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@John_C_87
Sorry John I have no idea what your going on about.  I not a mathemctcian and I dont have to be to know that newtons formula works as G force and that Einsteins space-tiem metric works because it has been proven over and over experiementally.

Ive presented in one or more topic at DArt how Roger Penrose won a nobel prize in 2018 for his 1965 one page paper that proved Einsteins general relativity formula is correct and predicts null geodes incompleteness aka singularities in black holes.

So again unless you can explain yourself better to the layperson { like me } then most of us have no idea what you going on about. My speculation is, it is just mind game on your part that is does not compute with general relativity as Einsteins space-time metric does.

View the links  I post, maybe you will begin to address them specifically and with explanation for us lay people to have any idea what it is you think your going on about
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@FLRW
Praise the Lord!
Give Trumpet a hat and a cane.  ....' there's no business like show business, of this I'm sure '.....

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@sadolite
" defend against a common enemy." I am not communist so I would be the enemy to half the country.
Earth to Sadolite.  Earth to Sadolite.
The year is 2023 not 1933. 
If your depressed --you appear so to me--- then the new deal is what you need. World 2 is what ended the depression. FDR did no better that Hoover in ending the depression according to this vid at 1:55 time stamp. This goes along with what Zed states. I'm just now beginning to understand this.

..." The New Deal was a series of programs and projects instituted during the Great Depression by President Franklin D. Roosevelt that aimed to restore prosperity to Americans. When Roosevelt took office in 1933, he acted swiftly to stabilize the economy and provide jobs and relief to those who were suffering. Over the next eight years, the government instituted a series of experimental New Deal projects and programs, such as the CCC, the WPA, the TVA, the SEC and others. Roosevelt’s New Deal fundamentally and permanently changed the U.S. federal government by expanding its size and scope—especially its role in the economy. "...

There needs to be a SNL skit with Trumpet running against FDR and Eleanor. How would Trumpet treat FDR and his wife?
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Trumpets Last Supper SNL
I just came across this couple days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj6E2_3nraQ
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Question for Trump Supporters
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@Greyparrot
That Idea is deranged.
Most of Trumpets ideas are deranged { nutter  butter chaos } and your a MAGA at heart ergo nutter butter chaos supporter.  That is  most of DArts view of you, with good cause. Your short quips of negative Trumpet comments are toe placate, nothing more.

..." This is when he  --[ Trumpet ]---  crossed one of the last remaining lines that separated his usual authoritarian bluster from recognizable fascism:

......We will drive out the globalists, we will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists. We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country … On Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible … legally or illegally to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.....

As the New York University professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat later pointed out to The Washington Post, Trump is populating this list of imaginary villains (which she sees as a form of projection) in order “to set himself up as the deliverer of freedom. Mussolini promised freedom to his people too and then declared dictatorship.”

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@zedvictor4
Good questions Zed, that, I have no answer for.  Did you read the web site and view Kahns vid I posted?  Maybe the answers for you are there
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@zedvictor4
For Opera VPN extensions, the least costly, and not free, are two.

$4.99 Norton WiFI Privacy

$5.83 a month StrongVPN

I have relative in IT and he says VPN is for paranoid people. If I could afford it I would get the $4.99 Mozilla for firefox.
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@zedvictor4
..True dat....
True data is that which is not in error of accounting and especially cosmic accounting. Ex quantum entanglement.

..."If the researcher measures the direction of one particle's spin and then repeats the measurement on its distant, entangled partner, that researcher will always find that the pair are correlated: if one particle's spin is up, the other's will be down (the spins may instead both be up or both be down, depending on how the experiment is designed, but there will always be a correlation). Returning to our dancer metaphor, this would be like observing one dancer and finding them in a pirouette, and then automatically knowing the other dancer must also be performing a pirouette. The beauty of entanglement is that just knowing the state of one particle automatically tells you something about its companion, even when they are far apart. "...

I..................I both vertical, however, then can both be vertical yet still be spin up { I^ } and spin down { Iv } opposites. H,mmm

I..................-- one vertical and one horizontal dependent on how the experiment was designed is interesting consideration.

I had always thought entanglement meant their orientations would be opposites or in my past speculations,  at 90 degrees to each other from time of seperation and particle A { in superposition of horizontal and vertical or I^ and Iv, the particle B is in superposition also until, particle A is quantized { decoherence/collapsed/observed }. My speculation was apparrently like Einsteins and known has a ..' hidden variable '.... So Ive apparrently be incorrect all these years. So that incorrect assessment is for the lesser good, or even of no good at all ergo bad cause in error of truth?

Here below is why, apparrently.

..." The choice of the viewing angle changed the outcome of the experiment, which means that there cannot be any hidden information buried inside a particle that determines its spin before it is observed. The dance of entanglement materializes not from any one particle but from the connections between them. "

So this ..' choice of the viewing angle '.. is what becomes key to whether the Particle A and Particle B are the same, opposites etc.  If scroll the web site above you will see a good graphic of what they mean by ..' change of the viewing angle '...

