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@Double_R
s number one priority in these proceedings is to ensure they do not give away anything that can negatively impact their investigations.
How would saying that no FBI agents were directed to overthrow the government, impact their investigation?
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@Danielle
I'd be a lot harsher on illegal immigration if legal immigration were easier
This is actually what Trump stated many times he wanted to do. He may have clothed it in tough rhetoric, but his plan was to make legal immigration a lot easier, while simultaneously preventing illegal immigration.
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@Danielle
Why is it wrong to force a business to close for 2 months thereby affecting their profitability, but okay to prevent a business from hiring cheap labor which impacts their profitability? I
I would say it's because exploiting people by paying them $2 an hour, while you pay whites minimum wage is unethical, and while I disagree with government over reach during the pandemic, at least the attempt at keeping people safe is honorable, while businesses pushing for lax border security so they can exploit and abuse immigrants is unethical.
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serious question. What good does it do America to except asylum seekers
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He fucked up with the loyalty thing and underestimated Pence's integrity. Pence basically was on a path to be a future president, but decided to stay loyal to his ill conceived values
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@Danielle
Trump picked his VP based on who would be loyal to him and nothing more
Trump is obviously not an evangelical christian and those people were worried about his moral compass, so he brought Pence in. If he wanted loyalty, I think he would have went with somebody like Pat Buchanon.
will read that and respond tomorrow. Just kinda fucking around tonight but I'll get back to ya.
I understand that.
Also I saw your evangelical statement, but don't feel like changing this
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@Castin
I don't think he's stupid. I would argue that most people are not receptive to lessons that come from a place of hostility or ridicule.
This is stupid. If your enemy puts sugar in your coffee, than your coffee tastes sweet, but if a friend even accidently poisons your coffee, you still die.
Don't think about how the message is packaged, just think of how useful it is.
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@Dr.Franklin
porn isnt real life
If you are jacking off to and aroused by other men, you are gay. Now you may never want to act out on it, because it makes you scared to do so, or you are afraid society will judge you, but it is gay and you need to seek help, before you get even more gay.
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@oromagi
60-70% of men are aroused by other men. Statistically speaking, exclusively hetero is a pretty small minority of humanity."
The statistic about women is true. I have had sex with an embarrassing amount of women, and damn near every one was down to bring another girl into bed with us. The male on male stat is shocking to me though, and now I am assuming it has something to do with the gaying of society, that I indicated in my other thread. The Russians want us to be gay, because it is easier to fight lady boys.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I just saw a stat that showed almost half of homosexuals were molested as children and that most pedophiles were victims as children. https://www.stopitnow.org/faq/will-children-who-get-sexually-abused-become-sexually-abusive-as-teens-or-adults
Remember that tranny story time that liberals were so upset people opposed. Well the trannies reading stories to kids, surprise surprise, were pedophiles. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/drag-queen-storytime-convicted-pedophile-dressed-as-a-woman-reads-to-kids-at-public-library/
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@Yassine
Are you one of these liberal muslims who think it's okay for dudes to fuck each other?
some of what you are asking is getting tedious. I'll try to be patient.
- I'm also keen on knowing your answer to the question: should the US abide by the instructions prescribed in these verses (9:1-8)? – Such that, if the US is attacked (for instance, by al-Qaeda or the Japanese Navy), it should respond according to chapter 9 of the Quran in the following steps:Declare disassociation with these attackers, [from verse 1]Offer them a 4 months grace period for repentance, [from verse 2]Forgive them if they repent, [from verse 3]Keep peace with those who have not attacked its people or helped the attackers, [from verse 4]Fight & kill those who have not repented by the end of the grace period, & forgive them once they repent, [from verse 5]Grant asylum to anyone among the attackers who seeks protection, [from verse 6]Release them back safely if they change their mind. [from verse 6]I would disagree with them.
- Why?
this can get a bit complex as a philosophy, but unlike humans, nation states are not punished in the afterlife. For individuals, we can be more forgiving. If somebody punches me in the face, God may give them their punishment. For nations, it is up to other nations to punish them. I would say the verse you shared is too peaceful, which is in contradiction to my beliefs about Muslims, so I'm not sure if that is cherry picked or a genuine belief, but I am curious as to why you ISIS would operate differently than the above, if it is a genuine belief that is common.
- On what ground? What do you mean by bloody?
