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The Big Bang Didn't Need God to Start Universe
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@zedvictor4
I was simply suggesting that in the absence of an auditory device there wouldn't have been a bang
Sorry Zed if I misinterpreted your comments. All occupied space is vibration ergo a complementary Meta-space, mathematical frequency.

Auditory relates to those biologic's that can hear specific frequency of occupied space vibrations / frequencies

Here I paraphrase Bucky Fuller, whom met Einstein in late 20's or so to get permission to publish his first book --4D timelock--  Fuller recounts that meeting in Fullers last book Cosmography

..' all that exists is moderation/modification of frequency '....

.. ' all that exists is interfering and non-interfering patterns operating in pure principle '......

Fuller leaves us with the idea that finite occupied space Universe is what he and others called  ' meta-physical ', and ive refined that definitions to be specific to another primary occupied space that humans have not ---and probably never will---  quantization of Gravity  geodesically inward contraction (  )  and Dark Energy geodesic outward expansion )(.

Mathematical quantification is a seperate from quantization.  Lee Smolin of Loop Quantum Gravity fame, predicted back in 90's { ? }, that humans would mathematically quantify Gravity within 15 years.  That has not happened. 

I believe I have quantified Gravity and Dark Energy ---two sides of the same coin/torus --   via numerical and  2D geometrical patterning, that is defined by 14 nodal events and should be considered as quantum pulsation, not a Quantum Space-time Torus.

These 14 nodal events exist within a minimal, 3D, Quantum Space-time Torus composed of 18 nodal events and I can show this in 2D patterning, but dong have graphic ability to present in 3D. My bad.
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Once Again, Fighting Abortion
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@YouFound_Lxam
See my post 94 to sam, and leave your "murder" rehtoric out of the conversation please.

Abortion of pregnant woman's fertilized egg > fetus/baby is has two primary ways of occurring:

1} non-intentional and is also labeled as natural abortion, tho humans are natural and it is natural for humans to make choices.

2} intentional abortion by pregnant woman is not murder of a less dependent, born out, air/oxygen breathing individual human, and for those like you who want to conflate those two scenarios, I repeat, please keep your nose { virtual rape } out of a pregnant woman's bodily business unless she asks for your assistance, otherwise, your committing virtual rape with your nose.

Do you understand the words coming off my fingertips?
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@Sam_Flynn
Each stage of a pregnancy is ascribed scientific labels for a reason. They define the stage of development along the 9-month process of said pregnancy. 
Logical common sense critical thinking is involved in any scientific methodology. The words used may have varied by scientists in biologic field over the years.

Please share when you can be specific in point to the words/phrases etc that  invalidate my logical common sense critical thinking as presented. 

The only reality/issue of a pregnancy is fetal viability.
False. You totally ignore the most important issue and that is the pregnant woman. This is you first lack of logical common sense critical thinking and resultant of some dogma that most likely has some religious origins. Ex Biblical

Anything prior to it is immaterial, and it is precisely why over 89-95% of ALL abortions have been historically before 14 weeks gestation, with the majority of those being before 6 weeks. Less tha1.2% are after fetal viability and they're for dire situations.
Anything before, or after fetal viability, does not trump/override  the most important consideration, and once again, is the pregnant woman. 

..." The six biological karyotype sexes that do not result in death to the fetus are:
X – Roughly 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 5,000 people (Turner’s )
XX – Most common form of female
XXY – Roughly 1 in 500 to 1 in 1,000 people (Klinefelter)
XY – Most common form of male
XYY – Roughly 1 out of 1,000 people
XXXY – Roughly 1 in 18,000 to 1 in 50,000 births

When you consider that there are 7,000,000,000 alive on the planet, there are almost assuredly tens of millions of people who are not male or female. ".....

This is logical common sense critical thinking. Biological diversity = sex and Fungi have thousands { 36.000 } of sexes.

In order of priority:

1} Woman egg X x > * * < X or y spermazoa Man

2] Pregnant woman and man only has say if woman and man have prior contract to his gifting the woman his spermaoa,

3} fertilized egg,

4} fertilized egg viabily,

5} born out fetus/baby that has taken its first inspiration { inspirited } of air/oxygen, ergo,

6} first step to being and  less dependent, human individual, and,

7} the chord is severed from the pregnant woman who is now a mother to a child { less dependent individual }.

Follow the above bouncing ball ---on tv screen--  to teach children how to read is something many people have no knowledge of and I think we need an adult version to educate those humans that actually want to learn logical common sense critical thinking truths  based on science facts we know.

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Once Again, Fighting Abortion
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@YouFound_Lxam
Well conception is the starting point of life:
The egg and spermazoa are already alive. Old news

To call a fetus a child seconds after fertilization is a exaggeration.

So, conception is where life begins, but what type of life is it?
Human begets human. Old news

To call a fetus a baby seconds of fertilization is an exaggeration. To call fetus/baby a child ---much less a being born out-- and has taken its first inspiration of air/oxygen and not had chord severed is another exaggeration on your part.

So, by definition, abortion in humans is literally defined as the induced expulsion of a human life, if abortion is done from conception or further. 
Abortion is old news ----since dawn of humankind---   irrespective if induced by nature other than pregnant woman or choice to have others induce the abortion.

