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Monkeys on stage doing ......' Athiest's Don't Have No Songs '... ' and watch football in their underpants '....

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Part Six: sorry some repeat here from earlier today. This should do it for my revisioning Pi-Time.

Transcendental is not the same as an infinite irrational number. Others can research what exactly the differrernce is. My concern is not that, or at least not to my knowledge, and that is why above, I tack on the >..etc.. continuation to many of the Pi-associated derivatives.

If others have thoughts on what exactly my re-normalization process may be mean exactly/specifically, please share.

Getting back to Lorentz contraction-dialation considerations, beyond the 66.4 > 42 or 42.4 depending, I would go further on this fanciful exploration, to see what may come of it. 42 – another 24 gives us 18 and 18 is interesting because we know there is 18 combinations of quark in Universe and and 18 combinations of anti-quark in Universe.

Ok since were on a subtraction { contraction } pathway via 24, for third time, we take 18 minus 24 = negative 6 { -6.0 }. Since so much of my mathematical inheritance associates with Fullers Synergetics, I take note here, the Fuller statement, ---and a I paraphrase---, the difference between Universe being in equilibrium equanimity and tainted ---i.e.. off center-- is always one positive or negative tetrahedron and a tetrahedron is composed of 6 chords/lines-of-relationship/edges.

So with the above mentioned -6.0 we find a association perhaps to the six chords/edges of the minimal polyhedron of Universe, as a negative tetrahedron. A possible option for consideration and as Lorentz contraction or dilation, at its minimum, via only the leaps of contractions as the abstract value, 24.

So again, 97.40 90 91 03 4 00 24 3 7 minus the the P^3 { ergo 3D } 31.00 = 66.4

Then we begin the subtraction/contraction of with the re-normalized 24.4 and here how we got to 24.4.

..so then we take the Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7p 27 58500 ergo rounded to 24.4 ---via my re-normalization process-- and subtract it from 66.4.....

66.4 > 42 --what follows below is new process, because I dont round off the 24.4 i.e. I subtract/contract via the 24.4 value

42 minus 24.4 = 17.6 { rounds to 18 } 18 quarks and an 18 combinations of anti-quark in Universe

17.6 minus 24.4 = -6.8 and that rounds to -7

-6.8 { or as -7 ? } minus 24.4 = -31.2 { rounds to 31 } and here that 31 { recall Pi^3 } appears again, hmmm....

-31.2 minus 24.4 = -55.6 { rounds to -56 } ---Fiibonnaci 55 { not relevant significance ? }

-56.6 minus 24.4 = -80 and that is the first whole rational number in this relatively accurate mathematical assessment of the 24.4 subtraction/contraction via Pi-related and re-normalised and alledged as, a Lorentz transformation process, in quantum leaps of 24.4 dilation or contraction of space-time or space and time.

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I think I'm in that interim life phase, in between internal paternal aspirancy and rapid physical decline.

1} those who take anxiety medicines and those who dont. I take the minimal Lorazepam for maybe a year 5 years now, tho only at night and not a regular basis,

2} I bought a bike maybe 20 years ago. Then not long after, I road from my home to local store, however, since had been making this walk to that store for years, I came and walked home. Day later I remmbered the bike, went back and it was of course long gone.

3} never been a biologic father, only step-dad. My wifes son was a 12 when we got married. He now lives next door and is financial secure and on occasion helps me out with a a purchase of this or that. He bought an inversion table table in hopes of fixing my sciatic issues. He went halves with me for $300. gas powered Westinghouse electric power generator, when I was living in the RV during pandemic.

And last year my truck needed $300. repair he paid half, cause he sometimes needs me to haul stuff away for him. A friend when first meeting my step-son a few years back, later said to me, he loves you. That was nice to hear.

4} those of us who are not in denial of sick-n-head indivdiuals like Trumpet, those who are in denial of obvious truths Trmupet and his cronies are crimminals.

5} those of who would like to live in Wale and those of us who would not. ;--)

..." Pros

It’s cheaper to live and work in Wales, with a much lower average cost of living compared to England.
26% of Wales is classed as a National Park or Area of Outstanding Beauty so you will have plenty to see and do right on your doorstep!
There are over 150 beaches in Wales and miles of stunning coastline which is home to some extraordinary wildlife.

Cons

Less ‘conveniences’ of city life means that you may have to walk a little further to your local shop - but more exercise is not exactly a disadvantage!
You may have a hard time pronouncing some of their incredibly long town names which could be cause for some embarrassment!
Sheep outnumber people 3:1, which is good if you love sheep, but bad if you like to enjoy a socially active life more common in big cities. "....

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Hey FLRW, this thread seems to be making twanging sound again. Perhaps we need to file a technicality report with maintenance crew.

Is Trumpism and its cultist hiccuping attack a response to obivous truths in Georgia, Florida, NY and DC?

.." DISTINCT TWANG Distinct Twang could be likened to a distinctly narrow funnel; this will make the sound very sharp and piercing. "...

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AI = least complex electronic bit formation goes ' beep and turn left in 30 feet '.

AGI = most complex electronic bit formation says ' I love you Tommy because my heart is on fire for third time this month of menopause '.

