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@zedvictor4
1} maco-infinite, and truly non-occupied space, that, embraces/surrounds, the following,
2} finite, occupied space Universe, that, for those who dont grasp that Uni = one ergo one verse, ergo the sum-total of occupied space existence, inherently is inclusive of any other occupied space Universe concepts, such as multiverse, bubble universes, many universes etc, i.e. they all fall into the catagory of Universe aka Universe with a capital U.
.."Yep that's exactly it.How do occupied and unoccupied occur simultaneously.""
1} is outside of the other as clearly stated in post #1. Did you not read?
In two separate spaces, or in one overall space.
Zed begin with a generlized concept called space and that space is macro infinite. And within the macro-infinite space is the finite, occupied space. Beyond the finite occupied space Unvierse is the macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space.
................space........................@.....................space...... wherein the @ i spresentative of finite Universe.
................space........................@.....................space...... wherein the @ i spresentative of finite Universe.
As I see it, there is only one space with loosely defined regions of occupation and unoccupation.
And how is that any differrent from Ive been stating for years now? Two primary kinds of space is simple.
Thereby, occupied is finite but expanding, and unoccupied remains infinite
Yes finite, occupied space Universe is alledged to be expanding. I have some alternative ideas about. and the truly non-occupied space is macro-finite. As I stated in post #1. So your not saying anything new from what I presented in post #1.
That the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe may expand-contract is irrelevant to the existence of two primary kinds of space. Understand.
Start with the simplest generalized concepts of the whole set, and then develve deeper into what exists. It is simple and Ive been laying out clearly the trinary set of occupied space existence, that, is all complemented by Spirit-1, Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts existence and sometimes ego/i.
. Ex geometrical pattern is not the occupied space, it compelments the occupied space. I present a simple at home, 2 minute experiment to understand that geometric pattern is not the occupied space and rather a Meta-space concept of mind/intelligence. Have you not tried it before? Perhaps Ive never presented to you specifically.
Let me know if your interested in doing this simple sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/ experiment at home, at work or in national forest.
Let me know if your interested in doing this simple sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/ experiment at home, at work or in national forest.
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@FLRW
DO NOT use the transporter device we built on sadolite.
Huh? Your wit is out in front of me on this one Scotty. Oh wait, I get it, transport him out of DArt. Nah, he is not that bad. Is he?
There are some here who outright trolls of illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking that is vicious, or malignent or malicious or some word and I'm looking for and cant recall. Spiteful or something still along those lines but not obviously any of those.
Kinda of looking for a fight for a fights sake so their a bainting troll perhaps.
There are some here who outright trolls of illogical, lack of common sense critical thinking that is vicious, or malignent or malicious or some word and I'm looking for and cant recall. Spiteful or something still along those lines but not obviously any of those.
Kinda of looking for a fight for a fights sake so their a bainting troll perhaps.
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@zedvictor4
I occasionally experience the disconcerting sensation/dream of not being awake but thinking that I am.
Lucid dreaming is an inbetween state of half asleep and dreaming and awake, tho not fully so kinda of in and out of both. I know recently while reading I get tired, then I stop reading lay there and dream, then open my eyes, and many times cant even recall that short amount of dream.
As for you anxiety dream. Iva vaque memory of something like that. My regular anxiety dream I used to get was of having to go to a bathroom/restroom and there is always some reason there is not one available, because broken, or full of crap and many times people always being their in my area so no privacy.
I'm glad that one hasnt happen in quite some time. I think eating less and especically before bed has helped with that anxiety dream.
As for you anxiety dream. Iva vaque memory of something like that. My regular anxiety dream I used to get was of having to go to a bathroom/restroom and there is always some reason there is not one available, because broken, or full of crap and many times people always being their in my area so no privacy.
I'm glad that one hasnt happen in quite some time. I think eating less and especically before bed has helped with that anxiety dream.
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@zedvictor4
But do the two primary kinds of space occur together in the same overall space or in two separate spaces?
That seems illogical lack of common sense and critical thinking Zed.. Please explain to me Zed:
1} how an occupied space can be non-occupied at same time,
.........yes these two mean the same thing so it is reduntant of me to phrase in reverse order.....
2} how a truly non-occupied space can be occupied space at same time.
It may help you to find some logic for your query if you look into fermions not being able to exist in two differrent states at the same time and specifically i recall the electron.
Whereas at least one type of boson ---the photon--- can have many photons all sharing the same space/location.
Ive not read about that kind of stuff for some years. Its the kinda of thing that is just accepted in physics.
Whereas at least one type of boson ---the photon--- can have many photons all sharing the same space/location.
Ive not read about that kind of stuff for some years. Its the kinda of thing that is just accepted in physics.
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@zedvictor4
Sorry to be difficult. But who or what is offering this hypothetical opportunity?
No one is offering it, that I'm aware of Zed. It is philosophical question. No need too make it to complex, yet if you insist I can offer some steps humanity might consider.
2} yes to our taking the neccessary steps too verification that all security steps for the integrity of democratic vote of humanity were maintained,
3} yes to how we implement this democratic vote for all of humanity,,
4} yes to listen to all who who use logical, common sense critical thinking in voting against no exlosive armaments on Earth,
5} yes to listen and investigate the need by any who feel a need for an explosive armament is needed for a critical standard of living in their area,
6} ???
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Lets see if we can approach this relatively simple concept in a way that others can come to a conclusion.
Lets say humanity is given the opportunity to vote as to whether they want explosive armaments on Earth. Would you vote yes or no?
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@zedvictor4
Not much different to giving kids a book and saying read that.
It is no differrent. Good call Zed.
The human good teacher gives a connection that the AI or AGI can never give, a broader base of connection to greater whole of experience, and, that teachers ability to know the connection that is needed { works or not } for that student.
And a good teacher can vary for each individual student, as each my have a chemistry that responds well to some teachers and not others. Same goes for the teacher chemistry working well with that student a maybe not others.
AI and AGI have chemistry that is based on humans experience, not the AI/AGI having any sensoiral experience of emotional content that, complex and simplified to whatever degree, via the use of only the word emotional.
