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@WyIted
I think you went may have went a little too high
True, on two occasions as 17 year old and 20 year old. Aka drug induced psychosis. I was dumb the first time and suppose dumber the 2nd time, because of the first time.
Fortunately my two closet friends were there to babysit me for a few hours on both occasions.
Unlike drunkards, I was able to recall the next day all that occurred.
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Liking it doesn't make it the best but ProtonVPN is superior to Opera's for sure.
I agree on both your assessments. Thats about normal for you and I. Yay!
Glad your back. This place is just not the same without you. Even tho they still blocking me.
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@sadolite
Eh, OK whatever
Or your might say --as the actor joe Friday in the 60's tv series Dragnet would, say, ' just the facts '.
..." You might nod at this and say, "As Joe Friday always said, 'Just the facts, ma'am."
..This is the most famous Joe Friday quote ever. The only problem with it is that Joe Friday never actually said that. Something like it was said on a Stan Freberg Parody record of Dragnet, and it became a common legend, but Sergeant Friday never uttered the phrase. "..
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@sadolite
Most popular unisex names
Most Popular Unisex/Gender-Neutral Names
- Andy
- Aubrey
- Morgan
- Finley
- Charlie
- Sawyer
- Logan
- Skyler
- Casey
- Justice
- Quinn
- Blake
- Sam
- Parker
- Jordan
- Drew
- Alex
- Hayden
- Jessie
- Rileyhttps://www.lamaze.org/Giving-Birth-with-Confidence/GBWC-Post/top-20-baby-names-most-popular-vs-most-rare
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@Theweakeredge
'Thinking is the best way to travel
You can fly as high as you want to, faster than light if you want to,
Speeding through the Universe, thinking is the best way to travel ' If you have stereo that is best way to listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqOiZjwQKaU
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Yay, rational madman is back! Even tho they still have me blocked.
I been using free Proton VPN for month or so. I like it.
I been using free Proton VPN for month or so. I like it.
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@Greyparrot
Lol, trust Bezos for accurate doxxing information.
Trumpet = lack of moral integrity.
Ergo, MAGA = lack of moral integrity, ergo,
OGP = lack of moral integrity.
Working or not is irrelevant to OGP's moral integrity? I dunno.
Maybe -Iroosvelt can speak to that better than I can. I dunno
Working or not is irrelevant to OGP's moral integrity? I dunno.
Maybe -Iroosvelt can speak to that better than I can. I dunno
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@Greyparrot
Yes, trust Bezos. The best truth money can buy.
Hope you can get back to work soon.
Out of work is not helping you intellectual or moral integrity.
Out of work is not helping you intellectual or moral integrity.
MAGA = OGP = Trumpet is God rise evangelicals and make Trumpet great again.
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@IlDiavolo
Moderation/modification of angle { angel of degree } and frequency { time }.
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@Greyparrot
Lol, Bezos has spoken.
Truth is truth irrespective of who states it.
You fear of any truth about Trumpet that shows his lack of moral integrity.
You fear of any truth about Trumpet that shows his lack of moral integrity.
MAGA = Orange Grey Parrot on steroids
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@Deb-8-a-bull
Knowledge that 1 + 1 is not 73
Tell that to a bacteria.
Biodiversity = to fill any vacuum niche abilities to proliferate and increase complexity via syntropy.
42 = aka 6 { pure } * 7 { diversity } is answer i.e. purity times diversity
Biodiversity = to fill any vacuum niche abilities to proliferate and increase complexity via syntropy.
42 = aka 6 { pure } * 7 { diversity } is answer i.e. purity times diversity
9 = Agent of Change via fluctuation ability within the quantum pulse { 1 - 13p }
5 = alternative/optional pathways ...golden mean phi see also fibonacci { 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 }
1, 1, 2, 3, total as 7 { Agent of Diversity }
0, 1 = binary and leaves 1, 2, 3 to total as 6 { pure bilateral structure-3 }
Systemic 4 is missing ergo 5 takes alternative/optional pathway for systemic integrity, however, 5 includes 4 { systemic integrity }
Systemic 4 is missing ergo 5 takes alternative/optional pathway for systemic integrity, however, 5 includes 4 { systemic integrity }
55 is the 9th { Agent of Change } integer if we exclude binary 0,1 i.e. 1, 2p, 3p, 5p, 8, 13p, 21, 34, 55
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@sadolite
With all that said, nothing good will come from the advancement of AI.
I agree, except there is good and bad resultants of AI,
The degree of bad vs good is an unknown, that, leaves us open to instinctive speculations based on what we do know from experience.
We have been gathering info on Erratic Climate Change since first days of Greenhouse Gases knowledge, from our experiences, and we see how well humans have responded to that threat, and,
We have been gathering info on Erratic Climate Change since first days of Greenhouse Gases knowledge, from our experiences, and we see how well humans have responded to that threat, and,
even tho we did respond to M.A.Destruction in early 90's, there still exist enough hydrogen bombs to annihilate humanity, within much shorter time than Erratic Climate Change.
Hydrogen bomb decimation >
> > > > > > Erratic Climate Change >
> > > > > > Erratic Climate Change >
> > > > > > > > Artificial General Intelligence { AGI }
.........space..........AGI..........space....... ? 0-AGI-1 ?
.........space.......( * i * ).......space...... bilateral humans with access to ego
..........space..........@..........space...... finite occupied space Universe
.." The Unstoppable Rise of Spark ✨, as Ai’s Iconic Symbol "..