Human electrical bit = access to most complex set of generalized concepts

(0)--(1)(---------)(111)(0000)--()()()(-----)(X)()()()(Y)()()(000000)(Z)(0000000)(--)00000000)(1)(Z) etc as more complex set where those in bold are revelations as in Archimede's alledged shouted word when discovering ' displacement ', via his getting in the bathtub and water begin pushed-out...' Eureka! ' with emotional vibrations. Was Archimedes hacked?

..." Hackers and security experts at Def Con, the world's largest convention for cybersecurity, have shown that it is very easy to 'hack' AI bots like ChatGPT and Bard, and get to say practically anything. They also demonstrated, it can be done by just using prompts "..

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I cant find it, however, I remmeber a clip of Colbert's where is repeating Trumpets claim --aimed at hillary on stage--- about cyber attacker could be 400 lb Chinese on his bed somewhere. So Colbert has this animation of Trumpet as the 400lb mobstser on a bed.

Here is the original of Trumpet and Hillary that Colbert had such fun with, an so on point as to who the real mobster is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSTGxKKmlXA

A racketeering mobster is what Trumpet is about, along with his cronies, and I hope to God, they all go to prison. As some one else pointed out, since this is state crime, Trumpet the racketeering mobster every get into the presidency again, he cannot pardon the criminals involved, this includes himself.

USA has became a sad joke when Trumpet became president and then 60 million votes the 2nd time around.

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..." Donald Trump was indicted Monday on charges of racketeering and a string of election crimes after a sprawling, two-year probe into his efforts to overturn his 2020 defeat to Joe Biden in the US state of Georgia.

....The case -- relying on laws typically used to bring down mobsters -- is the fourth targeting the 77-year-old Republican this year and could lead to a watershed moment, the first televised trial of a former president in US history.

....Prosecutors in Atlanta charged Trump with 13 felony counts -- compounding the legal threats he is facing in multiple jurisdictions as a firestorm of investigations imperils his bid for a second White House term. "...

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/trump-indicted-racketeering-over-2020-025841137.html

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Fiddle de do..fiddle de dum...can we fiddle while we chew gum ...yes!

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AI electronic bits >>> 0101010101 ergo least complex set

AGI electronig bits >>> 00011011111100011000000001111000100000111111100010100010010010100101000000011111 etc as more complex set

Human electrical bits >>> (0)--(1)(---------)(111)(0000)--()()()(-----)(X)()()()(Y)()()(000000)(Z)(0000000)(--)00000000)(1)(Z) etc as more complex set where those in bold are revelations as in Archimede's alledged shouted word when discovering ' displacement ', via his getting in the bathtub and water begin pushed-out...' Eureka! '

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Do you dance like me or Ebuc?

Trance dancing......boogey woogey....

twist and shout...shake it up baby.....

jitter-bug.....the hop......the mashed potatoe...,,

the monkey....the charleston......the waltz.....

Each and all share a commonalityof the individual finding itself ---ergo, not a division of biologic/soul consciousness and/or Meta-space mind from the others--- in, or approaching, cosmic-like bliss, that is tuned-into, and part of the musical rhythm, as body-in-motion. Free and beyond anxiety of the day's compounded tension, in need of release.

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Part Five: Re-normalization means what specifically?

So some of you --and myself--- still ask why the re-normalization process. Pi^3 is 3D { volumetric } resultant, even tho still transcendentally associated to transcendental Pi. And via Eisenstein we learned that the three dimensions of space and inherent related to so called 4th dimension { non-spatial } of time.

So when I furthered my Pi powerings by dividing each by its powering number, at Pi^4 / 4 resultant of 24.35 22 7p 27 58500 made my mind go WOW!, and more so because 7p falls in 7th position with the Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7p 66 etc...

So the question remains, what does my re-normalization process of dividing by the powering number, when doing Pi^4? Does it mean were isolating out space from the 4th-D as time, from the Pi^4 value 97.40 90 91 03 40 02 43 7p 2 36 44 03 32 68 87 05 >..etc...

I.e. is the above value only spatial ergo, to arrive at only a time consideration, we have two options: 1} I did by taking the Pi^3 { 31 } value from Pi^4 value 97. etc, --and that remainder is my Cosmic Absolute Time 66.4---.

So is the re-normalization process a way of arriving at some kind of relative time, --24.4 more or less dilation-- in regards to Cosmic Absolute Time, instead of the reultant 97.40 as an absolute time value of via Pi^4 ?

Here I must point out for some readers, that it was physicists like Richard P Feynman and others, who kept getting these infinity numbers in regards to their physics, and that was not acceptable for their resolutions of quantum this or that, ergo, they had to re-normalize the infinite values to a finite irrational number, o come to finite resolutions.

Transcendental is not the same as an infinite irrational number. Others can research what exactly the differrernce is. My concern is not that, or at least not to my knowledge, and that is why above, I tack on the >..etc.. continuation to many of the Pi-associated derivatives.

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.."I think I'm sophisticated 'cause I'm living my life

Like a good homo sapiens

But all around me everybody's multiplying and

They're walking round like flies man

So I'm no better than the animals sitting

In the cages in the zoo man

'Cause compared to the flowers and the birds and the trees

I am an apeman

I think I'm so educated and I'm so civilized

'Cause I'm a strict vegetarian

But with the over-population and inflation and starvation

And the crazy politicians

I don't feel safe in this world no more

I don't want to die in a nuclear war

I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an apeman...

