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If I was a mod and he was scum I would honestly warn him to not out his whole team that blatantly

Like poker (have previously played for a living prior to black friday). If you play just based on the easily tangible math you will lose. You need to look for behavioral clues and apply those or the scum will use an exploitive strategy to win. For example when playing poker if I have a 90% chance of winning based on pure math but my opponent just went all in and he has suddenly developed a genuine tremble in his hands and his voice cracks, then I will lose all my money by calling him. His behavioral clues let me know that the tangible math of 90% is wrong and that my true math is somewhere close to zero%, though it could be considerably higher given his ability to actually know what a monster hand looks like for example. 

There was a thing I used to do some poker sessions to make sure that I was actually looking at behavioral tells. I would either cover the cards on my computer screen with a sticky note to prevent seeing my own cards or in live play refuse to look at my hand though pretending to. Those were usually winning sessions by the way and I learned from them. 

We aren't machines.  Exploitive play is going to give you the highest ROI in games where you are not out of your depth.  

I have played against people who have attempted to use pure math. They lose. The game is too complicated for that. In mafia the game is even more abstract then poker. Using pure math is a losing strategy and exploitive play is ideal. 

I still use math when I play poker don't get me wrong but I apply it to abstract things. Like my opponent typically raises full pot in this spot when he has a top pair hand to protect his top pair. My math will determine that a scare card will most likely come next and I can bluff him off his hand so I will likely call in that spot. 

I am not saying don't use math, but do your best to apply it to more abstract things. I think you may have some unique insight into psychology if your profile is honest,so you should have an advantage of k owing peoples psychology. Don't throw away that advantage by not playing in an exploitive way.

It is almost impossible to be 100% certain of anything in this game. We have to go with the odds. I still think that lynch could have been avoided if pressF was a little less evasive with his answers and quicker with them

Don't be so quick to claim

Noob scum tend to lean on the I'm new excuse too hard and milk that,so that is why I think it would be increased odds of scumminess if he has a little experience 

Did BMd play on DDO? If he played more than 2 games I am willing to lynch

The field he is pursuing will be obsolete when Google creates a super AI

Never mind. I think I confused him with another player in the game who. aspires to be a lawter

CC is full of hubris, so he has odd pet theories and then backs them up with unwarranted confidence.  I wouldn't overthink it. I do worry it will make him a terrible lawyer though. Seems like something g the typical prosecutor would do, which is why even in this day an age false convictions still happen

Maybe I can help. What is your homework for?

I don't understand what speedrace was thinking there. Even with the explanation.  Perhaps I am dumb, curious but won't pursue further. 

Nice, busy with what?

for loitering 

Actually that is a legitimate line of questioning by CC. I want that further explained as well.

for role fishing

Very convenient time to log off

I think at the very least it is enough to ask for a full claim and for him to reveal his team mates if he doesn't want lynched.

Yes we always reveal who is on our team. Please list members of your team now

First time trying the gambit that I can recall, but honestly I tend to scum read people who are illogical. Maybe wrongfully so. The logic of the move is pretty obvious and airtight so you failing to see it seems phony to me. Particularly since you seem reasonably I intelligent to me, so you failing to understand that logic is baffling. Also why do you always so heavily focus on post 11 on every thread you enter https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/2531/celebrity-mafia-endgame?page=1&post_number=15

By the way. Without the info bsh1 was privy to, it read as a bus to me as well.

No it didn't.  It is possible to have multiple scum in a dream. They were just as mathematically likely to be town before the dream as after

I have more respect for mharman than to think he made pineapple a town character 

Also I am town confirmed.  I would not pull that move as scum. That is thinking 6 levels deep and would make your heads explode.

This is 5 level deep thinking. Get on board if you want to know why people like me are almost undefeated in real strategy games

That is retarded. It should play out as follows if town has 3 digit IQs. I claim pineapple. Town ignores this. Scum thinking king they can get a lynch on a town with plausible deniability CCs. Everyone has a 3 digit IQ so they lynch the one who CCed

Also an honest CC will not draw suspicion normally unless you actually did it as pineapple

Quick tip for scum do not fall into DDs bullshit. It is fine to draw suspicion towards yourself to meet your objectives.  You can figure out how to bullshit yourself out of a situation later

They can't randomly CC because when somebody flips it will expose them as scum. Doing a real CC gives them plausible deniability.  You can't be so dense you don't understand this. 

Okay I am bacon and pineapple is definitely scum and yes scum will CC that thinking it would be an easy town lynch with plausible deniability.  It would almost be stupid not to CC. Which makes it the perfect trap you guys are messing up

Fine I will claim I am really pineapple but I am vanilla

Calm down.  I am not actually pineapple. I just said that to draw scum into counter claiming me, because clearly whoever has pineapple is scum

It could be worse. I could be Canadian Bacon

Going to character claim right now. I am pineapple

Speeds vote was defensible but I am disappointed. 2 good players survive to mylo and I thought this game was I. The bag 

No discussion speeds 1st post is to VTL club. Discs 2nd post VTL club. GPs first post is to hammer. 

Worst case scenario this should have been a vtbl

I'm in, even though I am on a diet. As long. as the pizza is made of cauliflower crust

The fact pie fell for the oldest baiting trick in the world should be an instant lynch. It was a joke but honestly it worked out just like that gambit and pie responded exactly how scum would

That's true. Fuck his vote was already on him. Now I have to watch idiots waffle all over the correct decision. 

Actually very curious about what grey parrot has to say. I'm sure it is very useful information 

I think grey parrot hammered. Can you end the DP

I did not intentionally appear scummy as some ridiculous strategy. The fact you are claiming to do that shit is bothersome.  That sort of strategy is silly. 

Any interest in hammering pie before these nobs start there analysis of paralysis bullshit and fuck over town?

If you are a member of town who silenced him, out yourself.  Also stop using your tole for the rest of the game.  

I cannot get over press f soft claiming by saying his guy wasn't racist. Like how the fuck does that connect to his character 

I suspect GP has been silenced for some reason

Hey parrot. If you have been silenced vote for me to communicate that please 

What are your thoughts on the game? Are you bored with it? Why are you flying below the radar lately 

I don't know. I think their choice of an NK that narrows my scum pool so much was also silly. I know I try not to be domineering in the scum PM but I hate giving a shit about roles and I want to eliminate really pro town players instead

I am a perfectionist as well. I understand but my perfectionism is focused elsewhere.  The perfectionism has harmed my personal and professional life immensely, ass well as helping me obtain success extremely quickly at everything I attempt