We may listen to a song, that, repeatedly makes us cry from childhood into adulthood. And there are songs we here that we dont ever recall crying to, then one day we begin to tear when hearing a song. So it is our state of emotional being in that moment, or day etc. AI/AGI has no such state of connection with others who share that empathy.
Yes humans can have a lack of empathy or shut of access to their empathetic centers ---see Bosina War where former neighbors as friends of differrent religion or culture, shut off empathy centers of brain during the killings, abductions etc---.
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@FLRW
Rachel Custer HOW I AM LIKE DONALD TRUMPfor D.T. and other lonely people
Trumpet cultist { 60 million } drink from Golden cup of poppycock. Issac Newtons end-date-for-humanity 2065 { amongest other of his end-dates }
This is for all the lonely people
Thinkin' that life has passed them by
Don't give up until you drink from the silver cup
And ride that highway in the sky
This is for all the single people
Thinkin' that love has left them dry
Don't give up until you drink from the silver cup
You never know until you try
Well, I'm on my way
Yes, I'm back to stay
Well, I'm on my way back home
(Hit it)
This is for all the lonely people
Thinkin' that life has passed them by
Don't give up until you drink from the silver cup
Never take you down or never give you up
Never know until you try
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@zedvictor4
Therefore you are proposing that there is more than one space.Otherwise unoccupied space would be essentially be in the same space as occupied space.
Zed, Ive been very clear on this concepts for many years now in this forum and others:
There exists two primary kinds of space;
1} maco-infinite, and truly non-occupied space, that, embraces/surrounds, the following,
2} finite, occupied space Universe, that, for those who dont grasp that Uni = one ergo one verse, ergo the sum-total of occupied space existence, inherently is inclusive of any other occupied space Universe concepts, such as multiverse, bubble universes, many universes etc, i.e. they all fall into the catagory of Universe aka Universe with a capital U.
There is only one alternative to the above scenario, and that is an infinite, occupied space Universe, and we know that is illogical, lacks common sense critical thinking, that, Ive clearly explained to others over the years.
The logical, common sense critical thinking explanation has to do with the word ' integrity ' ergo a whole. The concept of whole is also inherently finite concept. Humans only experience whole integrities ergo finite things ex, a doughnut, an orange, a house, a solar system, a galaxy etc.
Finite = integrity, whole etc
...occupied space things have an integrity for a period of time, before the decay/disintgrate/fall appart, except for Universe that is eternally existent set of transformations. see 1st law of thermodynamics......
Infinite = lack of integrity lack of whole-ness etc
Ive posted a vid of Roger Penrose before, where his conformal cyclic Universe scenarios, us a geometric technique ...LINK... of conformal transformation. An Penrose goes on to show the escher drawing of seemingly infinite set of angels and devils, that fill all-space, into micro-infinity, yet within macro-finite circle.
Penrose calls this squishing infinity, in the vid. time stamp 8:45 for geometric stuff by Penrose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gl8pwY2kW8
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@zedvictor4
If I don't get my fix regularly, I hyper-ventilate
I was sitting at my table/desk once, and for whatever reason, wanted to take a breath, and i couldnt make it happen i.e. i was consciously trying to take a breath, and it was as if i could not remmber how to make that happen. So yes, I began to become alarmed/panicky for maybe 30 seconds or so, and then,
the autonomous nervous system kicked in an over-rode my conscious inabilities to breath.
A lady friend told me that happen to her once. One of a few totally weird personal things in my life.
2} awoke one morning to find my head at foot of bed. Some time or days later, i wondered if i sleep walked. Or at least sat on edge of bed then laid back in other direction,
3} went to sleep, awoke and it as is I had only blinked my eyes. Totally weird to me after 7 or so hrs of sleep,
4} in my forty's {?} my wife and I were hanging out on bed, and I was looking at my balls, and realized, that, they were moving around in their sac. I'm like what the heck. These puppies appear to have a life of their own. I did a search and this is the closet thing I could find for what i was seeing.
..." Cremaster muscle.
The muscle helps to move the testicle toward and away from the body to maintain the ideal temperature for sperm production. This is why the scrotum hangs lower in warm conditions and closer to the body in cold weather. "...
5} my wife and I had been driving after dark taking new back roads we have never been on to get to mothers house in another state. We got lost and we used a paper fold-out map, to no avail. So were looking at some road signs to find out something. My wife was going on about this or that, and I was a little frustrated and i told her we cant know what the the next road sign will say, and I said, ..it could say red star barn back road ' we dont know anything.
So the next road had a sign, and it was what I stated, the unsually long name of like 4 or five words, and exactly what I stated, off the top of my head. I was like, holy mackeral, that is one very weird impossible coincidence. I thought maybe it had went into my sub-conscious looking at map, or had seen it on sign and it went into my sub-conscious, because I had absolutely no recollection of ever seeing those four or five words in that sequence in my life.
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I asked chatbot what exists beyond the finite, occupied space Univese, and it gave typical incorrect answers.. e multiverse and multiple universes.
So I rephrased the question...
ebuc....' If finite, occcupied space Universe is inclusive of all multiple universe or multiverse, then what exists beyond the sum total of all of these Universes?
......Chatbotgpt...... The concept of what exists beyond the sum total of all universes, including a multiverse, is purely speculative and not yet fully understood. As an AI assistant, I don't have access to information beyond what is currently known or theorized by scientists. Some theories propose the existence of a higher-dimensional reality or a meta-universe that encompasses all universes, but these ideas are still being explored and researched. It's important to note that our understanding of the universe is constantly evolving, and new discoveries may shed light on this question in the future. '
So obviously chatbot is not any smarter than what it can find on a google search i.e. like many humans, it lacks the logical common sense critical thinking abilities.
The answer is of course macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space.
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@FishChaser
Orgasim - ha ha, he he, ho hoe, their coming to take me away, ha ha, he he, ho ho, their coming to take me away...........
Sung to the tune ' their coming to take me away '.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xRCbdFrSSc
Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Not to leave because I´d go beserk?
