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@Greyparrot
Meet the new Trump, same as the old one.

This above is the buffoon the hill ' lmasoo'. Orange-Gray-Parrot, please share when you have logical, common sense critical thinking attributes to offer.

60 million buffoons voted for Trumpet and 50% have no idea that they are buffoons. The proof of that is this Trumpet thread, that, is about saving face with Trumpet, via Bidens documents in garage, as if the two are identical scenarios.

Typical lack of logical common sense critical thinking by orange Trumpeteer cult.  They cannot distingush the differrence between left and right shoe, because in their illogical minds,  they both have shoe laces. 


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@Greyparrot
For some people, Biden can do no wrong. Those people deserve the kind of corrupt government we have today that exploits everyone not part of DC government.

I think you and 60 million others still in Trumpet mode.

Biden is not Trumpet. Those who are Lmasooo are doing so, because they have not valid comments to offer, so all they can do is laugh at themselves for their own ignorance of the differrence between the most immoral and corrupt president ever {Trumpet } and Biden.

You and the Trumpet cult followers who lmasoo off our like the buffoon on the the hilltop who lacks any logical common sense or critical thinking.
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Cosmic Connections { associations? }:--)

1} We have no direct evidence that biologic life ( * ) came from before where there was none, ergo, to best of our knowledge biologic life is eternally existent.

2] We have no evidence that our finite, occupied space Universe (@) came from where before there exists only truly non-occupied space, ergo, to best of our knowledge Universe has existed eternally, with some black hole eggs encoding all that exists, including complex ( * I * ) biologic life.

..." The genetic code includes 64 possible permutations, or combinations, of three-letter nucleotide sequences that can be made from the four nucleotides. Of the 64 codons, 61 represent amino acids, and three { 3 } are stop signals. "

64 + 2 poles of the system LINK  = 66  --see 12 vertexes have 66 lines-of-relationship---

66.4 = Cosmic Pi-Time ---i.e. Pi^3 { XYZ or abc } minus P^4 { d or time } = 66.4---

66 lines-of-relationship exist for 12  --aka 3 * 4--   vertexes or nodal events aka points on 4-fold  cubo-octahedron { VE } aka Vector Equilibrium aka Operating System of Universe, and, 66 lines-of-relationship exist for 12 vertexes of the 5-fold icosa{20}hedron

66.4 / 3.14 15 92 65..... = 21.13 57 7 64 66 75....

21.13 57 7 64 66 75 / 7 = 3.01 93 96 63.... 

7 = agent of change via its irrational angle,s 128.7 of a regular and convex hepta{7}gon 

128.7 / 7 = 18.38 57 1 42 85 7 14 28 5 71 42 8 5714 repeat all eternally except for the initial stable 3 on irrational side of decimal

3 = structural integrity via 60 degreeness  /\ and is stability

4 = systemic integrity via 90 degreeness  [  ] and is transformation  LINK

4-fold Vector Equlibrium has 7 axi via di-polar set of  8 surface triangles /\ ergo, 4 diametric axi of spin  and,
...the 6 surface squares [  ] of VE, ergo 3 diametric axis of spin, so we have here, only 7 surface associated axis, of VE's total 25 axi.

(@) = eternally regenerative, finite, occupied space Universe, ergo, begin with the whole and no parts can be excluded from our consideration.

What is the minimal number that can represent the greatest whole? 7?

24 circumferential (  ) chords  = rhombic dodecahedron LINK and it is dual to the Vector Equlibrium with its 24 circumferential  (  )  chords

Rhombic Tricontahedron LINK  has 60 circumferntial chords. Thats still short of 64 codons and Cosmic Absolute Pi-Time 66.4

But how many total axis does it have? 30 + 15 + 8 = 53 ergo 53 great circles, however, that is still not as much as the total of the 4-fold VE and the 5-fold [ left and right-skew set } of 25 { 4-fold } + 62 { 5-fold ]. Minus 14 that are congruentlly reduntant, leaves 73, and 73p is a prime number. 73 is the 21st sequential prime number.  Is that a good number to call our most wholistic set to keep in mind, in relation to 64 codons, 66.4 Pi-TIme?

Egg/ovum (o) aka X x

Spermazoa <----  aka X y

...." The DNA of life on Earth naturally stores its information in just four key chemicals — guanine, cytosine, adenine and thymine, commonly referred to as G, C, A and T, respectively." However RNA has uracil instead of thymine, ergo, enter a key consideration for our search for cosmic meaning of number 5.

3 = structural integrity /\ triangle 60 degree-ness

4 = systemic integrity [  ] square 90 degree-ness

5 = alternative{?} integrity

6 = regular purity integrity  --four of these planes define the Vector Equlibrium and first dual /\  /\  of structural integrity

7 = agent of change integrity

8 = the first dual [  ][   ] of systemic integrity see

9 =

10 =

11 =

12 =




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@TWS1405_2
Reading comprehension matters.

So does moral integrity and neither you nor Trumpet have any.
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Science Without Gobbledygook
Human extinction. End-date 2232 give or take 50 years, is my speculation, that, I originally had calculated the end-date to be by 2015 { give or take 50 years }.

Here is Hossenfelders thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQVgt5eFMh4
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@zedvictor4
Don't stop overthinking
(@) = complex Universe....( * I * ) = complex biologic life ergo 64 codons etc

64 codons code for 20 amino-acids

20 divided by the previous { see bottom below } 5.007 = 4 approximately

4 great circles define Vector Equilibrium { OS of Universe } and composed of 12 vertexes ---as is the 5-fold icosa{20}hedron--- ergo 66 lines-of-relationship,

66 lines-of-relationship is close to  66.4 Cosmic Pi-Time via P^4 { XYZ-time {45 degree vector},  or as abc-diagonal { 45 degree vector}  minus Pi^3 { XYZ aka abc }

Ok, so these are very loose associations , yet they perk my instincts. Perhaps I'm just looking to hard to find some cosmic connections. I dunno. Oh yeah, 14 nodal events have 91 lines-of-relationship  --as found in my quantum space-time torus--  the truncated di-pryamid that defines 3-3-3 triangles ergo a tube, that, is nucleated at each end ergo 4-3-4 and without my 2D lattice in front of me to recall why three more nodal events, to total 14, I have to trail off to go find that pathway of consideration.