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman

I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman

'Cause compared to the sun that sits in the sky

Compared to the clouds as they roll by

Compared to the bugs and the spiders and flies I am an apeman

In man's evolution he's created the city

And the motor traffic rumble

But give me half a chance and I'd be taking off my clothes

And living in the jungle

'Cause the only time that I feel at ease

Is swinging up and down in the coconut trees

Oh what a life of luxury to be like an apeman...

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman

I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman

I look out the window but I can't see the sky

The air pollution is a-fogging eyes

I want to get out of this city alive and make like an apeman

Oh come on and love me, be my apeman girl

And we'll be so happy in my apeman world..

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman

I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman

I'll be your Tarzan, you'll be my Jane

I'll keep you warm and you'll keep me sane

We'll sit in the trees and eat bananas all day, just like an apeman

I'm an apeman, I'm an ape, apeman, oh I'm an apeman

I'm a King Kong man, I'm a voodoo man, oh I'm an apeman...

I don't feel safe in this world no more

I don't want to die in a nuclear war

I want to sail away to a distant shore and make like an apeman"

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Ice it Ice it baby...ha ha....Vanilla baby ha ha..Ice it Ice it baby....ha ha

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Part Four: Lorenz contraction or expansion of space-time, in relation the above spatial Pi ratio, and its powered derivatives

..5a} first off, I need to explain how I arrived a the value 66.4 as Cosmic Absolute Pi-Time.

......take Pi^4 value 97.40 90 91 03 40 024 minus my above prior Pi^31.00.62 7p 66.... = 66.4 { Cosmic Absolute Pi-Time }

...so then we take the Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7p 27 58500 ergo rounded to 24.4 ---via my re-normalization process-- and subtract it from 66.4, for the resultant 42.05 > etc.....

...so yes, it was just a fluke of coincidence that my re-normalization process and the rounded value to 24.4 and was perfect to operate as a Lorentz contraction { <<<< less than <<< = contraction } --or diation in othe diection--- to arrive at sci-fi movie 42, answer to everything. Some of you may not be perked mentally by that, as am I, because your are most likely not familiar with Bucky Fullers equanimity value 24, as found in his math book{s} Synergetics 1 and 2, wherein,

he states that, the Vector Equlibrium { VE } is closet we will ever coming to knowing God ---I read this as Universe---, and, we see this equanimity as the value 24 via the construction of the Vector Equibrium from four hexagonal circles or polygons, that, when infolded and connected, defines 24 circumferential chords of the VE and,

24 radii of the VE.

URL link is coming below, however, also take note, in regards to the VE being constructed from circles, that, it was Archimede's who first discovered that, the surface area of the four circle planes, is exactly equal to the outer surface area of the spherical VE being defined ergo equanimity of area on inside body of VE to that of the outer surface of the polyhderal body. See B is the graphic http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f5511.html

Two more parts coming.

That all said, to be clear, I'm stating that space-time dilation only occurs at discrete jumps, as previous and following parts infer or imply. I.e. 66.4 > 42 > 18 > 0.06 is a generalization based on the Pi based maths, and the 24 only arises out above mentioned re-normalization process of dividing the Pi^4 value, by 4. It is just a mathematical curiosity, that, co-incdentally similar to some of Fullers VE concepts.

Or is it truly a very-far-reaching --i.e. most abstract--- generalized cosmic connection Ive found to quantum physics regarding Lorentz's space-time dilation?

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Hey FLRW, I'm still hearing the metal twanging sound. Is it tail of a metal dog wagging?

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Reported

Thanks for reporting that godawful repeating twang sound in this thread. Im surprised that twang sound was not played on loud speakers at Jan 6 insurrection/riot/rebellion etc ---or maybe there was--- i.e. attacks on capital as acts of terrorism etc.

1} .." British troops in 1814 burned federal buildings in Washington, D.C.—including the White House and the Capitol. ..

2} ...In 1856, pro-slavery Representative Preston Brooks beat anti-slavery Senator Charles Sumner nearly unconscious with a cane on the Senate floor....

3} ....On July 2, 1915, a former German professor at Harvard, Erich Muenter, planted a package containing three sticks of dynamite in the Capitol near the Senate Reception room. The explosive detonated around midnight and during a time when the Senate had been on recess. An on-duty Capitol Police officer was nearly knocked out of his chair during the blast, but fortunately no one was injured....

4} ...On March 1, 1954, four Puerto Rican Americans fired guns in the House of Representatives, injuring five congressmen. The attackers said they acted to demand independence for the U.S. territory of Puerto Rico. (Puerto Ricans have U.S. citizenship but can’t vote for president and have no voting representatives in Congress.) The injured congressmen survived, and the four shooters received prison sentences. President Jimmy Carter commuted one of their sentences in 1977, and granted clemency to the other three in 1979....

5} ...On March 1, 1971, a bomb exploded in the Capitol building. While the explosion did not injure anyone, it caused some $300,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Weather Underground claimed to be behind the bombing and said it was in protest of the ongoing U.S.-supported bombing of Laos. ''''

6} ....Thirteen years later, on November 7, 1983, a bomb tore through the second floor of the Senate wing of the Capitol. The device detonated late in the evening and no one was harmed, but it caused an estimated $250,000 in damage. A group calling itself the Armed Resistance Unit later claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was in retaliation for military actions in Grenada and Lebanon. Seven people were eventually arrested in connection with the attack.