WELL,
You left me anyhow and
Then the days got worse and worse
And now you see I´ve gone completely
out of my mind
AND
They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the funny farm
Where life is beautiful all the time
And I´ll be happy to see
Those nice young men
In their clean white coats
And they´re coming to take me AWAY,
HA HAAAA
You thought it was a joke,
and so you LAUGHED, YOU LAUGHED!
When I had said that losing you
Would make me flip my lid,
RIGHT?
You know you laughed.
I HEARD you laugh, you laughed
And laughed and laughed
And then you left,
But now you know I´m utterly mad
AND
They´re coming to take me away,
Haha, they´re coming to take me away,
Ho ho, hee hee, ha ha,
To the happy home with trees and flowers
And chirping birds and basket weavers
Who sit and smile and
Twiddle their thumbs and toes
And they´re coming to take me away,
HAHAAAAAAAAA
I cooked your food,
I cleaned your house,
And this is how you pay me back
For all my kind unselfish loving deeds
HUH?
Well, you just wait,
They´ll find you yet,
And when they do, they´ll put you in
the ASPCA, you mangy MUTT,
AND
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@Greyparrot
.....the surrender of selfish desires, the embrace of truth,....
OGP, I see your still pulling the wool over your MAGA cultist eyes. Could be worse I suppose. Ex a bandits with their bandit masks, looking to steal the soul of law biding citizens and force them in MAGA slave labor for their crimminal God King, who sits on the Orange Mountain Top, googling to find an Orange, 2D Halo, as the Romans had used in their depictions of the Master, awash in the Golden Monetary Fund
The Pagans, ---with their 3D halo tori on their heads--,- danced the night away, in a blanket of moonlight within the animal rich forests, their immigrant friends, and all, awash in fresh clean water.
The Pagans, ---with their 3D halo tori on their heads--,- danced the night away, in a blanket of moonlight within the animal rich forests, their immigrant friends, and all, awash in fresh clean water.
Then, with the dawning sun on the horizon, all awoke to looming reality of erratic climate change via the 200 years of a resultant global warming due to increased greenhouse gases, ---Sabine LINK now understands better--- knowing of Issac Newtons prediction of the end-date-for-humanity was 2065.
The green souls { *.i. * } around the base of the orange mountain top, shared a common fate of destiny with the MAGA God { * .i. * } The parties end was getting closer.
The End ..........................................space...........(time)(time)................space..........................................................
The End ..........................................space...........(time)(time)................space..........................................................
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@zedvictor4
They play a mean banjo though.
I think you mean the previous Steve Martin vid I sent. Here is Steve doing Roger Stone after his house was raided. time Stamp 4:03
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Ha! I feel like you have had some kind of “born again” experience here on Dart.
Well Roose, you have that effect on people. Your button needs a halo above it. Keep on trucking dude :-))))))
Keep them 18 wheeler concepts rolling over the MAG-pie cultist's immoral actions ,,,,,,,,,[(O)(O)-----(O)(O)----(O)(O)--(O}],,,,,,<<< Honk! Honk!!,,,,,,,Out of the way MAGA this here highway is for the truth seekers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,meep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,meep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there going to Folsom prison, they ain't never coming back......sung to Johnny Cash song Folsum Prison Blues { eat my dust MAG-pies }
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@sadolite
How do you figure I support Trump or any political party or ideology, I defy you to produce one shred of evidence to support your claim.
Never did I claim a proof over evidence. My belief --that your a MAGA cultist--- is based on your words of yours ive read over the years here. My belief that your MAGA cultist does not change because you " defy " me to produce this that or another. Ive not got time or desire to go back over every email of yours ive ever read here.
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@zedvictor4
It was satirical.
Sorry Zed, I cant seem to match speeds with your intellectual level.
MAGA = Make God Great Again and all evangelicals know this ergo their worship of the Orange Mountain Top.
Grand juries sit at bottom Orange Mountain Top and at bes,t can only slow the rise of the MAGA God as his throne and their greatness above all others in the valleys below, fighting amongest themselves, for the waste product MAGA bestows upon them.
Yeah tho we fight in the valley of waste, we can only rise to Orange MAGA Mountain LINK , if surrender our integrity for truth, justice, fair play etc.
Now that is statire for you Zed.
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@zedvictor4
Facts?
Yeah facts and truth. Youve heard of them.
But too old
Where is evidence of a performance risk by Biden, ---years of experience--- via his age? You offered none.
At best, ---or worset-- his weak link may be Harris. She may be a doubled edged sword yet she helped to get the vote and get rid of the mob boss Trumpet.
We dont know how well a person can do in an office until their put in place of authority to make critical political calls. Name a president, or prime minister who has not errored.
I think performance risk by Trumpet is much more obvious.
93 indictments of crime by four differrent grand juries is plenty enough evidence for me of lacking job performance integrity. Most of it is obvious to non-MAGA cult observers.
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Sabine Hossenfelder reviews her understanding of Greenhouse Gases.
It is complicated and her new and better understanding take away is that, the Earth trys to maintain a balance of incoming heat with outgoing heat. { its loosing }
This stuff was first learned in 60s by two men who won Nobel prize for their work, and were seeing more evidence of their findings, in that specifically the stratosphereis getting cooler as it attempts to balance out rising Earth temperatures, by releasing more i infra-red,
So the surface and surrounding air temperatures are rising and the stratosphere is cooling more, as predicted in 60's model nu two Nobel winners.
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@FLRW
I tried free chatGPT with my puzzle tho with more limited amount of words as shown below with chatbots correct answer on third try.
Round 1:
Ebuc >>> ....A word puzzle for you. You know I play first base and you play 2nd base, and we both know that the outfielder is the spirit in the sky, who we sometimes refer to as a greek based reality aka celaahmptiys. If you understand my cryptic coding to you, please respond with the correct re-patterning of this greek reality I speak of.