 H,mm, for heck of it, I just dared to be naive and subtracted 66 from 91 and got 25. 25 great circles of the VE?  Yeah, this stuff really perks my instincts. Only thing I dont see here is the 87-73 primary great circles :--))
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8.1 48 61 95 14 98 is sq root of my Cosmic Pi-TIme 66.4 ----64 codons plus additive two poles = 66----

8.1 48 61 95 14 98 minus 3.1 41 59 26 53 58 { Pi } = 5.0 07 02 68 59 18 ---we have meaning of 3 and 4, what of 5?----

VE = 4-fold  Operating System { systemic integrity } of Universe and defined by four great conceptual circles ergo 4 sets of transcendental Pi associated great circles

3 = systemic structural integrity aka triangle /\ 2D area

3 { integral symmetry } + 4 { integral symmetry } = 7p { irrational angle of heptagon 128.571 4 28 57....>......

3p + 2p = 5p { 108 degree internal angles of pentagon ergo integral symmetry }

3p + 3p = 6 { regular purity as 6 equal radius circles around a nuclear 7th ergo integral symmetry with nucleus }

5-fold icosa{20}hedron triangle faces ---so what is cosmic meaning of 5
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Pi^4 {XYZ-d or t } minus Pi^3 { XYZ } = 66.40 28 1 43 53 70 34 37 23 64 40 33 26 88 70 5

66.4 / 5 = 13.28

66.4 * 5 = 332

66.4^5 = 1 290 744 837.89824

66.4 + 5 =  71.4

66.4 - 5 = 61.4



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@Best.Korea
How do you determine "Black" Doc?
..."Research indicates that the concept of “five races” does, to an extent, describe the way human populations are distributed among the continents—but the lines between races are much more blurred than ancestry testing companies would have us believe (Figure 1B) "...



Killings by police have risen irregardless of race. Population has risen also so that is one factor of  many.

The facts can be relatively simple. The factors behind those factors can be complex to decipher, to some degree or another.


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@Tradesecret
That makes logical sense.  Obviously before there was life, there could be none.  Although it is an argument from silence.
Yout dont understand.  We have no evidence of any orgins of bioologic life. All we know is, that it exists, ergo, to best of our knowledge it has existed eternally, since we have no evidence of and origin. Understand?
 

ebuc...We have no evidence that our finite, occupied space Universe (@) came from where before there exists only truly non-occupied space.
Perhaps, but isn't that an argument from silence.  Pretty weak argument. 
Huh? You dont seem to grasp the 1st law of thermodynamics, naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed eternally and this translates over to our finite occupied space Universe. Understand? It is simple.

Doesn't all of that simply suggest that the universe and life is not random?
It suggests, what Ive repeatedly pointed out in this forum and others for 25 or more years.  Our finite, occupied space Universe is eternally regenerative, and eternally complemented by physical laws and cosmic principles. Random is moot point.  There is no randomness or chaos, there is only humans inability --for various reasons---, to find the cause and effect order at ultra-macro and ultra-micro scales of existence.

And that some kind of law, whether that be mathematical or other existed that exists in the very fabric of everything?
The two complement each other. Occupied space Universe complemented by physical { cosmic } law and cosmic principles


  How did said mathematical equations and laws evolve?
They do not evolve. Where do you get such a silly idea? Eternally existent. Simple. No need to make what is simple unnecessarily complex. It is an ego thing to do so.
Or did they originate and remain consistent from the beginning.  
There is not origin and there is no beginning. You dont seem to grasp the simplicity of eternal existence.Both occupied space and the complementary cosmic laws and cosmic principles. Simple. Not complex to grasp. All else is just ego fluffing

One of the interesting things about some people relying so heavily on evolution is - it didn't include the scientific laws and physics and mathematics in its framework. I wonder why that is the case?  That some things appear to evolve or grow and mature, and others things just somehow "randomly" came into existence or were perhaps always there?

The only direct evidence we have of evolution is with bacteria, and I dunno if there is clear evidence of that evolution being only lateral, or,

complex-to-simple. If it is simple-to-complex bacteria evolution, please show me the evidence. 


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@zedvictor4
And sometimes it's easy to overthink and thereby overlook the distinction between the two levels of internal function.

Ive been accused of overthinking stuff many a time.  I may do that with my cosmic explorations of cosmos, biology, geometry and numerical associations.

I dare to be naive, as I never had overly educated set of circumstances. ..... ' My educations was one of the biggest impediments to my learning '...A Einstein

Biologic dogma:
DNA { 64 codons includes RNA } > RNA { mRNA, rRNA, tRNA }, > Protein { 20 amino acids defined by 61 codons }

Cross-over transitional dogma to Meta-space:
innate > instinct/intuition > fight or flight good or bad { ex putrid/decay smells = bad }

Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts dogma:
ego > common sense > logic > critical thinking > 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 etc

Cosmic dogma:
Universe { gravity and dark energy whole } > black holes { gravity and dark energy{?} coding egg and seed }  > quantum entanglement { gravity and dark energy{?} ultra-micro lines-of-relationship coheres }





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@Sidewalker
every month, on a Wednesday at precisely 2:00 PM, Eglin was crashing it and just telling us it's none of our business why,

I been past Eglin once years ago.  Familliar with the difficulty getting through to anyone of authority to make a differrence.

The next time there is a large power outage where you live, pay attention to how it makes you feel mentally, you'll notice a deep feeling of serentity,

I think that has less to do with EMR fields and more to do with less mechanical noise occuring in our immediate environment ---refrigerator motor, AC units, beeping this or beeping that-- ex less traffic.

