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@whiteflame
The evidence gathered is gathered under the assumption germ theory is true right? So if something new is discovered, the theory is made to fit into germ theory.
For example let's say I start with the assumption dogs control the weather. Now a do scientific analysis and see that dogs often sense a lightning storm coming, but now attribute the cause of lightning storms to dogs becoming fearful just before they happen.
We know dogs just pick up on the cues of a storm slightly before humans. However, having a bad theory if it is widely accepted will cause some false but seeming accurate conclusions.
Couldn't some theory like germ theory be the same way?
If that is the case, than the best case against germ theory might be from a long dead scientist
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@whiteflame
don’t know how it’s possible to control so many people doing research in so many places, many of whom are not necessarily going to be forthcoming about their work until they get something publishable.
The Manhattan project did it right?
The Manhattan project scientists were working on a disgusting thing they felt would contribute to the greater good. It could be a similar scenario
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It's interesting you won't speculate on what causes somebody to be a crackpot. A crackpot would have to have a reasonably high IQ to be able to achieve the status in academia or medicine that! Would even allow them to garner enough attention and people to take them seriously. It certainly hurts their careers, so they must believe what they say. Why do people become crackpots? I need to find a psychologist to explain to me maybe.
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Bechamp did not inject himself with HIV. I think it was somebody later who ran with his ideal. I'll have to dig into it
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@whiteflame
I am referring to Antoine Bechamp.
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@Theweakeredge
And I think you're an idiot who doesn't look things up :\
I notice that these are so rare you could not get a picture from your local target. You had to dig for it online. It's really silly that you think a precisely even number of fat male and female mannequins are being put out in clothing stores.
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Rm says
In the end how would we really know? Those that knew could easily be silenced, don't deny it.
That is what scares me. If there is some large conspiracy they could pull it off and nobody would be the wiser. Bvn it is best to stay on guard from that
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@oromagi
This article talks about children getting ptsd because of shut downs, going hungry because they only ate school lunches. https://www.bbc.com/news/education-53097289
More happens though, some are stuck at home with abusive parents and lost their only reprieve. How messed up is that?
I don't think children should have to suffer. Sorry if preventing suffering in children makes me a bad guy.
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@oromagi
Is this one of those Jewish Space Laser theories?
I don't think Tesla was Jewish
Are you blaming Jewish billionaires for COVID? You haven't bothered to say.
I don't have a solid theory on who or what caused it. I know real or not, it is being used for the benefit of some. Do you think it is a coincidence Bezos pushed for lock downs and his company racked up billions from online purchases from people stuck in their houses?
If Jeff Bezos who also runs a newspaper, benefits so much from spreading fear, how can we trust the media when they say we should be scared? That we should frighten our children and make them perpetually scared of this invisible menace?
Do you ever feel guilty you contribute to children growing up who will have PTSD from the fear of a virus that kills virtually no children?
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@whiteflame
I mean I have to read several textbooks on information to sonit so maybe not.
What makes somebody a crackpot?
What would make a high IQ individual who is an expert on the subject matter and seemingly normal everywhere else in life say that germ theory is wrong?
Can we be confident it is correct if some genius who is a specialist in that field and who knows the subject better than us, says it is incorrect.
It would be a shame if the outlier opi in is correct. That means science is moving slower than it needs to be, and the older I get the worse that is, because it keeps me from benefiting on various cures for aging that come with advancement.
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@oromagi
It is similar to the Jewish conspiracy during world war 2, to create a fake pandemic to save lives. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Lazowski#:~:text=Eugene%20Lazowski%20born%20Eugeniusz%20S%C5%82awomir,on%20German%20phobias%20about%20hygiene.
Here you just attribute normal flu deaths to covid, and things like that. If you look at something like adrenal fatigue which is easily proven to be bullshit, you can see how something like covid19 could be invented, maybe not even intentionally.
This benefited many billionaires though by destroying small businesses. I thought liberals distrusted the rich by the way? It benefits some politicians who can employ draconian measures that serve a dual purpose. The ozone repaired itself quite a bit during the lock downs. I can see how environmentalists would love that.
There is plenty of incentive to fake it. If it was real why did the government fa I'll l to shut down the border and all overseas travel, before this even had a chance to hit the United states. A call to shut down all travel into and out of the country try, absolutely would have kept us safe. If this was real, why didn't they do that?