If you define life as being able to breath oxygen, then what about humans who are either A. allergic to oxygen, or B. hooked up to machines to survive because they can't breathe properly?
Egg cell and spermazoa are alive. Old news.  A new human life begins a conception. Old news.

There is no known origin of life of Earth or elsewhere. Old news

Not necessarily.
Yes, egg and fertilised egg is orgnaism of woman who becomes pregnant woman. Old news

The origin of the organism is actually of both the woman and the man.
The spermazoa is a gift to the woman to do with as she so chooses with her bodily organisms. Old news.

Unless they have a prearranged contract otherwise the above is truth and fact of the mater. All is an false narrative.

For others to stick their nose into a pregnants womans bodily business without her consent is virtual rape. Please keep your nose out unless pregnant woman asks you for assistance.

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The Big Bang Didn't Need God to Start Universe
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@zedvictor4
Who or what converted the waves into noise.
Your misinterpreting existence Zed. I will explain it to you and others again.

Waves are Meta-space geometrical patterns, they are not the occupied space { air water etc } existence, ergo, the waves exist in complement to the occupied space medium. Understand yet?

Methinks that it was actually the big silence.
Silence does not mean no occupied space exists, silence it only means an occupied space that you, I and others are not tuned-into. Turn off the radio etc to hear the silence, and the silence exists cause were not tuned-into the EMRadiation radio vibrations.

Unless GOD was there with a tape recorder.
The finite, occupied space Universe is the non-creator God. All else is fantasy-land of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego * i *

The Meta-space and occupied space exist in complement to each other eternally.  And there is a third space, and that is the truly non-occupied space that exists outside of the finite occupied space. If finite Universe expands, the the logical common sense critical thinking conclusion is that, it expands into truly non-occupied space or contracts from such truly non-occupied space.

These three eternally exist in complement to each other ergo my Cosmic Trinary Outline/Set. Simple. Not complex to grasp, unless there is an ego issue that blocks logical, common sense critical thinking.

Ex. raise your arm/hand out in front of you. Now move it back and forth laterally. Next make a slight rising and falling of arm/hand as you move it back and forth laterally. This creates a Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual wave pattern. Now stop moving the arm/hand. Ok?
So now you still see your occupied space arm/hand and we no longer see a Meta-space wave pattern except in our Meta-space mind and that is where the Meta-space pattern was all along before, during and after the arm/hand moved in front of our eyes.

Water is the occupied space medium, like the arm/hand. Water and air etc is not the Meta-space wave pattern.
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Good poems/rap verses/book excerpts (do not troll)
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@zedvictor4
Needs work.
Agreed. Not my typical poem. Off the cuff and i dont mean my new rotor metal rotor cuff.

Total reverse, of a worn out cuff,
Ball is now metal, with a PVC between.

Now less pain, in most positions,
Yet arm above head, causes intense situation.

6 weeks out, therapy helps,
6 weeks more, back to work I may go.

Sciatic bundle,  may be next,
Foot likes to tremble, calf likes to cramp.

Back surgery perhaps, some day in the future,
For now the some pills, to keep me smitten.

Roses are red, I have some blues,
To this life Ive lived, with parts that are new.



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Good poems/rap verses/book excerpts (do not troll)
Suckle-me-dee, suckle-me-dumb,

Suckle the teat, then suckle my thumb,

Suckle the experience, suckle the intellect,

Suckle the ripe, then suckle me gone { not singularity },

Suckle the outer, then suckle the inner,

Suckle geodesics, then suckle re-invagination,

Suckle the finite, and suckle eternity, again and again, and again...........
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Can Math Prove God?
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@FLRW
Nope, I m too hairy :--)) and my relationship women has been so-so overall.  Maybe cause I lack enough empathy/compassion and resort to practical logic, common sense critical thinking so often.  I dunno.

Men have reputation for being having less access to empathy centers in their brain. I dunno.

More men explode with violence than women is historically correct I believe and most often that is not logical, common sense critical thinking way to behave.

Here is snap shot from just 2023 of such illogical behaviour. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476445/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-shooter-s-gender/
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Is Israel Justified?
Its labeled a War.  If it is War, then historically innocent people die in war.

I stated before that I think Israel has gone a little bit overboard in consideration of old ways of middle eastern { Biblical via former  Babylonians } ideas of eye for and eye and tooth for a tooth etc.

War is hell and Hamas released violent hell on Israel.  So hell has reaped more hell, tho to a greater degree  of people receiving violence.

Yes, this onboard tactic has gotten back some of the hostages and lessened Hamas network  --too whatever degree----, and USA Blinkin in Tel Aviv today asking for more restraint { less hell on Palistenians }  --innocent to whatever degree---   from Israel.

 I supported sending USA fighter jets and tanks too Ukraine.  I'm for more humanitarian restraint by Israel in rooting out and destroying Hamas. 

 Today Israel claims more rockets coming from Gaza. I have no reason to doubt this is true.  So how does a nation react to this?  With Iron Missile defense system is one way that works --as it does to some degree in Ukraine--    and currently that is enough to of response to  Hezbollah in north, since they have not entered and killed thousand or so and taken 250 hostages.

  USA attempts to keep this hell on Earth from spreading outside of Gaza appears to be working for the most part.

I have friends in Israel and I told them years ago, I would never choose to live their because of the incoming rockets. 