Not discounting EMR effects, just there minimal compared to noise pollution.
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@Sidewalker
But hey, if you want to worry about telecom interfering with weather forecasts, go for it, whatever floats your boat. 

Again, I dont know how old the vid is.   I had just watched it, and it was all new to me, so I posted to Science and Nature. Thanks for your consideration Sidewalker.

5G has been with us a while now, and Ive not seen any or much front page news coverage of this issue. And then she goes into 6G.

Humans have effects on their ecological environment.  More humans, with less and less consideration of the ecology that sustains them. have greater, if not more detrimental effects, that, require fixes. 


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@zedvictor4
Instinct is subconsciously stored operational information.
Zed, got it on the button head there.  If we here a large bang, or zinging noise, some will instinctively duck there head lower in case it is bullet flying through the air.

Instincts and common sense are similar.


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@zedvictor4
No such think as Native American.

Native implys birth place nation or continent etc. If i'm from Suffolk then I'm native of Suffolk Britain etc.
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@FLRW
Is this about Science without Trump?

All science is without Trumpet :--)
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@Sidewalker
I can tell you she is just being an alarmist,

She presents both sides of the story from reputable sources, as best as I discern, from my short viewing of her vid.

I think she is pragmatist who is very consider of seemingly reputable sources in many of her vids. Shes is very smart and hangs out with lot of other smart people ex Roger Penrose. I dont know if she has shared stage with Leonard Susskind.

Over caustionary  may be considered alarmist. Considering reputable sources for information does not appear alarmist to me.

Also, I dont know the date of vid, so perhaps all of those frequency related weather concerns have bee addressed, as you state. I dunno
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@Lemming
I agree Lem. Word woman is of anglo-saxon origin as many of our words we use today.

1} Etymology. From Middle English womman, wimman, wifman, from Old English wīfmann (“woman”, literally “female person”), a compound of wīf (“woman, female”, whence English wife) +‎ mann (“person, human being”, whence English man).

2} Etymology. From Middle English wombe, wambe, from Old English womb, wamb (“belly, stomach; bowels; heart; womb; hollow”), from Proto-West Germanic *wambu, from Proto-Germanic *wambō (“belly, stomach, abdomen”).

Anglo-saxxon England was middle ages aka dark ages. 1066 > 410 AD

See Free on Roku channel Hidden Lost Hidden Treasures.... the Sutton Hoo story of buried Saxon kings boat and treasures found in 1939 with lots historical information for that period of time.

.."The Saxons (Latin: Saxones, German: Sachsen, Old English: Seaxan, Old Saxon: Sahson, Low German: Sassen, Dutch: Saksen) were a group of Germanic[1] peoples whose name was given in the early Middle Ages to a large country (Old Saxony, Latin: Saxonia) near the North Sea coast of northern Germania, in what is now Germany.[2] In the late Roman Empire, the name was used to refer to Germanic coastal raiders, and as a name similar to the later "Viking".[3] Their origins are believed to be in or near the German North Sea coast where they appear later, in Carolingian times. In Merovingian times, continental Saxons had been associated with the activity and settlements on the coast of what later became Normandy. Their precise origins are uncertain,"
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Sabine is theoretical physicist a professor in Sweden and a pragmatist. Here is interesting stuff on 5G and meteorological accuracy that I new nothing about.


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@Lemming
What a cr@p definition of woman

Lem, I agree, Woman is short for person with a womb and that most often requires and X x combination. y chromosomes to dont have genetics for womb is my best guess.

A womb often includes egg/ovum producing capabilities.

Womb/uterus, fallopian tubes gg/ovum (o)...... <---spermazoa, testes, prostate gland

Hermphrodites/inter-sex of course complicate the above two sets
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Always consider the source of our information.

...."Black people were 24% of those killed by police in 2022 despite being only 13% of the population. "...

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@Intelligence_06
Ah yes, biology progresses to decide on whether a set of legal rules should be passed by the country or not. Definitely what science is made to do.
Science, is just another name for logical, common sense critical thinking based on empirical evidence.

Communicating cardiac cells is just another conspiracy for those who like to espouse  false narrative  attacks with logical, common sense and  critical thinking knowledge.
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In following I consider sq root of 66.4 for first time.

6 equal radius circles or spheres around the nuclear 7th OOO O OOO

6 = purity/regular/symmetry, however, i do take note that, dividing by 7p { nucleus of purity } induces periodic repeating regularity of seeming random-ness  --- 47p may be agent of all chaos and randomness via B Fullers 45 degrees of  trigonometric limit is all that is needed to calculate all that exists---

66.4 = my Cosmic Pi-Time

In following  with my XYZ, 3rd powering of Pi { Pi^3 } I look to consider the first occurrence of the overall 7th position. That may be totally illogical since it includes both whole number side of decimal and the irrational/factional side.

66 / 7 =  9.42 85 7 1 42 85 71 42 85 71 42 85.....here the 7th overall position is the number 1, a repetitively closed system

66.4 / 7 = 9.48 571 4 28 57 14 28 57 14 28 57 1...here the overall 7th position is number 4....a repetitively closed system In following set of divisors of 66, if we discount 1 and 66 were left with 6 { purity } divisors 1..2p..3p...6...11p....22.....33......66 = a total of 8 divisors.

The square root of 66.4 is 8.14 861 9 51 49 85 35 and this is first time Ive ever looked at this. First thing that comes to mind is Pi { 3.14 } ergo, that is increase of 5 digits over Pi's 3.14...........

8.14 minus 5 = 3.14 { Pi }.  I'm still looking for the correct significant identifying meaning for number 5.

66.4 / 3 = 22.13 33 3 33 33...