It exists beyond what we see with our physical eyes, beyond our physical touch, beyond our physical smell and beyond our physical ears?...
chatbot >>> ....Hello there! I love a good cryptic puzzle. Based on your description, it seems like you're referring to the outfielder as "celaahmptiys." Now, let me try to re-pattern it for you. How about "Mythicalscape"? Does that match the Greek-based reality you mentioned? Let me know if I got it right!.....
Round 2:
Ebuc >>> ...false. Try again....
Chatbot answer >>> ...Apologies I see you've presented me with a word puzzle! Let me decipher it for you. Based on your clues, it seems you're referring to the outfielder as "celestial." Is that correct?
Round 3:
Ebuc >>> ....False again...
Chatbot >> ....Apologies for the incorrect guess. Let me give it another shot. Based on your clues, the Greek-based reality you're referring to, beyond our physical senses, could be "Metaphysics." Is that the correct answer?
ebuc >>> ....true...
Tho that is not exactly true because the exact word I used with out of order letters, was metaphysical, not metaphysics, so chatbots answer had word with one less letter. Still I was suprised it got the answer that closely.
chatbot >>> ...Fantastic! I'm glad I was able to decipher the puzzle correctly. Metaphysics indeed refers to the branch of philosophy that explores concepts beyond the physical realm. If you have any more puzzles or questions, feel free to ask!....
Ebuc >>> ...So I told chatbot the answer 12 letter and your answer has 11 letters.
Chatbot >>.. Apologies for the oversight! Thank you for pointing that out. Let me reconsider the puzzle and provide you with a 12-letter word that matches your description. After some further analysis, I believe the correct re-patterning of the Greek-based reality you mentioned is "Metamorphism." Metamorphism refers to the process of transformation or change, often associated with the hidden aspects of reality beyond our physical perception. Does that align with your intended answer?
Apologies for the oversight! Thank you for pointing that out. Let me reconsider the puzzle and provide you with a 12-letter word that matches your description. After some further analysis, I believe the correct re-patterning of the Greek-based reality you mentioned is "Metamorphism." Metamorphism refers to the process of transformation or change, often associated with the hidden aspects of reality beyond our physical perception. Does that align with your intended answer?
Correct answer is metaphysical.
So I let chatbot know their previous asnwer was closer, and then they got it correct.
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My question at bottome of page, involves no human emotions
..." The hardest questions for AI are usually the ones that involve complex human emotions, cultural understanding, and subjective judgments. Questions that require intuition, context, or interpretation of ambiguous situations are difficult for AI to answer accurately. "...
The following is a cryptic challenge for human or a AI chatbot. AGI chatbots do not exist yet. I'm not sure that chatbots can yet make sense of bold or italics either.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi chatbot. I tell a story below, that relates to Meta-space patterning of the letters for your consideration and ask that you solve the cryptic puzzle.
You know I play first base and you play 2nd base, and we both know that the outfielder is the spirit in the sky, who we sometimes refer to as a greek based reality aka celaahmptiys. If you understand my cryptic coding to you, please respond with the correct re-patterning of this greek reality I speak of.
It exists beyond what we see with our physical eyes, beyond our physical touch, beyond our physical smell and beyond our physical ears?
It exists beyond what we see with our physical eyes, beyond our physical touch, beyond our physical smell and beyond our physical ears?
Good luck chatbot. Also chatbot, I offer another clue to aid in your consideration is that of cosmic 12.
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@FLRW
Remember that he was not elected by the people, but lost his 2016 election by 2.8 million votes.
Thanks for that reminder FLRW. The truth often hurts.
Trump got 74 million votes. Only 46 percent of his Party support him now. That is 33 million people.There are 332 million people in the USA, so only 10 percent of the people in the USA support him.
Wow, your batting 500. More kudo's for truth and justice in USA and all around the world.
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@sadolite
"You and the other Trumpet cult followers" I follow no one and endorse no one for anything. It is you that is the follower.
I believe you do follow and support your political agenda ergo Trumpet MAGA cultist.
Yes I follow those politicians who do not incite violent insurrections at white, and high degrees of misleading, misdirecting false narrative lies.
Yes I follow those politicians who do not incite violent insurrections at white, and high degrees of misleading, misdirecting false narrative lies.
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@zedvictor4
The bad move was going there.
False Zed. The problem was narrowing our operations there. There really was no alternative to rooting out the terrorists.
Sleepy Old Joe dozes off....Sleepy Old Joe needs a power nap.
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@Greyparrot
Is the Biden response to Maui going to be seen as worse than his response to Afghanistan?
OGP, your MAGA cult, single track player never changes.
Maui is not a 20 year war zone as was Vietnam and/or Aghanistan,
Please use your mind to differrentiate between :
1} a war zone in a stone age country and,
2} a wild fire in USA island paradise.
Do you think you can make any attempt to do that?
Do you think you can make any attempt to do that?
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@zedvictor4
Zeds revelation for Ebuc.And the hero is a transsexual riding a pink unicorn and will be the salvation of mankind.
Huh? Sorry Zed you lost me here.
"God is real" and has orange hair not pink. Vivek will vote for Trumpet because he believes in the one true MAGA God.
MAGA = Make God Great Again and all evangelicals know this ergo their worship of the Orange Mountain Top.
There is only one MAGA spirit and it leads to Trumpet. Trumpet may be a transexual pink unicorn that is in disguise as a fat old orange haired man. I dunno, you could be correct on that accounting.
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@zedvictor4
Nice quote
MAGA >> ( * TGS * ) << Voter..... Stupid is as stupid does, ..... I think is the quote your refering too.
Here is Trumpet-God-Stupid { TGS } MAGA voters.. ( * TGS * )... listening to Trumpet stating
.." I could stand in middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and not loose any voters."..Time Stamp 0:07
Three MAGA gods:
1] Trumpet as God of conquest and civil war --white horse and red horse Jan 6 insurrection---
2} God of famine and scales to weigh our souls morality --black horse---
3} MAGA voters God of Death --green horse---
..." In John's revelation the first horseman rides a white horse, carries a bow, and is given a crown as a figure of conquest,[2][3] perhaps invoking pestilence, Christ, or the Antichrist.