.." The common AI icon, featuring a human head or a robot's face with circuit-like patterns, serves as a visual representation of the integration of human intelligence with technology.
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@sadolite
Its is similar to how calculating machines came into existence, and now the actual math processsing to arrive a conclusion was done for those people, who prior to calculators, did long hand division, multiplication etc and new the pathways from beginning to end resultant values
Abacus --- the oldest have 13 columns...." A tablet found on the Greek island Salamis in 1846 AD (the Salamis Tablet) dates to 300 BC, making it the oldest counting board discovered so far. "...
..." The earliest known calculating device is probably the abacus. It dates back at least to 1100 bce and is still in use today, particularly in Asia "...
Calxulators
Logrithms 1614.... ..." In 1620 Edmund Gunter, the English mathematician who coined the terms cosine and cotangent, built a device for performing navigational calculations: the Gunter scale, or, as navigators simply called it, the gunter. About 1632 an English clergyman and mathematician named William Oughtred built the first slide rule, drawing on Napier’s ideas. "....
..." The Jacquard loom was a marvel of the Industrial Revolution. A textile-weaving loom, it could also be called the first practical information-processing device. The loom worked by tugging various-coloured threads into patterns by means of an array of rods. "...
AI ---- " At the beginning of 1950, John Von Neumann and Alan Turing did not create the term AI but were the founding fathers of the technology behind it: they made the transition from computers to 19th century decimal logic (which thus dealt with values from 0 to 9) and machines to binary logic "..
..." The term "AI" could be attributed to John McCarthy of MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), which Marvin Minsky (Carnegie-Mellon University) defines as "the construction of computer programs that engage in tasks that are currently more satisfactorily performed by human beings because they require high-level mental processes such as: perceptual learning, memory organization and critical reasoning. The summer 1956 conference at Dartmouth College (funded by the Rockefeller Institute) is considered the founder of the discipline. Anecdotally, it is worth noting the great success of what was not a conference but rather a workshop. Only six people, including McCarthy and Minsky, had remained consistently present throughout this work (which relied essentially on developments based on formal logic). "..
https://www.coe.int/en/web/artificial-intelligence/history-of-ai
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@Mall
What "racist" policies came out of the Trump administration?
I dunno off hand. See post 22 with the Vox link, some of which I copied and posted
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@zedvictor4
Yes, and many other things and resultants of vibrating air molecules, water molecules, dirt, rock etc.
Static noise on radio caused by interfering EMRadiation frequencies of streaming photons.
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@Mall
So did minorities vote for a known so called racist?
My guess is some do. Circumstances altar cases.
I think FLWR may address that early in this thread.
Remmber, some people put their personal future ahead of this or that, inconvenience of appearance or other i.e. better ultra-conservative republican, who has to eat a little Jim Crow, than a democrat, or other similar type scenarios.
Rarely is all one way or the other when considering generalized set of circumstances on Earth and humanity.
Rarely is all one way or the other when considering generalized set of circumstances on Earth and humanity.
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@Mall
The better question is, when was Trumpet not a racist? Ages 1 - 4.
Part 1..." On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly made explicitly racist and otherwise bigoted remarks, from calling Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists, to proposing a ban on all Muslims entering the US, to suggesting a judge should recuse himself from a case solely because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.
The trend has continued into his presidency. From stereotyping a Black reporter to pandering to white supremacists after they held a violent rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, to making a joke about the Trail of Tears, Trump hasn’t stopped with racist acts after his 2016 election.
Most recently, Trump has called the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus the “Chinese virus” and “kung flu” — racist terms that tap into the kind of xenophobia that he latched onto during his 2016 presidential campaign; Trump’s own adviser, Kellyanne Conway, previously called “kung flu” a “highly offensive” term. And Trump insinuated that Sen. Kamala Harris, who’s Black, “doesn’t meet the requirements” to run for vice president — a repeat of the birther conspiracy theory that he perpetuated about former President Barack Obama.
This is nothing new for Trump. In fact, the very first time Trump appeared in the pages of the New York Times, back in the 1970s, was when the US Department of Justice sued him for racial discrimination. Since then, he has repeatedly appeared in newspaper pages across the world as he inspired more similar controversies.''
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1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
- 1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
- 1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
- 1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
- 1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
- 1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
- 2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
- 2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
- 2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
- 2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
- 2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
- 2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”
For many people, none of these incidents, individually, may be damning: One of these alone might suggest that Trump is simply a bad speaker and perhaps racially insensitive (“politically incorrect,” as he would put it), but not overtly racist.
But when you put all these events together, a clear pattern emerges. At the very least, Trump has a history of playing into people’s racism to bolster himself — and that likely says something about him, too.
And, of course, there’s everything that’s happened through and since his presidential campaign.
As a candidate and president, Trump has made many more racist comments "...
Racist 1: proud racist,
Racist 2: political racist { Trump } plays to racists overtly ---see all of the above etc---
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@zedvictor4
Motion of air molecules are one way to have sound and noise, if the only way. Check your facts.
Motion of air molecules can cause dust in eyes,
....dust in ears { ergo clogged ears ergo less or no sound/noise heard },
...dust in eyes { scratched eyes } are resultant accidents on foot, bicyle, vehicle etc,
Motion of air molecules can cause dust in eyes,
....dust in ears { ergo clogged ears ergo less or no sound/noise heard },
...dust in eyes { scratched eyes } are resultant accidents on foot, bicyle, vehicle etc,
....dust in mouth, throat lungs etc.