I recall my science teacher from 7th grade ---many years ago--- saying WW 3 will begin middle east. 






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@YouFound_Lxam
Whats your point. Children are self aware in the womb.

To call a fetus a child 2nds after fertilization is a exaggeration in my book.

A fetus/baby is not child til it has taken its first inspiration of oxygenated air and the umbilical cord is severed, is how I judge a viable independent individual human.

Prior to that, it is organsim of pregnant woman, and that is nourished and fed oxgen by the woman.  Pregnant woman becomes mother when the above conditions are met, and the child is given the option to suckle teat.  

All else is based historically patriarchal  relgions that have a history of fanaticism in various regards, without due consideration of women in so many ways. A woman could not vote and should remain silent on so many issues, for how many thousands of years.  At least in patriarchal Biblical times of three primary biblical religions.

Republican conservatives have too many of these nutter types amongest them to this day.. Sad :--( sic-n-head )--:
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@FLRW
That's how we are getting them to return. Hi Melania.
Mostly I dont think apollo-shaped-men icons/statuettes would be enough  most women, but maybe others.

Typically I think it is men who are more enticed by visual flesh of women rather than a woman visual of flesh of men.

Symmetry of body shape --ergo geometry { ergo math }--- is significant.  I recall that in Roman time period more some what more plump women were all the rage, then in USA 60s the model skinny  model Twiggy was the new rage { in vogue ).

I also read once that Icelandic women were most beautiful over all.  And even tho Sean Connery with his hariy chest was popular, most people prefer less hair and more skin visible as attractive.  I remmember visiting my aunt with her new husband    --or just before the wedding--when I was maybe 12 or 13, and for whatever reason, I had to share the bed with him and he was hairy on back shoulders and I'm like wow, I never seen anybody with so much hair on their bodies and I didnt like it.

Does math of geometry prove God?  No, but geometry makes obvious that we see finite objects ---static and dynamic---  and based on  associated logic, common sense critical thinking, Universe { non-creator God } has a shape, and  of course it is dynamic, however, if it were possible to be outside Universe looking at Universe, we might not be able to discern any dynamic ativity or we might. I dunno.

I think Universe is lumpy to whatever degree. I think humans find proper balance of curves on human pleasant.  Call that asymmetrical balance  i.e. not straight as a 2 x 6 planck and not as round as  beach ball. 

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@FLRW
Hey Ernest Borg, put your clothes back on before the women start returning to DArt :--))
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@YouFound_Lxam
I saw you didn't answer my question/example in the previous response.
The difference between every planet, and ours is that ours is one of a kind. 
Yes indeed, there is reason it is called ' Rare Earth '.  However, that in no way is evidence there is not bacterial life --or even viruses--  on other planets in our solar system and every solar system in Universe. We just dont have the tools to do indepth search for biologic life on any other planets and some moons, as of yet.

So far, we have found no habitable planets with the exact same qualities for life except for ours. 

Agreed, however, I knowledge of Universe --and how large is---  is increasing, tho more slowly with finding other biological life and more specifically planets similar to Earths. Weve barely touched the unknowns in our own solar system much less the known Universe, fro biologic life.

A system cannot exist without a system designer. 

False. And I have no idea where you get that illogical pathways of thought from and more so with and eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe { non-creator God }.

Like God.

There exists no creator God.  Weve been over that. Universe = non-creator God. Understand Lam?

But like I said before, using logic we can assume the universe is finite. 
Ive never ever suggessted other wise. Why you infer that I do with your comments is illogical or misunderstand confusion on your part.

You obvious not paid attention to anything in these regards what been Ive stating for years in DArt, former DART and any where Ive ever communicated on Earth for past 35 years or more. I have countless clear comments that in no way state anything about and infinite occupied space Universe. Please share the location if you think they exist here at DArt or elsewhere.
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Can Math Prove God?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Also living beings. 

* i * bilateral humans with ego is most complex living { biologic/soul } being

God is a living being, no?
There exists no creater God and no logical common sense critical thinking will ever validate such speculations.

Non-creator God, is our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe and not a biologic/soul. And no evidence of being bilateral, at in its whole, altho, I do have some earlier scenarios expressing Universe at its entropic ending being bilateral set of two ultra complex spherical ----now composed of 3D Quantum Space-time Tori---   with a flattened Vector Equililbrium existent between these two, sharing a common triangle surface.

No, our universe is definitely finite, from our observations so far.
Huh? I never ever in my life said Universe is not finite. Not sure why you went off this comment above. You misunderstand.

If the universe was infinite, then that would be logically impossible, since the universe is expanding and to say it is infinite, would mean you would have to say it has always existed, and like I explained earlier, you can't have a world with an infinite past, only an infinite future. In other words, you have to have a beginning, and if you have a beginning, then you are finite. 

Again, why your addressing me with this comment above makes no sense to me, as Ive always been a proponent of an eternally existent, finite, occupied space Unvierse. Why youve gone off thinking Ive suggested anything else makes no sense to me. 

Yes! It proves the existence of an intelligent mind. 

We know humans have access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego i is old news and has nothing to do with a creator God.

And this mind would have to be infinitely intelligent to make math.

False. Math has finite limits and finite limit of absolute matematical truths.