3 prime structure via triangulation { 60 degree-ness } as any carpenter can attest to stabilizing a square/cubical residence, see 8 surface triangles of Vector Equilibrium aka cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron ergo 4 diametric axi,

4 systemically transformative --- as seen with four axi above--, however, the systemically transformative only occurs with the 3 diametric axi of the 6 surface unstable squares { 90 degree-ness },

5 prime ----? cosmic meaning ?----

6 regular { 2D nucleated purity 120 degrees } circles/sphericals defined 6 regular triangles of convex hexagon, around an nuclear 7th regular circle/spherical,

7 prime, irregular irrational polygon 128.57 degrees whereas the other first nine convex polygons have whole rational angles

Here below, number 6 is nucleus of the hexagon 3p, 5p, 7p, 9, 8, 4.

3p is nucleus of hexagon 0, 1, 5p, 6, 4, 2p

....1.....................5p..........7p.....................11p.........13p........................17p...........outer surface
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0................................6.......................................12.............................................18..peak inside tube
..............3p..................................9...........................................15.............................peak inside tube
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........2p............4....................8.........10.............................14p........16......................inner surface

Physical Reality is always the nucleus of any quantum space-time torus, except in those ultra-brief  moments when sine-wave of reality may enter into outer surface positive curvature Gravity field, follow geodesic  around to re-enter  inside the tube via inner negative curvature Dark Energy negative field.

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We are each conceived without a heart.

..."  To wit: though pulsing cells can be detected in embryos as early as six weeks, this rhythm — detected by a doctor, via ultrasound — cannot be called a “heartbeat,” because embryos don’t have hearts. What is detectable at or around six weeks can more accurately be called “cardiac activity,” says Robyn Schickler, OB/GYN and fellow with Physicians for Reproductive Health. The difference between “cardiac activity” and “heartbeat” may seem linguistically minimal, but Schickler and others argue otherwise. At this stage, she says, what doctors can detect is essentially communication between a group of what will eventually become cardiac cells. https://www.thecut.com/2019/05/embryos-dont-have-hearts.html
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@Tradesecret
In the existence that exists, why did the non-life evolve to a life form?
We have no evidence that biologic life ( * I * ) came from before where there was none.

We have no evidence that our finite, occupied space Universe (@) came from where before there exists only truly non-occupied space.

..." The genetic code includes 64 possible permutations, or combinations, of three-letter nucleotide sequences that can be made from the four nucleotides. Of the 64 codons, 61 represent amino acids, and three are stop signals.

64 + 2 poles of system = 66

66.4 = Cosmic Pi-Time ---Pi^3 } { XYZ/abc minus P^4 { dt } = 66.4---

66 lines-of-relationship exist for 12  --3 * 4--   vertexes or nodal events aka points

66.4 / 3.14 15 92 65..... = 21.13 57 7 64 66 75....

21.13 57 7 64 66 75 / 7 = 3.01 93 96 63....

7 = agent of change via irrational angles 128.7 of a regular and convex heptagon 

128.7 / 7 = 18.38 57 1 42 85 7 14 28 5 71 42 8 5714 repeat all eternally except for the initial stable 3 on irrational side of decimal

3 = structural integrity via 60 degreeness  /\ and is stability

4 = systemic integrity via 90 degreeness  [  ] and is transformation  LINK

4-fold Vector Equlibrium has 7 axi via di-polar set of  8 surface triangles /\ ergo 4 diametric axi of spin  and 6 surface squares [  ], ergo 3 diametric axis of spin

(@) = eternally regenerative, finite, occupied space Universe, ergo, begin with the whole and no parts can be excluded from our consideration.

What is the minimal number that can represent the greatest whole? 7?

12 + 2  14  = rhombic dodecahedron LINK and it is dual to the Vector Equlibrium

Rhombic Tricontahedron LINK

.." The rhombic triacontahedron is somewhat special in being one of the nine  --3 * 3---  edge-transitive convex polyhedra, the others being the five Platonic solids, the cuboctahedron, the icosidodecahedron, and the rhombic dodecahedron.

....The rhombic triacontahedron is also interesting in that its vertices include the arrangement of four Platonic solids. It contains ten tetrahedra, five cubes, an icosahedron and a dodecahedron. The centers of the faces contain five octahedra.

....It can be made from a truncated octahedron by dividing the hexagonal faces into 3 rhombi:"...

Egg/ovum (o)

Spermazoa <----

...." The DNA of life on Earth naturally stores its information in just four key chemicals — guanine, cytosine, adenine and thymine, commonly referred to as G, C, A and T, respectively.

....Now scientists have doubled this number of life’s building blocks, creating for the first time a synthetic, eight-letter genetic language that seems to store and transcribe information just like natural DNA...."



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*fare

Perhaps etymology root. I dunno

Fare the well for I must leave thee, do not let this parting grieve thee.

Euro-indian is large language group that *fare may be a predecessor of.  My best guess.

C grade in gym glass may have been my peak grad ever. I dont recall

AI obviously is going to surpass in many ways.  AI scours the net and finds our comments to add to its collective Borg. Yes?

Ive been thinking of ..save our integrity... phrase. No one knows how it will play out. In 70's, a common theme was Mad Max future.

50's ...60's....70's.....80's....90's.....2000.....20010.......2020   (> *<)  i  (> * <)...... a texticonic bug in our rug

Its a rug race out there :--)).....((--: the electronic data-noid........vs the bilateral brain{s} ..we are family, Ive got all my.....Sorry, beginning here,  i dont know rest of words to the song.

Where is my integrity, as I walk in the moonlight?  Where did my integrity go to?  Was I right, was I wrong { David Byrn }.

K. Michael....... Bye
 

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All pushing-ouwardt <)(> phenomena is a resultant of pulling-inward phenomena (> <) and the moral behind the story is, eternally regenerative Universe (@) = ultimately complexity as our finite, occupied space Universe

(@) > ( * I  * ) > access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and  i/idenfier ego ergo morality purpose etc

Which came first, the egg/ovum  ( o )  or the spermazoa <--?
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@zedvictor4
And now there's 8 billion f**king the place up, and bible bashers worrying their arses off about an abortion or two.
Crazy but true.