The greater good is always the a better accounting system { true data } with less errors.  So to understand superpostion see this Kahn vid in old fashion scenario
 
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@John_C_87
..."8Pi is not an error"...
No one said it is an error. Your either having mental issues or play mind games cause you have nothing better to do.

Maybe some of both. I think you state a lot of bogus generalized stuff of insignificance.
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@hey-yo
For people ---too young or just ignorant of Biblical Jesus--    who are too lazy to let their fingers do the walking to find truth some of the historical fantasies found in Bible.

.."A new message

This message announced that there was a kingdom greater than Rome, that God would provide and that the poorest members of society would find relief and hope. It was a completely new message – one which excited his audiences.

Although his message was proving popular, the claim of his disciples that Jesus was the son of God offended many people. What’s more, his ideas were revolutionary and threatened to undermine thousands of years of social tradition. "...
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Seek logical common sense critical thinking and ye may find truth and facts.

There exists no creator God, ergo,at best we have non-creator God as Universe/God, that. does not love or hate you.

Creator God is non-sense fiction ---occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed---  and there is little to no evidence that a person name Jesus ever existed as the son-of-God or perhaps much of the stories told regarding  a mythical Jesus is also mythical fantasy, that, at best based on some person made some kind of stand against Romans etc, and that became larger false narrative we label as Jesus.

That is my best logical, common, sense critical thinking assessment..


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@hey-yo
You obviously know little of the jesus - Rome story. Plenty on the net for you to educate yourself.
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@John_C_87
Better info in the two links Ive posted previously that you may have glanced at and not processed thoroughly enough they are easy to process

I first posted this vid in #148 that you appear to given a glance and I give time stamps significant info to me.

Then next I gave # 153 this for calculating the G force and again, better clarity with someone to guide you.

And last  I gave Jon Baez explanation for  the 8 that is clearer if not more on point for why the 8 --beyond your use of word 8 and unit circles---

Sorry John but you explanations are lacking in clarity, at least for me. The latter being the most significant to my query of 8. John gave good explanation that you seemed to have glossed over.

......" Planck screwed up and invented a constant h that was too big by a factor of 2 pi, forcing someone to invent hbar = h / 2 pi.

Then the 2 is double ini Maxwells equations ergo 4, and then double again as 8 in the space-time  that is inclusive of the G field equations, thanks mostly to Schwarschild and Einstein putting all of the pieces together with some math on his part. You I and other need to review those are find a better one that connects, the 2, 4, and 8 with even more clarity for us non math lay people.


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@zedvictor4
From Mozilla site

...." Are Free VPNs a Security Risk?
Yes! Again, if a company is offering a VPN for free, what money do they have to ensure the most secure infrastructure for the product? Free VPNs don't have the resources to develop and maintain strong security protocols. This leaves you and your devices vulnerable to cyber threats. Your data is also used as collateral to sell to companies for targeting purposes. Mozilla VPN uses device-level traffic encryption that protects all your internet traffic no matter what device you're using to access the web. Not to mention it’s coming from a company like Mozilla that has years of  expertise in online security. "...
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Soviet River Rockets
One photo in link to this soviet plane.

..." 1. The KM Ekranoplan (aka 'The Caspian Sea Monster')
.......Less a plane than "a boat that flies," the giant Ekranoplan represented a completely new kind of vehicle when a champagne bottle was cracked against its nose and it slid into the Caspian Sea in 1966.
........The freakish addition to the Soviet navy used what pilots call the "ground effect," where airflow under low-flying wings creates a cushion of high pressure (the reason some seabirds skim just above the water, and why passenger planes sometimes loft slightly before touching down). When CIA agents first spotted the mysterious vehicle in satellite images, they were said to have been so spooked that a plan was hatched to fix a camera onto a radio-controlled "bird" in order to get more detailed photos. (The plan was dropped after the drone-bird repeatedly crashed in tests.)
.......And maybe they were right to be worried. The Caspian Sea Monster could scream along at 650 kilometers per hour, would skim harmlessly over antiship mines, and flew too low for most radar to spot. One analyst told the Science Channel: "[The Soviets] could be invading San Francisco in three hours and we wouldn’t know they were there until they arrived."...

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@Greyparrot
Shouldn't you be asking President Kamala that question, troll?
Maybe you { OGP } should use some logical, common sense critical thinking and ask George Santos that question and many more.

Why do these MAGA's  get so much support so many nutters in USA and elsewhere?

Sidney Powell and Ellis admitted guilt once they knew their criminal actions meant prison and worse for them.

