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@oromagi
It was this event, this response to Comey's termination, that caused most of the FBI's leadership to change their mind about Russian influence over Trump and the investigations started in earnest on that day.
It's hard to threaten other countries when your handlers are in the room. I would have dismissed them and stared across the table and said
"For all intents and purposes I am god. If you make a single move that does not advantage America in one way, you will have a nuke on the kremlin"
I'd remove all foreign troops from overseas in every area, but keep my fingers on the button, just waiting for some idiot to mistake me for a weak leader due to disinterest in policing the world"
That is how you do war. Not through proxy battles or drawn out affairs, but obliterate your opponent quickly and let them rebuild themselves, with the knowledge of what happens when you mess with the bull"
Trump was likely just putting the Russians in their place.
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@oromagi
thus establishing that we need never mistake Wylted's philosophy as a reflection of American values.
God I hope not. American values are crap. American values are better than liberal values by far. Like conservatives believe cheating is bad, and you saw how stoic Mike Pence was. He behaved like a conservative even when Trump put him in danger.
American values is what created the bureaucracy that put me in abusive foster homes, and when I ran away from an abusive parent the police brought me back and called me a bad role model for my younger siblings.
I like sharing personal stories, but if things like MKULTRA, the Tuskegee experiments, slavery and a destructive foreign policy don't prove America is evil both before and after the liberal infestation of government, I don't know what will.
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@oromagi
Let's recall that when Trump failed to extract a promise from Comey that he would never investigate any Russian influence over the White House, Trump immediately asked Rosenstein to give him a reason to fire Comey
I watched Comey's questioning by Congress. Trump asked him to quickly investigate. Dragging this out until his term is over would be unethical. We need to know if there are shady dealings immediately and address them.
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The solution is really to have debates people want to read.
Here is a list of Boeing subjects and how to fix them
1. Abortions are good
Change the name to something like
killing babies is good
, and debate that position instead. You will probably bv use similar arguments anyway, unless you get into person good, which you can always change the subject and talk about how to debate personhood by debating something like
"Coma patients should not be considered human"
1. God is real
Boring topic, done to often. Since you want to argue against the problem of evil anyway. Just be pro on the following subject
"God was not behaving unethically by allowing the holocaust"
Ultimately you are debating the same thing, but one subject gets people wanting to read.
3. Gun control
Being anti gun is weak. Nobody cares and we have heard all the arguments. A society where the population is not armed very well would require less cops to have guns, so instead argue the following
"We should disarm the police"
Now you can discuss how to make that work by bringing gun bans up.
If your debates lack votes, you need to stop debating boring things and make people want to read.
On top of debating fun subjects like listed, you also need to make your arguments fun and easy to read. Keep words small, Inject humor. You do lose some advantage if your opponent has boring arguments, but you probably make I ppl for it by being likeable and creating an unconscious bias towards you in judges.
Invited debates are not the fault of would be judges. It is the fault of boring debaters. I have probably voted on 100 abortion debates. Make it interesting so I don't have to read the same arguments a 101st time. Then you might get me to vote
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Here is he thread I gave you the cure in. https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6222-cure-for-the-vaccine
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Conspiracy theorists were mocked when they suggested COVID vaccines could rewrite your DNA. Now conspiracy theorists are proven right. Scientists determine MRNA does have the ability to rewrite DNA. https://scitechdaily.com/new-discovery-shows-human-cells-can-write-rna-sequences-into-dna-challenges-central-principle-in-biology/amp/
I wonder what the purpose of MRNA vaccines really are? This is why I got the Johnson and Johnson one.
Please see my other thread about how to cure the vaccine if you messed up and got the Pfizer or modena vaccine. If you are considering getting the vaccine, go with Johnson and Johnson
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@oromagi
I still say that gathering information for terrorists should be legal. No action should be taken until you do a crime.
Participate in planning = should be clear legally.
Carry out plans= should be illegal.
This makes it easier for high IQ people to reach their objectives, and we as a society want high IQ individuals such as those termed "master minds " to be uninhibited when pursuing their goals.
A person with an IQ of 100, should have less freedom than one with a IQ of 180, the suggested changes to the laws I make above would help high IQ individuals have more influence over society.
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Do me
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Southerners, see what democrats think about you. Always vote republican up and down ticket.
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@oromagi
None of that addresses the evidence I provided. I trust the science, and a mathematician and a physicist as linked above has proven that Trump not bbn only won, but got the popular vote. We also have evidence from a court showing the machines were accessed remotely when Democrats previously said the machines were not even connected to the internet
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@oromagi
The Mueller Report states that when Russian Intelligence's Internet Research Agency started to assemble a model target from which to recruit new Trump voters, they looked for people on sites like this- people who believe anything they're told and are easily parted from their money and then the IRA started shoveling Trump stuff into their path and giving them a political purpose.