Did you know some communities did not even experience the spanish flu, because they shut down all travel in and out?
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@whiteflame
Yeah I read it. I thought it was interesting because it seemed to be exactly what some conspiracy theorists say.
I think the difference between "MRNA being rewritten into the dna" and theorists saying it rewrites DNA, is merely jargon. They say the latter but meant the former.
Also would love to debate you on germ theory at some point. It seems some scientist was going around injecting himself with HIV for years to prove germ theory was bad, so it may be interesting to explore.
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@oromagi
I only got the vaccine because my job paid me $500 to, but I made sure it was not an MRNA one so I went with J and J. It was also cheaper than getting a vasectomy. I heard it sterilizes bbn people.
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@Theweakeredge
They have a handy chart here, but have good citations. https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/occupations.aspx
This is sad you need evidence of things like doctors having Higher average IQs than janitors. Or that mentally disabled people are lower IQ than those scoring 1600 on the SAT.
Out of curiosity what is your IQ?
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The navy admits it can alter the fabric of reality now.
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/us-navy-inventions-change-reality?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1
Altering reality may help them able to time travel, shift us into new dimensiomsbor even call upon otherworldly demons. Is the navy playing
God?
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If anyone is wondering why the media and politicians who are owned by big businesses were pushing for lockdowns, it may he because it increases the market share of big businesses when small businesses are destroyed . 40% of small business owners were screwed by the over reaction. To covid 19 https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/12/small-business-used-define-americas-economy-pandemic-could-end-that-forever/
I speculate that this could send us into another great depression. They have already started printing money like crazy in response destroying the currency. As we know central bank currencies like ours, are subject to hyper inflation
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@Theweakeredge
It really is an accurate predictor. Not sure why people let obvious mumbo jumbo hinder their common sense. Go find a person with an IQ of 60 and one with an IQ of 120 and have a ten minute conversation. If you can't figure out which one is smarter after that, you likely have an intelligence problem yourself.
I didn't want to go there, but you actually cherry picked points on the study you shared. One part talked about and cited some other studies showing a moderate amount of IQ with performance.
Youth really shouldn't let things like this confuse you though. There is a reason why mentally disabled people score low on IQ tests and why people M in fields like Doctornor engineer score high on IQ tests. That is because it accurately measures intelligence
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@Intelligence_06
What matters is people said it was impossible when conspiracy Theorists suggested it
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@Theweakeredge
I am not going to give sources to back up the claim intelligent people are more intelligent LOL
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@Intelligence_06
However, you probably should give them all the same basic human rights. If the 180 IQ man made more out of the same things given because he is smarter, that is his responsibility for being smart.
You know that all kinds of good stuff is banned from intelligent people, because dumb people ruin it for everyone. Different laws for geniuses fix this. No need to ban me from hallucinogen for example
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Are any of you guys down for this?
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@Crocodile
I am reaching out to everyone. Close sign upsnin 72 hours and get started please. You'll have enough active players whether itnis bvn under bbn or over 13 by then.
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@airmax1227
I assume you are one of those losers that checks your emails and signs up for alerts. So are you down for this game?
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@MisterChris
Crocodile has a game in sign ups. Mafia is back if you want to play
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I am going to PM people so this doesn't get serious. Anyone serious about getting this started should do the same
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@oromagi
Are you interested?
I can promise to not PM during the game, even though I think it is stupid you believe non game related PMs are some sort of cheating.
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@Theweakeredge
We don't even know if IQ tests can accurately predict job success much less if they're leaders.
It can predict ability to acquire knowledge and understand obscure theories. Geniuses are more likely able to solve world problems than plebs. So I say give them a free pass to do what they want.
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@fauxlaw
And so, I launched a debate challenge proposing an 8-week fetus in a successful live-birth - something we have never seen, by the way - as a foil against Roe v. Wade, so it is a unique title and subject, yet no one on the pro-choice side wanted to take it up
I remember seeing the debate and being disinterested because it would get into legalese.
I am not that educated on the Roe vs Wade decision, and my guess is most people have not taken the time to read any transcripts of the case or look at the judges concluding remarks.
Nobody but people interested in the ins and outsnof laws would have been interested in that, and finding a judge may have been harder because of the dry nature.