Too bad there is no compassionate way to get most of the MAGA nutters to admit their illogical lack of common sense and critical thinking. Sad :--( prospect for future of humanity as these type produce so much false narrative and all of that is going to get worse via AI
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@Best.Korea
There exists no creator God, ergo,at best we have non-creator God as Universe/God, that. does not love or hate you.

Creator God is non-sense fiction ---occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed only transformed---  and there is little to no evidence that a person name Judas ever existed as the son-of-God or perhaps much of the stories told regarding  a mythical Jesus is also mythical fantasy, that, at best based on some person made some kind of stand against Romans etc, and that became larger false narrative we label as Jesus.

That is my best logical, common, sense critical thinking assessment..
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@zedvictor4
Universe { non-creater God }  has not any .."greater good ".. or greater bad purpose, intentions, logic common sense, critical thinking or morals.

Only humans have these qualities or processes that lead to stated qualities of good, bad etc.

The Winchester rifle was good for US military and bad of the indians.

This list of human applied, good and bad,  of course applies to --to whatever degree---  to every event that occurs within Universe.




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Once Again, Fighting Abortion
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@YouFound_Lxam
If the business involves a completely separate human, that is not biologically part of the mother's body in any way shape or form, then yes, it is my business to care about innocent lives being taken. 

False. You and others like you need to cease and desist your perverted, immoral actions of sticking  your friggin nose into all pregnant womans bodily business and learn what the words bodily autonomy means specifically.

But they are not independent living organisms. 
That s correct. The live egg is integral part of womans systemic integrity and live spermozao is integral part of mans systemic system, that, is gifted to the woman, and that spermazoas life span is now dependent on the womans systemic integrity.

Just as the fertilized egg is an integral part of pregnant womans bodily autonomy that you others like you whose peverted and immoral actions violate. Please cease and desist immediately unless she gives your consent.

A child breaths air and remains a child until legal adulthood.

Be my guest. Test me. 
The facts are above as stated.

Just because the child is affected by the environment it is in for a short period of time, doesn't mean it is intrinsically part of the woman's body.
The fetus/baby --not yet a child that has taken its first inspirited breath---   is is sustained by pregnants woman systemic integrity from the time the man gifts the woman with his sperm and you seem to be ignorant of these obvious facts and look create a false narrative to false validate your and others perverted and immoral actions and against a pregnant womans bodily autonomy unless she gives you  consent

Ok, but if it is never medically necessary, even in life threatening situations, then why should it be a right?
Your still playing your perverted and immoral,  { I'm ignorant } sick-n-head false narrative card. Keep your friggin nose out of pregnant womans --and all other humans--- bodily autonomy, unless you have been given consent. Do you understand the above words coming off my finger tips?

May I suggest self-control?
You an your immoral  perverted types are the ones who need to  practice self control y keeping your friggin nose out pregnants womams bodily business, unless she gives consent.

8+ > billion people on Earth, and they all have strong genetic drives as Ive laid out clearly and you pretend ignorance, or irrelevancy.

1}  air to breath ergo oxygen,

2} hydration, and nutrition ex suckling breast for immune building 
..." Breastfeeding has many benefits for you and your baby. It helps build your baby’s immune system and offers the perfect nutrition. Some of the health benefits to you include a lower risk of breast and ovarian cancer. "...

3} shelter ex warmth,  cooling for circumstances.

Abortion is just the excuse for women who have no self-control and have no accountability. 
Nature aborts fetus/baby and a pregnant. woman is a part of nature who makes all bodily autonomy decisions, unless she gives consent for others to stick their nose into your her bodily business. Nature has allowed for invention of abortion, that included pills is least intrusive process that also can be used as a prevention method an allows for female and male to fulfill their genetic drive to have sex.

My guess is that it is immoral conservative and resultant perverted actions like you, that,  have fought against pills or other to prevent fertilization since...

  Ex  immoral perverted action..." 1873 Congress passes the Comstock Act, which criminalizes using the U.S. Postal Service to mail any obscenity, contraceptives, abortifacients, or sex toys and authorizes the postal service to confiscate birth control sold through the mail. The law’s chief proponent and namesake Anthony Comstock becomes a special agent for the U.S. Postal Service to enforce the law. Many states pass similar laws in the following years.

.....1950 While in her 80s, Sanger organizes support for research to create the first birth control pill.

.....1960 The first oral contraceptive, Enovid, a mix of the hormones progesterone and estrogen, is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). It quickly became known simply as “the Pill.”
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..."Around 3000 BCE Ancient societies, including Crete and Egypt, begin developing condoms made from animal and fish bladders or intestines and linen sheaths.

...1619-1870 Black women draw upon African folk remedies to create medicines that are shared and spread among enslaved populations to resist coerced reproduction by white men.

...1855 The first rubber condom is produced.

