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1983{4}.....Wife and I purchased Critical Path and maybe was the first time I heard about Greenhouse Effect. Critical Path was wedding gift to ourselves. I recall reading about Fullers death in 1983 in Time magazine or the other one like time. I already new of him and had briefly skimmed Synergetics a few years before that. Had heard various things about him and enough to know I wanted to know more.
..."When Hansen appeared before the United States Senate in June of 1988, the world had just experienced the warmest first five months of any year in recorded history, The New York Times reported at the time.
Up until that time, scientists had been cautious about blaming the warming of the planet on pollutants put into the air by human activity. But Hansen told the committee that NASA was 99% certain that the warming trend was caused by the buildup of carbon dioxide and other gases in the atmosphere.
Sadly, the problem has continuously gotten worse worldwide in the decades since. And Hansen has continued his fight to bring attention to the issue. In 2011, he was one of 140 people to be arrested while protesting the construction of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline."...
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@ponikshiy
China's Bejing is smog hole.
..." Many of Beijing's 22 million residents donned face masks on Wednesday morning as they snaked through streets shrouded in a grey haze.
The pollution in some areas has been classified as "severe" and has at times lowered visibility to less than 50 metres (164 feet).
Beijing has experienced five days with "unhealthy" pollution levels in the last week, compared to just three such days in the past three weeks, air quality monitoring firm IQAir's data showed.
IQAir said Beijing was the third most-polluted major city on Earth on Wednesday, just ahead of Bangladesh's capital Dhaka.
Beijing's concentrations of hazardous PM 2.5 particles were more than 20 times higher than World Health Organisation guidelines, the firm said. "
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@Sidewalker
No
Yes, digital machines communicate and sense smell, hear, taste{?} and speak.
Gravity waves are the physical manifestation of the whole reacting to the changed distribution of mass
This is where I make a distinction between physical ---as occupied space mass of reality we can instrumentally detect quantise--- vs occupied space of Gravity and Dark Energy that we have not --and most likely never will--- detect directly i.e. quantise tho maybe{?} quantify---.
.....but cannot truly and fully understand what they represent because we are an animal whose mind is still awakening.
I disagree in so far as, human minds are not only the most awaken of all creatures, there is no further awakening that is possible i.e. having access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego is the most awakened.
To clarify, our differrence seems to be in defining the word awakening. We are maximally awaken i.e. most complex creatures, that we know to exist. Gaining more knowledge about our environment { the Universe that includes us } is not more awakening, it is just more knowledge gained, and/or understood and the comprehened.
Awakened is the maximal unfolding that culminates with access the most complex aspects of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego....* i *
More knowledge comes with the ability to access Meta-space mathematical dimensions beyond 3D plus time and I argue is not more being awakened, only more knowledge, not some more awakened ability to know more. The access to Meta-space ability is there with most humans. Or as Bucky Fuller liked to say, we're all born geniuses and our conditioning takes us more or less in that direction what is labeled as genius.
Math { counting } came before written word. Or so Fullers says there is evidence of. Did math come before picto-graphs is a differrent question.
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@Sidewalker
Do rocks have consciousness due to the fact that rocks are made from atoms?
All nervous system animals have consciousness from least complex nematodes to most complex humans.
If even less complex consciousness exists then we go the other direction... two-ness/other-ness <<<< sub-atomics ( ex 2 or 3 quarks } <<< atomics { hydrogen least complex } <<< molecular <<< viruses <<< single celluar organisms <<<< plants <<<<< fungi <<<< animals <<<< mammals <<< humans.
Memory is a significantly key ingredient to more complex consciousness. Do digital machines communicate with each other? Can digital machines smell, taste, hear, talk/sing? Yes
..." “In a pond, after the ripples pass, the water returns to its old level,” says David Garfinkle, a cosmologist at Oakland University in Michigan. You might imagine that after the gravitational wave has passed, the fabric of the universe returns to normal too. “But it doesn’t,” says Garfinkle. In fact, Albert Einstein’s general theory of relativity, which says that gravity results from mass warping space-time, predicts that gravitational waves should ever-so-subtly shift the structure of space-time in their wake. In other words, the universe remembers."...
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@Greyparrot
I'd rather have someone uncontrollably shitting out of his ass than the diarrhea that comes out of Biden's mouth which has put us on the brink of WW3 and global economic collapse. So much for an upgrade to Trump... but what can you expect from the radical left.
And you imply that you didnt vote for Trumpet and do not support him. What a crock. Trumpet and his supporters all full of crock.
..."To balance the federal budget, government revenue must meet or exceed government spending. That's happened only twice in the past half-century: President Lyndon Johnson did it in 1969, and President Bill Clinton from 1998 to 2001."...
i'm not a fan of spending government money we dont have and going deeper in debt. All if not most people are conservative with their money to maintain a their personal minimal standards. Globally, the poverty levels of humanity is less than ever for the ratio of humans.
i'm not a fan of spending government money we dont have and going deeper in debt. All if not most people are conservative with their money to maintain a their personal minimal standards. Globally, the poverty levels of humanity is less than ever for the ratio of humans.
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@FLRW
And the DebateArt Albert Einstein Award for the most intelligent person on this site goes to..................................................EBUC !
Ha, thx for vote of confidence FLRW, however, all I really have to offer is the ability to read, semi-understand and semi-comprehend what ive read over the years.
If I had a truly Einsteinian ability --ergo math abilities of mind educations etc--- I would be able to make some accurate physics predictions from my numerical and geometric explorations. That clearly has not happened, much as I may believe { 75% }, that, I'm on the correct path to discovering some fundamental aspects of Universe [ @ }.