7} ...On January 6, 2021, when representatives met to formalize the presidential election results, a mob of rioters supporting President Donald Trump and seeking to deny President-Elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory pushed through police barricades and stormed the Capitol, some smashing windows to enter its halls. A protester who was shot by police died in the chaos, and more than 100 law enforcement officers were injured, according to a March 7, 2022 report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office. "...

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8/12/2023---- Part Three: XYZ plus time or time as 4th spatial dimension?

4} Pi^4 { XYZ + time? or as a 4th spatial dimension? } = 97.40 90 91 02 28 65 82 12 53 7p 4 63 >…

...Pi^4 / 3 = 32.46 96 9 7p 01 13 34 14 57 45 480110896235 >........

..97 / 3 = 32.3333333.....etc.....

……7p occurs overall, on the 21st position so I take note of that because 3 * 7 = 21 ….

….97.40 9090 96 divided by 7p = 13.91 55 84 43 18….28 57 14 28 57 and that 13.9 is close to 14 ergo, 7p * 2 = 14….

.....the overall 5th and 6th integers are 55, and that is the 10th or 11th set of integers in Fibonnaci number set......just passing note I keep track of...

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You are not talking about inteligence you are talking about nothing more then a process of filing over others human methods.

And that electronic bits filing method is called AI, incorporated by algorythms. Your way behind the times here. Before electronic filing there was electric induced filing of paper cards, or other mechanical apparratus with clicks or holes etc.

AGI is more advanced algorythm's to approximate more closely what humans are best known for, their Meta-space access to generalised concepts as mind/intelligence and an ego/i .....( * i * )......

AGI, will never attain access to Meta-space mind/intelligence/concepts and ego/i.

Roger Penrose list four things ---in book Emperors New Mind--- that, AI algorythms will never do, that humans do.

1} appreciation of art,

2} finding truth,

3} ?

4} ?

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People do act without contiousness it is not unheard of.

What acts do people in a coma commit? I dont consider people in a coma conscious, tho, they have whatever degree of lesser complex consciousness occurring. There bodies still function to whatever degree. The bacteria in gut live on, til death, then other kind of bacterial take over, or so I presume.

Again, the simplest consciousness is two-ness, other-ness and varying degrees of awareness. How much awareness exists between to masses with gravitational attrraction?

How much awareness is there between two seperate entities who electro-magnetic fields are over-lapping?

Again, with the two latter above it is the degrees to which their is a field of over-lap between them, that may increase if their getting closer, or decrease if getting further apart. Yet never no relationship, only lesser or more degrees of awareness, via their interrelationships as a two-ness/other-ness.

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Rich vs Poor is ages old tune. The gap the differentiates has continually grown larger over the years. Old news

The twang sound is not to my liking. Unless it comes with a more dance-able beat and rhythm of that lifts the soul off the ground, towards cosmic heaven.

Trumpet and others committed insurrection against USA. There are people in denial of these obvious truths. Their souls mission was to jab, destroy, beat into the ground.

There are various labels ---some more descripitive than others--- that can be attached to those who deny truth and fact who commit such acts, without logical, common sense critical thinking.

Insurrectionist supporters. Insurrectionist deniers. Insurrectionist cultist. Insurrectionist __?____. Rebels without a cause was 50's theme played by actor James Dean, if I recall correctly.

Is there a twang sound that speaks against Jan 6th insurrection, via the rebels without any shred of logical, common sense critical thinking?

Please share if you find any.

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@Vegasgiants

Instead, we have corruption and incompetence.

Likely this 14th amendent concern will go before SCOTUS? I think so.

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3} Pi^3 {XYZ is 3D } = 31.00 62 7p 66 77 64 11 48 95 09 95 39 11 80375…..

....Pi^3 / 3 = 10.33 54 25 56 00 99 94 00 58 49 21 05 02 23 67. >...etc and I take note of the fact that prime 7p occurs at overall 32 place.....

..initial 3 has become 31 i.e. 3 * 10, plus 1, and then follow by two zero's { .00 } on the irrational side....

....and here are few other notes of interest, .33 is of interest in the divided resultant 10.33, as is 25 and 56 and zero and digits of 5, or divisible by 5, and event the 99 that is just shy of being 100.......more about that in Synergetics if I find the time...

…7 occurs in overall 7th position...62 is twice 31, however, having the .00 seemingly minimizes relevance to all that follows including 62 7p 66…, yet it is curious to me, irrespective of the less relevance, does inherently mean no relevance in cosmic scales of what exists....

...note here, that, the repetition of prime number 31 goes is unique in that it carries out the number 3 to 7 places 33 33 33 1 is 6 + 1 places ergo 7 places each of these iterations is itself a prime number.

Ex 31p > 331p > 3,331p > 33,331p > 333,331p > 3,333,331p totals 7 digits/integers in the final set of 3,333,331 and that is six interations of the original 31......

....and here I have to announce my obvious interest in prime number 7p for those who have not already noticed my interest there. I will say more about the prime number 7p interest below.....