I don't know that Russia necessarily benefits from massive improvements to America, but if they have some mutual benefit from Ameruca being made great again, good for them.
How does Anerica being great again benefit them though? Does the Mueller report say why they are so invested in improving America?
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@Theweakeredge
So... when it comes to fasting, yup, let's trust doctors - but with vaccines - they're LYING - of course - no contradictions here.
They have a wide variety of views concerning it.
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@oromagi
Any claim he makes requires a fact check.
Citation needed
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@Intelligence_06
Nothing really makes it anarchist, it talks about things like making pirate radio stations, bomb making and manufacturing drugs.
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@Intelligence_06
The funny thing is it is legal to own the anarchist cookbook in England, but he happened to own it while also having the wrong political ideology.
Rules for me, but not thee
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Recentlya man was arrested for owning the anarchist cook book and having right wing views. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19321249.former-university-student-jailed-terrorism-offence/
This is a book that is just a copy paste of openly available military manuals available several decades ago, for anyone who doesn't know, and something we have basically all owned as children for the shock value it got us. Not that it matters, the fact is it should never be illegal to own a book, even if that book is controversial.
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Mathematician proves with math that there was fraud during the election
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Physicist absolutely proves Trump won the majority vote
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@Barney
Edit the title of my post to say proof instead of proog please
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People were asking for some evidence of election fraud last thread. Democrats in the media were claiming that fraud was impossible, because their was no remote access to voting machines. Well now it looks like their was remote access and breaches. These breaches should if we lived in a law and order society decertify the election
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The reporter who blew open the Loretta lynch Clinton tarmac story, has been found dead. Clinton's death list, not done growing
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If you have gotten the covid19 vaccine because work required it, there might still be a way to cure you from the effects of it. It's called pine tea. There are instructions to make it here https://ambassadorlove.wordpress.com/2021/05/06/pine-tea-possible-antidote-for-spike-protein-transmission/
I have also heard some people say that a prolonged fast will do the trick. Anyone new to fasting should consult a doctor first though
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@Undefeatable
What’s your point? If some journalist fakes getting it, why’s it so bad? Journalists exaggerate all the time.
We are trusting them to tell us about the condition of the world outside of our small bubbles. It is a very important task, and by exaggerating, sensationalizing or lying than they are neglecting their duty to the audience. Fictional movies are made to entertain. Ideally the news is dry. Disinterested, factual and free M of any bias.
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@Barney
It is wholly possible for people to fake doing something safe (if they believe it to be safe or not, would be another matter).
Yes true. My fallacy if I am using one is personal incredulity though.
I am possibly insinuating that because I don't know why they are faking them, than the motives must be bad. I think it is bad for journalists and politicians to do photo ops like this, because their audience believes they are viewing the actual vaccination. It's the same thing as lying in my book.
It makes me wonder, if they have to do photo ops, use stock footage or like some journalists pretend to be in places they are not while reporting (many funny Colbert report videos of this) than it means the facts they are relaying should not be trusted. If people in positions of authority are lying, than perhaps believe the opposite of what they say.
It's possible they have motives other than lying for passing off photo ops or stock footage as video of an actual event. However I don't understand that motive, so I show some hesitancy to believe the media.
I just think maybe the media prioritizes some other things over truth. Probably ideology being their number one thing. Seems insidious.
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@zedvictor4
Person shoots Niagara Falls in a Honduran boat and dies, following a Covid vaccination.....Bastard lefties.
Is this any different than gun shot victims being labeled as covid19 deaths by hospitals inflating numbers?
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@oromagi
- A very silly claim. I mean it's not true, there no evidence for either claim but also just the sheer delusion that a pillowmonger somehow has the authority to "seize" voting machines from states or "seize" boats flying under foreign flags. Sounds like Mr. Pillow has a problem with bi-polar self-aggrandizement. Truly laughable bullshit.
Some wealthy people can be capable of heroism. It is why Ross Perot should have become president. Ross Perot had some of his employees held hostage overseas, and the American government was not intervening, so he hired some Blackwater types to fly overseas and save his employees. Perhaps mr pillow is a hero the stature of Ross Perot. Not all heroes are broke poor people.
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@Double_R
I am not as familiar with the laws as sidney Powell. My thoughts is that election fraud if discovered, will likely not cause a sitting president to be removed .