Yeah Zed, you correct. Their mostly nutters and semi-nutter who lack education, logic, common sense and critical thinking practices. End date 2232

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@sadolite
I have never been happy when I had no money.
Youve never been without money so your dont know.

Life can be made easier, and that has little to do with happiness.  The standards of living today are so far beyond Kings of 800 years ago, yet, do find happiness with all people with standards of living beyond that of the Kings? Of course not.  You rarely use logic, common sense and critical thinking.
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@WeaverofFate
...it leads to the radicalization of people towards leftism...

Your clueless as survival of humanity is not a political issue. It is an issue of integrity, starting with leadership.

Over population of the operating systems we have in place, to main our standards of living is leading humanity to extinction.

My guess is, that, it will be pressures become so great there is going to loss of moral integrity in some leadership positions will be comprimised --or overrun by those with little to know moral integrity and hydrogen bombs will be released.  2232 give or take 50 years.


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@Sidewalker
My comment was tongue in cheek of course,
Ok not foot in mouth. Glad  you came back.

if you could only get past your ego to grasp the noumenon
I am, and this is self evident in my Cosmic Trinary Set. Old news

and the internal external, inside outside, temporary permanent , finite infinitely quadralateral hexagonic rectangular triangle, then you would understand that.

Huh? I think you over education ---along with ego--  has gotten in the way of following rather simple, logic, common sense critical pathways of thought, over many years, expressed with bad grammar many times, as i do this on the fly so much of the time, because pressed for time, tired etc.

' my education has been one of the biggest impediments to my learing '...paraphrasining Einstein

Since my formal education didnt do much for me, Ive needed to --or chose to-- fall back on abililty to see, read, listen and use logic, common sense critical thinking pathways of thought. Please,   if and when you want to start with the whole --Cosmic Trinary Outline/Set--- and find a conceptual error, please share with the specific comment you feel is in error.

Ive also laid out the fundamental trinary sub-set of occupied space Universe in several posts in this thread. My speculations.

(@) = Occupied space Universe as ultimate whole of complexity

(   )(   ) = bisection of 3D torus, that, is a vector { magnitude and direction } that I apply to each of Bucky Fullers 2d, 87-73 primary great circles and any addditional 2ndary, trinary etc inductive{?} further axis spinning sets LINK

(* *) = bilateral, biologic/soul consciousness as an  integral

(* i  *) = bilateral consciousness with access to i { ego }

)( * I * )( = bilateral consciousnss with Meta-space integrity that is has ears and eyes open

Here is the primary set  or our occupied space Universe as three-ness

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

Here is primary set as two-ness i.e. physical sine-wave reality has briefly dissapated out of the scene

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

It may be, that, since the sine-wave has two peaks, that, one of the peaks enters Gravity field (<-    ), and travels the gedesic to pop out of Dark Energy field     <-)(,  before the other peak has entered the Gr field. Only in this way can we say that, sine-wave reality has not totally dissipated from inside the toroidal space toroidal tube. 

These are rough draft concepts and there others who there own ideas, that, search of scenarios where Universe is not truly expanding, i.e. we dont fully understand what is going on with Universe. Now I'm late for time date.

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Time and space are just concepts relative to conceptuality.

Ive laid it for years in simple texticonic expression

......space(> * <) i   (> * <)space.... i = Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego identifier

......space(> time <) i  (> time <)space......is old news for those who seek the esssential primary truths of what exists.

Is Hossenfelder the new pin-up for 2023.
Yes reagrding integrity of Meta-space mind/intellect/concept

Without a greater integrity from our leaders, humanity is doomed by 2232. Old news.

What I dont have yet is a symbol of and i { ego } with integrity  ( * I  * )

(@) = Universe

( * I * )  = save our integrity 

>(* I *)<  = save our integrity

)(*I*)(  = eyes and ears open, save our integrity



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@WeaverofFate
We have too many people on Earth, ---aka over population--  for the operating systems we have in place, to maintain these standards of living, that, produce so much unnecessary stuff,  live easy life, find happyiness, and not degradate the ecological environment that sustains us all.

It is a complex global issues, not any one country. You dont yet grasp the issues of concern.

Erratic climate change is getting worse and we will see more and more drought even with more increased rain falling

People continue to move to deserts where there is no water and it is piplined in from rmountains > rivers > desert.

People continue to move into the forest worldwide. and forests catch fire

It the tundra thaws out enough the fires from those huge amount of northern forests will make Amazon buring look like campfire

We will see more flooding

pollution is getting worse

The bitter truth to humanities salvation, is to cease all births for one year minimum for starters.

Save our integrity requires leadership to have integrity.  USA has been leader of greenhouse gases since industrial age. Soviet Union may have been 2nd, the Europe , and then along came Chinas industrial age, along with India etc.  

Were talking global issues they requires integrity of entirety of humanity for humanity to survive beyond 2232. And that integrity needs to start with our leaders being smart and having integrity in all regards.


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The larger question humanity needs to confront to survive on Earth, is how do we save our integrity?

We have too many people on Earth, ---aka over population--  for the operating systems we have in place, to maintain these standards of living, that, produce so much unnecessary stuff,  live easy life, find happy-ness, and not degradate the ecological environment that sustains us all.

With out human value for individual integrity, and a desire for all to value a similar integrity --all for one and one for all---, humanity will perish on Earth, sooner rather than later.

Of course all of this above comes with education and leadership { the brain }, sending truth { correct } signals to the other body parts.  Aka having a shared set of integral values for concerns of humanity on  Earth as a whole, and not 150 or so differrent nations, each with their own agenda.
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@sadolite
I found it, just cant afford it.

Paraphrasing Tiger Woods first wife ---and many others---, ..' money doesnt buy you happiness, but it can make life easier '...

I recall a doc. and this older British gentleman talking about WW 2 in Britain and how when he looks back, it was one of the best times of his life, because of the camaraderie of all peoples of ever class pulling-together as one, to fight off the Nazis. 