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For those Bucky Fuller afficinadoes, ---none here I know of--- I post the last ---of six revised parts--- with the concluding part first, in my revisiting of my Cosmic Absolute Pi-Time { 66.4 } explorations and regarding Lorentz transformations { contraction- dilation } of space and time, and in conjunction with the ...' answer to everything '..., --via hitchhikers Guide to Everything--- number 42.

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Getting back to Lorentz contraction-dialation considerations, beyond the 66.4 > 42 or 42.4 depending, I would go further on this fanciful exploration, to see what may come of it. 42 minus another 24 gives us 18 and 18 is interesting because we know there is 18 combinations of quark in Universe, and, 18 combinations of anti-quark in Universe.

Ok since were on a subtraction { contraction } pathway via 24, for third time, we take 18 minus 24 = negative 6 { -6.0 }. Since so much of my mathematical inheritance associates with Fullers Synergetics, I take note here, the Fuller statement, ---and a I paraphrase---, the difference between Universe being in equilibrium equanimity and tainted ---I.e. off center-- is always one positive or negative tetrahedron.

So with the above mentioned -6.0 we find a association perhaps to the six chords/edges of the minimal polyhedron of Universe, as a negative tetrahedron. A possible option for consideration and as Lorentz contraction or dilation, at its minimum, via only the leaps of 24 contractions, from 66.4 > 42 { or 42.4 } > 18 { or 18.4 } > -6.0

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Part One: Transcendental, Pi-Time absolute { 66.4 } and time dilation{ Lorentz contraction } Revised 8/12/2023

...Thinking about my truncated Pi explorations might be related to time dilation ---ergo length contraction-- I tried something new and it led to 42. ---aka 42 is answer to everything in sci-fi movie, Hitchhikers Guide to Universe----

..1} 66.40 28 14 34 52.....ia .Absolute { cosmic } Pi-Time value ...more on how that is arrived further below...

..2} 24.35 22 7p 27 55 7p….this is my re-normalization value of Pi^4{ i.e. XYZ + time } / 4 = 24.35 etc

...3} 42.05 05 41 58 95..... subtraction resultant of 66.4 minus 24.4 = 42.0…is 42 the answer to everything from sci-fi movie and more on the math further below....

Let it be known, that this math based exploration of Pi and some off its derivatives, is out there on far edges of being removed from any obvious cosmic connections to space { quantised and not }, and time { as our observed --quantised-- reality }. That said, the math does begin with space, via geometry associations of pure circle and pure Pi ratio of circumference to diameter { two radii }.

1} Pi = 3. 14 15 92 65 35 89 7p 93 23 84 62 64 33 83 2 7p 95.....

..... initial rational, prime 3p is triangular and in some sciences { surveying/GPS } used to get a fix/location on something...

…7p occurs in overall 14th place/position and 7p is half of first irrational of dual set 14…..,

2} Pi^2{ 2D } = 9.86 96 04 40 05 25 17p 10 62 25.....

...the beginning is rational 9 and that is 3 times the initial 3 in Pi above.....

…7p occurs on overall 15th position { 3 * 5 = 15 } i.e. 3 may appear to be involved with the 7p….

...86 / 2 = 43 and that is 42 plus 1, for future reference.....more on that below...the extra one is a thing nature does here and there...

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Oh, and we are both big fans of Ernest Borgnine.

Thats were you and wife differ from my wife, ---not me--- and yes, I know the comments he semi-whispered out loud to the host commentator.

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I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Hey OGP, your on a roll.

As of my last update in September 2021, no one had been formally charged with the specific crime of "insurrection" in relation to the events of January 6, 2021. While many individuals were charged with various offenses related to their actions during the storming of the U.S. Capitol, the use of the term "insurrection" might be a matter of legal interpretation and propaganda strategy.

Ok, so what part of your above relates or not, to post #1 in this thread?

."...The provision they studied is Section Three of the 14th Amendment, which states that any person who took an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof,” is prohibited from holding any government office.

Was and is Trumpet engaged in insurraction or rebellion?

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5} relative truth, >|< absolute truth and <<<|>>>> false narrative.

3} the other great mental divide is between,

man X y { * Y * }...open angles triangular set ergo externalised male symbolism, and,

woman X x.....{ /**\ } closed angles of triangle ergo internalised female symbolism.

2} those who dance and those who dont,

1} those who like music and those who dont,

0} austistic and schizoid.

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@zedvictor4

I dance like a Dad at a wedding..........Absolutely no movement to rhythm coordination.

2} the other great mental divide, those who dance and those who dont, is more common than those who dont like music.

I was inhibited ---maybe normal-- as child, and slowly came to blossom over time, with dance. I loved to sing, and would bring home singing book from school sister and I could sing while doing washing the dinner disses together, yet there is place I never could get beyond inhibition to pursue it publically.

Parents were moderate - low functioning --tho working and holding a job--- alchoholics. They certainly enjoyed music and loved to dance.{ the jjitterbug }. As children, there was a place dowtown the called Silver Leaf club on 2nd floor and required an insertable card ---probably kept 3 slot machines in locked backroom--- to get in through door.

That was a time my parents looked happy to be together with each other.

Bands would come to play sometimes and there was always the jute-box record 45's to select. The big dance craze that brought teens and some of us children onto the dance floor, was the twist and do the twist, ...." c'mon baby and do the twist "...Chubby Checkers....

