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@RationalMadman
Chests are heads, gotcha.
- "veils" ("khumur") is a head covering, meaning to extend the veil down to the chest area as to not show the neck & decollete area...
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@RationalMadman,
I hope the men start supporting and protecting their women in the Iran protests, like good Muslim husbands and brothers should. Do not deny it, I know the Qur'an, blood before government
- It's God before everything. If God says blood then blood, if God says government then government. But yeah, for the subject, their responsibility to their family comes before that to the state. For the head of state, or acting on his behalf, their responsibility to the state comes before that to the family.
and there is no Quranic verse insisting on the head coverings.
- False. Only those who don't really know the religion say stuff like this. It's a divine obligation:
"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and guard their chastity. That is purer for them. Surely Allah is All-Aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, and not to reveal their adornments except what normally appears, and to draw their veils over their chests, and not reveal their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their fathers-in-law, their sons, their stepsons, their brothers, their brothers’ sons or sisters’ sons, their fellow women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants with no desire, or children who are still unaware of women’s private aspects." (Surah 24) - "O Prophet! Ask your wives, daughters, and believing women to draw their cloaks over their bodies. In this way it is more likely that they will be recognized as virtuous and not be harassed. And Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Surah 33). Though it is still not a major sin to not cover the head, whereas killing a inviolable person is a major sin warranting death in this life & eternal Hell in the next.
- That said. Something being an obligation or a prohibition does not grant the state authority to impose it by force. Lying is prohibited, the state can not go around checking the truth of every statement each person makes... But this type of state behavior is mostly seen is western bred brands of Islam, like Wahhabism & Khumeini Shiaism.
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@RationalMadman,
Islam is itself a fascist religion both theologically and politically via Sharia.
- Everybody seems to use that word these days, kinda makes you wonder. What does fascist exactly mean to you?
So, Nazis being anti-Islam benefits the stupidly naive left wing who openly embrace the religion without knowing its teachings, roots and nature once it starts to spread within a culture.
- I reckon knowing the thing is a prerequisite to embracing it. I don't think the 'stupidly naive left wing' will still be adopting LGBT+Feminism & all the other nonsense if they were, as you claim, openly embracing Islam... Try to be consistent.
I took the time and effort to study Islam to prove Islamophobes wrong,
- Why is this not believable...
all I ended up realising is that there is plenty to be phobic about if one is a left-wing progressive that wants liberty and democracy in their culture and nation.
- You go girl. Do absolutely not abandon that Liberty & Democracy of yours, lest others may find it more difficult to overpower you.
Not all immigrants and certainly not all cultures (with their ideologies attached) are good for a nation, many come from highly fascistic conservative cultures, if any side should believe in well screened immigration more than the other, it should be the left wing.
- By all means, please do. You shouldn't have any conservative nonsense in your nations. We want a 100% queer West.
We can agree that if I said these things irl or online with my full name etc attached right here, I would be a cancelled popsicle melting under the ire of cancel culture. That has nothing to do with left or right wing politics and everything to do with irrational tyranny fearing a voice of reason and bravery.
- How come you are defending the very thing for lack of the very thing that you are accusing others of... This 'left wing' thing looks pretty 'fascist' to me...
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@RationalMadman
- As long as the 'left wing liberals' adopt LGBT+Feminism they should fear even eskimos, for one day there may be more eskimos in the world. LGBT+Feminism is strictly unsustainable, it necessarily entails extinction.
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- The arguments hinges on five pillars:
1. That LGBT+Feminism is the shortest & amplest path to population collapse. White populations fertility is currently at about half replacement rate, & declining. This is the generation which grew up in the 70s & 80s, during 2nd & 3rd wave Feminism. The upcoming generation, of which close to half are LGBT+, will likely half the fertility, to probably quarter replacement rate; since LGBT+ contribution to fertility is, well, insignificant. Half replacement rate means half the population over a life expectancy cycle, idem for a quarter. Specifically, the 600 million Whites in the world will become 300 million by the end of the century at half replacement rate, & 150 million at quarter replacement rate.