As a child of 60's --ergo Outer Space, Apollo, Star Trek, Science fiction etc--- I certainly was inclined toward cosmic thinking scenarios. As ive presented before, at around 10 or 11 years of age, laying in a field with my two best friends, and looking at night sky, I stated, that, maybe we could be inside another very large humans body, that large person could be inside another even larger persons body etc so on and so on.
So one the brothers next to me slaps me in arm saying...why you thinking stuff like that ?.....I dont recall if I had an answer or replied to him at that time.
Coming across Bucky Fullers writings, certainly and greatly inflamed my cosmic thinking spirit { 4 primary kinds/types }.
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@sadolite
If science had the ability to terraform another planet like they fantasize about doing to Mars, they could fix everything wrong with this planet. Why don't theyre-terraform this planet, 99.9% of the work is already done.
Good point Sad, 99.9% of work is done and yet humanity still not unified enough to acknowledge { ignorant dummies } and address the oncoming/pending doom of ecological scenarios. Ex lack of fresh water.
Ex ignorant idiots over the years who repeatedly state there is no fresh water issue.
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@zedvictor4
Though risk of death is higher relative to age and health status at time of infection.
Hi Zed. Last I read, 1% of those over 65 --I presume this was USA only, not sure--- died from Covid related infections.
Ive had all Covid vaccinations, and to best of my knowledge Ive not had Covid yet. That is surprising to some considering my work environment, where sometimes { once or twice a day } I was not masked and relatively near coworkers.
Ive had all Covid vaccinations, and to best of my knowledge Ive not had Covid yet. That is surprising to some considering my work environment, where sometimes { once or twice a day } I was not masked and relatively near coworkers.
Ive heard of few stories from coworkers, who knew people with Covid infections that had died or resultant complications.
I have two friends { over 65 years of age } who had heart complications months after Covid infection. Ive not talked to them personally so I got this info from my wife and other friends of mine who friends of those persons. That was a year or so ago. More recently { last few months } there was a spread of Covid in my area, and most of my friends reported terrible headaches and at least one of them has had extended issues. She is over 65.
Again, I moved out of my house at beginning of Covid and into $2,000. RV behind wife's/our house, so as not to infect my wife --should I get infected at work-- who has life long asthma, high blood pressure, and had mild stroke few years back and couple of health issues. That move cost me/her about $6,000. in total.
We still hang out together and for most part Ive always masked in house with her, except when Covid infections dropped way off a year and half or so ago. Plus on some occasions we have tested before times were going to be together for extended periods of time --ex vacation etc---.
Ive had one very bad flu infection some 25 years ago, with high temperature, body/head aches and no sleep for 3 days --- by myself with wife gone away at the time and firewood stove to maintain for warmth as it was middle of winter---. Another cold or flu maybe 15 years ago that put me out of work and in bed or resting for 5 days cause I had no energy. I dont recall high fever, however, I do remmber the first day I drove my truck again to get some materials for a construction job, I was so happy { tho still subdued energy levels } to be able to drive a all.
Some 40 years ago I had ..." The medical name is Shigella sonnei, but it's one of the germs that causes shigellosis — otherwise known as “Delhi belly” or “Montezuma's revenge.” Many international travelers are sadly familiar with the stomach cramps, diarrhea and nausea that can ruin a vacation or business trip."..
Tho not mentioned in this blurb, I had high temp for a day during this event. So, other than measles, mumps and chicken pox as a child, the above is my worst sick days that come to mind. With viral on two occasions and bacteria one.
Finally, I just had a total reverse shoulder replacement so I certainly did not any viral or bacteria infections before, or near time of surgery, or even now { two weeks out from the surgery and living in this old shack of a house }. Tho it is not winter and I now use electric and propane { if very cold } heat. I have firewood stove { not connected } if worse came to worse.
Currently the big issue is township is in drought and we're be asked to conserve water. Yikes! No fresh water is becoming larger issue globally. Yikes! And were not in a war zone like Ukraine or Gaza.
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The Trumpet years taught me what I already knew. We have a lot of unnecessary, mindless { stupid/ignorant } humans in USA and Earth.
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@Sidewalker
I think he must love idiots even more, why else would he have made so many of them.
Good point Sidewalker. Simple is easier to mass-reproduce. Ex hydrogen is the most simple atomic element and it is the most abundant in Universe, that we know of.
Bacteria are simple and reproduce more rapidly than any other biologic entity. In 90's, Fred Hoyle states in Intelligent Universe, that, if left unchecked, bacteria on Earth would reach the mass of known Universe then, in 6 months.
Also bacteria are found in in nuclear power water next to the rods containting plutonium etc. Bacteria also found in pure sulpher pool springs. So and so on of extremes where specific kinds of bacteria can exist
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@FLRW
And now his daughter being asked to testify in NY court case against Trumpet { Mr ex president joke }.
She says no, I dont want to testify. Probably afraid of what ever she says could also implicate her ---or other family members--- in possible other related frauds { ? } in her regards. I dont know.
Ivanka will call for an appeal. Her brothers hopefully also be called to testify and Mr expresident joke { malignant narcissist } himself.
When will members of this nutcase family run for president?
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@Luckyone
I bemoan the rebuilt affiliations of second-hand encountersAs the only living remnants that withstood the carnage of my soul
I read Conan books in my teens. Death Song of Conan Cimmerian
“The road was long and the road was hardAnd the sky was cold and grey:
The dead white moon was a frozen shardIn the dim pale dawn of day:
But thief and harlot, king and guard --Warrior, wizard, knave and bard --Rode with me all the way.
The wind was sharp as a whetted knifeAs it blew from the wet salt seas;
The storm wind stirred to a ghostly lifeThe gaunt black skeletal trees:
But I drank the foaming wine of life --Wine of plunder and lust and strife --Down to the bitter lees.
