I actually found something I enjoyed doing and felt great about life. I had literally 8 great sales weeks in a row, and now I am doing shit this week.
This is like 4 days in a row with terrible results. I have to be careful what I say here, but I just want to die. I finally felt like I could feel good about what I do, because I am not feeding people poison that is slowly killing them, and I suck at it. I just don’t understand how I can go from being good to being shit. I am tinkering to think about how I can fix this, but I think it is unfixable and I just had massive luck the first 8 weeks.
At least replace me, once the first town member dies.
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@Earth
What the fuck did you want me to do? Say "My character is totally not Nurse Joy tee hee!"?
Just say you are charmander or some shit
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Luna usually manages to fly under my radar in general, and I've seen this kind of back and forth between him and Pie in games where both are town and where one is scum
Usually these sorts of fights are scum or null tells. Players often use them to fake like they are active, but also some people just enjoy engaging in those discussions
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I feel like you're talking from experience rather than consensus among those who lived in foster homes. I do apologize that you had to endure an abusive situation, though.
It's not that uncommon, I can tell you from many discussions with other foster youth.
the fact the focus is on 'keeping families together' and not 'ensuring children are happy, healthy, and well looked-after' is abhorrent
The second criteria would result in draconian measures so the government can mandate what is healthy, happy and well looked over
Keeping families together is a priority because foster parents often would rather rip you from your original family, than to give you back to a mentally ill mother who is normally fine, but could not afford her medication for a few months, and other such issues. Kids love their parents, and they need reassurance that the system is working to rehabilitate their parents and not to rip them away. It seems that you would like to remove that reassurance and have the state raise the family.
The reason is obvious, however: any politician that DARES to insinuate that a parent has no right to a child that they are not properly taking care of would absolutely bomb the next election
Politicians usually ignore the arena of child welfare altogether. The issue isn't that they take the wrong stance, but that they take absolutely no stance.
When it comes to social workers, my experience was very positive. I was able to get a social worker who listened to me and helped me through some of my problems. For what they couldn't do, they connected me to organizations that provided free counselling that could fill those gaps. I'm very grateful for social services for that reason.
Let me guess. Your parents opposed you cutting off your dick, so social services gave you a list of therapists who instead of challenging your delusions, embraced them and thought it was a good ideal for you to remove your dick because you internally and subconsciously hate yourself
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@Evilgenius
nope, that is a SpongeBob character
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No we are differentiating between useful and unuseful monopolies.
Competition actually helps with prices .ore than having monopolistic power. At best utilities just create economies of scale, so things can become cheaper
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@ILikePie5
As for the second game, he was playing the game drunk and claimed while so and then was forced to change his claim later.
Or he claimed to be drunk to save face and avoid being called stupid
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@Lunatic
Earth literally complied the best way he knew how, and you got caught up in semantics. His wincon statement said he was vanilla town, which also happened to be his role. Earth complied exactly as was asked and town misunderstood him and punished him for it. And the not reading his claim correctly was such a retarded reason to lynch him. I happily boarded it because I was scum, but even as scum I defended how stupid that lynch was for a bit because that's what I would have done as town. One dimensional thinking results in mislynches that you can easily just pin the blame on the mislynchee while refusing to acknowledge or grow from it at all.
Correct analysis and I gave the same analysis before his mislynch. I just tried to take action to prevent it because I had a strong town read on earth
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@Lunatic
cult up with any belief regardless of the lack of logic behind it should have been the fact that your still a fervent Trump supporter
I just hope he doesn't run in 2024. We can have a lot of anti-establishment candidates leading the ticket if Trump is not there. If he is there, only one anti-establishment candidate will lead the ticket. The people in the Trump movement could be more effective at effecting change by getting behind somebody more politically savvy, who also hates the Washington elite.
I also don't think it is a good sign that he held the reigns of the system and still lost. Without mail in, he would have sweeped, but that is not the point. He had about 20 paths to victory and some how still lost them all.
He also said the election was rigged, and when patriots thought they needed to defend the system by going to war with the riggers, Trump basically washed his hands of them.
Either the system was rigged and they responded appropriately, or it wasn't rigged and they responded inappropriately. He said it was rigged though and left his people out to dry.