There is a theory about war. That when war takes place, you have 2 options. Very quick and ruthless, like peeling a bandaid or very slow, like how the Iraq war happened. Before the era of and ease of mass propagandist was a thing, most preferred the quick and bloody approach, because it looked ugly, but resulted in less death and suffering than a drawn out affair. Now that cameras can catch every despicable aspect of war, and propaganda is so important to winning, most feel compelled to do the slow approach, so they don't look like monsters. It results in more suffering, but they save face.
- Then is your criticism of the Quran regarding those verses that they are not violent enough? Or is it that they are too peaceful? Or what?
I didn't criticize those verses. It seems like a very honorable way to conduct yourself with other nations, I just don't think it is the approach that we should take.
What of those who refuse & promote the normalization of the practice in your society?
If they refuse, than that is between them and God/Allah. The people who promote it, should be stopped in non violent ways though.
- Why have the Jews & Christians always understood the letter to mean death for homosexuals? What makes your opinion more credible than theirs?
I didn't say they were wrong. God gave certain directions to ancient Israelites. I told you the reason for those directions, which were to harden them and to make sure they were multiplying, so they could be a more powerful nation. Nothing hardens somebody, like having them lose their compulsion to kill, by stoning a homo to death.
Those laws were for Jews in the times of Moses, they aren't for me or anybody living today.
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is airnax1227 eligible to vote? if he is unbanned, he will likely vote airmax
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@3RU7AL
I vote for 3RU7AL.
terrible choice. You need to take a hard look at each candidates platform before voting again please
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@Danielle
“I already explained to you why answering "I can't answer that" proves nothing and you didn't respond. I can only assume you don't have a response and you realize that's true, which I'm sure stirs up some doubt or cognitive dissonance within you. That's a good start.”
I did answer, because your explanations were lacking. I will refresh your memory.
You stated
“Obviously saying "I can't answer that" proves positively nothing. First off, she could legitimately not know the answer to how many informants were present on January 6 and therefore she would be unable to answer honestly. Second, if you ask me if one of my clients (investors) is Barack Obama, I would have to respond "I can't answer that" and my doing so would give you zero insight as to whether the answer is yes or no let alone qualify as evidence of any kind. You literally learned nothing by her answering that way, and the desire to find the answer incriminatory cannot be justified by logic; only bias. The whole organization (FBI) operates on secrecy. Why the FUCK would they answer questions about who their confidential informants are?“
If your client is not barack obama, it makes absolutely no sense, to not just say no. You only need the other statement if you do have obama as a client.
I gave her a pass on the informants part of the question. She clearly might want to keep that confidential, but she could answer her question like I suggested in another post, where I said a better response would be like the one I suggest here
“He also asked about FBI agents, not just informants. So she could have said something like
"Informants I can't answer, but none of my agents called for illegal actions"”
You gave another example where you said the following, and my response followed. If she hates guestimating she could say “I don’t know, as opposed to I can’t answer which would be more accurate.
“How many of my colleagues were in the office today? I can't answer that. OH WOW I MUST BE LYING OR AN IDIOT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Lol such fucking dipshit logic”
Why are women like this? I would just answer "I don't know, about 20"
“Notice you didn't answer my question of what it would take to convince you that this theory is horse shit because deep down you want to believe it's true.”
What would convince me is a reasonable explanation of why she answered the way she did, that takes into account my objections. If I have any bias, it is the incredulity bias, which I can’t get rid of, due to my belief it Is unethical not to know the reason for something and assume, the worst when it isn’t obvious to me”
Maybe I am approaching this wrong. My theory doesn’t matter to me. I don’t know what happened on January 6. I know her answers don’t add up to me, and I am trying to figure out why she answered the way she did. I figured there were enough lawyers and wannabe lawyers on here, that I could get a clear picture.
Would the answers to the following questions be different.
1. Did Feds or informants participate in the riot?
2. Did feds participate in the riot in an official capacity?
3. Did informants participate in the riot?
Let’s say she is reasonably confident, that no feds participated in an official capacity. She could answer the first one.
No feds did, but I can’t answer in regards to informants
the second she could answer
no
the third she could answered
I am unable to answer that question at this time
That’s not giving away tactics or methods. We should pretty much always be pretty confident the answer is no. The only reason to not answer no, would be because it is a yes, unless I am missing something.