A boy, from the savage north I cameTo cities of silk and sin.
With torch and steel, in blood and flame,I won what a man may win:
Aye, gambled and won at the Devil’s game --Splendor and glory and glittering fame --
And mocked at Death’s skull-grin.
And there were foeman to fight and slayAnd friends to love and trust:
And crowns to conquer and toss awayAnd lips to taste with lust:
And songs to keep black night at bay -- And wine to swill to the break of day --
What matter the end be dust?
I’ve won my share of your gems and gold,They crumble into clods:
I’ve gorged on the best that life can holdAnd Devil take the odds.
The grave is deep and the night is cold --The world’s a skull-full of stinking mould --
And I laugh at your little gods!
The lean road slunk through a blasted landWhere the earth was parched and black,But we were a marry, jesting bandWho asked no easier track:Rouge and reaver and firebrand --And life rode laughing at my hand --And Death rode at my back.
The road was dusty and harsh and long,Crom, but a man gets dry!I’m old and weary and Death is strongBut flesh was born to die.Hai,Gods! But it was a merry throng --Rode by my side with jest and song --Under an empty sky.
I’ve heard fat, cunning priestlings tellHow damned souls writhe and moan,
That paradise they can buy and sellFor gold and gold alone.
To the flames with scripture and priest as well --I’ll stride down the scarlet throat of Hell --
And dice for the Devil’s throne!
I faced life boldly and unafraid,Should I flinch as Death draws near?
Life’s but a game Death and I have playedMany a wearisome year.
Hai! to the gallant friends I made,Slave and swordsman and lissome maid --I begrudge no foot of the road I strayed --The road which endeth HERE!”
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@zedvictor4
@FLRW
@Sidewalker
We have consciousness due to the fact that life is made from atoms. It's time for a whole new theory of why the Universe exists in the first place.
FLRW, I agree. Complex consciousness is made from aggregate of ultra-micro { 10^ -36 } Gravity, Dark Energy >>>> subatomic >>>> atomic >>> chemistry ergo molecular interactions.
1} Most complex and less complex consciousness ( * i * ) is created via dynamic synergy of biologic life and that access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego sometimes is the resultant.
2} Our finite, occupied space Universe{ @ } is naught lost, nor created, only transformed.
3} transformation of Universe from the small @ in a cause and effect simple linear sequence is as follows
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....space.........(b).......space..........etc
.....space........(c)........space...........etc
....space.........(b).......space..........etc
.....space........(c)........space...........etc
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@FLRW
Same goes out all for of us, humanity and the systemic and structural integrity of our finite, dynamic Universe { @ }.
.............space.....................@............................space..........
..............space.................( * i * )......................space................
.............space............biosphere Earth.............space.........
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@Lemming
@FLRW
We had offer of $400. two years ago, and he was supposed to come the next spring. This that and other caused us to lose track of that project. It was my recent being home all of the time after this should surgery replacement, that I'm walking more than ever under that tree and had nothing else to focus on.
So power co. will take care of it. Just not before some time next year. Even if we hire some one to cut --he is old work buddy friend--- it is risky and he does have insurance, but I not allow him to do it with out first contacting power co. and shutting off power, lower and move lines out of way in case tree does not go the way we would try to fell it with ropes --still could snap off--- and I would have propane tanked moved temporarily.
So power co. will take care of it. Just not before some time next year. Even if we hire some one to cut --he is old work buddy friend--- it is risky and he does have insurance, but I not allow him to do it with out first contacting power co. and shutting off power, lower and move lines out of way in case tree does not go the way we would try to fell it with ropes --still could snap off--- and I would have propane tanked moved temporarily.
So i'm out of work ---getting half pay--- and all of this above my wife has to agree too. At this point she wants to wait for power co. to do it for free, as that is what they do with these type of tree issues within so many feet of primary power lines.
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There exist degrees of consciousness. Ex pain scale from 1 - 10. Consciousness scale of 1 - 360.
See post #7
Consciousness is not difficult to explain or define.
Access to higher degrees of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts is more difficult t come to grips with, tho still not that hard to explain or define.
It all stems from nervous system that includes all mechanisms of the brain. Memory is one of the dominant keys to more moderately complex consciousness. Old news
All else is likened to superstition.
Visible radiation enters human eyes. Electro-magnitism plays a role with some animals we know with some animals.
Gravity if not also Dark Energy at the most ultra-micro-scales are there, irrespective of how much of role they may or may not play in our everyday consciousness abilities, however, when we die, there has long been this suspicison by humans of a connection to relatives, or re-incarnation etc.
The other night, I thought of dying and I believe many or most of us think of returning as another fertilized egg, fetus/baby, child etc and it can be scary cause we have no control of our lives at those times. I think this is perhaps one of the most scary cosmic aspects for any human. Not being in control and others are in control of you life from fertilization til adulthood.
And the other part of these cosmic scenarios, is that, in eternally existent occupied space Universe { @ }, if I ebuc arise again, it could be two days, 100 years, a zillion zillion years, and we have no idea of any of the time that has passed. So then I think of black holes and how that our the ultimate gravitation sink holes (--->S<---), where Roger Penrose proved Einsteins calculations that the photon geodesics in a black are null geodesics ergo Singularties of non-existence { 0 }.
However, some if not all black holes also evaporate and to me that says ...what goes in must come out...... and vice versa, what goes out must come back in i.e. naught is lost or created only transformed eternally.