2. That much of the world is largely immune to LGBT+Feminism, namely Africans, Indians, Chinese, & especially Muslims. No matter what the propaganda machine likes to make you believe, LGBT+Feminism can never penetrate these regions, for the simple fact that they have not (& will not) undergo the prerequisite changes which the West has undergone, at least not anytime soon. The West went through a radical rejection of family duty & hierarchy, in favour of maximum immediate pleasure. This came about after long periods of prosperity & degeneracy, with successive waves of feminism, the sexual revolution, abolishment of chastity laws, normalization of adultery & fornication, rejection of filial piety, decoupling of sex & child bearing in every way possible (abortion, contraception, adoption...)...etc. All this constituted a fertile ground for LGBT+Feminism rise & dominance in the West. Virtually none of this happened in much of the rest of the world; though, there will always be a tiny minority that worships the West in whatever they do, whose impact in the overall society is virtually null.
3. That "Man is capital" Ibn Khaldun. Meaning, the strength of nations & civilizations is ultimately population itself. At the height of the Colonial Period the urban population of the West constituted 2/3rd total global urban population. 5 decades ago, there were as many Americans living in cities as there were Indian & Chinese combined. Today more Chinese people live in cities in only 3 provinces than Americans do in all 50 states. It is not difficult to overpower & enslave the rest of the world when you have twice the urban, hence effective, population. It becomes increasingly difficult, indeed impossible, to do the same as that share shrinks, from 2/3rds a century ago, to a tenth of that a couple of decades in the future, even with the help of all the fake institutions the West created to compensate for loss of population, such as the UN, the Financial System, WTO, Reserve Currency...etc.
4. That the West is an undesirable & destructive influence in the world. They operate on three political principles: the world is essentially ours & just accidentally theirs - success is to maximize our present benefit (at the expense of theirs or future benefit) - & the ends justifies the means. The basis of Human Rights in the West is the nation-state, that is National Rights, thus, exclusively, guaranteed to nationals & none other. Necessarily, this comes at the expense of others, i.e. the rest of the world, in all forms of exploitations, interference, interventions, invasions...etc. Without the necessary power & domination, those aforementioned principles will simply become unattainable. Hence diminished influence.
5. That "the dominated always emulates the dominator" Ibn Khaldun. This goes for the West as well. Once others overpowers them (like is the case for much of History), they will naturally submit & emulate. This is inevitable due to White population collapse, thankfully. The result is that the cultures which nurture Family values will unavoidably overtake those who don't -by sheer population size, thus extinguishing LGBT+Feminism mores. Thereafter, the West shall go back to cherishing Family values again -i.e. Christianity & Islam, & thus the White population shall grow back to its former glory. Everybody wins.
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@Shila
How were the dindes reacting to the news?
- Probably more worried about their own necks being snapped for the pleasure of protestors.
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@Shila
What do the French call a turkey?dindeIn French, a turkey is a coq d'inde or dinde—a name that references India. This connection is also shared by a clutch of other European languages, including Polish (indyk), Basque (indioliar), and Armenian (hndikahav, literally “Indian chicken”)
- It originates in Arabic. Arabs called Turkey "Indian cock" or "Roman cock". The others, including the Turks, followed suit. The Turks call it 'Hindi' too.
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@Shila
One would expect you to spell Turkey differently so you are not laughed at.
- I love how Erdogan got the entire world to happily spell his country in -modern- Turkish. Even a quebequoi like you is championing it... On a different note, the quebequoi accent is my favorite French accent.
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@Shila
- Et ben alors, mais non quand meme. Surtout pas...
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@Shila
You are rather quiet on this subject. Are you on the side of the Iranian Morality police?
- Are you a robot? Blink if you're not.
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@Shila
You appear to disagree with Best.Korea who created this thread.I thought you would he happy someone is promoting Islam. But it appears you are more comfortable talking about other religions.
- On the contrary.
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@Best.Korea
@Shila
According to Best.Korea the author of this thread:
- What is it according to you?
So yeah, that is the beauty of islam.
- Haven't read the post, I figured it's BS.