And there is much more ---at the above URL---   that those such as yourself who continue to force your immoral perverted actions onto pregnant women without their consent.
https://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/a-brief-history-of-birth-control/








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@John_C_87
My bad 156 above. For clarity via John Baez

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@zedvictor4
Zed I dont have any idea what you greater good is, or how it relates to its opposite lesser good. ??????????
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@John_C_87
see post 126 for some clarity
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@zedvictor4
One differentiates, between a greater good in terms of a positive outcome, and good and bad in terms of human behaviour.
Zed if this above addressing a comment by me, then please post my comment, and then elaborate with clarity how your above is specifically changes my thoughts is valid or not etc in some way.

Here again is what I stated to you, in post #7, where I think I was addressing comment by you

.EB..... 'Universe { finite non creator God } does not operate on "good" and bad. 

Communication > cause > effect > resultant{s}....eternally........with pinnacle resultant of black holes as most complex integrity  { perhaps } and humans close 2nd as most complex integrity. '....

The winchester rifle was good for US cavalry and bad for indians, an this kind of good - bad list goes on and on an on. Old news to you most likley

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@zedvictor4
Russia maybe. Currently going through a difficult patch due to it's Ukrainian debacle

Well at least Putins rehtoric mentions their use, yeah.

The other obvious one --that I didnt list in 1 - 3---  is some nuking Iran, or, and be clear here, this is in regards to what may,  or surely does already exist, portable nukes ---like we've seen in movies last 20 years or more--- that could go off God knows where on Earth. 

I gave my guesses of most likely. Those guess may change tommorrow as circumstances on Earth change. Who knows what the future will bring. Best to you in Wales or wherever you find yourself 
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@zedvictor4
Zed glad you having such nice weather in you localized area, or the whole of Britain, Wales, Ireland etc.

Mostly that is irrelevant to greenhouse effect > global warming > erratic climate change on Earth.  Peerhap,s you already understand that and if you do, then I need not say more. Ex in USA few years bacck and maybe over 5 years, New England on East coast had some of those five years or so, theses terrible blizzard storms, and unusual cold temps etc, and you here the whine from some on the net about how that was evidence that global warming is a croak. I'll  stop there before it sounds like a unnecessary rant on you.  Best to yoou British who live in Wales :--))
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@IlDiavolo
..for the sake of justice Israel should leave this land because it was already occupied by Palestinians. ..
I support them both. As I stated some days back, in old testament we have eye for eye and tooth for tooth sayings, that originate prior to Bible in Babylon Summarabi times and and carved in stone. So the three primary Biblical reliions have connection to that way of thinking, however, I stated, ---like more and more saying--- I think with that religous saying that Israelis have gone a little overboard in the quest to root out those Hamas neighbors who desire only death to all Israelis.

Historically goes back how far as Zed4 would  consider?  Rodney King who was attacked and beaten by white mob stated later ....cant we all just get along?....
There are numerous conflicts of peoples and nations against nations going on.  I think the greater concern to be resolved is global issue --thats all humans--  of many conflicts existent or to become more significant. 

..." Mizrahi (“Eastern” or “Oriental”), Mizrahim (“Eastern Jews”), Mizrahiyut
(“Eastern-ness”) refer to Jews coming from the Arab and Muslim world,
including Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon,
Syria, Iraq, Iran, and Turkey. Mizrahim have been in the Middle East
continuously for over 2500 years, starting with the expulsion of Jews
from Israel to Babylon. Mizrahi has been used as a derogatory term to
describe non-European Jews, especially those from the Arab world, with
overtones of poor education and lack of culture and economic
resources. Some call themselves Mizrahim to reclaim their Middle
Eastern identities and to resist European Jewish hegemony. The term
“Oriental,” as Edward Said described in his book Orientalism, is
connected to the racist categorization used by European colonizers to
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@John_C_87
Why 8?
Ok so this below sort of jives with what John is saying about unit circles, and helps a whole lot, but that part when we see the pi is obviously about unit circles.  Here below we begin to touch on why the 8 and it is because of a previous 4 and 2 that gets increased for various reasons in the spacetime metric..

This below is a quote for John Baez the mathematician who's favorite numbers are 5, 8 and 24.

.."Note that this isn't the first time we've had to muck with fundamental
constants by throwing in geometrical factors that involve pi. Planck
screwed up and invented a constant h that was too big by a factor of
2 pi, forcing someone to invent hbar = h / 2 pi. I think the problem
was that Planck was thinking about wavelengths instead of frequencies,
which makes the circumference of the unit circle show up in a lot of
basic formulas.

Similarly, some systems of units in electromagnetism produce yucky
factors of 4 pi in Maxwell's equations - basically because this is
the area of the unit sphere. The modern attitude is that we shouldn't
stick geometrical factors in our fundamental laws of physics; instead,
we should let them appear on their own when we solve problems using
these laws. The **4 pi shows up when you derive the inverse square law
from Maxwell's equations, since the electric field spreads out in a
spherically symmetric way.**

This time, the problem is the irritating factor of 8 pi in Einstein's
equation. Why did we ever screw up and feel the need to put that in
there? The factor of 4 pi in here is again due to the area of the unit
sphere."...