Time for me to time out. Sorry.
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Duhh, we see light bulb design by humans. We dont see planatary design by another.   Ex pregnant woman has child. A pregnant woman of any age does not design the child?  Planets come into existence via Gravity contraction { --->INward<--} as does the sun etc.
I saw you didn't answer my question/example in the previous response.
The difference between every planet, and ours is that ours is one of a kind. 
So far, we have found no habitable planets with the exact same qualities for life except for ours. 

The math eternally exists and is not designed.
A system cannot exist without a system designer. 

Math proves intelligent creatures
Like God.

We have mathematical, ergo Meta-space,  concepts of infinite this or that. We do not have any evidence for any infinite occupied space. Humans visually --and via instruments---   only see finite's.
But like I said before, using logic we can assume the universe is finite. 




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The Big Bang Didn't Need God to Start Universe
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@FLRW
Well Ernest, it is just another scenario  ---amognest a few out there---   that is resultant o logical common sense critical thinking pathways of thought.

What I did not add in, was a rough draft of inaccurrate time line for initial Big Bang from Dark Energy over billions of years before our sine-wave associated reality totally eachings entropic ending and distingrateds into outer Gravitataional field, only to follow a spiral geodesic , through the flat neutral equator of torus on its way to the inner Dark Energy Field.

*...........................................Outer Gravity Surface Field.............................................................loops back to self  on surface of torus
-.........OB............80o Bl. Yr. etc...............................................................................................^v^v ...loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB...........200...Bl. Yr...........................................................................................^v^v ...........loops back to self inside torus
- .........OB..........100 Bl. Yr.............................................................................^v^v............................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB...........20 Bl. Yr...........................................................^v^v................................................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB...........10 Bl. yr.........................................^v^v...................................................................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB............5 Ml. yr.........................^v^.....................................................................................loops back to self inside torus
-..Observed Reality........^v........Dark Inflation period.....................................................................loops back to self inside torus
*.....................................................Inner Dark Energy Surface Field..................................................loops back to self on surface of torus

Here at add in speculative time line, with myself being considerate of accuraccy, or future end entropic end date for this regenerative cycling of big big >> big dissapations into positive geodesic Gravity and then around>(    )(    ) > and  back to negative geodesic )(  Dark Energy.

The other thing to remmeber, is that the myriad set of Quantum Space-time tori on the outer perimter of Universe, always have outer positive geodesic Gravity curvature as the outer  most perimeter of Universe, pulling-inward, back to Dark Energy Field.

IF this scenario  or any like it ---etc R penorse's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology--- is not based on my  numerically sequential  { think cause > effect } spiral, duo-invaginated { creates sine-wave reality } overlapping and interfering Quantum Space-time Tori.

And we never ever see { quantise } outer Gravity geodesic field or inner Dark Energy geodesic field }.  We see only the resultant sine-wave physical reality.

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@FLRW
Occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed ergo, the scenario of occupied space coming into existence from Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts { ergo math } is illogical, lack of common sesnse critical thinking.

Naught is created nor destroyed only transformed eteranally.

The issues how then do we explain Roger Penrose proof of Einsteins G Relativity math via Schwarzchild, that, photons come become null geodesic incompleteness aka singularity inside black holes. 

So the math says thats what happen inside black holes, yet some black holes evaporate.  What occupied space information is carried forward eternally?

All that is possible to exist is what is carried forward in transformation.   Ive clearly explained one option as to how this occurs.

Ive shown how our the big bang { Dark Bang and Dark Inflation  } occur all Quantum Space-time Tori of finite Universe, have observed { quantised }
sine-wave-associated,  physical reality, that  appears from inner, negative Dark Energy  geodesic )(, surface  field of nodal events of Quantum Space-time Tori, and then,

that sine-wave of reality, ---in each and every Quantum Space-time Torus----, move towards, the outer, positive, Gravitational geodesic (   )  surface field of nodal events, of all Quantum Space-time Tori.

Here below we see in 2D version, --- in a newer more simplified form { for understanding more eassly }--- to show the sine-wave disintegrating into outer Gravity field, only to travel the geodesic to the inner Dark Energy field.  This below leaves out some of specifics of Quantum Space-time Toroidal Gedeosics, so as to be complicated for those who could not follow my previous expressions.

*...........................................Outer Gravity Surface Field.............................................................loops back to self  on surface of torus
-.........OB.............................................................................................................................^v^v ...loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB..............................................................................................................^v^v ..................loops back to self inside torus
- .........OB.............................................................................................^v^v..................................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB...........................................................................^v^v.....................................................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB........................................................^v^v......................................................................loops back to self inside torus
-.........OB......................................^v^..........................................................................................loops back to self inside torus
-..Observed Reality........^v............................................................................................................loops back to self inside torus
*.....................................................Inner Dark Energy Surface Field...........................................loops back to self on surface of torus

This above expression does not exhibit the geodesics between Outer Gravity surface of torus and inner Dark Energy surface.

A bisection of such torus shows these geodesics, at least partially OO or as (  )(  ), as using texticonic characters is best I have to offer over the years since I first developed these scenarios.
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Forest Churches of Ethiopia
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@Lemming
@FLRW
Wife I and family watched Obama narrating Our Great National Parks LINK BELOW the other night on Netflix.  These were as fascinating  as the most recent David Attenborugh Our Planet we watched in Spring.