The worlds fastest growing cult islam has many other beauties too:1) praying every day for Allah not to punish you
- And for everything else too.
2) getting circumcised
- At least we don't excise our genitals castrate our testicles & mutilate our breasts... Which reminds me, some companies in France are starting to ban their employees from using water for cleaning in toilets, because it's supposedly anti-French. You gotta keep your a**hole dirty, that's the French way. The nasties always believe their ways are better.
3) living in fear
- Of God the All-Powerful in transcendence, and Love for God the All-Merciful in immanence.
4) living life thinking you are an insignificant dust
- That's too much. All things are equally infinitely insignificant to God, anything else is delusion. We are nothing, for all things are from God, yet we are from God & for God. That is the ultimate honor & beauty in itself.
5) being told to sacrifice animals to Allah
- Rather by His name, since Life is sacred and beyond our given right, only by God's name or permission can one take it.
6) being told that all non muslims are evil
- Only God knows who is truly evil & who isn't, I don't recall Him telling us anything about that. A non-Muslim today may be a saint in God's eyes, an a pious Muslim today may be a Hell dweller in God's eyes. Nobody knows. What we have been told, however, is that 'evil' are those who know the Truth & reject it. Non-Muslims (or Muslims) who do not know the Truth or do not reject it are, hence, not punished.
So basically, if you like this kind of stuff, join islam. I am not gonna stop you
- It's not about liking. It's about the Truth. If you realize the Truth in Islam, then abide by it. If you don't, seek it somewhere else until you find it. If you're sincere you will find it, in Islam.
because my belief in self-determination doesnt allow me to decide about your life for you.
- Nonsense. You have no way of deciding people's beliefs to begin with. Instead, what you do is indoctrinate them from very young age through systematic & standardized institutions from Education to Media to Academia & so on, with your ideals & values, where no other paradigm is allowed; then dictate their practices & lifestyles for the rest of their lives through more systematic institutions like Justice & Law & Government according to *your* morality & worldview, where all others are subjugated & erased. "Self-determination" my foot.
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@Shila
The one you are responded to titled: The beauties of Islam.
- The subject thus being...?
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@SkepticalOne
- Indeed.Dishonesty.
- More confessions. Nice.
Well, I mean, it's not dishonesty...so there's that.
- I see you're repenting.
You've explained why you think my position is in error and my response has been wordplay, dishonesty, and snark.
- Keep up the confessions. So do you have an actual rebuttal or have you given up on debate?
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@Polytheist-Witch
- Fake news. Everybody knows exactly what's happening & pretend they don't know. One, Russia was given assurance that NATO may not expand eastwards upon dismantling of the USSR, which the US ignored & has been expanding to surround Russia ever since, first in Georgia & then in Ukraine. A powerful country like Russia will simply not stand to watch US troops & equipments stationed at its borders. If Russia sets up at the Mexican border, the US will lay waste to that entire country with everything they've got overnight. Two, the US doesn't really give a shit about Russia's plans in the Ukraine, they couldn't care less what happens to the Ukrainians. It's about building yet another leverage against Russia, to control trade & energy in the region. US ships & bases around the Black sea is not a pretty sight for the Russians. Third, the ruin of Ukraine is the most desirable outcome, for the more it's ruined the more it will lend itself in the loving arms of the West. Because the truly undesirable outcome is setting a precedent. Post-WWII & especially during the last decades the only countries which are allowed to invade other countries & lay waste to nations are the US & allies. If Russia succeeds in its invasion of Ukraine it will set a dangerous precedent undermining the global dominion of the West. Most notably it will greatly weaken the will of Taiwanese separatists against China, & embolden further countries to seek pre-colonial borders, eventually doing away with the international order & rules set up by the winners of WWII, mainly the US, the Soviet Union & Britain. – Hence, all the nonsense on the news 24/7 is just fake news.
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@SkepticalOne
Wordplay does not make my point. Atheism is definitionally a belief. Theism can be (and generally is) the absence of belief.
- Indeed.