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@zedvictor4
@Best.Korea

..."My guess is its gonna be hot. I like warm, but not hot."..
NK, More days in year over 90 degrees is the most immedidately significant resultant, and less so,  more single day, record breaking temperatures. Those have always been more common. Is what I recall reading few years back. Above 90 degree days will become more common in spring and fall as I best recall.

..."Almost three decades on, 1990 is often remembered as one of the hottest summers on record. Temperatures in early August peaked at 37.1C (98.9F), in the Gloucestershire town of Cheltenham, beating the previous record set in the summer of 1911.

Elsewhere across the UK records were set too, including the highest temperature for Wales : 35.2C in Flintshire

UK weather: Heatwave timeline, 1911-2014"...


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@zedvictor4
@FLRW
If there is a greater good to be achieved, then we can only assume that everything is a sequence of events that happens for a reason in accordance with a  predetermined plan.
Universe { finite non creator God } does not operate on "good" and bad. 

Communication > cause > effect > resultant{s}....eternally........with pinnacle resultant of black holes as most complex integrity  { perhaps } and humans close 2nd as most complex integrity.

FLWR..." a small part of the brain that are very primal. "...
..." Humans have one brain, but it has really developed over time and become more complex, leaving us with essentially two brains.
A modern brain and a primal brain."...

Your modern brain (frontal cortex) is responsible for problem solving, memory, language, judgment, impulse control, and reasoning.
Your primal brain (hindbrain and medulla) is responsible for survival, drive, and instinct. "....
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..." A 2022 study in thescientific journal Science put another nail in the coffin regardingthe myth --the triune brain-- of a reptilian brain deep inside our brain. ---as put forth by doctor Paul D. MacLean in the 1960s....Carl Saganpopularized this way of thinking in his book The Dragons of Eden,published in 1977. "..


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@FLRW
.... "Iowa crowd, saying, "Very big hello to a place where we've done very well. Sioux Falls, thank you very much, Sioux Falls. And thank you."..
James Austin Johnson as Trumpet is a  great 1st  Easter vid { at thanksgiving Ha } Never heard of this James Johnson before today.

This one I noticed after seeing the really good one above ^^^ 
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@FLRW
Which side do you think will be the first to use nukes?
1} Pakistan - India

2} North Korea

 Insects are considered animals
There are more species of the ants { insects } than any other animal on Earth.
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@John_C_87
8Pi is part of the Unit Circle in algebra and is used to calculate a rotation in degrees, earths gravitational constant is 6.673 ^ -11 Newton describes the gravitational constant of the universe as it is derived from a circle in a rotation of travel as time.
G is as constant irrespective of mass.

Please share valid evidence web site{s} for you answer to my question of why the 8 in Einsteins spacetime formula as found in the Sean Carro'sl vid I posted. LINK
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@oromagi
Better read than dead vs .."better dead than read"...

And the forum is not dead and it is in no way descended into what happened to the original other DART { what mess }.
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No numerical 8 in any of the following info I found on Gravity constant G. So my question still stand, why do  Einstiens formula use 8 * pi as found in the vid as 8pi GT uv....  Here time stamp 52:45 for formula with 8 in it 5 in this Sean Carrol vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRudidBcfXk
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Obviously Einstiens involvement of spacetime is includes Newtons G, in with spacetime metric.  But why the 8?.

Gravity constant is like this  Force = mass * acceleration

mass 1  and mass 2 and r as radius is halfway between center of each mass radius a plus radius 2 = total distance between center of two masses. Here is another way of viewing the r1 and r2 is is G constant is divided{?} by distance to 2nd power { divided  distance ^2 |in with whole formula.  .." F = (G * m1 * m2) / d^2. "..or so I found on another web site.

..." where, F is the gravitational force between bodies, m1 and m2 are the masses of the bodies, r is the distance between the centrers of two bodies, G is the universal gravitational constant.

...The constant proportionality (G) in the above equation is known as the universal gravitation constant. Henry Cavendish experimentally determined the precise value of G. The value of G is found to be **G = 6.673 x 10-11 N m2/kg2**.".... See link below

So this is evaluation by Henry C.  Tho I dont understand the the forumla. I do understand it is not numerical 8. And I found this utube. The gravitational constant as he states it is 6.673 * 10 negative 11th { ^-11 }

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@FLRW
@hey-yo
If meaning and purpose are synonyms, then the only meaning or purpose life has, is that meaning or purposed that humans apply to it.

Universe ---and Universe as God---  has no purpose, other than the purpose/meaning that humans apply to it.

Humans have functions that other animals have to lesser degrees of complexity and that access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i.