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Forest Churches of Ethiopia
Forest Churches of Ethiopia

Additional indepth map and info
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Can Math Prove God?
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@YouFound_Lxam
....math is a very big indicator of a God....
Math  is indicator of biologic creatures * i *   with access  Meta-space  mind/intellect/concepts and ego * i *. Nothing more and nothing less. All else is mythical fantasy beliefs. Humans have beliefs, AI does not.

Finite, occupied space Universe { non-creator God }  eternally exists ----occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed is extrapolated from first law of conservation naught is created nor destroyed.  Old news from the lat 1800's

The above alone should be enough to inform logical common sense thinking humans to find the light aka relative and absolute truths in the above regards.

Occupied space ex a chair, inherently involves geometric patterns i.e. math ---one of many types of math---. Our occupied space sun is of course much more dynamically animated than a chair, ergo it also has dynamically visible changing geometric patterns, that, also complement its occupied space aka energy.

The fact that we can do math, proves that math is an intelligent system
It proves humans have access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego * i*  , ergo  it proves the existence of such Meta-space, as mind/intellect/concepts ego
* i *.  

God doesn't have a human brain.
Well you got that part correct. Non-creator God/Universe has many animal brains on Earth.  Obviously. If not also on many other planets of Universe.

Why would you assume that a planet is not designed, but a light bulb is? 
Duhh, we see light bulb design by humans. We dont see planatary design by another.   Ex pregnant woman has child. A pregnant woman of any age does not design the child?  Planets come into existence via Gravity contraction { --->INward<--} as does the sun etc.

So, a complex system exists, and it just comes out of nowhere?
The math eternally exists and is not designed. There is no logical, common sense critical thinking by you continual return ' designed ' and  "complex systems exist and your " just comes out of nowhere" is moot via your illogical, lack of common sense and lack of critical thinking regarding a finite, occupied space Universe  { non-creator God } and its dynamically eternal existence.

Math proves intelligent creatures, that, on occasion use logical, common sense critical thinking to discover math, languages, AI etc.  Math and eternally existent,  finite set, that, complements a spatially finite, yet eternally existent occupied space Universe.

Ex of one such finite. ..there can only exist, five kinds of regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe....

Ex humans do not see and infinite set of number or languages written in the sky via telescopes or any other method.

We have mathematical, ergo Meta-space,  concepts of infinite this or that. We do not have any evidence for any infinite occupied space. Humans visually --and via instruments---   only see finite's.


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Are we getting real close to compulsory thought monitoring?
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@Sidewalker
Yes, but mostly in Florida.

ROFL thank you
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AGI { Artificial General Intelligence }
So I asked BING Chatbot LINK  alternative to ChatGPT.  Like many people over the years I converse with in cosmic stuff, BING contradicts itself below, ergo, appears illogical, lack of common sense and lack of critical thinking.

Question: Does truly non-occupied space exist? If yes, where is it located?

Bing Answer:



So here above I embolden the contradictory comments. .." empty space " apparrently exists in this context, where to statements above it does not. Also they use the word "vacuum" and obviously a true vacuum = truly non-occupied space.
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Time Is Only Dimension
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@John_C_87
Good bye by John
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Donald Trump is showing strong signs of dementia
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@Greyparrot
Biden is better at speeding up the revolution than Trumpy!

Yeah the revolution of uncalled for { unnecessary  } chaos and violence. Sick-n-head.
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Donald Trump is showing strong signs of dementia
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@sadolite
Avoiding truth is strong in you,  Luke Sadolite Skywalker
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what would you expect from a "theory of everything" if you were going to take it seriously?
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@sui_generis
A Young used four numbered lines and his 7 catagories and subcatagories based on 7

I used similar four numbered lines. My Cosmic Trinary Set/Outlineis not based on those four lines, however, 
.....   My cosmic Trinary Set begins with systemic set of four, that has two primary kinds of space { occupied and non-occupied } and trinary set and sub-sets of occupied space catagory and subcatagores......... So 4 > 2 > 3 = Omni-considerate, most wholistic cosmic set. 

Fuller used four 2D hexagonal planes in 60 degree orientation as Vector Equilibrum aka  cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron

3 = structure.....and....... 4 = systemic integrity ergo total 7 { more on that point later }

Xx - Xy is three X's within a set of four chromosome system of  bio-diversity via sex with humans being the synergetically most complex. Woman more complex than man.

In 2D we have a square [  ] and  in-of-itself is never structurally stable till it has two diagonals [X]  ---or triangles built into its corners---  that result in four triangles, 6 lines { see all tetrahedron /\/\/ } and four vertexes { * * * * }.

All of finite, occupied space Universe  is complemented by geometrical math and other maths.


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The CONTINUED BATTLE for the SOUL of the NATION
Why do you keep talking about Trump? Trump isn't a system of govt. You obviously have TDS.
... /\ ' ' ' ' '  The CONTINUED BATTLE for the SOUL of the NATION ' ' ' ' /\....

Improve your reading comprehension skills Trumpet Chaos Brain { TCB }

Republic = military rule of law King > Governor > General > Captain ergo order

Democracy = military rule of law via people who vote for presidenet > Governor > and military assigns general > Captain etc ergo order via rule of law.