Tell me you don't understand "atheism" without actually telling me? I think you nailed it! :-p
- These powerful arguments need to be displayed in museums for all to admire.
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@zedvictor4
And atheism is not a belief system.Atheists do not except the existence of a GOD or any GOD, that cannot be unequivocally be shown to exist.Therefore the concept of belief is irrelevant to an Atheist.Whereas brainwashed theists, have to rely upon belief, because they have nothing else, other than old stories written by their naive ancestors.
- Buddy, you seem to believe you're actually saying sensible things when you're just rambling. "brainwashed" "naive" doesn't save your nonsense, it just makes you look yourself brainwashed & naive.
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@zedvictor4
All your responses above, except for the last one, are fallacious.
- That's a very powerful refutation I almost fell off my chair.
Because my arguments relating to belief, are sound and irrefutable.You made no attempt to refute them.
- Already done. If you can't understand when you've been beat, I can't help you beyond that.
As for "valid pathways of knowledge":Well, that's just another more fanciful way of saying we can acquire and utilise data.
- For someone who seems to have a lot to say, why are you always running from debate? It can't be that you're afraid?
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@SkepticalOne
Atheism is not a belief - it is the absence of a belief in gods in general.
- Theism is not a belief - it is the absence of a belief in the inexistence of God.
The absence of a belief does not a worldview make.
- You're a lot dumber than I thought you were. So disappointed.
I would like to here your explanation.
- Hear*. Atheism entails an entire paradigm & worldview based not on the belief in God, which is unlike any belief system we've ever seen. A belief system truly devoid of any Morality, Rationality or Spirituality.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
- I have yet to see any specification of the debate topic to be broached.
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@FLRW
The point is that Einstein does not have numerous brain lesions that cloud his analysis of reality. The same could be said of Elon Musk.
- Einstein's speciality is in Physics, & that's that. Beyond Physics his opinion is of laity. Moreover, the value is in the strength of the argument, not the supposed intelligence of the user.
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I think you could just have posted this, the rest seemed like they could be true and weren't just your delusions of grandeur.
- Why does everything have to be about me? – The value is in the arguments one presents, not the scorns of delusion & emotional outbursts.
As for you thinking they don't have good reasoning etc. it's a baseless opinion you hold based on as little explanation as you gave to back it up (i.e. nothing at all)
- Have you studied Philosophy & Logic? I have. I can literally point out 20 logical fallacies per minute every time Dawkins opens his mouth. The best among the bunch is Hitchens, he's witty, which isn't much of anything in serious debate. Harris is a pathological liar, & thinks he is smarter for whatever reason. To be honest, I've never seen Dennet in a debate, so I can't judge. – You know who are actually good atheist apologists? Try Graham Oppy, he is all arguments & no nonsense rhetoric. He gets my respect. Why do you care about these though, aren't you Taoist???
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@Polytheist-Witch
Albert Einstein it's just another bigoted atheist so you're right, his opinion about religion is no different than anyone else's.
- Whether he was atheist or not is up for debate, I don't believe he was. But "bigoted" is too strong. Einstein was much more honest in his quests than most deluded atheists.
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@RationalMadman,
If an atheist showed up to Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris and Daniel Dennet (in their prime) for a debate, they'd get bodied so hard they wouldn't know what they'd walked into.
- LMAO! They all morons with zero grounding in Logic & Philosophy, or Science for that matter.
You can hate the player but at least appreciate their skill at the game.
- They have skill alright, in bullshitting & bullying people dumber than they are. Have you ever seen these bozos debating anyone of any credible worth? No.
The reason why Theists stay away from science and atheistic/secular forums is that they get murked when they try to debate.
- Is that so...? Care to have a debate about Science then? Nobody here except me knows jack schitt about serious sciences, at least as far as I've seen. Go home please!
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@Polytheist-Witch
I have to wonder why the adults (atheists) insist on playing with what they view as children (theists) it's kind of creepy.
- It's generally the other way around. Atheists are usually child-minded "adults". Senseless, fussy, rebellious, emotional...