None of these things I am saying are insults. If sucks that if you want votes, you have to debate what voters want to see as opposed to debating what you want. It is the reality of it though.
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@Theweakeredge
So you see- you should read before you say things.No - Vaccines do not rewrite RNANo - RNA does not rewrite your DNAA specific enzyme is capable of reverse transcribing RNA into DNA.....
That's just a semantical difference and basically what I said.
Your inability for simple comprehension is astounding. None of this study say's ANYTHING about foreign RNA's ability to actually take over or actually reproduce inside of your cells. Which you would have to prove in order for your hypothesis to have any credence. Furthermore, you would have to prove that this enzyme could actually reverse transcribe foreign RNA and not just Domestic. Further furthermore, you would have to prove that it is able to reverse transcribe MESSENGER RNA - which is a different thing from just plain 'ole RNA. Please do READ next
The study actually proves the hypothesis, which is stated in the title of the article.
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@FLRW
From the article
Cells contain machinery that duplicates DNA into a new set that goes into a newly formed cell. That same class of machines, called polymerases, also build RNA messages, which are like notes copied from the central DNA repository of recipes, so they can be read more efficiently into proteins. But polymerases were thought to only work in one direction DNA into DNA or RNA. This prevents RNA messages from being rewritten back into the master recipe book of genomic DNA. Now, Thomas Jefferson University researchers provide the first evidence that RNA segments can be written back into DNA, which potentially challenges the central dogma in biology and could have wide implications affecting many fields of biology.
“This work opens the door to many other studies that will help us understand the significance of having a mechanism for converting RNA messages into DNA in our own cells,” says Richard Pomerantz, PhD, associate professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at Thomas Jefferson University. “The reality that a human polymerase can do this with high efficiency, raises many questions.” For example, this finding suggests that RNA messages can be used as templates for repairing or re-writing genomic DNA.
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@dustryder
Enema actually works better. The nutrients will actually enter your bloodstream faster that way.
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@FLRW
Here is their citation. https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/7/24/eabf1771
What part are you disputing in that? RNA can rewrite DNA.
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@FLRW
The article I shared sources peer reviewed uncontroversial and bleeding edge scientific study results. What exactly do you disagree with. Check out the sites other articles, it seems pretty reliable information.
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@oromagi
President Donald Trump sparked widespread concern within the US and Israeli intelligence communities earlier this year when he disclosed details of a highly classified Israeli operation to Russian officials, according to a new Vanity Fair report.
With how many soldiers we have dying to further Israel interests at the cost of American interests, that is not even necessarily a bad thing.
Plus it seems like that classified information is something everybody should know about. It hurts national security to not allow airports to know ISIS created an undetectable suitcase bomb. It is downright evil that Israel and America kept that secret.
So what is the theory here anyway? Trump is a deep cover Russian spy?
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@badger
This is the most fun opinion anyone's ever had on here. Wylted, you really are some sort of genius.
That's true. I think statements like that being uncomfortable yet objectively true is why you will never see a too debater like oro, challenge my assertion that smart people should have more rights by instigating a debate
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@fauxlaw
You don't have time to go into depth, but I have seen every pro life and every pro choice argument. I don't need to see them again. The solution is to use those arguments for a more interesting debate title nor to go more in depth.
Here is how you g.j o more in depth.
1. Pro life
You have perfected this argument and now have to go deeper. Instead of making this argument you defend one of your premises instead.
2. The fetus should be considered human life
Now you do this topic and perfect it. You can suddenly move on. You consistently beat pro choice people who previously did not accept fetuses as human life. Some pro choicers do consider it human and think the needs of the mother outweigh that if the child. You have to address them now.
3. The life of an unborn infant should be prioritized over the needs of the mother.
Maybe in that debate your opponent argues something like, babies are better off dead than to face this sick world. So now you start a debate topic on neonatalism.
Uou still defend your position or change it when presented with new facts, and consistently become a better debater while getting more votes on your increasingly more obscure topics.
I would avoid going too obscure here though, because you can get boring. People going to obscure using evolutionary arguments for example, get boring when they start debating abiogenesis
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I don't get any of the proceeds from pine needle sales. I am an uncompensated neutral 3rd party, which makes me a reliable disseminater of information
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Also citation needed about that russian meeting. Thia is my first time hearing about it. It sounds interesting
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