.................space...............................@.....................................space...............Universe @ and whats outside of it
..................space...........................(* @ *).................................space...........conception of Universe @ by most complex mind accessing creatures
The consciousness experience limited, yet eternally reoccurring. Time via occupied space and as occupied space reality, are both eternally existent ---well maybe not the reality part, at least not in its full bloom--- despite what Einsteins Gravitation formula pointing toward Singularity / Null Geodesics
This latter part about reality Ive explained before with diagrams, of how reality is moving outward ---via Dark Energy-- and dissiapates away into geodesic Gravity field, however, my guess is, that the Gravity geodesic feeds around and and begins popping back in to existence, --- gradually { BANG! }--- or gradual accumulation til enough arrives that it goes BANG! etc.
This diagram is the 2D basics in static presentation. You have to imagine that the reality is moving toward Gravity geodesic field, and then know that at number 1, a pulse of tubular motion is higher and moves on geodesic spiral forward trajectory around vertical part of tube ---more perpendicular to the greater closed loops---, to arrive at number 2p ergo on the inner Dark Energy geodesic field.
Gravity.....1.....................5p.....7p.....................greater closed loop { likened to a circle } back to self on a outer torus surface
Reality.0...............................6...........................greater closed loop back to self on inside of torus
Reality.................3p...........................9..............greater closed loop back to self on inside of a torus
Dark Energy..2p........4...................8..................greater closed loop { likened to a circle } back to self on inner surface of torus
So as reality dissipates { expanding Universe } into the Gravitation geodesic field, it spirals around to 2p DE field and then pops back in as reality.
So most of reality was expanding outward twoward Gravity field, and suddenly, one by one ---0, 3p, 6, 9 etc--- dissiapates away rapidly, and travels around to DE field and rapidly pops-back inside { temporarily }.
So what were seeing is new wave of much shorter jumps into reality from Dark Energy, until a gradual enoough of them stay accumulate in period of time to created a BANG! of reality near the inner DE field an the whole process of reality moving from inner surface to outer surface begins again.
Naught is lost nor created on transformed is not just a fancy saying, it is the way of nature/Universe as as systemic and structural integrity.
And always, this is not to be seen as shape of dynamic Universe @ as a torus, rather, the finite Universe @ is a myriad set of Quantum Spacetime Tori overlapping and interfering. I suppos this concept, like Penroses Conformal { See Escher micro-infinity image } Cyclic Cosmology is a little difficult to get our heads around.
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@Lemming
Im in fear of tall deteriorating tree over my propane tank and if it snaps off because hollow inside, it is within 25 ft of power line, and two pine trees and a fir tree within 20 ft of house.
At minimum would like to move propane tanks but wife will not agree. My wife has temporarily parked under this trees limbs for years and I told her bad idea, cause one limb had signs of water { edema } at its underbase where it attaches to trunk. Sure enough the large branch and another higher one each broke off on two seperate and occasions, landed exactly where she parks her car, some times.
Luckily here and car were not parked there when they fell. I emailed power co. and they came to look at it, said it was good I contacted them, and the tree might last another two years ---they have no way knowing if it is hollow inside---- and that it is not in budget to cut this year.
5 - 10 years ago or so, they ---or a contractor-- comes around with huge high reaching buzz saw to cut all tree branches within 15 ft or so of power line. I pointed out this tree , to them and asked if they cut remove it. They said yes and to mark it with paint. I did that and they never removed.
So there is another large branch that hangs over our driveway and where I or others walk in and out of for exercise, but at least this branch is not dark with water { edema } at base. There was fire not far away last week that burned 300 acres, cause so dry now.
Our main house { my wifes residence } has metal roof and hardi-planck siding { cement and cellouse }, and Im trying to keep leaves blown away 30 ft or more,, but I just had total reverse shoulder replacement and it is difficult for me to blow leaves, get my sling dirty dusty etc. And part of that is the our old shack/house i live in behind the main/newer house.
Ive seen on tree not far from my end of my driveway snap off half cause it was hollow inside. And a friend of mine not far away, told me how he and another person were out near road talking when this huge tree close them snap off, because hollow inside, and they were just lucky it fell other way from them.
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@FLRW
As anyone, encourage them to tell their story, and give minimal feedback that does not discourage their desire to tell their viewpoint, story, etc.
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@FLRW
FLRW, all women related stuff, that is not related to men for starters.
After that, any topic can attract women, how the disscussion progresses, ---whether man or woman--- is what would determine if the women stay.
Man pusher.......pushing outward
After that, any topic can attract women, how the disscussion progresses, ---whether man or woman--- is what would determine if the women stay.
Man pusher.......pushing outward
------balanced line leveler -------....mod woman and man
Woman attractor/attracter.......pulling-inward
Woman attractor/attracter.......pulling-inward
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@FLRW
From post #13
Well, remember the old images of and electron cloud, --as the atom--- and how fuzzy it was and I presume, that, to this day the latest images are still fuzzy.There is also the old saying, that, our human consciousness is Gods/Universes eyes as windows to know it self. . Or something like that.
Is our access to complex consciousness clearer ---i.e. less fuzzy--- than a jellyfish, nematode, cetacean, ape? Does our ability to understand and comprehend more aspects of Universe, make our consciousness the fairest of them all ?? mirror mirror on the wall :--)))
Brains map space and time with triangles and hexagons
..."They then let the animals run around an empty space. Occasionally, the target neuron would fire. By mapping the points on the floor where this happened, the researchers discovered that the points where the neurons fired mapped out a grid of equilateral triangles. The arrangement was so well-defined that the researchers initially suspected an equipment malfunction."...
Go to 11:30 in this vid and wathed through 13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV9MnAZLmMQ
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@zedvictor4
@FLRW
Men are pushers, women are attractors....... Bucky Fuller.