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@3RU7AL
well stated
- So you're a fan of self-contradictions too?
religion is like training-wheels for self knowledge
- What's the point of analogy in this comparison?
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@zedvictor4
I do not believe anything that cannot be unequivocally proven.
- You just negated yourself. You seem to believe that, yet it's not unequivocally proven.
Though, if something can be unequivocally proven, then belief is unnecessary.
- This literally contradicts the previous statement.
So as far as I am concerned, any theist who says that they believe, is actually saying that they cannot unequivocally prove the basis of their belief.
- Another belief which isn't unequivocally proven. Damn bruh, pipe down on the contradictions.
Belief:1. An acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.
- This contradicts your first statement. Also, belief is knowledge from judgment, regardless of the validity of such judgement.
Synonyms.....guess . speculation . surmise . fancy . notion . suspicion . presumption . assumption . theory . hypothesis . postulation . inference . extrapolation . projection . approximation . rough calculation . rough idea . guesswork . guessing . surmising . imagining . theorizing.
- All the above are valid paths of knowledge. This probably sounded much better in your head. – Why don't you answer in simple honesty, instead of with these haughty claims.
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@SkepticalOne
My religious view is atheism. Given that atheism is not a knowledge claim (at least not for me),
- It is, regardless of your wishes. The moment you have a view, you're in the provision of belief.
I know everything there is to know about it. 10/10
- For consistency sake that should be 0/10. Also, Atheism is an ideology in itself, a worldview. How deep is your knowledge of it?
How convinced am I that my religious position is correct: 9/10
- That's quite something, given Atheism is unattainable.
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@BrotherD.Thomas
- Mr. Masochist, I'm not your dom. Debate or skate. If you wish to debate, first specify the topic of debate, we shall then go from there.
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@zedvictor4
What is your definition of "Normal People" ?
- Refer to OP.
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@sadolite
I don't see the US existing in 100 years. How could it? Its run by tyrants with child like minds. Don't see that ever changing. Just going down hill with each passing year. The US is the Weimar Republic on steroids. I think The US will split into smaller countries to escape the tyrannical dictatorial oppression of the socialist/communist loving US Govt. The country is split right down the middle and neither side wants anything to do with the other side. There is 0 common ground, none. Its time for states to start seceding so like minded people can live in peace with each other and prosper instead of having the US federal govt spend our futures into fiscal oblivion like it is doing now. There is no prosperous future with the US federal govt at the wheel.
- Polarization is surging. As you said, common grounds are shrinking. Antagonism is brewing...etc, & almost half the people are armed (there are more guns than people in the US)... Do you see any possibility of civil war arising from these conditions?
I see absolutely no hope for my children, none.
- That's the fruit of the Liberalist Capitalist Nationalist system. Maximization of self-gratification, profit & national interests in the immediate present, at the expense of others & own future, will inevitably be paid for by the succeeding generations.
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@FLRW
Albert Einstein says it all: “The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive, legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.”
- Now Einstein is a philosopher & a theologian? This does not speak of the truth of the Bible.
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@RationalMadman,
I am not hardcore in my practise of Taoism, Taoism cannot be hardcore due to its very belief im balance.
- That's the practitioner's prerogative. Given circumstances, people tend to extremes.
I am also a believer in my own religion that just happened to have a lot in common with Taoism.
- What's your religion? I was sure you were taoist the moment I noticed you shitting on Buddhism.
What is it that yoy want to know about Taoism woth regards to this thread?
- What exactly do you believe about Taoism? Are you into the celestial stuff & the Yin-Yang or just follow the Dao?
I am a pagan not just a taoist, I have my own conclusions.
- Specifically what?
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@Tradesecret
In Christianity we experience true spirituality as well.
- No. You don't even know what I'am talking about.
We don't however base this on a feeling though, like Islam.
- You keep confusing your faith with mine.
It is not fear or love. Or a warm fuzzy out of this world experience.
- You just said you don't have proof for your faith!
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@Tradesecret
I don't think there is an undeniable proof that the bible is true. It would depend upon the measure of truth in the first place and by what measure of truth would be acceptable.