....dust on windshield of vechicle ergo potential accident.
.....enhanced pollen count, ergo allergic reactions,
....trees, sheds, houses blown over creating dust,
.... the list of resultants from viibrating motion air molecules is longer than I have time for,
.....ex plane crashes and more
....trees, sheds, houses blown over creating dust,
.... the list of resultants from viibrating motion air molecules is longer than I have time for,
.....ex plane crashes and more
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@zedvictor4
Vibrating air molecules is not and error.
Trees falling in yard, forest, highway have multiple effect as you debate with yourself and a sound is, what a noise etc.
When the ground is hit, ground vibrates and have there effects on ground creatures and infra-structure, as well creating new air molecule vibrations also.
Observation takes place in many ways many creatures and human made instruments.
There there is the also the old butterfly effect. You may not recall that one.
There there is the also the old butterfly effect. You may not recall that one.
..." Although the concept of the butterfly effect has long been debated, the identification of it as a distinct effect is credited to Edward Lorenz (1917–2008). Lorenz was a meteorologist and mathematician who successfully combined the two disciplines to create chaos theory. During the 1950s, Lorenz searched for a means of predicting the weather, as he found linear models to be ineffective. "....
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@zedvictor4
Not noise.
Zed how many times have I posted vibrating air molecules?
Acknowledge truth, facts, etc when presented to you. Simple.
Continuing to avoid, by running around the edges, looking for fissures of picky word error/correction refinements is fine { to some degree }, as long as you do the other above also.
Air molecules affect not only ear function ergo brains, --ergo a noise-- air molecules also effect other trees, snakes and snakes dont use the words, noise, air molecules vibrating, tho that is what both are.
Flying insects..."
They hear by means of ears (a tympanic membrane with nerve fibers attached) and by very delicate hairs (trichobothria, sensilla) that respond to vibrations in the air. Sound is very important to insects in courtship. Why do flies and mosquitoes make a high-pitched buzzing sound when they fly? "..
Worms etc ...affected by ground vibrations of fallen tree.
Then there is long term resultants effects of a tree falling and fallen in forest, yard, street etc.
Worms etc ...affected by ground vibrations of fallen tree.
Then there is long term resultants effects of a tree falling and fallen in forest, yard, street etc.
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@n8nrgim
the proof is in the pudding. the pudding is in the crust. plus, e = mc squared. whence, i think, therefore, i am. harvester of land, taken of the fallen lamb.
And this text is suppose to somehow relate to any specific comments by me???? Sorry i dont see any logical, common sense critical thinking relevancy there.
E for effort tho?
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@Sidewalker
1} Q.E.D. R P Feynman, forget what anyone told you about a photon being a wave, we only observe it as a particle.
2} Wave = Meta { beyond }-space mind/intellect/concept ex here is Euclidean { straight lines } wave /\/\/\/\/\/\ ergo a geometric pattnrn. see #7 below
3} Particle = 3D volumetric and the minimal volumetric shape of Universe, is a tetrahedron \Y/ { 4 vertexes of subdivided triangle }
3} Particle = 3D volumetric and the minimal volumetric shape of Universe, is a tetrahedron \Y/ { 4 vertexes of subdivided triangle }
Wolfram..." The tetrahedral graph is the line graph of the star graph , and the line graph of the tetrahedral graph is the octahedral graph. "...
4} A photon does not "come into being" --being meaning as occupied space--- from a truly non-occupied space. It comes into being from EMRadiational Field
5} The minimal field is no less that two lines \/ as vector set of one or more trajectories /\ with an angle ---angle with some degree value less than 180--- having momentum and direction.
6} the minimal excitation \/\/\/ of a the EM-Field is no less than 6 lines/edges/chords/vectors of a 3D volumetric tetrahedron /\/\/\ even if some instruments show a single blip ex /\
5} The minimal field is no less that two lines \/ as vector set of one or more trajectories /\ with an angle ---angle with some degree value less than 180--- having momentum and direction.
6} the minimal excitation \/\/\/ of a the EM-Field is no less than 6 lines/edges/chords/vectors of a 3D volumetric tetrahedron /\/\/\ even if some instruments show a single blip ex /\
7} think of a stream of photons as your arm and hand as particles. Hold your arm-hand out in front of you and move it laterally either direction, while raising your arm, higher and lower, so as to create a sine-wave-like pattern /\/\/\/\/. Now stop moving your arm hand. We still see the stream of photons as arm hand set of particles.
Our Meta { beyond }-space mind/intellect/concept accessing brain, no longer imagine a sine-wave pattern, except as a memory from what it imagined to exist when the arm-hand was moving/motion/dynamic pattern of existence.
Our Meta { beyond }-space mind/intellect/concept accessing brain, no longer imagine a sine-wave pattern, except as a memory from what it imagined to exist when the arm-hand was moving/motion/dynamic pattern of existence.
What is it about motion, that, influences reality? The geometric shape of a set of atoms > molecules > substance varies dynamic efficiency in car wing of plane etc. So the two work in complement with each other, so-to-say.
Know this, a Euclidean cubo-octahedrons { Vector Equilibrium-VE }, four bisecting hexagonal areas sum-total, are not equal to the 8 triangle and 6 square surface planes. In fact the outer set of areas, if I recall correctly, are slightly less than the four hexagons total surface area. 0.1 or 0.2 in differrence. Wish I still had that info at hand.