I wish some lawyer bros would come on here and tell me if a sitting president gets removed or not if there is enough fraud discovered to overturn an election
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@zedvictor4
emotional plea.
No decent person wants to murder babies....Check your dictionary Mr Overblow.
No republican is looking to actually control women's bodies, so when liberals claim they do, with a straw man, I think it is okay to strawman in response.
The person I responded to, said that republicans want to control women's bodies.
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I don't know why, but ever since I watched David the gnome as a kid I have been attracted to women who look like his wife. My fiance looks like a gnome.
Well recently at work, we have a new GM who looks just like a perfect gnome. I haven't seen such a perfect gnome looking woman in years.
Long story short, when she walked in, I dropped a bunch of things and just started staring and zoned out, so it looks like I might be fired for my odd behavior.
The last time this happened, I was playing a pool game and a lot of money was on the line. I dropped my cue and started walking towards the gnome looking girl. She was so beautiful. Anyway my friend is screaming at me, because he was my banker. I go over to her and I have to scream because the bar is loud and I scream at her, that I want her to stand on my lawn. She gives a confused look, and her boyfriend starts approaching. I tell her "I love you, please let me take you home and make love to you on my lawn". Her boyfriend tries to fight me, but my friends drag me away, and give me shit for losing them money on a pool game.
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@Theweakeredge
First, assuming that evidence has been "destroyed"
Not really. Conservatives asked to inspect machines and they were literally banning them from doing so and erasing data on them. Injunctions were made to stop the destruction by judges who apparently are corrupt. That is destroying evidence.
Second, that said destruction is helpful in hiding fraud or a result of x or y
The fact they are doing it, proves they think the destruction is helping. If you think M otherwise, please tell me what other logical motive exists
An innocent person can be duped into destroying something
Okay, well in this case the duper is the one I would label the destroyer.
An innocent person can destroy something for one purpose unrelated to the crime you are accusing them (legally speaking)
Give an example of why an innocent person would reject a probe into their innocence?
So to me - it seems like you're so caught up with a narrative you accidentally made a stupid talk.
I don't really follow any narratives. I browse random political sites of various ideologies and just read media reports that are shared
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I said more and more people are raising the alarm, not more and more are believing the claims
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@3RU7AL
All women are pretty much subject to the same conditioning, not that they all respond to it the same way. I don't think 51% is optimistic. You haven't even heard my theory, on how they do mate selection to even say it is an incorrect generalization.
My theory could be as generic as saying, women pursue men that they either want to sleep with or have a relationship with. That is a generic enough statement to include almost everyone, so you really can't say that my theory on how they behave in the sexual market place is incorrect
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@oromagi
I concede. I forgot I made the claim about more americans. You are correct that poll disproves me.
The article you cited is them quoting a doctor, not making a claim though.
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@oromagi
Him saving the ACA, shed the veil that establishment Republicans and Democrats are a part of different teams. I just can't believe McCain was so evil, that one of his last acts was to say "screw America, I am on team illuminati " or whatever skull and bones members call themselves these days.
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@Double_R
Yes. I did fo to youtube and apparently it was in a mafia movie and maybe they were saying mafia members speak in very very subtle ways nor something.
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@oromagi
The conveienent "break in" pie referred to. Also known as a burglary
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@oromagi
Ask yourself, are there more reliable sources of information regarding the US 2020 Election outcome than Canadian religious zealots who deny the existence of COVID in the face of an ongoing world pandemic and have been banned from social websites for the extremity of prior disinformation campaigns. If the answer is yes and if those more reliable sources all say your source is bullshit, then the onus is on you the claimant to use more reliable data.
I'm going to have to see some evidence they think covid19 is fake. I know youtube likes to ban people who just disagree with whatever the current popular narrative is. I saw somebody kicked off for suggesting that maybe we could have waited a few more months for releasing the vaccines.
This is just what liberals are doing now. Taking over free speech platforms like youtube and Twitter and then randomly deciding to eliminate political dissidents. Google doesn't just do this to appease the establishment in America, they also help China erase dissension as well.
Further, I cited reliable polling data to show that fewer and fewer Americans believe Trump's Big Lie, disproving your claim.
You'll have to do better than. "Being a mindless NPC is better, you should believe what most people believe like me" . I like to see evidence for beliefs and not just fallacious appeal to authority, especially when authority is usually dominated by pro establishment individuals.
Someone believing in multiple conspiracy theories or a unified conspiracy theory is also likely to have a completely distorted view of reality," citing Holocaust deniers as an example of someone so out of touch with the facts that they can be dismissed out of hand. I have no problem sealing you in that particular sarcophagi.