Your last two posts #31 and 32 is example of where your emotional intelligence is at.  You fear truth about yourself.
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@sadolite
Fear for of truth is your blockade to truth. Sadolite.

Trumpet and MAGA have offer very little truth, and much more ignorance and violent tendencies as well as racist etc negative.
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@John_C_87
Good Bye John C.  ....Gratitude Day
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@sadolite
Republic = military rule of law King > Governor > General > Captain ergo order

Democracy = military rule of law via people who vote for presidenet > Governor > and military assigns general > Captain etc ergo order via rule of law.

Just as the poor, the nutters, the bullies etc, are always with us, so is govenance ergo order.

Trumpet and MAGA types  seen chaos and destruction of order and attempt to place themselves above the law. Sick n head ignorant and violent rebels without  a valid cause.




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@sadolite
...The US is based on the rule of law. Not any kind of democracy....
False and true mixed together i is called false narrative and more so depending on degree of persons intent within context USA's history into the future from here.

Past > ( * i * ) > Future

What is the intention of the Meta-space ego aka i, is a consideration

There are limits to how omi-considerate a human ego can consider over finite set of time.

The rule of law comes from sea-faring days is where the Captain is the supreme rule of law.

Above Captain may have been a governor back on British ( Celts, Welsh, English, Scots }  soil.

One rule of law shall rule them all to maintained structure and systemic order.

Chaos is what is outside of the rule of law.  At least known laws.  Knowing laws of weather prediction was closer to chaos. 

And not understanding/knowing the crew etc, made for testing the limits normally well accepted rule of law for Captain and crew. 
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@John_C_87
  1. X, And Y can, X, and Z can, Z and Y can.
The is old news Ive stated once or more in  thread. Still mind games on your part.

X, Y, Z, as 3 right-angles alone, are and do not  not define a circle.  By posting that which Ive already  stated repeatedly.

X, Y and Z plus time do not define a circle says nothing of significant relevance.  quantised and quantified time of occupied space dynamic bits and chains of bit pulsations, animated etc.

Put all of its potential geometries via axes of its opposing parts, into spin and frequnecy of spin motion via ultra-micro quantum pulses,   We already been over occupied space time is dynamic, animated etc. Whats new is doing it with the Quantum Space-time tori.   If your not there John, then way behind the 8 ball of blinded too old news, place in front of you.

You wasting time and space of this thread. As I think I am also. Good Bye John C.  ....Gratitude Day


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@John_C_87
I understood, the argument of debate made by you it moves the principle of talks to any and all Tensor havingTime described as an object outside of its boundary of dimension. The universal understanding known to all people said in the simplest and easiest way to understand is time must be under conditions of use be synchronized.

Sorry john, I think your offer nothing of significant relevance to this topic.

X, Y, Z and t do not define a circle. Your -playing mind games with us that to lack clear significant relevance. Good luck


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@oromagi
@FLRW
The US is based on the rule of law. Not any kind of democracy.
Typical false narrative of MAGA types like you Sad.  False narrative is mixture of lies, relative truths and/or absolute truths.

Soul = biologic integrity

Soul of a nation = governmental integrity that is constitutional and a democratic.

Trumpet ergo MAGA types = chaotic destruction the integrity rule of law, integrity of democracy and .........? ? ?...........

Nov 2, 2020......."Dependent on a minority of the population to hold national power, Republicans such as Senator Mike Lee of Utah have taken to reminding the public that “we’re not a democracy.” It is quaint that so many Republicans, embracing a president who routinely tramples constitutional norms, have suddenly found their voice in pointing out that, formally, the country is a republic. There is some truth to this insistence. But it is mostly disingenuous. The Constitution was meant to foster a complex form of majority rule, not enable minority rule."...
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@John_C_87
...Time is part of all dimensions known X, Y, and Z....
I have addressed such a comment by you above in various ways in this thread in think rour not reading or understand those comments as I posted.

I dont recall that comment above a is a  Fuller quote, as you suggest.
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....a unifying, philosophical theory of everything,....
Start Here: Less conventional approaches to Grand Unified Theory of Everything 0 - 2 and 3 most popular candidates for GUTOEverything

0} Monopole gravity --->in<--- aka always attractive vs dipole  magnistism either  attractive or repulsive charge { dispersive out <----> out disintegrative }
note 1: Fullers diagram using minimal geometry of 3D ---->in<--- vs out <----> out diintegrative forces of charge {EM Radiation/photon } Use zoom button at bottom of page in following link to better read

note 2: tensegrity was the prominent theory by Fuller regarding gravity is the high strung tension as ---> in <----- and all else as mass in coherent integrity by the tension. Fuller invevented word tensegrity however, it is was his student Kenneth Nelson who made the first tensegrity structure out of PVC pipe and rope or cable, or string.

1}  Introduction to Arthur Young { inventor of bell helicoptor } .."The Reflexive Universe".. and his theory of Everything based on purpose and process of seven and subsets of seven. His first book was .." The geometry of Meaning"...

...note: Young and have in common in that we both used the four line/level pattern approach, with some similar and some very differrent resultants.