However, if make each straight edge hexagon a circle, the four bisecting planar areas are equal to the surface of the now, perfect s cubo-octahedron { VE } sphere.
Archimedes was the first to discover this. So we see, that, a conceptual curving of a polygon, --implied dynamic of spin--- effects its overall area relationships vs the straight line considerations. So does this mean geodesic curvature is less effective than straight line Euclidean? More effective?
Recall also, that what ever exists in a static/stationary 3D black hole, is said to be represented holographically on its 2D surface area.
However, if make each straight edge hexagon a circle, the four bisecting planar areas are equal to the surface of the now, perfect s cubo-octahedron { VE } sphere.
Archimedes was the first to discover this. So we see, that, a conceptual curving of a polygon, --implied dynamic of spin--- effects its overall area relationships vs the straight line considerations. So does this mean geodesic curvature is less effective than straight line Euclidean? More effective?
Recall also, that what ever exists in a static/stationary 3D black hole, is said to be represented holographically on its 2D surface area.
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@zedvictor4
Zed, vibrating air molecules I stated at least 3 times.
You off base, out of touch, ignoring truth as presented clearly.
If you think falling trees and their impact do not create vibration air molecules, then,
you may need to return to primary schooling for a few years of science
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@zedvictor4
...Which isn't to suggest that theoretical assumptions and conclusions do not play an important role as building blocks,...
Zed, when trees fall they make noise --vibrating air molcules--- is not a theoretical assumption.
Same with vehicle accidents. None of what I stated has anything to do with your "theoretical assumptions"..
Your way off base Zed. Out of touch with what has been stated.
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@Mharman
Sorry Mharman, I was relatively new to it then, and if we share disscussions, I forget.
So much water flows under the bridge of life. Hard to keep track, yet, the great fall of original DDO is not hard to forget.
So much water flows under the bridge of life. Hard to keep track, yet, the great fall of original DDO is not hard to forget.
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@zedvictor4
If we observe something and it behaves differently to when we don't observe it, how do we know how it behaves when we don't observe it, unless we observe it?
Zed, an action/event/phenomena occurs, and we didnt observe it, then we are are like a dectective who attempts to understand as much as possible about what occurred from the evidence.
I come home and see a tree fallen in my yard, I deduce the sound of air molecules vibrating occurred because, myself and many others have made such observations, over the years, from hearing a tree fall in the woods, etc.
Same goes for two vehicles we find on road, all dented and smoking and glass broke, we deduce there was accident and a sound { air molecules { vibrating occurred }
The list of such deductions go on and on and on, because humans have observed soo many action/events over humanities existence on Earth and passed on the information of what they had observed, and that is when a tree falls, or vehicles collide, a sound { air molecules vibrating } occurs.
You just need to think about it. There is mysticism going on here. logical, common sense critical thinking has be used to deduce what has occurred here there elsewhere, before you arrived on the scene of action/event.
You just need to think about it. There is mysticism going on here. logical, common sense critical thinking has be used to deduce what has occurred here there elsewhere, before you arrived on the scene of action/event.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
...Trump Derangement Syndrome"....
Narcissistic, psychotic Trumpet deranegment cannot be cured.
The Trumpet Syndrome Derangement of of MAGA can partially be cured.
The process is not easy, yet not impossible. The more Trumpet Derangement Syndrome shoots his mouth off, hitting his toe, calf, thigh and higher, the more some of MAGA will loose their immoral MAGA spirit.
Or so humanity can only hope/faith/wish/pray.
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@Benjamin
a fetus has NO personhood.
Stil, it is a non-breathing human and organism of the pregnant woman who has personhood, that, them and all of their health care assistence workers are being attacked by religious and political nutters for some years now.
A dog has genetics intsincts that kick in when they see another dog, etc.
A dog has genetics intsincts that kick in when they see another dog, etc.
These nutter humans have human created, moral principle that kicks in and they use that as justification for their uncalled for attacks and moral disrespect of a breathing person { person hood }.
These people are sic-n-head, virtural rapist sticking their virtual noses int pregant womens bodies, without their consent.
Egg cell { life } >< Spermazoa { life }
Egg cell { life } >< Spermazoa { life }
Fetus cell { non-breathing human life } > fetus/baby { non-breathing human life }
Born out { breathing individual human } and pregnant has now transformed into mother of a child { breathing personhood }
Born out { breathing individual human } and pregnant has now transformed into mother of a child { breathing personhood }
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@ADreamOfLiberty
What experiment could prove what you just claimed?
I rarely, if ever, claim a proof of anything. Only recalling --many times-- what others smarter than me appear to be saying.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The answer is: The cat is either dead or alive. There was a 50/50 chance the photon would manifest in a way that would cause the cat to die and that dice was rolled the instant the quantum wave hit the detector, not when you opened the box.
Not so with quantum entanglement i.e the cat is both alive { 1 } and dead { 0 }.
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@Sidewalker
SideW....some sort of consciousness was necessary to make the universe actual in the first place,...
And since finite, occupied space Universe eternally exists, in various states/phases of existence, an origin/source etc type thinking about Universe is moot.
A more religious cosmic question might be the two primary conjectures regarding prime numbers as follows.
There exist two primary conjectures based on two differrent set of geometrical patterns one of which { #2 } transposes to algebra equation all primes are of n*6 plus or minus 1.