- What's the best you got?
As far as I am concerned however the Bible is infallible. It is inerrant. It is entirely trustworthy. It reliable.
- What proof do you have to believe this?
Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life".Jesus is the embodiment of truth.
- That sounds circular. What proof you have that Jesus (pbuh) said those words & not the author of the gospel.
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@Intelligence_06
It will just be LGBTQ+. You guys don't know what "+" means?
- They don't want to be designated as "+", they want their own letter in the string.
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@SkepticalOne
I have a debate coming on morality - one is enough.
- More dodging. Damn!
If this thread is any indication of your debate tactics, an opponent is optional for you. You are quite the crafter of strawman and dodger of criticism. ;-)
- Just say "I concede" instead of these save face antics. It's ok.
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@Bones
Honestly I don't even know what my politics, it's very central. I see stupid things in both the left and right.
- Too much of that indeed, but you gotta get those votes amirite.
In terms of religion, I am an atheist.
- So the extra 1 of doubt is just for the heck of it.
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@SkepticalOne
It sounds like you're saying sex with children is acceptable if they are married. I will give you the benefit of a doubt and assume you did not communicate that well.
- Nice dodge, almost. Why do you act so childish, you're not fooling anyone. It's ok to assume depravity. Sexual liberty & free love, remember?
Not when one of the parties is 9.
- Let it go, your denial is meaningless. Many US states have no minimum age of marriage, this is trues elsewhere as well.
Someone who is 9 can not give informed consent to sex and/or marriage.
- Nonsense. That's not even true, & it is also an is-ought-to fallacy. Consent laws today, & since the 80s, are not about actual ability to consent as they are about statutory rape, i.e. age-span laws. Content laws prior had to do with preserving chastity, for it was seen as a commodity; because their chastity was seen as particularly precious, young girls were felt to be especially in need of protection. Thus it was a crime to tempt them into sex, unless the female is your wife. In the past century, these laws ranged from 7 to 21 in the US. Chastity defense died out in the legal framework with the coming of 2nd wave feminism in the 1980s, for obvious reasons, with the introduction instead of age-span provisions.
That is why pedophilia is considered predatory
- So was homosexuality seen as predatory, & all stigmatized sexual relations. These are just after the fact excuses to explain one's bias, which naturally go away with destigmatization. All the arguments against gay marriage are gone now, so will the arguments against trans gender/sex nonsense, once the issue is normalized within the coming years. – Forceful sex against unchaste girls then wasn't even considered rape. What you feel now is the case is no justification for future liberties. You're, by design, just as bigoted to your successors as your predecessors are to you.
- someone old enough to understand the scenario is taking advantage of someone who is not.
- Same BS. Here we go again, the initiative cause of "Free Love" & "Sexual Freedom" born out of the French postmodernist movement lead by intellectuals like Foucault, De Beauvoir, Sarter & others, which spread to the US in the 60s & 70s, did not aim to legalize only homosexuality. They called for decriminalization of all consensual relationships, including between adults & minors & zoophilic relations. In 1977 a petition to abolish consent laws in France was issued to the French Parliament & signed by 70 prominent intellectuals. Their rationale being – that maintaining consent laws, which were priorly set to protect the chastity of young girls, when chastity is no more a concern, is to create a criminal class of adults without any actual crimes committed, predicated that adults are criminals by virtue of being just adults – that to claim a child is incapable of consent is preposterous, for they are sexually aware & do effectively & normally consent to sexual acts (with other so called minors) – & that consent laws are predicated on a contractual condition, of mutual agreement, without a contract, hence void laws. Indeed, all sound & valid arguments.
Perhaps, but if we allow it, our moral compass is honed by a greater understanding of humanity.
- This is a bunch of drivel. Feel-good nonsense. Here I thought you did Philosophy. What you're saying stems from the belief that 'newer is better', which is a self-negating stance, for every newer is thereafter older. Your moral "improved" standards of today are, in effect, deteriorations to your predecessors. By the same token, tomorrow's moral standards -when incest, zoophilia, pedophilia & such become norm (naturally from sexual liberalism)- are not seen as improvements to today's standards either, for if that were the case, these future standards would've already been adopted today. This makes your Western system akin to a tribal system, where laws are effectively customary & morality is constantly changing in accordance to social norms & whims - Except, these changes are made to be universal at each turn, & constantly expected from other societies too.