*Men* fry, women cry........unknown.....*outbursts of violence on others*
*Men* fry, women cry........unknown.....*outbursts of violence on others*
..." Using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) in a copying task, the present study examined the neural basis of sex differences in handwriting in 53 healthy adults (ages 19–28, 27 males). Compared to females, males showed increased activation in the left posterior middle frontal gyrus (Exner's area), a region thought to support the conversion between orthographic and graphomotor codes. Functional connectivity between Exner's area and the right cerebellum was greater in males than in females."...
In lab studies with series of questions, women tend to have more bilateral stimulation in both hemi-spheres
..." The study also rebuts a longstanding view that men's brains are more lateralized, meaning each hemisphere acts independently, whereas women's two hemispheres are said to be better connected and to operate more in sync with each other. Such a difference could make males more vulnerable to disability following brain injury such as stroke. Here again, the consensus of many studies shows that the difference is extremely small, accounting for even less than 1% of the range of left-right connectivity across the population. This finding does agree with large datasets that have found no gender difference in aphasia, or the loss of language, following a stroke in the left hemisphere, contrary to long belief."..
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@Sidewalker
Consciousness if just too fuzzy of a concept and the experiential datawe have to go on is even fuzzier, hell, before I've had my coffee in themorning the experience of consciousness is even more fuzzy.
Well, remember the old images of and electron cloud, --as the atom--- and how fuzzy it was and I presume, that, to this day the latest images are still fuzzy.
There is also the old saying, that, our human eyes --ergo, access to most complex consciousness-- are Gods/Universes windows to know it self. Or something like that.
Is our access to complex consciousness clearer ---i.e. less fuzzy--- than a jellyfish, nematode, cetacean, ape? Does our ability to understand and comprehend more aspects of Universe, make our consciousness the fairest of them all ?? mirror mirror on the wall :--)))
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@Critical-Tim
maybe as ive watched couple of vids of him. And read at least one of his books
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Feelings > thoughts > rational consideration of relevant info
Feelings > reactions > pause > thoughtful consideration
Feelings > 5 senses >(5) aspects of the anterior insula cortex
Feelings > reactions > pause > thoughtful consideration
Feelings > 5 senses >(5) aspects of the anterior insula cortex
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Empathy ...in >(<-->*(5)*<-->)< in
Barbarism ...out < )<-- * (5) *--->( > out
Barbarism......" Two major types of aggression, proactive and reactive, are associated with contrasting expression, eliciting factors, neural pathways, development, and function. The distinction is useful for understanding the nature and evolution of human aggression. Compared with many primates, humans have a high propensity for proactive aggression, a trait shared with chimpanzees but not bonobos. "...
https://www.google.com/search?channel=fen&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=barbarianism
https://www.google.com/search?channel=fen&client=firefox-b-1-d&q=barbarianism
Empathy..... " An international team led by researchers at Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York has for the first time shown that one area of the brain, called the anterior insular cortex, is the activity center of human empathy, whereas other areas of the brain are not."...LINK
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..."What does the anterior insular cortex control?
The anterior insula has a core role in supporting subjective feeling states. It can also regulate the introduction of feelings into cognitive and motivational processes. Understanding of mental conditions through multiple distinct dimensions of function associated with the insula may be important."..
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@zedvictor4
predication
> predator > predation > .." Prednisolone is a corticosteroid (cortisone-like medicine or steroid). It works on the immune system to help relieve swelling, redness, itching, and allergic reactions. "...
Predication Does not inherently mean about future resultants due to relvant actions or hokey pokey superstitious beliefs
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'many people as possible in a country to carry a gun.
Welcome back to the old west where men where men and wome were women.
Ii see so many wanna-be-free, wanna-be's its scary the amout of T-shirt exclaiming there being trodden upon. Some are trees driping blood. Saw another few days and cant recall what it said. I'm way too tired. Sorry
Ii see so many wanna-be-free, wanna-be's its scary the amout of T-shirt exclaiming there being trodden upon. Some are trees driping blood. Saw another few days and cant recall what it said. I'm way too tired. Sorry
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@Greyparrot
the earth appears flat from the perspective of the 4th dimension.
I agree, in so far as, most Fox viewers are are living in false-narrative fantasy land, beyond truth of our sometimes obvious reality
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@Greyparrot
Reality is Russia leaning.
Reality is a resultant of invaginations from outer and inner, ---I speculate---, ergo, is in between the two primary forces of Universe.
Inside body of myriad set of overlapping and interfering, Quantum Space-time Toru = tube-of-physical-reality
....( ) outer Gravity...inwardly coheres ( ) aka positive geodesic { cranial/skull shape }
..../\/\/\/ reality /\/\/\/\/ is resultant of invaginations{ v^v^v^ } from the outer and inner
....)( inner Dark Energy...outwardly dissipates )( aka negative geodesic { saddle shape }
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Above and below cosmology is ancient flat Earth type of thinking from more ignorant humans.
Fox news viewers --in general-- tend to be more representative of this ancient and more ignorant viewpoint, is my best guess aka ... ' burn Galileo at the stake '... type of thinking.
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@zedvictor4
Your predication sticks out like a sore thumb
.." An accurate assessment of prognosis differs from a prediction in that it requires stating a range of survival based upon relevant data. "...
Prognostication { the end is near } based on relevant data
Prediction { the end is near } based on old wives or husbands tales.
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@ponikshiy
These footprints prove mormonism right
Only if it were a man footprints { larger V V } facing forward into 10 womens { smaller v v } ex,
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vv....vv...vv...vv...vv....vv....vv....vv.
My daddy lies over the ocean,
My daddy lies over the ocean,
my mommy lies over the sea,
my daddy lies over my mommy, and,
that was the beginning of me.
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@FLRW
Maybe they were Alien footprints. How far was that Park from Roswell?