1} all primes fall on same line/level ---Euclidean sine-wave pattern shown here just below--- except for 2p and 3p, as well as other non-primes, in
2} all prime numbers { except 2p and3p }, as well as other non-prime numbers, fall on these two radii, are always on each side of a single radii with no prime numbers on it. Also hexagonal graphic with radii not shown here.
0...................................6...............................12...................................18..etc
......1........................5p......7p..................11p........13p....................17p........etc
..........2p...........4.....................8.......10.......................14.........16...............etc
.................3p................................9...................................15.....................etc
There exist 18 quarks and 18 anti-quark combinations of Universe. This became of more significance to me, once I developed the minimal, Quantum Space-time Torus composed of 18 nodal events
To be clear, we can just have one line/level and all prime numbers, including 2p and 3p, will fall on that one line/level. So what, if any significance of using the symmetrical, 4 line/level pattering?
1} it makes a distinction between 2p and 3p and that becomes more significant once I inside-outed the above symmetrical pattern, to become an asymmetrical pattern,
2} it makes distinction between 3p { triangulated structural integrity } and 2p { the only even prime number } in regards to all other prime numbers, none of which are rationally triangulated and none are even.
Hope that helps. I'm always open to logical, common sense critical thinking responses and questions.
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..." The minimal field of Universe is no less than one, dual invaginated Quantum Space-time Torus having 6 invaginations { 0/18....3...6...9...12...15.. } that, create our sine-wave physical reality { observed time }. "...
It may be more correct to say, that, the minimal field is the 13 nodal event quantum pulse [ graviton-darkEon ] with its 78 lines-of-relationship.
It may be more correct to say, that, the minimal field is the 13 nodal event quantum pulse [ graviton-darkEon ] with its 78 lines-of-relationship.
13^2 = 169
169 minus 13 = 156
156 / 2 = 79 lines-of-relationships { trajectories/vectors }
Universe { non-creator God } > minimal set of overlapping and interfering Quantum space-time Tori > the non-quantize-able graviton-darkEon pulse { 78 vectors, and 13 nodal events }
1...........5p....7p.....11p......13p..outer Gravity Field ( )
Universe { non-creator God } > minimal set of overlapping and interfering Quantum space-time Tori > the non-quantize-able graviton-darkEon pulse { 78 vectors, and 13 nodal events }
1...........5p....7p.....11p......13p..outer Gravity Field ( )
........3p.....6.......9.........12........inside-the-tube physical Reality Field sine-wave /\/\/\/\/
...2p......4......8........10............ inner Dark Energy Field )(
This above minimal field integral pulse, is an octahedron --if viewed in Euclidean format--- aka truncated, triangular based di-pyramid composed of three subdivided triangles, and one free agent nodal event inside the-tube [ polyhedron } identified as number < 9 >.
Here below Ive tried to make it more clear those three subdivided triangles i.e. each subdivided triangle is defined by its 4 nodal events ---vertexes when all 78 lines-of-relationship are included in the graphic. The numbers in bold are the central/nuclear event of the outer triangular set.
Here below Ive tried to make it more clear those three subdivided triangles i.e. each subdivided triangle is defined by its 4 nodal events ---vertexes when all 78 lines-of-relationship are included in the graphic. The numbers in bold are the central/nuclear event of the outer triangular set.
-------1------------------------5p.......7p..............................11p................13p----
------3p----------------------------6---------------< 9 >-------------------12-------------
2p.............4-----------------------8----------------------------------------10-------------
Here below is linear set of the subdivided triangles, and the free agent number < 9 >, and again the minimal field of Universe, as quantum pulse
composed of non-quantized Gravity ( ), Quantized Physical Reality /\/\/\/ and non-quantized Dark Energy )(.1....2p....3p......4
5p....6...7p.....8
< 9 >
10....11p....12.....13p
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Big bang caused by fluctuation in quantum wave { sine-wave } and my free agent nodal event identified as number 9, may be the ' monkey wrench ' in the sine-wave because is not have a specific nucleated position to the three triangles, that, already nucleated by 3p, 6 and 12.
/\/\/3p>\/\/\/\/<6>\/\/\/\/<9>\/\/\/\/<12\/\/\/\/\/ and fluctuations occur because there is free agent 9 that sits off set to one side of the mid-girth triangle already nucleated by number 6.
/\/\/\/\/\/3p/\/\/\/ < 6 > < 9 > /\/\\/\/\12/\/\/\/\/\/
This is an old belief that ive heard most of my life, and my quantum pulse free agent nodal event appears to fill the causal niche perfectly.
..." Could quantum fluctuations create the universe?...Tryon extrapolated the idea of quantum fluctuations to the Universe as a whole. He reasoned that if all that existed was a quantum vacuum, a bubble-like energy fluctuation out of this vacuum could have given rise to the Universe. "...
https://bigthink.com/13-8/universe-quantum-fluctuation/
https://bigthink.com/13-8/universe-quantum-fluctuation/
.Here is the greater, Quantum Space-time Torus, that embeddes the 13 nodal event, quantum pulse { graviton-darkEon }
.........1..................5p.....7p..............11p.......13p................17p.......outer Gravity
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0/18............................6...........................12..............................18/0...PRreality inside-the-tube
...................3p......................< 9 >...............................15...................PRreality inside-the-tube
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.............2p.........4................8.......10...................14..........16.............inner Dark Energy
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@ADreamOfLiberty
The feeling is so mutual, scratch that; you can't fathom how quickly you lost me.