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@Yassine
- I'm also keen on knowing your answer to the question: should the US abide by the instructions prescribed in these verses (9:1-8)? – Such that, if the US is attacked (for instance, by al-Qaeda or the Japanese Navy), it should respond according to chapter 9 of the Quran in the following steps:Declare disassociation with these attackers, [from verse 1]Offer them a 4 months grace period for repentance, [from verse 2]Forgive them if they repent, [from verse 3]Keep peace with those who have not attacked its people or helped the attackers, [from verse 4]Fight & kill those who have not repented by the end of the grace period, & forgive them once they repent, [from verse 5]Grant asylum to anyone among the attackers who seeks protection, [from verse 6]Release them back safely if they change their mind. [from verse 6]
I would disagree with them. My preferred national security strategy is to bring all the troops, home and stop playing world police. I want all wars to be defensive strictly. If attacked I would advocate a quick and very bloody retaliation, as I think quick and bloody is more ethical than long and drawn out war.
if it is not a sanctioned attack, but accidental or something than we would have to lean towards what you suggested, but intentional military intervention is a different story.
- I suspect you keep going back to this just to say that word again... You could've at least watched the videos before commenting! Let's see, the first guy says gays should be tried & put to death, the second says the solution to AIDS is to kill all gays, the third says put gays in electric fence, & the last dude says good riddance for the gay massacre. Point being, these are the true teachings of the Bible, at least it's the letter of the text & what these christians believe.
I did watch the videos. I think there is a difference between not giving a shit of somebody kills fruits and actually advocating for the murder of them. I'd also say advocating for their death is unacceptable and that we should be completely intolerant of their sinning, while still helping them by leading them to a celibate or heterosexual lifestyle.
As far as the old testament laws that Moses encouraged the stoning of Homos, it was understandable for their situation. You are looking at a group of slaves that need to be hardened with these strict punishments, while also being a small group, so people being okay with gay shit, would prevent them from being fruitful and having lots of children.
There are 13 muslim countries where you will be killed for being a fruit cake. There are zero christian countries like that. Why is that? https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/14/countries-where-being-gay-is-legally-punishable-by-death/39574685/
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I found it by just googling some random conspiracy theory I was interested in, and joined. I probably would have left, but I found the forums and imabench's weekly stupid made me really like the atmosphere.
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Even when I was perma banned I looked at the site like once a month.
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@warren42
Stop being a dumb ass. Vote airmax and stfu.
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vote airmax.
rn asked me to vote on his behalf and he is also voting airmax, so just double vote this
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@Barney
I don't believe that you talked to someone is protected, and I'm not seeing the malice the rule is in place to handle, but again, please tread carefully. It's a good habit to just not make direct quotes from PMs.
This is an inappropriate comment ragnar. please use more discretion to avoid potential mod over reach
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@zedvictor4
Unmoderated,And operationally,Fraught with glitches.
That period occurred after DDO, died due to the site owners
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@Danielle
@Double_R
Imagine asking the top law enforcement agency in the country if they participated in what they are calling an attempt to overthrow the government, and they don't reply with a stern, immediate NO.
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@Double_R
To dispel notions that the FBI participated in a riot or to admit they did. The informant part, you'd want to keep confidential, so here is how you would respond if the answer is no.
"As far as informants are concerned, I can’t answer, but no FBI agents did so"
"As far as informants are concerned, I can’t answer, but no FBI agents did so"
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@Reece101
From a big tent conservative perspective:Dude shouldn’t have said the hard r.
It's okay. I'm black when it's convenient for me
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@Yassine
- Examples of American Christian pastors & preachers doing the same thing:...
None of those people advocated murdering fags, they just talked about how they were sinners. We condemn homosexuality also, we just don't think they deserve to be murdered.
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@Athias
You kind of ruin the fun of the offhand comment, once you start analyzing it to death.
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@Athias
Nigger starts with an N, silly. Why are you begging me to post the word LOL
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@RationalMadman
The latter statement doesn't make her feel objectified by the person saying it because the person never says she is 'hot
You don't have to be hot to be raped. A lot of times it is a crime of opportunity. I was telling her she would face those sorts of things, because she was weak and easily overpowered. If she was a frail male, I'd have the same concern. I've seen these boys rape boys as well.