Since it was white sands area, it could have been barefoot hoboes from 1945, living in desert and were incinerated by first 1945 atomic bomb blast.
The radiation just made the dating incorrect. Or......
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..."The footprints were discovered at the edge of an ancient lakebed in White Sands National Park and date back to between 21,000 and 23,000 years ago, according to research published Thursday in the journal Science.
The estimated age of the footprints was first reported in Science in 2021, but some researchers raised concerns about the dates. Questions focused on whether seeds of aquatic plants used for the original dating may have absorbed ancient carbon from the lake — which could, in theory, throw off radiocarbon dating by thousands of years
.The new study presents two additional lines of evidence for the older date range. It uses two entirely different materials found at the site, ancient conifer pollen and quartz grains."....
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Not some one who will tell USA peoples the truth regarding the state of ecological environment that sustains all of humanity.
Not some one who tells USA peoples there are two primary options to set humanity on pathway to longer term existence on Earth. Democracy and dictator.
Not someone who is inclined to seek out scientific truths, scientific scenarios played out by algorythms that have deal with best known relevant facts/data for energy available for what operating systems, that do not burn down the house { ecological environment } to stay warm/eat.
Not some one who tells USA peoples there are two primary options to set humanity on pathway to longer term existence on Earth. Democracy and dictator.
Not someone who is inclined to seek out scientific truths, scientific scenarios played out by algorythms that have deal with best known relevant facts/data for energy available for what operating systems, that do not burn down the house { ecological environment } to stay warm/eat.
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@YouFound_Lxam
In other words, why do we care?
..." In the past decade, scientists have used powerful functional MRI imaging to identify several regions in the brain that are associated with empathy for pain. This most recent study, however, firmly establishes that the anterior insular cortexis where the feeling of empathy originates "...
Fuller talks about how the first word spoken by a human may have been out of desperation. Ex person has perhaps witnessed others die in quicksand, and then one day it happens to them, and yells out to another person walking by ...hey bud/Jack, can you pull me out with a stick?...or YIKES Im Sinking...or Please Help! etc.
Tigers lions, pack of hyenas etc are all situations where desperate times may spur desperate call out warnings of .....DANGER, Will Robinson....
So then it goes back to how did this empathy center come to exist. A mother and her cubs etc.
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@FLRW
Significantly key part >>> ..."...the administration { Clinton } and Democratic committee chairs mobilized support from corporate CEOs, including Fortune 500 executives, asking them to lobby key legislators to support the bill. Thus, with business leaders’ support and lobbying efforts, the legislation was passed with a very slight majority."..
There was tax cuts on the under-priviledged peoples --school lunches, Headstart? food-coupons etc government programs for poor--- and he was criticized by those with those concerns. If I recall correctly.
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A house has zero cats and the husband who is conservative is against having cats but the wife asks for 5 cats.
I seem to recall when Bill Clinton was in office the USA budget was balanced --whatever that means--- for the first time in many years.
..." To balance the federal budget, government revenue must meet or exceed government spending. That's happened only twice in the past half-century: President Lyndon Johnson did it in 1969, and President Bill Clinton from 1998 to 2001. ".....
Both Democrats, compromising with republicans, is my best guess.
..." What is the #1 problem of economics?
..The fundamental economic problem is the issue of scarcity and how best to produce and distribute these scare resources. Scarcity means there is a finite supply of goods and raw materials. "...
Duhh, yeah, we live on finite Earth with finite resources ---sun output and wind is finite--- and we see increasing >>> human population growth >>>. So it is not just a USA problem of economics it is an issue for humanity ergo, it is going to take some humanity wide cooperation ---instead of nation against nation--- to have least amount of suffering in future days to come.
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@Greyparrot
It's clearly getting harder for Congress to pass budget deficits lately with establishment Uniparty.
Orange Grey Parrot, I watched some of that vid What a load of false narrative. This is why most identify you with the king { Trumpet } of false narrative propaganda.
Actually their is probably others { radio talk show host who get sued } worse than Trumpet with false narrative.
You appear to most, as some one who identifies with all of these nutters over the years.
Actually their is probably others { radio talk show host who get sued } worse than Trumpet with false narrative.
You appear to most, as some one who identifies with all of these nutters over the years.
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@zedvictor4
In simple terms, numbers are the product of deliberate thought.
Thought >> direction of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i. ( * i * ) with varying degrees of complexity involved.
Zed...And.Eb....Predicting Random WillZed... Is sort of a Trinity of contradictions.
Yeah Zed, I sort of see that also.
I had been rethinking that since prime numbers are Meta-space intellect only --at least to best of our knowledge base--- they are not an occupied space, like fermionic matter and bosonic forces, or truly non-occupied space outside of Universe.
So it is incorrect of me to directly connect the Meta-space location mapping for where all primes may appear, to an actual space, occupied or truly non-occupied.
1} predicting is Meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual abstractions that, are a resultant of brain/consciousness process { time duration/Zed, see #2 and 3 below }.
2} space is occupied or truly non-occupied,[email protected]
3} time complements the occupied space { Gravity-non-qnatised, Dark Energy-non-quantised and physical reality-quantised by humans },
....3a} observed time complements the observed { quantised } time as our physical reality, and this is where the appearence { illusion } of will/intention to steer {
Yaw <--> left-right...... Pitch >> higher-lower......Roll ^v.........see link for the three axis of spin...total as 6 directions
Perhaps there is only 1.And multiples thereof.
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Fuller shows in a graphic how it takes a minimum of 12 restraints to stablize all torquing { twisting } and prevent 6 directions of motion, on those three axi. These next two graphics are not the sphere with restraints I was thinking of, yet they do express Fullers thoughts on the neccessity of no less than 6 positive and 6 negative restraints to prevent torque/twist motion. To stay true, as in keeping the bicycle wheel/rim true.