EB... ' I agree with Dreamofliberty. ' is to difficult for you to grasp. H,mm thats weird
EB..' A wave --sine-wave--- is Meta { beyond }-space pattern { geometry } an can be expressed as follows /\/\/\/\/\/\/ '. That also to difficult for you to grasp. H,mm thats weird.
EB...' The collapse of sine-wave is also a collapse of ' uncertainty ' and probability. '. Again these words also to difficult for you to grasp.
Weird issues you seem to have with rather simple concepts.
Weird issues you seem to have with rather simple concepts.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Huh? You lost me there
I'm correcting a possible three errors of consideration in my prior expressions of the quantum pulse, graviton-darkEon, from 14 nodal events the 91 lines-of-relationship, to 13 nodal events, with 78 lines-of-relationship, as the quantum pulse of Universe. See pattern at bottom of page
Correction 1} I may have sometimes included numerical 0 into my count, that is indeed part of the greater Quantum Space-time Torus { 0 - 18 } into that total, however, it is outside of the truncated, triangular based, di-pyramid set of 13 nodal event pulse. See pattern at bottom of page.
Correction 2 } numerical 9, appears to be logical conclusion as the free agent reality node, --inside the quantum pulse-- as it is not a nucleation in any of the three triangular sets.
Correction? 3 } numerical 10 { DE } also appears as a free agent of Dark Energy, as it does not neatly fit into the pattern, unless we only have total of 13 nodal events instead of 14 nodal events { 1 - 14 }. So we revert back to 13 nodal event scenario for quantum pulse of Quantum Space-time Tori.
To do that is certainly a big change backwards in my thinking. 13 nodal events has 78 lines-of-relationship instead of 91. I seem to recall doing this before, and just forgot. Also my documents now all need to be changed. Boondoggle on my part.
However, with the 78 lines-of-relationship, we have a resultant that divides rationally by the 6 lines-of-relationship of the tetrahedrons 4 vertexes. 78 / 6 = 13 So that is a very nice thought, that is more in alignment with Synergetics and Fullers focus on rational numbers.
And it does still leave nucleated { inside-the-tube } number 9 nodal event as as realities free agent to oscillate back-n-forth with/between 6 and 12 and 6 in-turn bounces off 3p.
3p > bing < 6 > bing < 9 > bing < 12 set of nucleated reality See pattern further below
Gravity, Dark Energy and inside-the-tube physiccal Reality
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End > 1 { G }....2p{ DE }...4 { DE } triangular set with nuclear structural reality 3P { R }
Mid-girth > 5p { G }....7p { G }.....8 { DE } triangular set with nuclear structural reality 6 { R }
End > 10 { DE }........11p { G }....13p { G } triangular set with a nuclear structural reality 12 { R }
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..1...........5p...7p.........11p....13p.............17p.......G
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0..................6....................12.........................18...PR
..........3p................9.........................15.................PR
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......2p....4............8..10.................14....16.............DE.
Now with this scenario we see free agent number 9 --of four nodal events in sine-wave of reality, as the ' monkey wrench ' called ' fluctuation ' of the quantum wave { sine-wave }, binging, banging, oscillating of the other nodal events inside-the-tube of quantum pulse.
/\/\/3p>\/\/\/\/<6>\/\/\/\/<9>\/\/\/\/<12\/\/\/\/\/ and fluctuations occur because there is free agent 9 and or 6 that can exist bilaterally on each side of the mid-girth triangular set portal.
So the 6 and 9 may come to a slow amount of fluctuation, but never ever a complete lack of oscillation.
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@n8nrgim
@ADreamOfLiberty
Wave collapse is best.
I agree with Dreamofliberty. A wave --sine-wave--- is Meta { beyond }-space pattern { geometry } an can be expressed as follows /\/\/\/\/\/\/
The collapse of sine-wave is also a collapse of ' uncertainty ' and probability.
From a friend years ago, when I first heard the phrase, Big Bang occurred from fluctuation in the quantum wave, I thought about it and created a simple drawing for him of what caused this fluctuation in the quantum wave.
/\/\/\/\/**\/\/\/\/\**/\/\/\/\/\/ i.e. there was some kind of bi-lateral-like consciousness that was operative as a ' monkey wrench ' in the systemic wave pattern.
Whatever that ' monkey wrench ' could be, eternally exists. Some may argue that, it ultra-briefly goes out of existence. I cant say that doesn't occur. I dunno
Some believe that entropy will lead to ' heat death ' ---very cold-- of our finite, occupied space Universe. Ive come to believe that cold heat death is a single, ultra-long wave { frequency } --ergo very flat--- photon.
And that photon has volume, and at minimum, that volumetric, single photon can never be less than, the 6 lines-of-relationship of a tetrahedron.
I have various scenarios Ive developed over the years, and posted them many times around here
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Angular momentum
Motion....movement....mojo.....momentum.....mom.....Ma
Pa and Ma emote as one motion and I came into existence via mojo { .." a magic charm, talisman, or spell. "... }
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@Intelligence_06
New DArt turning into old dart gradually.
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@zedvictor4
My primary comment concerning no space surrounded by space, was more about human perception than about theoretical physics.
I made no such comment Zed. Please address what I presented to you. You tend to want to leave out my actual words and above is perfect example. You leave out the word occupied.