Ultimately the Trump movement is not about Trump. It is about Americans hating Washington, and I hate to break it to you, but there is a possibility of a candidate who can utilize horseshoe theory to bring the far left and far right together to indefinitely hold power. If I was in a position, I would try to be that horseshoe candidate.
I can't wait until this horseshoe candidate somehow comes to power in my lifetime, and the cowering g in fear you saw the elitists during the riots will pail, by how much they cower, before heading to the gallows.
It's time corruption was ended in Washington, as well as any possibility for corruption
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@Lunatic
Don't be a royalpaladin. We've dealt with enough of them over the years and it is pretty tiring.
Other than people like me who pour over the history of DDO, you are the only one here who knows who that is. Reading her games were entertaining though, and I was excited when she came back for like 3 days during my time on DDO
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@ILikePie5
It would be anti-town to attempt to do that because you could be CCed instantly. And when you flip town as a freakin Cop wtf.
Lunatic is right and exactly why you should not lynch all liars.
We need a few all vanilla games, so town can learn behavioral analysis.
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@ILikePie5
This is not true. Wylted agrees with me.
Not really. I might be just bad at getting my point across. I have 2 distinct beliefs here.
1. Millers should not SOP claim.
2. People who claim miller on DP1 are probably about 50% to be scum. In this case I think disk is probably about 65% scum
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@Lunatic
In the case of those two characters I ecourage town to fake fake claim smartly.
I am starting to like your play style more and more. Agreed 100%.
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@Lunatic
I called him as cop dp1, and knew he was cop for a fact dp2. The more POE you give scum to work with by pressuring people for claims, the more of an advantage you give them.
I almost always want to instant claim, and so I always drop too many hints. My emotional side wants to instantly claim, and my logical side, wants to force town to put me at L1 to claim
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@ILikePie5
What are your thoughts on the mass claim
That lunatic is correct. Once you have practically half of town claimed, it is time to start discussing a mass claim.
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@ILikePie5
The problem isn’t that he claimed. It’s SOP to claim. If he claimed Miller at L-1 it’d be scummy af
See post 39 for why that is wrong.
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At first, perhaps. After a few years into dynasties and monopolies forming, it's only 1-2 generations away from nepotism and snowballed brutal advantage leading to inescapable disparity between the elite and upper class and the bottom of the spectrum in terms of what they even can possibly achieve in their lifespan given the tools, nutrition, healthcare, education etc that they have their entire childhood and adolescence.
How do you explain how everyone was pretty much a small business owner in western days. Like blacksmiths, bar owners, barbers, community banks etc.
Let's say that regulations can create monopolies and that free markets can as well. Than we have to ask.
Are monopolies actually bad (and I put oligarchy in this same class)?
How do you stop monopolies, if both regulation means every industry will definitely have a monopoly, like regional utility companies and if also free markets means that literally every industry will also have a monopoly in.
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@Lunatic
If one more person claims I am full enforcing a mass character claim this day phase regardless. Whether people follow me or not, I have little control over. But I can at least make a pretty good argument for why we should.
This Pokémon shit confuses me. I am always supportive of mass character claims in themes above my head
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@Evilgenius
Well , I’m very new to the game and I’m learning about everything now. I’m curious to know and researching on some other characters.. What’s an ENABLER? Seen that being thrown out quite a few times
It will be confusing for a bit, but you'll get it if you stick it out. Seems you have the basics down from the card game you played
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@Lunatic
Anyone with me on this? That's my vote. We either stop pushing claims now, or we mass claim.
I think we might catch scum here with a mass claim tbh. I still oppose it based on gut feeling.
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
come on bro don't be a dick
Lunatic is right. We need to show respect to each other or risk alienating the constant state of fresh blood needed to keep the game alive.
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@oromagi
So you are promising to be inactive and promising not to scum hunt. Shouldn't that make you our number one SOP lynch?