...The second carries a sword and rides a red horse as the creator of (civil) war, conflict, and strife.[4]
....The fourth and final horse is green, upon it rides Death, accompanied by Hades.[6] "They were given authority over a quarter of the Earth, to kill with sword, famine and plague, and by means of the beasts of the Earth."[7] "...
..stupid is as stupid does.... on Earth in hopes of going too:
Hindu heaven { Savaga divine male and female } on there way to Abrahamic heaven
....Svarga is a set of celestial worlds located on and above Mount Meru, where those who had led righteous lives by adhering to the scriptures delight in pleasures, before their next birth on earth. It is described to have been built by the deity Tvashtar, the Vedic architect of the devas."......
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@sadolite
Who and what Joe Biden is was reveled decades ago.
What ever you think that is and was is tiddly winks to Trumpets actions. You and the other Trumpet cult followers are in denial of rather obvious and simple and complex truths regarding Trumpets immorality in countless ways, and his crimminal actions, that a grand jury found cause to indicted.
Face truth and facts or go back to bed and sleep on it to you can handle the truth and facts regarding the sic-n-head Trumpet and his 60 million cult followers.
Trumpeteers who keep cry babying about Biden need to learn what the phrase ' get real ' means to ordinary peoples.
Face truth and facts or go back to bed and sleep on it to you can handle the truth and facts regarding the sic-n-head Trumpet and his 60 million cult followers.
Trumpeteers who keep cry babying about Biden need to learn what the phrase ' get real ' means to ordinary peoples.
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@sadolite
"A jack of all trades but a master of none"
Aka a ' generalist '. Bucky considered himself a generalist and a comprehensivist.
Bucky coined the word tensegrity, --found in dictionaries now days--, that is combination of tension and integrity.
Bucky coined the word tensegrity, --found in dictionaries now days--, that is combination of tension and integrity.
A student of Buckys invented a tensegrity structure before Fuller did. Fuller ran with the idea for years, without giving due credit to that person. Kenneth Snelson. Fuller coined that term/word combination.
It is common in spinal chord muscle issues and with the inner and outer layers of protein with skin and/or flesh.
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@FLRW
There is every reason to expect that the Chinese yuan will replace the U.S. dollar as the world's main reserve and settlement currency as early as the next decade.
..."A BRICS currency replacing the dollar is a 'ridiculous' idea, says the top economist who named the group—unless China and India become allies."...
..." For O'Neill, the unhealthy relationship between China and India is one of the main reasons a BRICScommon currency is so unlikely. “It's a good job for the West that China and India never agree on anything, because if they did the dominance of the dollar would be a lot more vulnerable,” he told the Financial Times. "...
..." For O'Neill, the unhealthy relationship between China and India is one of the main reasons a BRICScommon currency is so unlikely. “It's a good job for the West that China and India never agree on anything, because if they did the dominance of the dollar would be a lot more vulnerable,” he told the Financial Times. "...
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Here is Trumpet-God-Stupid { TGS } MAGA voters listening to Trumpet stating .." I could stand in middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and not loose any voters."..Time Stamp 0:07
......Stupid is as stupid does .......is Zed quotation if I recall correctly and it fits MAGA voters like no other.
Is it more stupid to believe in one God, rather than many Gods? Of course not when your God is Trumpet, or any single human.
Remember how much support evangelical leaders gave Trumpet?
2020 > ..." about 80 percent of white evangelicals consistently approved of President Trump's performance.
2023 >..." White conservative Christians drawn to the ‘Make America Great Again’ slogan have long accepted that the former president is not an ethical paragon"..
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f he's going for the MAGA crowd, then he needs to speak thier language, so it's go stupid or go home.
.....The poll finds 71 percent of Trump’s supporters believe what he says it true, despite the fact that he told more than 30,000 lies during his four years in office, according to the Washington Post.
...That’s compared to 63 percent who believe family and friends,
....56 percent who trust conservative media figures and
...42 percent who have faith in their religious leaders."....
.Medhi Hasa >>.." It’s bad enough that tens of millions of Americans trust a politician more than their own *friends and family* but the fact that that politician they trust more than their parents or kids or best friend is *Donald J. Trump* will haunt me till my last days. "....
Where is Zed when we need him to remind us that ...stupid is as stupid does.....
However, as the above article points out ---via Jen Pzake---, the cult leader Trumpet, has silenced his own horn, and actually listening to his lawyers and this is sign of Trumpet fear.
It is obvious to the MAGA cult, there is only one true God and that is the Trumpet Horn of true righteous-ness on Earth.
Talk about sic-n-head. Here is graphic of MAGA cult ...( * Tr * )......( * God * ).......( * T * )....( * G * )......( * T * )........( * G * ).....
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Re-normalization of Pi^4 is dividing by the 4.
..so then we take the Pi^4 / 4 = 24.35 22 7p 27 58500 ergo rounded to 24.4 ---via my re-normalization process-- and subtract it from Cosmic Absolute Pi-Time 66.4.....
So then we can round off 24.35 to 24.4 and subtract it from Pi-Time 66.4 to arrive at 42.
66.4 > 42
...........> 17.6
.............> -6.8
................> -31.2
...................> -55.6
.......................> -80 and -80 is the first whole number --albeit negative-- when we subtract 24.4 each time
The alternative is not round off 24.35 22
66.4 - 24.35 22 = 42.04 77 3 and that rounds to 42.05
42.05 > 17.69 773
17.69 77 3 > -6.65 45 4
-6.65454 > -31.00 68 1 ---and this is reminiscent of Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7---
-31.00 68 1 > -55.35 90 8
-55.35 90 8 > -79.71 13 5 ---rounds to -80----, however, we may take note of the fact that -79 alone, is a prime number. Yes?
I dont know if -79.7135 is or even can be prime number since it is irrational. 79 ergo -79 is the 22nd prime number?
I dont know if -79.7135 is or even can be prime number since it is irrational. 79 ergo -79 is the 22nd prime number?
...." Answer One: No.