2} Eternally existent, macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space, that, surrounds/embraces/enclcoses the following set,
3} Eternally existent, Spirit-2,3 and 4 { trinary set } finite, occupied space Universe { @ non-creator God },
After all, we are both limited and unlimited by imagination.
Yes, humans limited in size weight. Zed, please imagine for us a regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedron that is not one of the only five that are possible of Universe. You cant nor can anyone else.
You say such exists, and saying something does not make such speculation truly existent, truly possible etc. It just means a person can make a false statement about what is possible.
If you want to call that imagination, I think it is in error for any to make that statement also. When you or any can truly imagine a 6th regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedroon please share. It is eternally impossible.
You say such exists, and saying something does not make such speculation truly existent, truly possible etc. It just means a person can make a false statement about what is possible.
If you want to call that imagination, I think it is in error for any to make that statement also. When you or any can truly imagine a 6th regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedroon please share. It is eternally impossible.
Though, theoretical physics is also imagination.
Theoretical physics can do math do not correlate to occupied space Universe. Ex there is no evidence of any string particles of Universe.
Quantum leap, imagine that.
Quantum tunneling is electron or some particle that is one side of a barrier and some goes through and appears on the other side
..." What is Quantum Tunnelling? Quantum tunnelling is defined as a quantum mechanical process where wavefunctions can penetrate through a potential barrier. The transmission through the potential barrier can be finite and relies exponentially on the barrier width and barrier height. "
https://byjus.com/physics/quantum-tunnelling/
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@zedvictor4
So what is no space?
Zed, Ive been very clear for a few years now regarding my Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline: Table of Contents
1} Eternally existent, Spirit-1, Meta { beyond }-space, mind/intellect/concepts and ego, i.e. not space, rather concepts of Space, Universe { non-creator God }, Time, Toyotas, Baseballs etc, and to be specific "no space" exists as a concept only because of all of the following, that are confirmed by the 1st law of thermodynamics and I parraphrase......naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed eternally '.....
------------abstract/conceptual line of demarcation--------------
2} Eternally existent, macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space, that, surrounds/embraces/enclcoses the following set,
3} Eternally existent, Spirit-2,3 and 4 { trainary set } finite, occupied space Universe { @ non-creator God },
.....3a} Spirit-2 occupied space fermionic matter and bosonic forces, that, are quantised and quantified,
.....3b} Spirit-3, occupied space, ultra-micro Gravity ( ),
......3c} Spirit-4, occupied space, ultra-micro Dark Energy )(.
...........................space...................@..................space........
.................space.....................(> * <) i (> * <).................space...... conscious bilateral humans and other animals 31 bilateral spinal nerves total 62
........space..................................( )( )......................................space........quantum space-time torus biscected view
..space........................................< . . . >...................................................space....Quantum Pulse { graviton-darkEon } 5 overlapping hexagons { three nucleated 3p. 6. .9 } as complicated truncated, di-pyramid i.e. minimal set for a tube with two triangular end portals and central triangular girth ergo a tube { | | | }. Ex liken to a toliet paper tube that has two end portal/openings and mid-girth body opening.
Hope that address your question Zed.
The minimal field of Universe is no less than one, dual invaginated Quantum Space-time Torus having 6 invaginations { 0/18....3...6...9...12...15.. } that, create our sine-wave physical reality { observed time }.
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@zedvictor4
If there was no space, it would be surrounded by space.
Zed, this is inconsistent, contradictory statement. Understand why?
if "no space" then it is constradictory to say "surround by space" i.e. first you invoke no space, then you invoke space.
I think you intentions were more along these lines of thought......' if no occupied space Universe existsed, macro-micro-inifnite truly non-occupied space would sill exists.
1} occupied space Universe { @ } exists eternally and for the most part,--not totally insignifcant-- the macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space is moot { insignificant/irrelevant }, ....space......@.......space... and in this case the truly non-occupied space is shaped by the occupied space Universe, where the two meet.
2} if only the truly macro-micro-infinit non-occupied space would be more moot, and insignificant, in so far,
...2a} as there is no binary two-ness { 0 - 1 } involved there is only one-ness ............space........., and again, this goes back too those who like the;
..." Anthropocentrism regards humans as separate from and superior to nature and holds that human life has intrinsic value while other entities (including animals, plants, mineral resources, and so on) are resources that may justifiably be exploited for the benefit of humankind. "... without human access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts, then what is the purpose of Universe, and more so since there is no creatures to ponder and assign a purpose to occupied space Universe, and its complementary truly non-occupied space, and Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.
Infinite truly non-occupied space lacks structural and systemic integrity
Finite, occupied space has structural and systemic integrity.
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@n8nrgim
They may have nuked themselves early on and if they sent out radio signals, then too few and far between for us to capture them, at least to date.
.."
Jill Tarter, co-founder of the SETI Institute in California, says we haven’t listened for long enough or looked hard enough to make any such sweeping statements yet. Astronomers have studied all kinds of electromagnetic radiation – light, radio waves, gamma rays – looking for signals. Such a search has to cover all directions and distances in space, plus the different ways a signal might manifest itself, such as shifts in polarisation, frequency, modulation and intensity. Tarter sees these parameters as a multi-dimensional ocean. “When SETI turned 50, we had explored one glass of water from that ocean."...
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@FLRW
How do you create 3D space from nothing?