And is because of the access to Meta-space, that humans concoct morals and discover physical laws and cosmic principles, as well many other discoveries that other animals have little to know knowledge or Meta-space concepts of. Ex planet pluto, Uranus, or other stars etc.

The nutters need to stop fighting a pregnant womans right to bodily autonomy, unless that pregnants womans are directly harming them in some way that is of significant validity. Government assisted family planning etc does not have significant validity in regards to the nutters ---an all othters---  amount of taxes they contribute. 
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@John_C_87
...Time is never infinite.....
1} I agree with your above, with the caveat that there is no sum-total to observed times dimension as quanta { etc } ergo, observed time eternally exists, if, our physical reality { specific invaginated occupied space } eternally exists.

John, below i post most interesting vid by Sean Carrol below, that you may have missed. It is very clear, linear progression of how the maths of General Relativity came to exist. You may like it.

I recently posted the following in Science Without all of the Gobbldee Gook. Hope I dont get in trouble for the repost here. I need to watch it again to better direct you or others to the relevant to time as dimension points --if there are any-- and of signifcance { if any }.

I watched all of this vid. I'm curious as to what exactly the 8, in relativity formula. 8pi GT uv i.e. why the 8?  I of course want to see if my it can easily be related to my invaginated, Quantum Space-time Tori. The most obvious thing, is that is there is the primary set of four circle planes for each tori and if we have two of them at 90 degrees to each other, then we have 8 sets of pi, and we had four of those planes being the physical reality inside the tube, as a two sine-waves at 90 degrees to each other, ergo, the pattern for electro-magnetic radiation { photons ergo speed of radiation } 


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Once Again, Fighting Abortion
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@YouFound_Lxam
Human life begins at conception and should be treated as such.

Agreed that is well documented fact. So what? ? ?  Keep your nose out of pregnant womans bodily business.

The egg and sperm are both live sex cells before fertilization of the egg. Another well documented fact.

The fetus that presides in the womb of a mother, is in no way part of the mother's body no matter what way you spin it.

This is nutter talk.  Do I really have to go through the list of well documented facts as well as rather simple, logic, common sense truths that fetus is part  of pregnant woman ergo and organism of the pregnant woman for the duration of gestation and until ublicord is cut and the fetus/baby has taken its firt inspiriting breath of air? ? ?

Abortion is 98% of the time never medically necessary for a woman's health.

Abortion is the right of the pregnant woman who was given the gift of sperm from a male donor.  All others need to keep their noses out of the pregnant womans bodily business.  YFL, do you understand this rather simple concept or are you another Tuberville nutter? ? ?

I think it is extremely important, as mature as we are, to talk about sex, and its effects on people.

Yet nutters on right have been fighting public sex education for young adults for since public education has existed, is my best guess.  8 billion and rising humans on Earth is another well doucmented fact.

If an individual is scared of the possibility of getting pregnant, then they shouldn’t involve themselves in sexual relations, because no matter how much protection you give yourself, having sexual relations is by definition is consenting to the possibility of pregnancy. Just as you would get into your car, but you don’t want to crash, when you enter that car, you are consenting to the possibility of getting into a wreck. One of the ways you can defend yourself from getting an abortion, is by being smart about who you sleep with.

Ha, easier said than done fellow  human. After thirst food and maybe shelter, is does there exist any stronger genetic drive/desire then orgasm an human connection on intimate levels. And these days it is easy to take a pill to prevent or abort soon after.  And I bet you and other nutters oppose these pills also. Can you answer truthfully? ? ?

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Can Math Prove God?
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@YouFound_Lxam
Yes, if God is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts ergo math and ego/i

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@Athias
But, you can believe whatever you want.
Beliefs can be true, not or combination of both.

Truth exists and sometimes, with well documented facts to confirm the truth of what we believed to be true.

Sometimes were left to circumstantial evidence and/or our confidence in others telling of what they believe they know.


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@Athias
Some conspiracies are true others not. 

And those conspiracies can occur in any field of human activity.

Sometimes the true ones are exposed via well documented facts, and sometimes they are not. When this latter happens we are left to circumstantial evidence, and/or our confidence in those who say the conspiracy is true, or not.

Greed being the primary reason for covid vaccine or all other to exist I do not believe is truth.

Yes,  in some peoples minds, who intimately involved in the process of discovering a vaccine, greed for money may be their primary reason.  When we have evidence of them saying that was their primary reason, then we can only accept their word at face value, unless there is circumstantial evidence to dissuade us from believing their comments are not true.




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The lack of people
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@Sidewalker
It is if you are trying to get laid.
There is woman-like joke I heard from a woman. ......' Men are like automobile tires, because their usually full of hot air and they go bald '...

Is it an ego issue with men vs women? Just came across the below quote and was looking for a place to insert it. Is relevant, kind, necessary to say here and now?