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Random is to space, as,
Will is to time?
Random is to space, as,
Will is to time?
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Random with prime numbers location is fixed, however that is an abstract space, not dynamic/changing/time.
Random is to abstract space, as,
Will is to dynamically changing time, ergo, a changing space of spactial events as the occur.
Random is to abstract space, as,
Will is to dynamically changing time, ergo, a changing space of spactial events as the occur.
Still what is possible to occur in that finite Universe space is limited by some principles ex, teh five and only five regulra/symmetrical and convex polyhedra.
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Consider this semi-abstract universal also.." A modern treatment of Planck's work begins with the speed of light c, gravitational constant G, reduced Planck constant ħ, Coulomb constant k and Boltzmann constant kB. By taking different combinations of these variables, one can find Planck units, which are truly universal. For instance, by taking √ ħG/c3 , one gets a length. This length is the Planck length, and it is 1.6 x 10-35 meters.
The beauty of the Planck units in general and the Planck length in particular is that no matter what units one chooses to make measurements, be it English, metric or Martian, everyone will determine the same Planck length. Planck himself said in his paper to the Prussian Academy of Sciences, "These necessarily retain their meaning for all times and for all civilizations, even extraterrestrial and non-human ones, and can therefore be designated as 'natural units.'"
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...RANDOM.... goes back to my original considerations of when a prime number appears, in the predetermined locations { n * 6, plus or minus 1 }. --I discovered the geometric { hexagonal } version in 90's---.
So are ' Random ' and ' Will ' { intent }, correlated? That is what my concern was, in my original post some where early in this day. My time it was AM. Now PM.
See thread title and post #1.
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If will is caused, then there is no will { free intent or limited intent }?
If will is un-caused then there is will { free intent or limited intent }?
So the prime number will appear, or not, in per-determined, limited set of locations, tho we humans cannot predict when they will appear there.
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With my exploration of prime numbers some years back, I came to the conclusion that, perhaps, the only true randomness of Universe, is where a prime number would appear, or not. 200 years ago the algebrically discovered the limited set of locations where prime numbers can fall { appear } but as to prediction when they will appear there cannot be done.
Some 20 years ago I discovered on my own the geometrical { hexagon } expression for that algebraic formula n * 6 plus or minus 1, is where all prime numbers ---except 2p and 3p--- can appear, or not.
Some 20 years ago I discovered on my own the geometrical { hexagon } expression for that algebraic formula n * 6 plus or minus 1, is where all prime numbers ---except 2p and 3p--- can appear, or not.
Less related to randomness and prime numbers, this vid about culture and genes crossed { appeared } in my pathways.
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@Lemming
Perhaps eventually we will develop a test for the arsehole gene and abort appropriately.
Zed, here gene and culture related vid.
This Standord professor of Neurology and other, tells his idea of free will or not at about 48:00. LCZ, you may have posted this in past and I missed it.
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@Greyparrot
1} OGP, why do you like Trumpet so much?OGP... I don't
EB......yet so many of your posts over last years make us think otherwise.
2} Do you see any flaws with Trumpets character { morals }?OGp..Plenty
Again, so many posts over last years make us believe otherwise. When a where has Trumpet stepped over your moral line?
3} Do you believe the 90 or so indictments charged are all or some to be valid { with merit }?Possibly a few
A few of some 93 or so. Do any stand out in your mind as a no-brainer, or as it appears obvious, even tho trial jury or judge made a decission?
4} Who is your current choice for next president of USA?Vivek or RFK
So Vivek Ramaswamy, because of his money? Kinda of like Trumpet and presumed money?
Your like Robert F Kennedy jr because he is 9/11 conspiracy believer in 9/11? Also you like his anti-vaxxer stance?
I think Glen Youngkin would appeal to GOP, libertarians democrats. His looks reminds me of Mitt Rommey.
I think Glen Youngkin would appeal to GOP, libertarians democrats. His looks reminds me of Mitt Rommey.
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@Greyparrot
1} OGP, why do you like Trumpet so much?
2} Do you see any flaws with Trumpets character { morals }?
3} Do you believe the 90 or so indictments charged are all or some to be valid { with merit }?
4} Who is your current choice for next president of USA?
2} Do you see any flaws with Trumpets character { morals }?
3} Do you believe the 90 or so indictments charged are all or some to be valid { with merit }?
4} Who is your current choice for next president of USA?
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@zedvictor4
But their sensory awareness far exceeds that of humans.
Thats called specialization. Each species have their unique specialization abilities, be one, two or three of them.
I addressed that early on. Humans are generalist and that is their specialization via their synergetically acquired, greater access to Meta-space min/intellect/concepts and ego/i. Ergo, humans, via their inventions can fly high and fast, enter deep oceans and survive at any depth for long periods of time, travel on land at high speeds, and increase their other senses also.
I addressed that early on. Humans are generalist and that is their specialization via their synergetically acquired, greater access to Meta-space min/intellect/concepts and ego/i. Ergo, humans, via their inventions can fly high and fast, enter deep oceans and survive at any depth for long periods of time, travel on land at high speeds, and increase their other senses also.
Though in both cases, consciousness as in switched on and functioning, is of equal necessity.
Yes and my list covers all the varying degrees of most simple { graviton-darkEon 10^ -36 meters in post #9 ) concepts of consciousness to most complex { woman X x > man X y } consciousness.
I left few, to no stones uncovered --so to speak--- regarding degrees of consciousness and how it is defined specifically { two-ness } in those regards from most simple set of line-of-relationship - to the most complex, woman. Barring of course ideas of two or more woman or man and woman etc.