Happiness comes from Spirit-1 Meta-space and Spirit-2 as biologic/soul, that, feeds off social camaraderie. The most happiness can occur only when all share the same spiritual high of ! ! !  Cheers ! ! !

! * * !....<* *>.....>* *<....(* *)....)* *(....(-  -).....- )( -....etc all for one and one for all, may not save humanity, but if humanity is to perish on Earth, it might be the most fun way to go.
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@zedvictor4
Hossenfelder.... Does the past exist.

No
I trust her answer to be more accurate than yours Zed.  Its the answer Ive heard to be true for many years, just that here vid added most clarity

Things occurred previously.
And related to present. its all relative.....related.....connected...via time  /\/\/  and space  (  )(  )

BIG BOOM maybe,
Initiating set of circumstances for that specific time period,  of and eternally existent, occupied space Universe.

Occupied space Gravity (  )
Occupied space Dark Energy )(, that, is related to dark inflation{?}

Then more of a WHOOSH and a ROAR.
Whoosh of air in atmosphere is due to vacuum sucking. What kind of vacuum may have caused bing bang whoosh?

All  pushing is resultant of pulling-in forces. Radiating sun is resultant of Gravity contraction of this and that to a collective spin center.

The truest vacuum is the truly non-occupied space, that exists outside of { Meta/Beyond } finite occupied space Universe.

Waving not booming.

Quantum fluctuations { QF }  in the  sine-wave /\/\/*\/*\/\./\./\ I first viewed in jest, as bilateral consciousness as the monkey wrench of QF in the EMRadiation sine-wave in those initiating circumstances, however, in 2021,  my  idea of time-as-realitiy sine-wave disspates,

into the outer positive curvature field of Gravity (-  -), only to travel on geodesics around the myriad of tube{s} surfaces, and  then,

pop-back out from the inner negative surface of Dark Energy -)(-  Inflation { Dark Inflation }.

This then is likened to a dipolar ---consciousness{?} as twoness--- of Gravity and Dark Energy. So here is new way of presenting this concept observable time {  - - }, dissipating into outer surface Gravitational field of nodal events, and then,  popping back out as observable time again, via the negative inner surface Dark Energy field.

(-     )(    -) >>> (    -)(-    ) >>> (  -  )(   -   ) >>> (-      )(     -)

..^.......^.............^.^................^......^............^...........^
Enter G............Exit DE.........O-Time.. ...........Enter G

The Observable Time { O-Time }  is our sine-wave of reality in route from Dark Energy field )( towards Gravity field (  ) in every toroddal, space-time quantum particle of Universe. So again, in this Cosmological Scenario, we have perception of expanding Universe only via the travel of sine-wave of reality from inner DE field to outer G field.

And for the briefest moment, all occupied space of observable sine-wave time vanishes, yet occupied space of G and DE quantum space tori,  ---(   )(   )---- never cease to exist, and they are inherently di-polar or bilateral basis for all fermions and bosons that we do observe { quantise and quantify }

So I have three Cosmic Scenarios Ive conceived in last 22 years.

1} in year 2000, the bilateral set of 5-fold icosahedra on each side of the flattened 4-fold Vector Equlibrium.... OIO...as the  initiating set of circumstances ergo ending-beginning phase

2} then around 2002 a linear, or 2D or 3D multiplicity of the above OIOIOIO wherin we the flattened { I } entropic phase aka Heat Death of Universe vai the flattened 4-fold Vector Equilibrium with the 87-73 or more primary great circles LINK --that around 2012 became 3D torodial vectors seen as great tubes of space-time tori,

3} 2020 or so the one of a perception of expanding Universe via sine-wave of reality moving from inner DE )( to outer Gr (  ).

In all of these scenarios, the coding for all that exists, or all that can ever exist, is embedded in the Geodesics of the quantum space tori Gr (  ) and DE )(, that will never be less than the 87-73 great 2D circls ergo 3D tubes of the joint set of 4-fold VE and 5-fold icosahedra.

Never less than two, and three-ness will include the sine-wave of reality.
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Here is the primary set as three-ness

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

Here is primary set as two-ness

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

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Our true New Year holy day begins on the day of our birth. Then we go four seasons around the sun.

great papa seeds-->(o)<---great mama

.................................( o )......great mama pregnant

...............................(   O   ).......uterus expands

.................................(v)..........uterus contracts

................................( X y )........out pops ebuc

.....!.....!....! Cheers all around Cheers ! ! !
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@zedvictor4
Eternally existent, side steps the impossible beginning.
Zed, you confuse initial set of circumstances --ergo the cyclic bing bang--- with some impossible something { occupied space }  from nothing { truly non-occupied spaced }. Why you would choose such a tack is always confounding to me. 

Of course, a beginning cannot have a cause because the cause requires a cause.
Occupied space from truly non-occupied space concept moots any disscussion of cause > effect > resultant

Notions such as finite occupied space and externally existent are simple.
Universe { (@) } is most complex set. 3a, 3b and 3c is the primary trinary sub-set of the one Universe. Simple

And ego is as ego does.
Thank  you Gumpy.  * I *  >>>>  IS >>> not even just IS >>>> IS >>>>> (@) eternally dynamic { undulating } LINK and other varied transformations. see my Cosmological scenarios thread that I never finnished the first scenario explanation.

Nonetheless, a happy new year.
I realized couple of days ago, my our true new year begins on our birthday.  We go four seasons --because of atmosphere and spin of planet--- as we orbit Sol., to our next new year on Earth
One more or one less trip around the Sun, depending upon how one chooses to look at it.
Perspective indeed. i'm finally beginning  to barely get my head around { not yet tho } speed-of-radiation from differrent observers. If you've not seen Sabine hossenfelders ' Does the Past Exist ' vid, --go to 2:30 LINK--- please check it out as her explanation of of time using a 45 degree angle { / } is interesting and it coincidentally is same as 4th-dimension diagonal { / } in Hyper-space

The complex Universe exists, if only as the Gravitational and Dark Energy field of nodal evnents on the surface space-tori,  coding of all that exists, or that can exist. i'm becoming more partial to the idea that our Universe is not truly expanding, rather, our perspective  changes due to every space-time tori of Universe changes.