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I use Internet Explorer
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@FLRW
Opera vid    on how to get there free VPN

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The lack of people
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@FLRW
There are too many males here that dropped out of school at 15.
16 was legal limit to quit school in my state, and with parents consent.

I was two months into my junior year when I followed the proverbial saying of the time { 60's } dropped out, tuned-in and turnd-on.

I chose to be outside looking in instead of inside looking out. 

.." Legend of Mind

Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no, no, he's outside, looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no, no, he's outside, looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no, no, he's outside, looking in
Timothy Leary's dead
No, no, no, no, he's outside, looking in
He'll fly his astral plane
Takes you trips around the bay
Brings you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Along the coast you'll hear them boast
About a light they say that shines so clear
So raise your glass, we'll drink a toast
To the little man who sells you thrills along the pier
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back firmly on the ground
He flies so high, he swoops so low
He knows exactly which way he's gonna go
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
He'll take you up, he'll bring you down
He'll plant your feet back on the ground
He flies so high, he swoops so low
Timothy Leary
He'll fly his astral plane
He'll take you trips around the bay
He'll bring you back the same day
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary
Timothy Leary

Songwriters: R. Thomas
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Soviet River Rockets
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@FLRW
I bet Putin gives Trump one when he becomes President again.
Lada Niva is to good for piece of Trumpet junk. Lada and Trumpet do have something in common, durability over many years.

..." In 1990, a Lada Niva was sent to the Russian station on the Antarctic continent, where the little SUV survived and thrived for 15 years without issue. As well, a Niva set the record for highest altitude driven when one reached the Mt. Everest base camp in 1998, proving just how capable it truly is.

..Despite being barebones, and lacking in any form of luxury, the Lada Niva deserves far more respect than it is given by those who are unfamiliar with the faithful machine. The Lada Niva Is As Immortal As It Gets

...The Lada Niva is often misread to be cheap, horrible, and poorly built; by the western world. They sure are some of the cheapest cars out there, but not as horrible as people think. Just like most car brands, Lada has had their hits and misses. While a lot of Russian-made cars truly are horrible creations, the Lada Niva stands out as perhaps the best car designed and made by the Soviets

....Starting life as the VAZ-2121, the car's name was changed to the Lada Niva but mechanically is still relatively unchanged and in production today. Excelling in its rugged simplicity, the Lada Niva is perhaps one of the most unstoppable and dependable SUVs anyone can buy, able to tackle off-road driving better than most expensive off-road machines as custom Jeeps can.

....Introduced to the world in 1977, the Lada Niva set itself apart from other utility vehicles with its small size, crisp and clean design, light-weight and rigid unibody frame - a rarity in a time when almost every SUV and truck used body-on-frame construction - as well as surprisingly advanced (for the time) independent suspension rather than the traditional leaf springs.

...The Lada Niva's off-roading virtues are a result of the harsh  geography that dominates much of Russia. Thanks to this uncompromising focus on all-terrain capabilities, Lada Nivas are downright unstoppable. But traversing harsh Russian terrain is one thing, conquering Antarctica is another - and that's exactly what the Niva did."....

.." The AK-47 Of Cars: Here’s Why The Lada Niva Is An Awesome SUV That Deserves Respect "....

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Science Without Gobbledygook
  I came cross this vid, and if you go to 10:50 or so, you  begin to learn how Einstein moved into general relativity and the geometry math of Minkoski that was harder for him { Einstein } to grasp, and was reluctant to go there with Minkowski's elegant way of thinking.

Then you have to jump to 18:00 when Einstein realizes he needs to learn more math, enter Grossman  > Rieman > Karl Schwarzchild and Karl was interesting as he was on western r eastern front for Germany in WW 1.  So he comes home on leave from the front and goes to see a talk by Einstein on the some long list of calculations that no person would ever do.

So KarI S. goes back to front lines against Russia and while on the front lines, figures out some short cut maths to solve all of those calculations needed to complete General Relativity.  When Einstein saw these short cuts { 47:00 or so } to answering these many calculations, he was very happy as they were the final math that allowed to G. Relativity formula to be completed.

I watched all of this vid. I'm curious as to what exactly the 8, in relativity formula. 8pi GT uv i.e. why the 8?  I of course want to see if my it can easily be related to my invaginated, Quantum Space-time Tori. The most obvious thing, is that is there is the primary set of four circle planes for each tori and if we have two of them at 90 degrees to each other, then we have 8 sets of pi, and we had four of those planes being the physical reality inside the tube, as a two sine-waves at 90 degrees to each other, ergo, the pattern for electro-magnetic radiation { photons ergo speed of radiation } 


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@FLRW
@Sidewalker
@YouFound_Lxam
..."To translate between superficially incommensurate things, you need to find common ground. One way to do that for objects like L-functions and periods, which originate in number theory, is to associate them with geometric objects."...