You could have just reworded this to say. "I Have no critical thinking skills, so whatever the television says is what I blindly believe. The media never distorts the truth and the American government has never done anything bad and lied about it. The Tuskegee experiments, slavery, and cointelpro are all lies, derp"
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According to sidney Powell, once the election audit proves Trump was defrauded out of the presidency, he will be reinstated as president, but will not get credit fr the time he missed when Biden was holding the
seat
Mike Lindell and legal team have SEIZED DOMIMION machines as well as a boat allegedly used to bring fake ballots in from Honduras
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@Greyparrot
You have to wonder if the majority of Americans are under some Stockholme delusion after generations of getting fucked by elites in Washington DC.
genocides. Are under Stockholm syndrome. I just heard the political prisoners fromJanuary 6th were singing "God Bless America" in prison.
The people that America has screwed over when they defended the integrity of the election, were singing "God Bless America" both the left and right have issues with this
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@Unpopular
everything Trump says must therefore be true and lack of evidence doesn't matter because everything is a big conspiracy. You can't trust anyone or anything, especially if they are considered legitimate resources. This is where we are folks, enjoy the ride.
It you were in Nazi Germany and some Jew was taken to a concentration camp on trumped up charges you would say the following
everything Goldstein says must therefore be true and lack of evidence doesn't matter because everything is a big conspiracy. You can't trust anyone or anything, especially if they are considered legitimate resources by the nazi government and nazi controlled media. This is where we are folks, enjoy the ride. Next they'll be saying the political prisoners are being genocided.
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@Unpopular
That is a fallacious question - an Appeal to Ignorance. This fallacy occurs when you argue that your conclusion must be true, because there is no evidence against it. You are concluding there was a devious break-in (even though you have offered zero proof of that) and asking oromagi to disprove your conclusion which is based on nothing but an assumption. You can't disprove someone's guess.
If we look at possible motives and take into account how convenient the break in was for democrats, I think it is a fair question to ask. I am asking what other motive would exist for the break in? If there are multiple motives than maybe it can be dismissed as an unrelated coincidence
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@ILikePie5
What GP said. Establishment GOP also hated Trump. Arizona is establishment GOP country. Such a shame that the state that put Goldwater in the spotlight behaves this way. Although I suspect it has something to do with the Hanoi Songbird - another beauty.
It's also where John McCain is from. Remember he is born to an evil man who hated his son enough that he ordered bombing where he thought his son was a POW. He as some of those evil genetics, but Arizona Republicans love him.
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@Unpopular
I don't see any defense contractor feeling shame when they receive government handouts in the form of massive contracts,
They shouldn't. They are doing a job and getting paid for
even if people die over it. I don't see any oil tycoon or Wall Street banker feeling shame when the government bails them out to the tune of billions
They should.
I understand what you are saying, but to expect people to feel guilty for taking what's offered or provided by government, when they feel government often screws them over and doesn't protect them does not seem very reasonable.
Not guilt, shame. Those are two distinct things. When I tell people here about my embarrassing past, this to work past my shame. My therapist said being open with things we are ashamed of, helps us to stop feeling shame.
I also was just mentioning a problem with the welfare state. It was a criticism of the government's actions. If you can get food stamps and it will help you feed your kid, than it is unethical not to get them.
I would imagine many people on welfare feel they are deserving for some reason, just like the rich people getting handouts do. I have not seen any of them convey shame, have you?
They shouldn't feel entitled or deserving. If anything that makes them less appreciative of the help, and does them no good.
I haven't attached a moral statement as to whether people should feel shame asking for subsidies. I have only pointed out, shamenis not enough to prevent some people from abusing the system, so the system needs to adjust for that.
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It's bad optics to fake it, is what I am saying
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@oromagi
I don't know if they got the shot. Unfortunately they chose to pretend to take it for a photo op, instead of just videoing the real thing. We just have to take their word for it, which can be problem for convincing the vaccine skeptics the shot is safe to take
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The part about point 1 I disagree with is that it is rational to do those sorts of photo ops. If I were the media, I would have stuck around to photo the actual event, if I were one of the officials I would6have allowed the photo op
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@oromagi
I dispute number 2.
I said that I disagree with photo ops instead of showing the actual shot, unless the photo ops are paired with a disclaimer that the footage is just a photo op and not showing the actual vaccination.
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@oromagi
My friend told me yesterday. Not sure why they would wait 24 hours to play. I got the johnson and johnson shot just before I started my shift at work. Not saying I didn't regret it. I felt like crap, but there doesn't need to be a rule against playing after.
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