It may be that, our sine-wave { /\/\/ } is reality  pops out from the inner set of surface nodal events associated with negative curvature of Dark Energy  )( ,

then our reality is moves toward the diametrically opposite set of surface nodal events of positive curvature of Gravity field (  ), then,

briefly ---because not sustain-able--  all of the sine-wave reality is in the Graviational field of events, the travels around in the geodesics ---1 >> 2p >> 4 >> 5p etc-- back to pop-out of Dark Energy field again and move toward the outer surface of all space-time tori again.  We only tune-in to the reality field and we have this sense of inflation and Dark Energy expanding our reality. 

Eternally doing so over and over and over etc.  Its just a thought


......1............enters..5p...here......7p.........enters here......11p.........Gravity field
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0-------------------^---------6----^---------------^-------------^-----------^--------reality
.................3p....^...................^.................^........9.........^.............^..........reality
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Do grades determine your intelligence?
Grade A eggs  --unless one is cracked or left out in warmer temperatures too long, then they become grade E---

Grade A students  --unless one is cracked and decides they want lower their intelligence abilities for various reasons. ex intimate relationships, behavioral issues, or any number of reasons to place grading system to the side, then they become grade E---

Grade A at paying attention class 

I was grade D and E for most part, with C and B in gym class. Intelligent enough in public school to learn how to read. That is key for all humans, yet, some manage without reading ability, but most dont fair as well.








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What is this meta-space where you say mind, intellect and concepts comes from?
Best to start with posting a comment I actually made ex #22

1} Eternally existent and complementary too  --to 2 truly non-occupied space and 3 occupied space below--- meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego { spirit-1 }

Meta-space
is complementary to truly non-occupied space and occupied space. There is nothing else for Meta-space to be complementary too. If and when  you, are any of the the pooh-poph can identify another that would be complementary to Metas-space, please share. You or they never will, because ive already done the logical common sense critical thinking pathways for these three primary catagories.

It is not going to happen by any of you.

Is it similar to Plato's theory of knowledge and reality? Something to the effect that mind, knowledge, and abstract thought transcends physical reality.
1} Eternally existent and complementary   -- too 2 truly non-occupied space and 3 occupied space below--- Meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego { spirit-1 }.

What part of that do you not grasp? Mind/intellect/knowledge and however many other synonyms we may choose to add.

Is beyond/Meta, ergo transcend may be a good synonym to use also.  Gravity and Dark energy are Meta-physical{ reality }. Meta-space is beyond occupied space reality and occupied space Gravity and Dark energy, as ive made clear for some ten years now. This rather simple to grasp, for those who choose logical, common sense, critical thinking.

Very rare here at DArt.
 
You also talk about outer and inner geodesics, which you seem to think is related to how the universe is shaped.

False. No where have I ever made such statements. Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe is composed of myriad set of overlapping, and interfering quantum space-time tori. been stating that for some ten years, or more.

Seems that also think the universe is shaped like a torus?
Yeah, well good for them, I' not and never been one of those. You havent read of what Ive posted in thread or many others.

Some articles that I have read suggest that majority think the universe is flat.
that is seperate unrelated issue to actual geometric shape of our eternally existsent, finite, dynamic, occupied space Universe.

Some studies seem to think the universe is curved based on how light would travel differently on flat plane than on a curved surface.
The outer, dynamic, gravitational perimeter of Universe is of course curved, and undulating etc. LINK to rough idea of undulating surface of Universe. Been posting that for over 20 years now.

Complex-to-simple is title of this thread. Start with the greatest whole, my Cosmic Trinary Set and no parts can be excluded. Few grasp the simple because there too over educated and this leads them to think they know better than those of us  who use rather simple, logical, common sense, critical thinking.

I addressed this last time in post #25.  




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Any celestial object with an spin, atmosphere, and orbits a sun, has four seasons. See post #9 Simple.

Sad did offer a semi-good effort with his set of four in #6.

Other than, few here interested in logical common sense, critical thinking dialogue.

I presented trinary subset of occupied space Universe twice now.

Most recent was post #22 to Sidewalker {sidestepper } who appears to infer that they are is clueless. to ebucs comments wherein we find 3a, 3b and 3c.

However, before that, I presented that first primary sub-set of Universe as again follows, and it is again, just another rendition  --of many ive formatted and reformatted--- for clarity over last 10 or more years:

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

This trinary sets is reflective of 3a, 3b and 3c.  Rather simple, but does require more clarity for those who dont grasp positive (  ) and negative curvature )( of a torus. perhaps even some around here do yet grasp the concept of a torus. 

There rendition --of the  old saying--,   that, you can lead a human dullard horse, or even a more educated science genius  horse,  to  logical, common sense critical thinking water hole, yet we cannot make them  drink that water.   This phenomena is related to Sadolites #4 in post #6 above.

...." 4) Psychological > The creation of self awareness "......this awareness is reflective of access to ego, logical, common sense and critical thinking.

Another way to perceive some of the phenomena in this thread, is Paul Neuman in his movie 'Cool Hand Luke ', where he states, ---just before the cops shoot him--- is, ..' what we have here, is failure to communicate '....

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I'm a dullard,
Ego creating false narrative much. Please share when you have something of significant relevance. You havent done that in single post in this thread. Ego in way much.

i = ego identifying integrity, that, does not truly die, yet can be placed to the side, to let in truth in, --or create a false narrative-- as some like to do with me---, however, occupied space biologic/soul can die, and only then does access to i { ego identifying integrity } truly die.

Eternally is a word I begin with in Cosmic Trinary Set, and no one understands what eternally means.  Yeah, because of their ego.