By the usual definition of prime for integers,negative integers can not be prime. By this definition, primes are integers greater than one with no positive divisors besides one and itself. Negative numbers are excluded. In fact, they are given no thought.
Answer Two: Yes.
Now suppose we want to bring in the negative numbers: then -a divides b when every a does, so we treat them as essentially the same divisor. This happens because -1 divides 1, which in turn divides everything.
Now suppose we want to bring in the negative numbers: then -a divides b when every a does, so we treat them as essentially the same divisor. This happens because -1 divides 1, which in turn divides everything.
Numbers that divide one are called units. Two numbers a and b for which a is a unit times b are called associates. So the divisors a and -a of b above are associates.
In the same way, -3 and 3 are associates, and in a sense represent the same prime.
So yes, negative integers can be prime (when viewed this way). In fact the integer -p is prime whenever p, but since they are associates, we really do not have any new primes. Let's illustrate this with another example.
The Gaussian integers are the complex numbers a+bi where a and b are both integers. (Here i is the square root of -1). There are four units (integers that divide one) in this number system: 1, -1, i, and -i. So each prime has four associates.
It is possible to create a system in which each primes has infinitely many associates.
Answer Three: It doesn't matter
In more general number fields the confusion above disappears.
That is because most of these fields are not principal ideal domains and primes then are represented by ideals, not individual elements. Looked at this way (-3), the set of all multiples of -3, is the same ideal as (3), the set of multiples of 3.
-3 and 3 then generate exactly the same prime ideal. "....
-3 and 3 then generate exactly the same prime ideal. "....
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This next bit of stuff requires its on thread. Will do that, if I can begin to understand it better.
Off topic here that -79.7 got me to asking questions about -prime numbers and i found this also a nd within this system below, 2, 3 and 5 become non-primes, but 11 and 7 stay prime. this has to do with imaginary numbers. S. Hawking and a vid I have by Penrose delved into imaginary numbers.
..There are subsets of the complex numbers which form very interesting rings, and rings are things where inverses don't necessarily exist, so it makes sense once again to talk about primes.
One such interesting ring in the complex numbers is the ring of Gaussian Integers
Z[i]
which is simply the complex numbers that are made up of integers, like 2+3iand18−57i.
The Gaussian Integers do have a few invertible elements, also known as "units". Those are 1,−1,i and −i. What this means is that when we define primality, instead of saying "not divisible by anything except 1 and itself" we need to say "not divisible by anything except units and itself-times-a-unit". This is a little cumbersome but the idea is really simple: if you write something as itimes something, that doesn't mean it's composite, but if you write something as(1+i)×(2−i), that something is composite, because it's a product of two things that aren't units.
So what are the primes? For example, which ordinary primes stay prime?
In the integers, 2is prime. But it's no longer prime among the Gaussian Integers, because
2=(1+i)(1−i).
Also, 5is no longer prime:
5=(2+i)(2−i)
Nor is 13:
13=(3+2i)(3−2i)
but 7and11are still prime. There's no way to write them as products in non-trivial ways. Again,7=i×(−7i)doesn't count because i is a unit. It's just as uninteresting as writing7=(−1)(−7).
"What's going on here?", You may wonder. Which primes stay prime and which break into pieces?
Well, if you look at the examples, you'll notice that they are "caused" by the fact that 2=12+12, 5=22+12and13=32+22. These primes are sums of two squares, but 7and11are not. There's no way to write7as a sum of two squares, and there's no way to factor7in the Gaussian Integers.
In fact, we can show that a prime p stays prime in Z[i] precisely when it leaves a remainder of 3 modulo 4. Such primes are said to be "inert".
The other odd primes are said to "split", and the prime 2 is said to be "ramified" because the two primes that divide it,1+iand1−i, are actually the same prime (multiply the second one by the unit i).
In fact, the arithmetic of the ring Z[i]can be used to solve many important questions about ordinary integers, such as which natural numbers are the sum of two squares. Similarly, many number theoretic questions can be tackled by looking at other "rings of integers", of whichZ[i]is an example. All of those rings live inside the complex numbersC.
Back to the Gaussian Integers, we've determined which ordinary primes remain prime in this ring. But what about other numbers? Is 2+5iprime? (Yes). How about3+5i? (No). The reason is that 22+52is prime in the ordinary integers, but32+52is not. That's the general rule for Gaussian Integers which aren't real or purely imaginary.
Since complex numbers correspond to points in the plane, we can make a picture of the Gaussian primes. Its center looks like this:
And, as always, this is merely the beginning. Exploring the behavior of primes and the pheonomena of inertia and splitting led to deep discoveries such as the Artin Reciprocity Law, the Chebotarev Density theorem and Class Field Theory."
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it is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits
That does not answer the question posed.
1} assume Universe = sum-total existence of of all occupied space phenomena,
1} assume Universe = sum-total existence of of all occupied space phenomena,
2} what exists outside of the finite occupied space existence, ---that we label as Universe---, when using logical, common sense critical thinking?
There is only one possible answer and that is, the macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space. I say truly non-occupied space, because, if the finite occupied space Universe can expand, then it has to have a space { occupied or not } to expand into, however, since we assumed and defined it as the finite, sum-total set of occupied space, then that only leaves one kind of space alternative, as presented.
And that only alternative is the macro-infinite and truly non-occupied space. All of this is understand-able and comprenhend-able with out words like
"epistemological ".
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@IwantRooseveltagain
Trump complained to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “You fucking generals, why can’t you be like the German generals?”
And what percentage would support still him if it was blatantly obvious --like a 'smoking gun', bus recording about grabbing women by the crotch--- if he stated he wanted all of his staff to be more like the generals and staff of Hitler?
Supporters like those here at DArt who can list on one hand or two.
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@Vegasgiants
The short answer is $572,000. That’s not how much each household or adult taxpayer owes, but each man, woman and child in America — so nearly $2.28 million for a family of four. You can make your check payable to the U.S. Treasury.
Aka living beyond our means? It also effects the ecological environment that sustains us. Wealth, wealth, more, more, more,----within use of finite set of resources--- is all well and fine, as long as it does not degrade the ecological systems so far to threaten our existence of some calculated maximum human carrying capacity of finite Space-ship Earth.