This is why I was amused when you said I lacked tact in my campaign thread, not sure how to not word this personally but you're not the best at it.
That's not personal. I can admit, I'm not the best at it. It also annoys me that it is ever needed.
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@Athias
I don't think I would lose my vote. One can never tell what the mods will do though. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger
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@Athias
I don't think I'll be punished for saying it, but I think this election will be close, and I don't want to risk losing my vote.
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@RationalMadman
It's wierd because when I noticed I can say the exact same thing different ways. One ways and liberals think it is a great statement. Another way and conservatives will. It will be the same statement, just worded differently. I wonder why that is.
I'll use a non political example. I once told an 20 year old tiny single girl that she shouldn't become a foster parent (she was considering it) because being raped is a real possibility. I mean I was with foster kids, stronger than grown men who were sexual deviants. She took it to mean that I was saying all foster kids were rapists, but somebody else told her the following.
You can't really control what foster kids you get sent, and a lot are very disturbed and in and out of juvenile hall. I Don't think it's safe for a single woman to pick up fostering.
She took the second statement well. Both statements say the exact same thing. Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?
I saw some people do an experiment where they did Donald Trump quotes the same way. They just did full sentences but rearranged the order of them, keeping the same meaning, and a lot of liberals started agreeing with what he was saying. It makes no sense.
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@Vader
I'm not biased and he threw my name into it.
I think I would also be just as unbiased picking judges, if they want to elect me as judge picker. I will have no problem picking non biased judges who are vo patent.
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@RationalMadman
Only in cases where it benefits the United States to allow them to immigrate.
Even if not in individual cases. Say we can quantify that 100000 Mexican immigrants a year are beneficial to the United States, than we should make that a hard rule and try to bring them in, in ways where they aren't exploited by employers and can have a real chance to actually integrate.
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@RationalMadman
I am asking a rhetorical question here but have you ever have to live in a shithole tinpot type nation?Try it, whether very corrupt or just very inept, such nations aren't places where you as an individual can turn things around.
I've literally been tortured. I have lived in the woods in a tent with gators growling outside of it. Many other such experiences where I have been helpless. It's not feasible to rescue all of these people by bringing them To the United States. It's much better to use solutions that involve fixing their respective countries instead.
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I have the ability to pull new members in as well. I'm waiting to see the results of this election before I decide it's worth it
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You guys did drive RM TO vote for brutal. He was legitimately going to vote for airmax
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@oromagi
Can you explai. To RM, that election fraud is a myth
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@TheUnderdog
If God tells me to cut off my right arm, I’m not doing it.
Even most Christians lack enough faith to do it as well. We are only human
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@zedvictor4
Just look at my thread. You can really dig into his background on DEbate.org and you can PM him. He doesn't need to remain unfamiliar
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The only issue with Twitter is that it is passionate people with below average IQs. It might be okay because of being a niche interest though
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@airmax1227
. No offense taken by your comment, though I do feel bad for anyone I let down by not winning
I was mostly just amusing myself by giving you a hard time, but yes I'll be a little upset because I dropped out, because a candidate better than me entered the race. If one worse than me ends up winning, I'll be annoyed.
Ultimately it's not a big deal though, it's just a hobby that I can probably find a different outlet for.
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I have no problem judging it.
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@airmax1227
So the election is tomorrow. I urge everyone to familiarize themselves with my positions and ideas, and if you have any questions at all, feel free to ask me anything.Thank you.
Like 2 people voting for brutal know anything about you or your platform.
Great campaigning skills, you have there. You went from 90% to win, to about 60%.
No offense of course. I'm still voting for you, because I am aware your campaigning skills are irrelevant to how well you will do the job.
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@Lemming
Feels 'very schoolyard,Couple of. . . . 'individuals, pushing another individual,Saying fight, fight, fight, or you're a "pussy" - MikalI can't say I approve.
This is how disputes are supposed to be settled on a debate site. In the arena
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If there were any of my quotes in the game, I would like to see them, for my own amusement
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@badger
I don't disagree with you. But I guess culture is a tougher sell when you're hungry. The Mexicans aren't coming over the wall just for fun.
They are coming over the walls, because Mexico is a shithole. The solution to a country being a shithole, is not to deport every person dissatisfied with it being a shithole. If anything it is to force them to stay there, so they will do something about it through a democratic process or through revolution. Sometimes the cure is very painful.
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