Disc is most likely scum
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@ILikePie5
If he is at L1 and about to be lynched, it is understandable to claim earlier than mylo
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I am just going to pop in to vote disc on all dps. If I am mod killed I am mod killed. Maybe I post fluff just to look active and avoid mod kill, but there are plenty of reasons to lynch him beyond POE
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@whiteflame
Yeah, I'm not particularly on board with this logic for lynching Disc. Whatever your role indicates, and I'm not sure what that is, the Miller is an SOP claim by common practice. You can disagree with that practice, but lynching him over it just seems like reaching to me.
It being a policy lynch, is only partially because nobody should SOP claim it. It should be an SOP lynch on dp1 though. Miller claims in later DPs should only be done when aided by behavior analysis.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
"I agree with this in principle, in practice however this particular group of players is stupid enough to think it is an sop so I am kinda forced to conform in case I am copped "
See my post where I point out the 1/8 chance of that happening
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Plus my role does not make sense if there is a cop in a game this small. Just lynch him
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Miller is not an SOP claim. It is a scum claim or retard town claim. Thi k about the logic behind claiming a vanilla role that needs to draw the NK.
1. They lose the ability to draw the NK
2. They are a convenient mislynch at lylo mylo
3. It is a convenient fake claim for scum
Now think about the tard logic for claiming
1. "Derp, a cop might investigate"
Literal 1/8 chance of that happening in the np, plus cops are usually killed early or if you weren't a tad and drew the NK like you were supposed to than it isn't an issue anyway. Plus you may be town read early, meaning you will not get investigated anyway, destroying the benefit of claiming.
2. "Derp could be a mislynch if scum result at mylo"
Nope, at mylo and lylo, we should be extremely skeptical of results. Plus the same exact conversation will happen at mylo/lylo about the believability of your claim. So you are in the same position and people are stuck relying on behavioral reads anyway.
Don't accept either thing town. If this is tad logic, disc is a tad and a liability to town. If it isn't tad logic, that makes disc scum
VTL DISC
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I would like to hear more about the experience of evil genius as well.
VTL evilgenius
VTL evilgenius
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@ludofl3x
if something has 1 in a billion chance of happening. It should occur in about 1 in a billion situations.
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Rm, history has proven you wrong. Laissefaire allows anyone to compete. Now you have regulations making it take 1 billion to bring a drug to market, squeezing everyone but billionaires out. Regulations mean it takes even more than that to start manufacturing cars, which only helps big car manufacturers like Ford and Chevy.
So every single example in history contradicts that absurd notion you stated.
Anyone with a 3 digit IQ, should know that more ability to compete by removing unnecessary regulations, means more competition.
You ever notice in America how regional utility companies, hold monopolies. Those monopolies were created by regulations, not by a free market. Your theory is just wrong
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@Double_R
calling it a miracle you are implying a deity was behind it. So unlike the atheist, you are claiming to know what the cause is.
Calling it a miracle does not imply that. Also too many coincidences happen. We should be getting the right amount of coincidences, not too many . For example the Mayan prophecy that predicted the exact day, hour and minute that they would see their first white guy, is beyond coincidence
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@Reece101
if somebody called me that to my face, they would not be walking away
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@Polyglot
I would PM evil genius to make sure he is still active
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@zedvictor4
Let me ask you a few questions.
Liberals want economic interventionism.
Do totalitarians want control over the economy or Laisse Faire capitalism?
Liberals with the help of big tech have been pushing for censorship.
Do totalitarians censor speech?
I can keep going all day buddy. Do the policies of totalitarian states more closely resembles real Republicans like Ron Paul who want to limit government or like liberals who want to increase the size and scope of government like totalitarians do?
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@Reece101
military coups, do not necessarily lead to authoritarian states. Also you are straw manning
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@3RU7AL
you know the real criticisms are that commies are using blacks as cannon fodder, right?
You are dumb enough to think this is a race issue, are you?
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@zedvictor4
I can think of a couple of relatively totalitarian countries that masquerade as leftist.
Totalitarianism is inherently leftist.
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@3RU7AL
It drives potential revolutionaries underground.
Correct, making it impossible for any opposing academics to put together good arguments against their arguments. Meaning they become more persuasive.
And if done properly, it can prevent revolution altogether
I'd like to see some evidence of this, or at very least a theory presented as to why that might be true.
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