3} the other great mental divide is between man X y { *Y* }...open angles triangle ergo externalised male symbolism, and woman X x.....{ /**\ closed angles triangle internalised female symbolism}

So that four mental divides ive listed.

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14th amendment bans Trumpet from running or holding office.

.."...The provision they studied is Section Three of the 14th Amendment, which states that any person who took an oath to support the U.S. Constitution and then “engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof,” is prohibited from holding any government office.

.....The ban can be lifted only by a two-thirds vote by each House of Congress, according to the provision.

The 14th Amendment was adopted in 1868, in the wake of the Civil War, and is most noteworthy for extending civil and legal rights to formerly enslaved people."...

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@zedvictor4

Though, I'm just interested to know how old you and Mrs Ebuc are

Ive given many clues over the years here and former DART. I am child of 60's. First favorite band was the Ventures, then Moody Blues.

After that, never really had a favorite band. The Clash, The Police and The Talking Heads were certainly contender, tho I never bought any of their music.

Bob Marley, Pearl Harbor and the Explosions, Jimmy Cliff etc were so many good bands and music, and I loved them all. Also the The Specials, and UB-40.

British Ska was a big favorite genre for me. however, world beat music is great to dance too. Wow! Been I while since I danced a good long grove with any music.

The great mental divide is those who like music and those who dont. :--))

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Why is that first there are people who operate without consciousness the behavior is a form of mentally illness not artificial intelligent.

1} Not sure how your above relates to comment you quote/replied too,

2} not sure what "people who operate without consciousness " means exactly. Ex the only thing that comes to mind, is that your talking about people in a coma.

....2a} yes heart and lungs and brain to some degree are operative, and,

.....2b} same goes for mentally ill, the degree of consciouness is so limited and may vary much with each individual,

......2c} AI and AGI will operate at degrees of eletronic consciousness, that, those above will not, perhaps vice versa, depending on each individuals degree of access to biologic life consciouness and Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.

Lets be clear, the facts of being a biologic human in no way that, that humans brain abilites out perform AI or AGI, for the most part. The exception is there, in regards to the humans access to generalized concepts and integrating them into a relevancy to immediate local consideration and needs, and great wholisitic set of considerations and needs.

The first defining principle may be is A.I. used as a verb ornoun?

A.I used as a verb. Fuller wrote a whole book entitled, " I seem to be a Verb".

..." A noun is the name of something - a person, place, thing, or idea. Building, window, and garden are three examples.

A verb is a word that expresses an action or state of being. Common verbs include like, want, be, or think"...

AI and AGI are actions, --ergo verbs--- and states of consideration via its electronic bits as instructed by the human produced algorythm.

AI is more specialized and far out performs humans.

AGI approaches human brain capabilities of Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i. Yet AGI will never ever be the same and my guess, is never outperform humans with their Meta-space generalization capabilities. Time will tell, if humans on Earth do not kill themselves off first.

Will AGI ever consider its algorythimic and eletronic bit death, the way humans do? I dont think so. It will always be and approximation of the human abilities.

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What does WOKE mean?

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@IlDiavolo

...."egalitarian society",...

Four Musketeers { woke? }....'all for one and one for all'...... Family is about all for one and one for all, it its best ideal. We a a family of humans on a finite planet with finite resources, and rising population that only wants more, at any cost to the ecological environment that sustains them. Divide and conquer { self annilhation } unify and survive { Great Britain in 40's }

In the movie Trumbo { Alan Cranston actor } his whole family were part of the business of his making money to support family after McCarthy blacklisted him.

..."However, it may well have been Kirk Douglas' intervention during his work on the same year's Spartacus which played the greatest part in destroying the blacklist. Douglas was also executive producer on the project, and he insisted to Universal pictures that Trumbo be named as screenwriter of Stanley Kubrick's Roman epic.

..."And then there was director Otto Preminger's public announcement in January 1960 that prominent member of the Hollywood 10 Dalton Trumbo, who had been working under pseudonyms for the past 16 years, was the screenwriter of his film Exodus.

.."Alfred Hitchcock also helped rock the foundations of a way of thinking which held sway in Tinseltown for more than a decade when he hired blacklisted actor Norman Lloyd as an associate producer for the TV series Alfred Hitchcock Presents, in 1957.

..." More than one man broke the Hollywood anti-communist blacklist. John Henry Faulk may well have started the ball rolling in 1957 after he sued a company called AWARE, one of the many private organisations making a fast buck at the time by publicising the names of supposed left wing sympathisers in the US film industry.

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OCD good then?

Yeah to some degree. My wife OCD about clean house and always moving my stuff, then I have to ask her where she moved my stuff too.

With pandemic I moved out of house and into RV, so as she did not get COVID should I contract it at work. So 2 years later I'm ready to move back in and she says no, cause she is getting to old to be cleaning after me.

So I'm in old house/shack and true, I'm bit of a slob. Just found bunch of stuff on top fridge. Missing sun glasses.

My OCD austistc friend at work, made a joke. What do you call a dinosaur with hemorrhoids?

A mega-saur-ass

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The entire history of society is competition - Will competition destroy humans?

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But that's just me being a softie

Softie is ok. Just so you dont go soft in the head on us. Ha :--), same goes for me

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A common divide for humans with a fridge, is putting stuff on top of the fridge, then forgetting for 6 months or more, that stuff you may need, is on top of fridge.