I will take an incomplete morality over a rigidly flawed 7th century morality which does not allow for the insights new information can provide.
- More BS. You know the true difference? The latter stands on rigid foundations, from where it improves & adapts, while the former undermines its own foundations constantly, thus improvement is absurd, for improvement entails an objective reference -else all is equal. Why don't we have a debate about this 7th century morality against yours?
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@Reece101
What actually’s tiring is typing walls of information for us to only speak past each other.
- You'd have better chances if you had used your brains to debate instead of doing these dodging tactics.
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@Lemming
If I believed in God, and had a clear idea of God, I think there is a strong likelihood I would.But I no longer believe.
- Who knows, maybe you only need a moment of sincerity. You sound like a nice guy.
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@oromagi
Speaking of extrapolating on populations, did you read that poem I wrote last weekend and posted in ARTISTIC EXPRESSIONS?
- Hmm... whatever happened to that dude?
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@Lemming
eys, no.Military was 'meant to be one, as I'm not a very motivated person myself, figured the military would 'force me to travel, experience a bit more, but I ended up in one place for four years after training.Saved up a fair bit of money during the military, but lent most of it to my mother, as she was buying a house, bigger down payment, meant she could afford a nicer house.So I'm saving up money again, perhaps for a year, perhaps for five,Perhaps rethink my life, options again at that point.Depending on how my father is doing, I worry I might lend my money again, though I'd rather not, I 'do feel a strong obligation, and likely the money will return someday.Still. . . Even if the money saved just goes to myself, it'll only go towards a yet seen venture, to gain more money.That sooner, rather than later, I can 'stop having to work.. . .Of an intellectual or spiritual journey,I know there is still more to learn,And I haven't stopped 'thinking, quite.Still read, talk to people,But. . . I 'think my values have already undergone their journey, X many years since High School.May change again, but f
- Interesting! Gift that owed money to your mother, it will come back to you ten fold. Do it with sincerity & God will guide you towards Him.
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@oromagi
On the subject of gay rights? I was that 2% you talk of.
- Then why are you extrapolating on the rest of the population!?
Yes, I am assuming that I know more about the subject than you
- Yeah, no. That much is obvious, the moment you started saying false things.
Why, what do you know about being gay?
- That's entirely besides the point. You being gay doesn't warrant you inherent knowledge in History, Psychology or else. Why are you so adamant at depriving others their cause to free love, accusing them of the same stigma of perversion which you have been accused a generation ago. That's just hypocritical & warrants no right for you to speak of other people's sexual stigmas.
and yet somehow you don't make that connection, right? Do you really think most wives would testify to see their husbands executed, even if they'd been raped by him every night for 20 years?
- Isn't this very funny. A husband having sex with his wife isn't rape, even if forceful, for marriage contract itself is written consent. That's an entirely different crime than rape, & obviously does not merit death penalty.
This measure by itself has to power to suppress most incidents of rape in Pakistan, yet you don't see it.
- Death penalty is extremely effective, so are harsh punishments for violent crimes. A man raped his daughter in Sweden hundreds of times, they gave him 3 years. I would've just cut off his head. No one else would dare do it again.
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@Lemming
Do you mean what actions do I take on account of how much I believe of and in?
Well, for myself I think,
Materialism, has lead to Nihilism, has lead to Atheism, has lead to Existentialism, has lead to Hedonism, Egoism, Limited Altruism, and Nationalism.
American Law/Customs/Ethics, World History, has lead to American Law/Customs/Ethics, and Nationalism.
I suppose my life plans are to save up money and enjoy life in my hobbies and small wealth.
Be a 'very small help to people who cross my path at times.
I 'do have ideals, opinions on politics, social values,
But I'm not much inclined to dedicate myself to it.
- So no journey you are in?
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