XYZ aka 3D i,e, cartesian math of three lines at 90 degrees to each other, and sharing a common vertex. See one corner/vertex of a cube.
Occupied space is not created from truly non-occupied space aka true nothing-ness space or true void of nothing, that, exists outside of our finite, occupied space Universe.
If some one told you other wise, they lack logical, common sense critical thinking on that topic.
1st law of thermodynamics...and I paraphrase here...' naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed eternally '..... Simple concept.
If some one told you other wise, they lack logical, common sense critical thinking on that topic.
1st law of thermodynamics...and I paraphrase here...' naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed eternally '..... Simple concept.
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@zedvictor4
So empty is not the best descriptive. Electrically charged space is more appropriate.
More accurate assessment of what exists between core{?} fuzzy cloud of the electron, and the core 3-quark proton --with its bosonic strong sub-nuclear force gluons exchange between those 3.
Less dense may be a better descriptive narrative.
Fermionic matter { quarks, electrons neutrinos } for the most part, may be considered more dense space,
than the bosonic exchange particles ex photon, weak forces { W-, W+, Zo }, mesons { nuclear force between protons, neutrons etc }, gluons { strong sub nuclear } and ultra-micro, ultra-weak, non-quantised and non-quantified Gravity, if not also its diametric opposite --if not also other side of the same coin/ quantum pulse and quantum torus--- Dark Energy
The the logical, common sense critical thinking conclusion, is that, the only truly non-occupied space, exists outside of our finite, occupied space Universe { non-creator God }
......space......@......space..... wherein @ = Universe
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@zedvictor4
@Mall
What is the common denominator? No evidence. It's all belief.
Use hammer colliding with your finger, toe, knee, head or other.
Was there an associated pain? Do you believe that is evidence of your occupied space --2D and/or 3D-- existence over a period of time?
Was there an associated sound expelled from you vocal chords? Do you believe that is evidence of occupied space --2D and/or 3D-- existence over a period of time?
Was there resultant red liquid oozing from impact site? Do you believe that is evidence of occupied space --2D and/or 3D-- existence over a period of time?
Logical, common sense critical thinking is becoming less and less popular with some humans. Why is that?
Is fear of truth? ---ergo create a false narrative to soothe the occupied space nerves or Meta { beyond }-space ego--
Is fear of truth? ---ergo create a false narrative to soothe the occupied space nerves or Meta { beyond }-space ego--
Fear of end date of our mortal existence?
Fear of loss of Meta { beyond }-space ego?
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@zedvictor4
I read somewhere that an atom is mostly empty space.
False --even tho that is common saying-- there exist an electric field around proton and electron in the hydrogen atom.
..." Both protons and electrons have a basic property called charge. This property is not like other physical properties of matter. Charge however can be measured and it affects the behavior of particles.
The amount or magnitude of charge on protons is the same as electrons. The protons are positively charged, the electrons are negatively charged, and the neutrons are neutral.The terms positive charge and negative charge were originally described by Benjamin Franklin.
Charges exert Force
A force is defined as a push or pull. Charged particles exhibit similar behaviors of push and full. A force that pulls particles together is called an attractive force. So electrons are attracted to protons and this is what holds atoms together. A force that pushes apart particles is a repulsive force. Force of attraction exists between oppositely charged particles - electrons and protons are therefore attracted to each other. Similar charges will repel so negative electrons repel each other. The simple rule for electric charges is: Like chages repel each other and unlike charges attract each other.
What is an Electric Field?
The concept of an electric field is used to explain why charged particles exert forces on each other. When an electron moves into the electric field of a proton it is pulled to the proton. The electric field gets stronger as we approach the particle.
Electric fields are visualized by drawing extended lines as show in the image below. Note that for positive charge the field lines point outward and for negative field they point inward. "...
https://www.edinformatics.com/math_science/electric-charge-electric-field.html
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@zedvictor4
What actually are we?
75% water
Bucky Fuller has said ....pattern integrities (* *)
Genetrically, we closer to fungus than plants
Carbon, nitrogen, etc
I suppose that we are a mass that is 90% bacterial and 10% other.
Yes
Though given the theory, perhaps we we are actually 100% something infinitely/finitely smaller than human or bacterial cells.
Atoms are finite...chemistry of sex, life etc is play between atoms, molecules, electrons
Which is sort of what I have thought for a long time.
Viruses are the twilight organsims between biologic cell and mineral
..what we have is,interfering and non-interfering patterns,operating in pure principle...B Fuller
..all that exists is modulation/moderation of angle and frequency.....
Zen saying......IS.....
Is what? Posted that else where just the other day
..all that exists is modulation/moderation of angle and frequency.....
Zen saying......IS.....
Is what? Posted that else where just the other day
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@zedvictor4
Oh good, so glad you found time to watch it. YAY!
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@zedvictor4
Quantum foam, quantum jus, quantum mousse.
Hi Zed, did find time to watch the vid? Foam is just a tern/phrase/word to label some fundmental ultra-micro this or that. Moose, mouse, mud-puddle etc.
Again, this professional molecular biologist is very intelligent person, who explains in clear way with nice background visuals to understand his comprehensive knowledge base.
Synergy > complexity > emergent > sentience > consciousness > pan-psychist creature > that seeks to find the order in a seemingly { illusion } random-ness of Universe. This vid I would put in my top ten, even tho he does offer the fundamentals of existence, as I think I do. Anyway here is that vid. It is well worth any ones time to do so.
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