There may be 1 billion of these common mental divides with human{s} brain. Or, they where put there because, there not needed much.

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Competition is overthink inspired stupidity.

I dont think so Zed. Competition in of itself is a challenge to think ergo, to be creative, consider options etc.

R. P Feynman ---Feynman diagrams--- was known for his taking on various challenges and physics and looking for simplicity to understand. This worked for him various differrent things over the years where others were having difficulty understanding the physics/chemistry underlying mechanism, and Feynman came along becaused asked or cause he got interested.

Leonard Susskind was friends with Feynman in later years, had a few examples of Feynman finding the simplicity in a utube. Watch if you have time.

The one I most recall, was after the Challenger space-craft exploded in the air, and Feynman was asked to be on the team to figure out why. They had the video of some vapor spraying out from the side high in the air before it blew.

So on public newscast, Feynman was asked to explain what he thought was the problem. So he pointed out, that, they knew there was this frezzing rain, the night before. So Feynman, has glass of ice water in front of him, and in the glass is one of the O rings that seal a connection joint to prevent leaking of fuel etc.

He reaches into glass to pull out the O ring, then snaps it half, because it is brittle from being in freezing water. He states, that, an O ring is not supposed to that i.e. it is supposed to remain flexible in broader range of conditions.

Competition is good when applied for good reasons and not for money or greed etc. Competition is good to find out what is best we can be. Sort of like the USA Army recruit commericial,....be the best you can be, ARMY......

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Joe Biden Revealed

Biden has years of experience in politics. Trumpet had zero.

Below is link to memoirs of Biden in a book. Ive never read any of this. I had no idea he had a stutter issues in childhood on.

.." “I talked like Morse code,” Biden explained in his memoir, Promises to Keep. “Dot-dot- dot-dot-dash-dash-dash-dash.” His stutter put the fighting spirit in him, and he shouted down the bullies: “You gu-gu-gu-gu-guys sh-sh-sh-sh-shut up!” He practiced hard in his bedroom, watching his lips in the mirror with a flashlight while memorizing Yeats and Emerson so he could speak flawlessly in class. “Other kids looked at me like I was stupid,” Biden recalled. “I wanted so badly to prove I was like everybody else.” At Archmere, Biden was outgoing and athletic and relied on sports to distract attention away from his stutter. He turned himself into a star halfback known for his skill at reeling in passes and earned the nickname “Hands,” which replaced the bullying epithets. By sheer will, he conquered the stutter, though it has crept back on him now and then throughout his life. "...

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Morality in of Itself.

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I went back an read D_r's comments, that I was quoting. Now I see my X was not related specifially to X chroomsome and that D_r' X was not about chrosome at all.

X as symbol for a moral standard ex thou shalt not kill. Not kill other humans is inferred. Chickens snakes, cattle etc is not inferrred.

The X for each person is differrent, ---to whatever degree---, from parents, siblings etc, because each individual takes in { absorb/gleans } slightly differrent whole set of morals as they experience life, and that set changes over time.

Morality is learned from Meta-space conceptual teachings from parents, intentionally or non-intentionally.

Morality is learned from movies, --starting back when movies came on the scene---.

Morality is learned from books.

The sub-conscious part morality is likened to the instinctual part experience of seeing bullies, abusing others ---to whatever degree---, and feeling that, that is not good/right thing to do to others. Do not onto others, what you would not like done to you.

Share not with your cousins, that, which you would not have them share with you.

As far as the X or y chromosomes genetics passing on this or that influencing of behavior, is much more complicated as it has to be balanced with the living experiences of each set of circumstances of our lives, starting as child with rising cognition of what is what all around them, and asking question to better understand how, why people behave this way or that way.

Young people look for somone to model themselves after. Young people want to be like the adults and often mimic them, to whatever degree.

Then along the way o flife, they may decide, that, they developed a pattern of behaviour that the think is in error for various reasons. One of those reasons being, a new set of circumstances to fit in with a new group of people---ex differrent church group--- they find they like the behaviours of, and want to fit in.

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Yeah, OGP, your out of context and off to topic by about 99.5%.

Ohio 45 wins 10 losses. Will Joe Biden { the plumber } win again?

Yes is the correct answer. No I dont have a cyrstal ball and there are many complicating factors that could occur leading too the election days, and areas Republicans have manipulated the ability for some who voted for Biden to vote in timely way ex travel time extended, or other ex amount of documentation etc.

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This is exactly what I was thinking of, that morality is passed down to the descendants, in the subconsciousness. So many people experience an "inner voice" or something of that sort that tell them the right thing to do, and it's not that a supernatural being is guiding them as the OP tried to suggest shamelessly.

Ha. I went back to find the contexxt of my comments and still not sure why I wrote them as you quoted me. maybe I was refering to genetics only. I dunno. Maybe would have to read Double-rs comments to better understan why i wrote that.

Certaingly genetics errors of this or that are passed at diffferrent degrees and differrent times, child, grandchild etc. Gets complicated, tho humans begining to understand the complexity of genetics more and more

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Obama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44kyHOPEZV8

Yeah, so what is off topic point in regards to Ohio, 4a5 wins and 10 losses, and can Joe [ the plumber } win again?