2} my ulta-high number of Quantum Space-time Tori, with diametrcally opposing Outer (  ) Gravity set of surface nodal events, and Inner )(  Dark Energy set of surface nodal events that spirally { geodeiscally ....(  )(  )...   define any quantum pulse that includes diametrically opposite invaginations to create the inside body of tube as our sine-wave associated, observed { quantised } time, aka physical reality. ....(> * <)  i   (> * <)... i.e. occupied space of three primary kinds with the most complex physical reality resultant being bilateral humans ...woman being more complex than man---.

3}
...3a} String Theory >>> super-symmetry comes closet in my oppinnion, that is after my Quantum Space-time Tori scenarios, that also explain dark inflation expansion, entropy { dispersion of order } and cosmic cyclic regeneration of Universe
...3b} loop quantum gravity
...3c} E8 by the surfer dude






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@John_C_87
PLease return John.when when you have some significantly relevant comments regarding Fullers remarks..."time is the only dimension"....or other in similar vein. Good luck with that.
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@FLRW
Here he does Bob Dyalns phone on vibrate

.....Knock knockin on heavens door.....
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@FLRW
Well,  he was the Cigarette Smoking Man on The X-Files !

It makes sense, that OGP is off-spring from Trumpet, that Trumpet refues to lay claim too.

Stormy Daniels?  Karen McDougal? The hispanic maid, uhh, no that was A. Schwarzenegger's child.  H,mm? Could that latter be whom OGP has sprung forth from?

..." Arnold Schwarzenegger's 5 Kids: Everything to Know ".. At least two boys we know of and here they are on SNL, Are either of them OGP?



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AGI { Artificial General Intelligence }
For those who still cant figure out if Ebuc is a AI Robot or not.  Let me give you a clue.

There exist degrees of consciousness and  the synergetic complexity we address as access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i ......*  i  * .......and its resultant appearance as the diametrically opposing invaginations from outer Gravity and inner Dark  Energy surface set of nodal events.......ex  (> * <)  i  (> * <)......H,mm I think about occupied space with my occupied space brain ergo my ego {  * i *  } exists as........?........

.." Today, no AI  has managed to successfully pass the Turing test by fulfilling the specific conditions he outlined

.....In 1950, British computer scientist Alan Turing proposed an experimental method for answering the question: can machines think? He suggested if a human couldn’t tell whether they were speaking to an artificially intelligent (AI) machine or another human after five minutes of questioning, this would demonstrate AI has human-like intelligence. Image for Representation. "....

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@Greyparrot
Orange Gray Parrot speaks again without saying anything of significant relevance regarding the posted SNL skit.
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@John_C_87
Time and Pi are the same thing only Pi is less accurate than time.

3 can equal 3 seconds, 3 minutes, 3 hrs, days, weeks 3 months etc is Meta-spatial concepts as units Meta-space quanta { finite quantafied duration/period } of Meta-space time and mostly  of insignificant relevance to a Meta-space perfect circle and Meta-space numbers 60, 24, or whatever and mores so when you have some logical, common sense critical thinking explanation.  You do not.

A circle can be divided into 2 parts, 3 parts, 4 parts etc. 

Observed { quantised } time as occupied space physical reality ---ex digital clock--- is composed of fuzzy electrons  { atom cloud }. See sine-wave associated geometric patterns when you actually want to involve something of more relative significance to your lack of any cosmic explanations.

3.1....etc

3.14....etc.

3.141.....etc

3.1415....etc

3.14159265359...etc is mostly insignificantly irrelevance until you actually offer some cosmic significant relevant explantaions.  You have not and I dont see any such coming from you in the future.

Dividing a circle into 60 parts in of itself is of irrelevant insignificance.  You have not of significant cosmic explanation to offer us. Sorry that you pretend like you do.  Back to some cosmic studies for you. Start with known/observed science, as Ive done, and then read the many posts on such cosmic explanations Ive posted here in many posts over the DArts existence

I.e do your homework.


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@John_C_87
Perfect is questionable,....
Read my lips/text until you can grasp truth and facts. You have little valid argument for much if not most of what your insignificant relevance your going on about.

Once again, a perfect { pure } circle is imaginary aka Meta-space concept and is associated with XY XZ or ZY,  two dimensions only as a circular plane/area or polygon of any number of chord/edges and we find/observe in physical reality

You offer us no cosmic logical, common sense critical thinking as to why 24 is more cosmic than 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 etc  and chords/edges that can define a 2D plane as a  finite area, and reality the non-perfect circles, i.e.  just lower frequency of polygon not a perfect circle { meta-space purity of untainted concept }.


OOOO = polygons that look approximate pure concept of perfect circle

/\/\/\/\ = Euclidean expression of sine-wave

(  )(  ) = incomplete geodesics { because of being texticonic characterization } expressed as bisection of a torus

(><)(><) = invaginations from outer { positive } and inner { negative } surface of Quantum Space-time torus

(><)(><)(><)(><) ergo (/\/\/)(/\/\/) ---ergo observed/quntised-time,  invaginating, spiral surface geodesics of Quantum Space-time tori 

(>*<) i  (>*<) = bilateral consciousness * i  * is the most complex resultant of our physical --sine-wave associated--- physical reality resultant inside the tube of these myriad set of Quantum Space-time Tori. i is Meta-space ego


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Though ancient Central Europeans would share a common ancestry with every other homo-sapiens that migrated to the  four corners of the globe.
Yeah of course Celts Welsh etc came from elsewhere  { most likely is of course is European descent }. I imagine there is plenty of genetic data on that by now.