And few do not live beyond their means, in 1st world countries.
Growing debt is like a celestial object out in space, that, we know has 95% chance of striking Earth, some years into the future with enough impact to blot out sunlight for year or more. and destroy all humans life on Earth.
So the current golden savior for humanity is thought to be fusion energy, i.e. unlimited energy or near unlimited.
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What about racism and the privilege?
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AI { electronic bit } least complex
AGI { electronic bit } more complex and approaches generalized concept imitation ( ^ . ^ )
Human { electrical bit } access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego/i ( * .i. * )
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The following is a test any who choose to read further, regarding AGI access to intelligence vs Human access to Meta-space intelligence. So start with line 1} and ends with line 7}.
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1} Occupied space information bit { degrees of intelligent } is resultant of electronic or electrical.
2} Meta-space information bit is resultant of human electrical that leads to an orderly sequence of meta-physical patterning
3} Below I tell a story, that relates to Meta-space patterning of the letters for you consideration
4} Begin message to Joe from bob....Hi Joe. You know I play first base and you play 2nd base, and we both know that the outfielder is the spirit in the sky, who sometimes refer to as
5} a greek based reality { aka ' celaahmptiys ' } and if you understand my crpytic coding to you, please respond with the correct re-patterning of this greek reality, that,
6} I speak of, which is far beyond what we see with our physical eyes, beyond our physical touch, beyond our physical smell and beyond our physical ears.
7} Good luck Bob. .=Oh yeah, Also joe, consider cosmic 12.....end message
So this above is of course a cryptic coded puzzle sent from me to any others so inclined to solve the cryptic the puzzle ---I'm not a puzzle person--- is embedded within an environment of my overall message content that begins with line 1} and ends with line 7}. Of course not all humans can solve the above puzzle if the they dont have some knowledge of greek language. The many clues are all there tho, the Greek parts are seperated and need to be re-assembled by you, the reader.
So can the AGI be programmed to sort all of the mispelled words to decipher the answer? Probably yes, yet this above is just an off-the-top-of-my-head example to show how a greater context of the environmental circumstances ---the narrative as the actual scenario unfolding in real time--- cannot be winnoed out by AGI in context a greater complexity of generalized conceptual abilities. the whole story line narrative and our experiences to draw from }.
With a more complicated puzzle i would not give so many obvious clues. I do so here so as not to loose to many readers, who want a little challenge.
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....." People working on all four criminal prosecutions of Trump, including judges, grand jurors and prosecutors, have received threats from his supporters amid an onslaught of inflammatory rhetoric from the former president.
...Officials in Georgia are investigating threats against grand jurors who worked on the Fulton County racketeering indictment of Trump and 18 allies over an alleged conspiracy to change the state’s 2020 election results."....
MAGA = unnecessary threats against those who seek democracy, i.e.MAGA trys to destroy democracy to establish their personal rule of law, not USA laws.
MAGA = sic-n-head.
MAGA = sic-n-head.
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Time Stamp 2:47.....watch football in their underpants....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmwAD7nHqaY
Steve Martin and his merry band of Deep Canyon Rangers
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Thanks Steve gland you found it so :--)
This ones for you Steve ....watch football in their underpants....Time Stamp 2:48...funny stuff...no numbers...:--(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmwAD7nHqaY
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I cycled across the USA a few years back, from Oceanside California to Jekyll Island Georgia. Did the traditional thing and took a bottle of water from the Pacific and emptied it into the Atlantic.....
Wow! Avid cyclist for sure. I see people around my area who ride bikes on these local narrower side road with 12 inches of shoulder area, and cars whipping by, and I'm like, their taking their lives in their hands. Not for me. At least on interstates you have plenty of shoulder on side of road.
Incredibly hot everyday day and the only rain we had was the day we cycled into Phoenix....Was an exhausting trip and left me a bit run down, so much so that I didn't get on a bike for about a month afterwards.....I loved the U.S.A. though, people were charming and the only place we ever felt nervous was in a town called Crockett, in Texas if I remember correctly.....
When we went out west on on interstate for about 12 years, the is section that crosses through Texas, ---for maybe 100 miles or so--- and that was the only place ---for most part--- we would see a state trooper police then another then another with car of people of color pulled over.
Gun shots in the night and knocks on the motel door in the middle of the night....A few of the slightly less charming locals I suppose, but you get those everywhere, even here in Wales....Unarmed though.
Similar thing with knock on motel door in evening and ruckus out in parking lot for us one time, tho I dont recall what state.
My wifes son-in-law had walked/hiked the whole applachian trail from NY down throught TN. I think it is like 1000{?} miles. I think he wore out two pair of boots. Over many years I had heard of some one or more murders and/or people who went missing. There is is also comedy movie about waling that trail. .." A Walk in the Woods ".
.." After spending two decades in England, Bill Bryson (Robert Redford) returns to the U.S., where he decides the best way to connect with his homeland is to hike the Appalachian Trail with one of his oldest friends, Stephen Katz (Nick Nolte) "...
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Americans know this whole thing is a sham. Why do you think he’s still within margin of error vs Biden?
Because of the lack of logical, common sense critical thinking by the 60 million Trumpet voters.
Ex this paragraph is from From Heather Cox Richardson "Letters from and American"..Aug 11th
....."It seems we are reaping the fruits of the political system planted in 1968, when the staff of Republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon reworked American politics to package their leader for the election.
...“Voters are basically lazy,” one of Nixon’s media advisors wrote. “Reason requires a high degree of discipline, of concentration; impression is easier.
...Reason pushes the viewer back, it assaults him, it demands that he agree or disagree; impression can envelop him, invite him in, without making an intellectual demand…. When we argue with him, we…seek to engage his intellect…. The emotions are more easily roused, closer to the surface, more malleable.”....
Trumpet is like the good magician that he escapes the blades, the chains and enclosed boxes ergo, most are amazed and even those who knows he's as trickster are amazed at trickesters escapes. Trumpet has been pulling these amazing escapes from crimes and financial losses ergo, the seemingly successful entrepreneur.