...“[Akshay and Yiannis] had been pushing in a direction where they’d started to see things in symplectic geometry, and that rang various bells for me,” Ben-Zvi said.
The next step came from physics....

...over the course of a couple months they worked out how to interpret data extracted from L-functions as a recipe for constructing Hamiltonian Ğ-spaces. In the picture they established, the duality between periods and L-functions translates into a geometric duality that makes sense within the geometric Langlands program and originates in the duality between electricity and magnetism. Physics and arithmetic become echoes of each other, in a way that echoes across the Langlands program.
“You might say that the original Langlands setting is now a special case of this new framework,” Gan said.
By unifying disparate phenomena, the three mathematicians have brought some of the order that’s intrinsic to the relationship between electricity and magnetism to the relationship between periods and L-functions."...

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@Athias
Haha, I thought that was implicit. But greed is definitely a reason--if not, the primary reason.
This sounds like irrational conspiracy theory to me.  

Nutters who follow irrational lines of thought process are perhaps in the millions on Earth albeit, various groups may focus on medical, political, sports, money, greed etc type issues, to whatever degree.

This is not to say that greed or worse is not existent to some degree in medical health field, only that over many years of vaccination existent, I dont think greed is high on list of reasons most vaccinations exist, and rather doubt you or other  { OGP } have evidence of other.


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@Greyparrot
Fake news. Putin has held the Donbas for years, he doesn't care about assimilating the Nazi Azovs in Ukraine.
You appear to be in fear of obvious truths OGP MAGA man. All of Ukraine is under seige from the nutcase Putin.  I see not much differrence from Putin Ganster Mafia type and MAGA ganster mafia types who fear truth and spread false narrative far and wide.
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Consciousness theory slammed as ‘pseudoscience’ — sparking uproar
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@zedvictor4
Awareness is likely to inform one that there is more than one of something and memory will allow one to remember this fact.
Hi Zed, the  world wide cyclist from the misty northern island continent fogg-in-de-wane-de-marsh :--))

Awareness = two-ness = other-ness.  Mininmal  two-ness * * or as o o with a line-of-relationship that connects them in some way. Ex Gravity, and that line-of-realationship can be a straight line ------------ or sine-wave /\/\/ { more wave-linear ~~~ if you prefer } or full blown geodesic (o)(  )(  )(o) or as (*)( )( )(*)

So it's likely that awareness and a memory of quantity occurred prior to a corresponding symbolic or pictorial account.
yes, recreated visual image scratched onto any medium available.   Ex a bird  --v--   or a   fish >---> or a turtle  >(**)<

The recall with counting of how many they saw with their eyes (*..*)    
>(**)<
1 1 1
i.e.. 3 turtles

Though scratching rocks with rocks or earth with sticks was probably a very early practice.
The earliest  images  I was able to recall and then recreate in wet dirt was what we called round mudpies.  I had forgotten this old memory  til your above comments. Thx Zed




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@Greyparrot
You mean the Donbas region? Ukraine wants to eliminate every Russian speaker from the region and replace them with Ukrainians.
I stated Ukraine and spoke about Putin.  Perhaps you dont understand my words.

These were Ukraine's stated goals since 2014, long before Putin permanently halted the genocide. Forced relocation, forced assimilation, all at gunpoint and indiscriminate artillery strikes. Same thing America did to the Indians...Same thing as what Israel does to Gaza...only there is no Middle East "Putin" to stop the genocide this time.

Putin is attacking all of Ukraine, and that is much more than taking a smaller region for the reasons you give.

First they took Crimea  now some years latter the whole of Ukraine is under siege/invasion.  I think your confused and MAGA person and needs to be educated on truth, moral ethics, fairness and respect for human condition, that, if appears to be failing its test for continued existence on Earth because of its lack of respect the biologic life and the ecological environment that sustains us all.  

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@Garrettwest38
If we are going to talk about the land and who is the first to have the land,...
Similar in someways to Ukraine issues, tho not the primary reason Putin gives

However I do think there is already reason to believe Israel may be making misteps.

Three religions based in/on the bible if I understand correctly.  If it is 'eye for and eye', then Israel has gone overboard trying to kill those most directly responsible and to whatever degree those in Gaza who supporrted Hamas.

.."Or have we been seeing (buh dum tssh) this the wrong way? Let’s dive into the meaning of this phrase found in Exodus 21:24.
Where Does the Phrase Eye for an Eye Come From?...

...The phrase actually originates in the Mesopotamian Empire under Hammurabi. Or at least, archeological evidence can trace nothing further back than the Code of Hammurabi. In many Middle Eastern cultures (and some lands beyond) during the Old and New Testament, people operated off of a Karma-esque principle. That if someone harms you in a certain way, they receive a punishment to repay for the damages."...
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