And for sure, old British pagans did ritualistic stuff that they imagined would be of some metaphysical significance.
Cremating their dead around in pits around Stonehenge,--- as I think some other cultures also have also cremated their dead--  may actually stem from intuitive concern of some contagions { bad spirits } from dead flesh,---even tho they of course had no way of knowing of bacteria contagions viruses and flys carry etc--- yet by burning they may have felt was least chance of being affected in anyway be the dead spirits.

Why? We can only speculate. And they brought their diner with them.
Hogs and pigs certainly were a mainstay of many cultures of olden day.

Take note this below is about burials at stonehenge not cremations, that, may have been early, if the info I saw on documentary some years back was correct.

..." Most know Stonehenge for its circle of towering, seemingly immovable monoliths, but perhaps lesser known is that during the site’s early days, it mainly functioned as a cemetery. Thousands of years after the first interments at Stonehenge, the dead are finally revealing their secrets—and, according to a new study published in Scientific Reports, the biggest revelation is that many of those buried at the site originally came from some 140 miles away in western Wales.

...However, the remains, which date to about 3000 through 2500 B.C.E, appear to coincide with the estimated time period of the monument’s early construction.
“The earliest dates are tantalizingly close to the date we believe the bluestones arrived, and though we cannot prove they are the bones of the people who brought them, there must at least be a relationship,” co-author John Pouncett tells Kennedy.


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..." Although the Lorentz theory of the electron was already complete, Planck did not accept electrons and instead described "the energy flowing across a spherical surface of a certain radius containing the resonator." He assumed the resonators could be described as having energy values limited to multiples of . "....


OOOO

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(  )(  )(   )(  )

(><)(><)(><)(><) ergo (/\/\/)(/\/\/)  invaginating, spiral surface geodesics of Quantum Space-time tori 

(>*<) i  (>*<) = bilateral consciousness * i  * is the most complex resultant of our physical --sine-wave associated--- physical reality resultant inside the tube of these myriad set of Quantum Space-time Tori. i is Meta-space ego



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@zedvictor4
Britain's are a mongrel race.
Yeah, that is also what this teacher makes clear in this History of England vid.

Instead of England or British Isles he points out that in his lecture he will more often reference Land of the Celts or something like that. The Celt pagans were there for thousand of years prior to England.

I saw another program about Stonehenge and how the Pagans cremated there dead and buried them in large pit that went around Stonehenge.  Then some years --500 yrs later--- these individual graves of a person with glittery metal buried with them.  This was new introduction of peoples from European continent, tho it is not clear exactly who and exactly where these people were originally from.

The other thing I learned from this other program about Stonehenge, was that there were these other festival gathering places just short distance away, with pits of hog bones --and maybe other animals-- but what they discovered from the hog bone genetics, was that these hogs varied greatly and meant they were brought from all over the British isles to for these festivals near Stonehenge.



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@John_C_87

....time is a circles circumference......

A perfect circle is imaginary aka Meta-space concept and is associated with XY XZ or ZY,  two dimensions only as a circular plane/area or polygon of any number of chord/edges.   You offer us no cosmic logical, common sense critical thinking as to why 24 is more cosmic than 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 etc chords/edges that defined a 2D plane area, as non-perfect circles, just lower frequency of polygon

Clocks are no longer circular.  They are digital now and have relation to a 2D circle plane/area any more.

Once again, a lot of words without much of significant relevance and you certainly offer nothing that invalidates general relativity. And you never will. Hot air is goof for filling balloons to rise into the sky. That is more where you specialty may lead to
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@hey-yo
I dont know.  Nothing?

Thats because you dont seek the truth and facts via logical, common sense critical thinking even after presented to you clearly.  Your choice


.."A new message

This message announced that there was a kingdom greater than Rome, that God would provide and that the poorest members of society would find relief and hope. It was a completely new message – one which excited his audiences.

Although his message was proving popular, the claim of his disciples that Jesus was the son of God offended many people. What’s more, his ideas were revolutionary and threatened to undermine thousands of years of social tradition. "...
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There exists no creator God, ergo,at best we have non-creator God as Universe/God, that. does not love or hate you.

Creator God is non-sense fiction ---occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed---  and there is little to no evidence that a person name Jesus ever existed as the son-of-God or perhaps much of the stories told regarding  a mythical Jesus is also mythical fantasy, that, at best based on some person made some kind of stand against Romans etc, and that became larger false narrative we label as Jesus.


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When we divide each of the 24 by 60 and get more lines, the new lines still stay inside the circumference of the circle. When we divide the 60 by another 60 equal lines want to guesswhat still happens every time? 

When do you get to the significantly relevant points{s}.  You type much without saying much that is of significance relevance to what Ive been presenting regarding, general relativity formula.

In fact I'm doing most of the leg work. You not so much and when you do it is late in game.  maybe your just short on time.
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Wathing history of England on prime video.  He states easiest way to insult those in the British Isles, who not English, is to lump thee Scots, Celts and Welsh into only the English.
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@Public-Choice
Oh good glad you found some humor there.   I thought this was a recent vid, and there was joke about it being easter taking place at thanksgiving  --- like in Trumpet doesnt know Sioux Falls is not in Iowa sort of thing--. Later I see the skit was in May so was easter.
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