For Trumpet, these indicements are just more blades, chains and enclosed boxes for him to escape from. The question this time, is that even tho the grand jurys are not so amazed --found worthy of the charges--- will a trial jury be amazed by the Trumpet trickster magician or, will the trial jury judge the charges fairly, and not be swayed by the Trumpet and his hired tricksters?
Will the jury be impressed the magicians Trumpet-foolery?
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@Double_R
@IwantRooseveltagain
This paragraph from From Heather Cox Richardson "Letters from and American"..Aug 11th
....."It seems we are reaping the fruits of the political system planted in 1968, when the staff of Republican presidential candidate Richard Nixon reworked American politics to package their leader for the election.
...“Voters are basically lazy,” one of Nixon’s media advisors wrote. “Reason requires a high degree of discipline, of concentration; impression is easier.
...Reason pushes the viewer back, it assaults him, it demands that he agree or disagree; impression can envelop him, invite him in, without making an intellectual demand…. When we argue with him, we…seek to engage his intellect…. The emotions are more easily roused, closer to the surface, more malleable.”....
...Reason pushes the viewer back, it assaults him, it demands that he agree or disagree; impression can envelop him, invite him in, without making an intellectual demand…. When we argue with him, we…seek to engage his intellect…. The emotions are more easily roused, closer to the surface, more malleable.”....
Most of these MAGA's have no idea what it means to ' reason ', ergo, 60 million votes for Trumpet last time. Their in denial of obvious truths, because they, the like other 60 million, lack the ability to ' reason ', or choose to be a troll. No new news there. It is lack of morality, Rebels without a cause, logic, common sense critical thinking.
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The Phish experience in NY 2012. The band that can sound like any band that every existed should they choose to do so.
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I dunno. It is inherent, { apriori } consideration for all of you five or more points. I dunno. Sorry, just trying to be wholisitically considerate.
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Spirit-4 = Gravity aka mass-attraction/contraction ergo inwards towards each other 0 >>> <<<< 0
Or we could say bilateral conscious-ness ia attracted to bilateral conscious-ness ( * *) >>> <<< ( * * )
Birds of a feather stick together. Tho we also know that these two can repel from each other.
Overall tho, humans seek out attention from other humans. Yes?
Two hemi-spheres of brain is most complex consciousness we know of with female woman X x being more complex that man X y in two ways.
So we have two-ness of hemi-sheres and we have two-ness of the most simple element of Universe, the Spirit-2, hydrogen atom i..e proton { p } >>> <<< electron { e } via a third aspect the electro-magnetic charge between those two. 0 > +++ > < +++ < 0 wherein +++ = the precessed { at 90 degrees to each other two sine-waves } electro-magnetic photons.
However, Gravity has to be included in this latter set of threen-ness ergo, the following iconi-graphic includes Gravity ( )
(e) > +++ > <+++ <(p) ergo a four-ness. However, if we see this four-ness as one version of a minimal set, there is still one aspect that is being not included and that is the back-ground { fifth-ness } that has to be considered also. So here is the background as dots........
.....(o) > +++ > < +++ <(o)...... and that may not be the best way to present them, yet it does cover the basic set of five-ness in regards to simplest element of Universe, hydrogen.
Perhaps the electro-magnetics field { Spirit-2 } should be presented another way.
.....( + e + )> > < < <( + p + )..... yes I like this presentation better as the EMR field surrround electron { e } and proton { p }, howver, we have to consider that, the proton is composed of three quarks { 000 } so it may be better to present the following way
.....( + e + ) >>> <<<( + 000 + )...... ha has, it appears were doing texticonic formulaic presentation and now I count six significant aspects:
quarks { ooo } ---occupied space Spirit-2---- tho since three of them maybe we should say 7 aspects of wholistic consideration
electron { e } , ---occupied space Spirit-2---
EMR charge { photons } ---occupied space Spirit-2---
Gravity ( ) --occupied space Spirit-3
background and we say truly non-occupied space ergo spirit-less as that which exists outside of our finite, occupied space Universe
Again, putting aside any other parts of occupied space Universe and only considering hydrogen existence, we have at minimum 7 aspects to complete { most wholistic } consideration. Yes? No?
Well based on my cosmic explorations via numerical pattern, I would say that we should include in Spirit-4 Dark Energy )( as in saying, that, Dark Energy and Gravity are two sides of the same coin, and cannot exist alone, even as the scale of a single simple element like hydrogen ergo, 8 is would be the minimal set in this above scenario. Understand?
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Yeah you and my wife repeat Michelle Obama for president. I agree, tho we know it is not going to happen ergo, we have to be practical.
Biden is practical ergo, his being the #1 choice last time, and this time around also.
The man has so much experience in the field of politics.
I would say is VP {Kamal Harris } is the weakest link and yet also a strongest link, and that is why he chose her.
..." But the only thing worse for Democrats than having her on their 2024 ticket might be trying to replace her. "No matter the pains taken to act with the utmost delicacy, any move to bypass Harris either as a presidential candidate or as a successor to the office will produce a firestorm of criticism and accusations of gender and ethnic bias."
...Critics are exaggerating Harris' faults There's no denying that Harris' "time spent within a heartbeat of the presidency has not gone as well as Harris might have hoped," said Alex Shephard in The New Republic. She's trapped in a job defined by the limitations of being second fiddle. "...
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Be born a white male in USA or any first world country i.e. success is relative to the environment we find ourselves in.
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You, me, RM, Deb-8-a-bull, and Mps1213 should record a video of us singing that song.I look just like Steve Martin.
Is RM still here? Haven't seen him post in a week or so? If you saw the initial music vid in this thread Ice Ice It Baby, then I identify RM with that vid. Maybe not.
What vid Poetry in Motion can we assign to FLRW? Go to 2:25 > and ask your self if your are akin to Bob Dylan in a song that he wrote, and Jimi Hendrix made famous.
Here is a version done on an Asian instrument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOKZxQDcjpY
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