Obviously finite Universe is most complex set of lines-of-relationship numerically, tho there is no evidence that Universe has an overall consciousness integrity.
O-----O = most simple consciousness { linear line-of-relationship }.
Or as (O)( )(O) wherein the line-of-relationship between twoness, is geodesic ( ) and not linear ---------.
Woman ( * i * ) most complex consciousness. Man ( * i * ) 2nd in complexity
I left few, to no stones uncovered --so to speak--- regarding degrees of consciousness and how it is defined specifically { two-ness } in those regards from most simple set of line-of-relationship - to the most complex, woman. Barring of course ideas of two or more woman or man and woman etc.
Obviously finite Universe is most complex set of lines-of-relationship numerically, tho there is no evidence that Universe has an overall consciousness integrity.
O-----O = most simple consciousness { linear line-of-relationship }.
Or as (O)( )(O) wherein the line-of-relationship between twoness, is geodesic ( ) and not linear ---------.
Woman ( * i * ) most complex consciousness. Man ( * i * ) 2nd in complexity
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@FLRW
Yeah aquring knoweldge takes time, even with AI quatum computers, is a level of understanding.
A more wholisticall considerate omprehension of the knowledge is more a human quality. To see the proper place{s} for its application in consideration of self, humanity and ecological systems that support us all.
AI { fast assimilation borg }, plus,
A more wholisticall considerate omprehension of the knowledge is more a human quality. To see the proper place{s} for its application in consideration of self, humanity and ecological systems that support us all.
AI { fast assimilation borg }, plus,
> Quantum Computing { QC fast processing } + slow and consider Plus,
>>Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego/i humans, that insures the relevant data is fed into the AI and QC and chooses the proper aliplication of data recieved.
A Cosmic Divinity on Earth
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@zedvictor4
Isn't knowing stuff and remembering it, just a consequence of consciousness and awareness?
Yes, however access great access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i is beyond what most animals do. So I give humans two plus signs outside of the unitary + 360 +.
Later on you can see that I gave some cetaceans one plus sign outside of }* 260 -{
Access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts is ability to generalize our discoveries to many fields of science, and that is what humans do.
All other animals are more specialized to varying degrees.
} + 360 + { >>>
> } + 260 - { some cetaceans >>>>
Later on you can see that I gave some cetaceans one plus sign outside of }* 260 -{
Access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts is ability to generalize our discoveries to many fields of science, and that is what humans do.
All other animals are more specialized to varying degrees.
} + 360 + { >>>
> } + 260 - { some cetaceans >>>>
>> } - 260 - { ....for next in less complexity " top ten '... then >>>> } - 200 - { rrodents etc
....} did not list any } - 100 - { range but of curse they exist also. I thought I had various worms in the catagory but misplace that info
>>>>} - 55 - { jellyfish >>>>
>>>>>>} -20 - { sponges >>>
>>>>>>>>} - 5 - { other biologic kingdoms
>>>>} - 55 - { jellyfish >>>>
>>>>>>} -20 - { sponges >>>
>>>>>>>>} - 5 - { other biologic kingdoms
>>>>>>>>.=} 1- { viruses have not lipid membrane, rather, they aprotein shell and they only have RNA or DNA, never both.
..." Virus capsids predominantlycome in two shapes: helical and icosahedral. '....
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2} } 0.5 {..." Variousorganic molecules have previously been discovered in interstellarspace, but i-propyl cyanide is the first with a branched carbonbackbone.
The branched structure is important asit shows that interstellar space could be the origin of more complexbranched molecules, such as amino acids, that are necessary for lifeon Earth."....
.......2a } 0 . 001 { atomic elements } ex the simplest ishydrogen atom { 0.000, 01 meters approx } i.e. one proton, oneelectron and the EMField exchange between those two
1 } 0 .000 000 000 000 001 { andin spatial size of proton in negative meters. proton { 3 quarks },mesons are 2 quarks, electrons, neutrinos ergo fermionicmatter, and we also
photon { bosonic force }, strongsub-nuclear force of gluons binds two or three quarks together and these gluonic bosons are inferred indirectly to exist.
....1a} non-quantised and an question-able that they have anassociated quanta
...ex graviton at 10^ -36 0 . 000, 000, 000,000, 000, { proton } 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 001 {graviton-darkEon }
So now were at bottom of occupied spacebarrel of two graviton-darkEons { two sides of the same minimal spacecoin { proverbial }.
Then we have to ask ourselves if theyare composed of an occupied space something. My answer is aspeculative yes. However, the answer is more complicated than othersmay want to read about. So for simplicity sake I will just say this.We have reached the minimal 3D two-ness. O----O that hassome kind of a line of relationship that connects them. that is whyit is called a relationship.
In past Ive shown theserelationship to be geodesic and not linear as (O)( )( )(O).
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@Critical-Tim
There exist degrees of consciousness.
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5 } -55- { .."Are jellyfish conscious? Jellyfish have no brains and therefore are not aware of their own existence. So no,while alive they are not “conscious”....0
Jellyfishes are more complex than a sponge because:
- Because jellyfish have complex tissue, a gut, and a nervous system, they are more complex than sponges.
- It splits apart and then reunites to form a young.
- The medusa and the polyp are the two forms they can take.
- Jellyfishes have a highly complicated life cycle.
- Most of a jellyfish's existence is spent as a medusa.
} -20- { Sponges...." Yes, sea sponges are considered animals not plants. But they grow, reproduceand survive much as plants do. They have no central nervous system, digestive system or circulatory system – and no organs!"...
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4 } -5- {The other kingdoms have RNA-DNA cells. Fungi { closet genetic relation to animals } then we have protist { algea protozoa } and monera { bacteria }.
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