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@SirAnonymous
I just don't see a noob getting involve in the discussion at all.
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@Vader
Yeah, exactly. As town. Hence, not scum. That's my argument. This is GP town doing this, not a scum GP doing this.
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Everyone should be character in PM analysis. Mod explicitly says that discussion about "PM structure" are forbidden. As it is, my PM has no justification.
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@Vader
So you're saying GP, as scum, has claimed main character early on... to distract scum from targetting him?yes...cause he has done that in the past. probably to distract scum from targetting him
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@SirAnonymous
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@Lunatic
Based on GP's behavior in your game, do you think he would voluntarily full claim a main character DP1? Even if it was given to Mafia as a fake claim?
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UVC
Sir - 6/7 - AROSE, Supa, Speed, Wylted, Water, drafterman
Supa - 1/7 - grey
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I put GP in my town pile as well.
Right now it looks like SA is the lynch. Mechanically I'm for it, since it'll give insight as to potential theme analysis. I have a hunch it's pro-Mike/anti-Mike meaning characters like AJ and Toby are Scum claims. SA's flip will feed into that.
My other issue is that he almost seems like he is feigning ignorance and innocence about Mafia, then turns around and shows particular experienced insight.
However, part of me feels it would be hypocritical to FOS him because of that, if only because I was treated the same way when I first started playing (Remember when you thought I was askbob, Lunatic?)
This DP is starting to get off of the rails (I'm partially at fault, here). At some point we reach information saturation and it just becomes noise.
With that said: VTL SA
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Claims
12. A-R-O-S-E - Ryan
8. Greyparrot - Jim Halpert - Vanilla
1. SirAnonymous - A.J. - Vanilla
4. PressF - Dwight Schrute - Cop
11. Airmax1227 - Toby Flenderson
Unclaimed
2. iLikePie5
3. drafterman
5. Supa
6. Oromagi
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace
10. WaterPhoenix
13. Wylted
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Sir - 5/7 - AROSE, Supa, Speed, Wylted, Water
Supa - 1/7 - grey
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@Vader
Mod literally says that characters aren't necessarily linked to roles.
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@Athias
Part of what? You either reject the premise that minimum wage is sufficient or you don't.
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I think both press and speed are town.
I'm more interested in the response to SA than SA themselves. For example, I'd judged Oro to be more considerate in his lunch targets but he readily goes with the pressure on SA, more readily than I'd expect.
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@Athias
The rest of your post is contingent on the minimum wage not being sufficient. Do you concede that?
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@Athias
If you're only response amounts to "Nuh uh," then I have no response.
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@Vader
Let's talk when you aren't 0-2 v. Me.Drafter's play is inherently good, but inherently bad. Sometimes he's smart, sometimes he's very ehhh. Good player, but his strat is ehhh.Speed is a knockoff Drafter
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Also, if press is town pgo, then he's just baited protective roles and such as well, (not to mention risking being ccd by a real cop). It's as bout as antitown as you can get.
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All mafia has to lie.
Town has to lynch all Mafia.
If you lynch all Liars, you lynch all Mafia.
Town wins.
QED
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@Lunatic
Yeah, there are lots of tools for finding scum. So why people would resort to lying is a mystery.
And, yes, if Press is lying, he should get lynched.
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@Speedrace
So you think Press is town lying about his role to bait the Mafia kill and so you decided to call him out on it?
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@Lunatic
It isn't about punishing people you think are Town for lying. It's about the fact that the only people that have to lie are the Mafia and if we allow lying to be acceptable we lose a valuable tool for finding and lynching them.
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@Lunatic
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My PM has absolutely no justification linking character and role. Pushing for justification is mildly scummy in this setup.
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Claims
12. A-R-O-S-E - "ByEkLsT"
8. Greyparrot - Jim Halpert - Vanilla
1. SirAnonymous - A.J. - Vanilla
4. PressF - Dwight Schrute - Cop
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2. iLikePie5
3. drafterman
5. Supa
6. Oromagi
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace
10. WaterPhoenix
11. Airmax1227
13. Wylted
UVC
Sir - 3/7 - Supa, oro, AROSE
Supa - 1/7 - grey
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I'm still on the fence about whether it's sufficient to lynch Sir. I'm also at a show tonight so will be away for much of tonight.
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Reading is just the hoity toity thing people do who are too lazy to be farming sun up to sun down.
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It's an obscure claim. Meaning it could be scum trying to avoid a CC. But if he hasn't seen the office, it's unlikely he'd just come up with that on his own. But we're only taking his word he hasn't seen the office. Also, any idiot can look at a wiki.
But it's more than that. There is a thematic split. Is it pro-michael/anti-michael? Is it Scranton branch vs. other branches?
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You claimed your role because you were voted but you were also asked to claim your character but having.
but haven't*
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Claims
12. A-R-O-S-E - "ByEkLsT"
8. Greyparrot - Jim Halpert - Vanilla
1. SirAnonymous - ???? - Vanilla
No Claims
2. iLikePie5
3. drafterman
4. PressF
5. Supa
6. Oromagi
7. Lunatic
9. Speedrace
10. WaterPhoenix
11. Airmax1227
13. Wylted
UVC
Sir - 1/7 - drafter
Supa - 1/7 - grey
max - 1/7 - oro
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@SirAnonymous
You still haven't told us your character. IMO you're coming off as trying to play both sides of the field. On the one hand, omg you're this noob who doesn't know what he is doing or what's going on, on the other hand, you've played Mafia before and allegedly know the mechanics and how things work.
You claimed your role because you were voted but you were also asked to claim your character but having.
This dichotomy is a bit striking.
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What ever happened to first level pressure results in character claim and you had to pressure more for role claim?
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No one should be claiming roles anyway. How do you think I was able to off all the power roles in TUF's last game?
All the Vanillas outed themselves.
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@oromagi
Going off of a hunch, I'd say 3.
Going off of the mod explicitly saying that there is 3, I'd also say 3.
But who knows.
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Lynch Sir for not watching the Office. Seriously, that's unforgivable.
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@SirAnonymous
Typically, in almost all forms, with nothing to go on, there is a somewhat random voting phase, if only to see how people react. There really is no "why" about it.
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@SirAnonymous
As I said before the game started, I have played mafia live
And how did they handle the first day phase?
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@Lunatic
I only know AROSE as Town so far. And he likes to make and stick to making suboptimal gambits.
Seems to be a theme in the current meta.
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@Mharman
warren is good. You are free to post your sign-ups whenever you are ready. The sooner the better.
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If Mharman hasn't posted sign-ups by the time warren's game starts, I think the next person in line should go and Mharman moved to inactive list.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
So you're laughing at someone at their expense because you're bored?
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I've never seen people so vehemently and vitriolically argue against something that doesn't affect them in the slightest.
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