Joe The plumber and Joe { the plumber } Biden are topics related to my two posts in whole, not a one liner taken out of context.

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@FLRW

So goes Ohio, so goes the Nation.

OGP you forgot to post your logical, common sense critical thinking pathways for the above, i.e. 45 wins 10 losses of president.

..." Ohio has had ten misses (eight Democratic winners, one Democratic-Republican winner and one Whig winner) in the Presidential election (John Quincy Adams in 1824, Martin Van Buren in 1836, James Polk in 1844, Zachary Taylor in 1848, James Buchanan in 1856, Grover Cleveland in 1884 and 1892, Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1944, John F. Kennedy in 1960, and Joe Biden in 2020), "...

Can Joe { the Plumber } Biden do it again?

.." No one is suggesting that Joe [ the Plumber ] was stupid or dimwitted or in any way mentally challenged. It wasn't his native intelligence that troubled us. Rather, what made Joe so damned infuriating was his annoying combination of abysmal ignorance and near suffocating arrogance. While practically every word out of his mouth was factually inaccurate or unsupportable, he uttered them with the supreme confidence of a Nobel Laureate."..

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The differrence between Meta-space and Metacognition.

Cognition = ..' the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses. '...

Metacognition = Artificial General Intelligence { AGI } is best answer I can conclude.

Electronic bits { AI } vs electrical bits { biologic human }?

AGI faster, tho less intelligent, than the slower, human General Intelligence cognition action, process.

Intelligent humans would not destroy themselves --ex via thermal nuclear apocalypse--- or the ecological environment that sustains them.

Meta-space is the mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i as well a geometric pattern.

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Before their was Jackass, there was dumb ass. Go to time stamp 0:07

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Time does not exist, only events.

Only causal events exist aka cause >> effect >> resultants { many }

Observed { quantised } time exists as our occupied space of physical reality, that, is associated with a Spirit-1, Meta-space, sine-wave pattern /\/\/ aka as ^v^v^v.

past>>>>> Entropic arrow of time >>>>> future

past <<<< Syntropic flow of time <<<< future

Jacob Bekenstien ....' we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D' ..... who gleaned his holographic ideas from black hole mathematics.

We live { biologic life } the illusion of 3D vertexial events composed of interfering 2D nodal events

Y = vertex in my methodology and exists only in conjunction with 3D polyhedra as vertexial events with no less than 6 lines of relationship and 4 vertexes

V = node/nodal event 2D pattern, or less minimal as two conceptual end points of a 1D line ____________

.1........3p = 2 nodal events

....2p.........4 = 2 nodal events

However, if we say there exists lines of relationship between the 4 nodal events, the we may follow the formula, that, 4^2, minus 4, divided by 2 = 6 lines-of-relationship.

Does that make the 4 nodal events a 3D polyhedron? Yes, however, only if we say the numerically linear sequence is not the only aspect of the pattern to be considered.

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s02/figs/tb2701.html

The above set of two nodal event lines, cannot be manipulated to construct a 3D object ex a tube/cylinder.

With three lines can construct a 3D Euclidean prizm as tube/cylinder? No we cannot, because there needs to be three lines with a terminating end point i.e a nodal event and we see here that top line and bottom line has not two terminal nodal events { 1......2p......3p.......4 }. Only 2p and 4 appear on the same line, however, they are not in sequence.

1..........................

.......2p.............4...

...............3p..........

So are we attempting to mix oranges and apples, in mathematical terms?

When does the math, reflect occupied space?

When does the math reflect occupied space of our observed time aka physical reality?

The 2D sine-wave pattern is Meta-space, not a 3D, occupied space until we have 4 vertexial { Y } events. at minimum, and that is the 3D tetrahedron with its 6 lines-of-relationship that has 12, 2D surface angles { 2x 60 degrees each }, and 12, dihedral angles { not shown as the ..Other Guys { Comedy Movie }....} that are also surface angles, between two triangle surfaces of the tetrahedron }.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihedral_angle

Here is one of Fuller take on time.

..." The phenomenon lag is simply due to the limited mechanism of the brain.

...We have towait for the afterimage in order torealize.

...The norm of Einstein isabsolute speed instead of at rest. "At rest" was what we calledinstantaneous in our innocence of yesterday. We evolute towardever lesser brain comprehension lags__ergo,toward ever diminishing error; ergo, ever diminishingmisunderstandings; ergo, ever diminishing fear, andits brain-lagging painful errors ofobjectivity; wherefore we approach eternal instantaneityof absolute and totalcomprehension.

..The eternal instantaneity of no lag at all. However,we have now learned from ourgeneralizations of the great complexity of the interactionsof principles as we aredisembarrassed of our local, exclusively physical chemistryof information-sensingdevices__that what is approached is eternal and instantawareness of absolute reality ofall that ever existed.

...All the great metaphysical integrity of all the individuals,which is potential andinherent in the complex interactions of generalizedprinciples, will always and onlycoexist eternally."...

http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/after/after.html

My final conclusion is presented in another way of saying what the bold in Fullers comment aboves says.

Occupied space reality { Spirit-2 } --as well as occupied space Gravity { Spirit-3 } and Dark Energy { Spirit-4 }--- eternally in complement with Spirit-1, Meta-space principles and patterns.

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