Some other fear truth of my using  logical common sense critical thinking, due to their ego.  So they created and infer a false narrative in my regards. Old news. Seen for years.

Sidewalker can also be perceived as side-stepper of logical, common sense, critical thinking, in regards to anything I say.
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@Sidewalker
If it makes you feel any better, I'm a f---ing math and science genius, and none of what he posted means anything to me either.
I posted no math in reply to you ergo, your ability to do math is irrelevant to the rather simple set three concepts Ive presented for some years now. Not too mention that half or more of the post to you was not even my word. Ergo more evidence of your ego in the way to logical, common sense, critical thinking.

I think it makes your ego feel better to make your comment above. Sad :--( When all else fails others always fall back on their ego { i } to save face.

This the basis of my Cosmic Trinary Outline/Set.

1} Eternally existent and complementary too  --to 2 and 3 below--- meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego { spirit-1 }

-----conceptual line-of-demarcation----

2} eternally existent as truly meta-occupied space i.e. truly-non-occupied space, outside  of the following,

3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe ---spirit-2, 3 and 4---.

...3a} spirit-2 physical reality of fermions, bosons and a new third set that is hybrid of those two, may be eternally existent, or briefly pop out and back into existence. This brief moment may be likened to the concept of virtual particle brief existence,

....3b}spirit-3,  eternally existent occupied space Gravity (  ),

.....3c} spirit-4, eternally existent, occupied space Dark Energy )(.

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Diametric unity is two radii


There exists only three regular, stable, triangulated and convex structures of Universe:

5-fold macro-icosa{20}hedron > 4-fold  medio-octa{8}hedron > 3-fold micro-tetra{4]hedron 

......LINK.....................................................LINK............................................LINK....

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@ILikePie5
@IwantRooseveltagain
Trumpet > Mark Meadows > kari Lake etc degrade human existence.

..." GOP Consultant On Kari Lake's Political Career: It's A Wrap In Arizona

Lake, a Trump-backed Republican who repeatedlycast doubt on the results of her gubernatorial election loss, announced that she would appeal the judge’s ruling. Earlier this week, she was also ordered to pay $33,000 in fees incurred by Gov.-elect Katie Hobbs (D) and her team.
Chuck Coughlin, an Arizona-based Republican consultant, told The Hill on Friday that Lake has caused herself harm as a result of the “degradation” of Arizona institutions. "...


What republicans dont care about institutions?  They have no moral or ethical integrity. No surprises there and that is why Trumpet got in an still mouthing off while running for GOP.  Nutcases most all of them. End date for humanity 2232 give or take 50 years


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..." GOP Consultant On Kari Lake's Political Career: It's A Wrap In Arizona

Lake, a Trump-backed Republican who repeatedlycast doubt on the results of her gubernatorial election loss, announced that she would appeal the judge’s ruling. Earlier this week, she was also ordered to pay $33,000 in fees incurred by Gov.-elect Katie Hobbs (D) and her team.
Chuck Coughlin, an Arizona-based Republican consultant, told The Hill on Friday that Lake has caused herself harm as a result of the “degradation” of Arizona institutions. "...


What republicans dont care about institutions?  They have no moral or ethical integrity. No surprises there and that is why Trumpet got in an still mouthing off while running for GOP.  Nutcases most all of them. End date for humanity 2232 give or take 50 years


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@Sidewalker
there needs to be a mental concept of “nothing”.

Good stuff all, however, there is one additional caveat to your above and our finite, occupied space existence of Universe, that,  you did not include and that is the truly macro-infinite non-occupied space outside of meta/beyond the finite occupied space aka Universe.

This the basis of my Cosmic Trinary Outline/Set.

1} Eternally existent and complementary to the below 2 and 3, meta-space mind/intellect/concept and ego { spirit-1 }

-----conceptual line-of-demarcation----

2} eternally existent as truly meta-non-occupied space, outside  of the following,

3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe ---spirit-2, 3 and 4---.

...3a} spirit-2 physical reality of fermions, bosons and a new third set that is hybrid of those two, may be eternally existent, or briefly pop out and back into existence. This brief moment may be likened to the concept of virtual particle brief existence,

....3b}spirit-3,  eternally existent occupied space Gravity (  ),

.....3c} spirit-4, eternally existent, occupied space Dark Energy )(.

Yes, I know the cosmological scenarios say Dark Energy came into existence some time after the initiating cyclic big bang.  I dont think that is the case. It could always exist an vary in its degree of intensity { magnitude }.

From Wiki so take with grain of salt ;--).... "Dark energy is broadly similar to inflation and is thought to be causing the expansion of the present-day universe to accelerate. However, the energy scale of dark energy is much lower, 10−12 GeV, roughly 27 orders of magnitude less than the scale of inflation. "

.." The cosmological constant is usually assumed to be, well, a constant. If it isn't, it can be more generally referred to as 'dark energy. "
https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/05/30/is-there-really-a-cosmological-constant-or-is-dark-energy-changing-with-time/?sh=2bfe3fbe78b5

..." Since it is the energy of space itself, then as space expands more dark energy comes into the universe, causing the expansion to accelerate ever faster. If dark energy is left unchecked, it is a scenario that could ultimately result in a Big Rip that would tear the fabric of space–time apart."...

To be clear, in the latter above, if Dark Energy is increasing, ---"more dark energy"--- then either the finite Universe is transforming, occupied space realty, Gravity or both into dark energy, because, naught { energy } cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed.

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@sadolite
Your a lucky man to know.
Know what exactly? Your maing inferences of something Ive certainly not made claim to.  More mental { Meta-space } masturbation on your part.

You have no interest in logical, common sense, critical thinking dialogue. Sad :--( Meta-space masturbation of the mind  can lead to Meta-space orgasims, tho not necessarily cosmic truths. Much of my cosmological scenarios are based on some truths, some facts and much specuclation. ' Dare to be naive '....Bucky Fuller

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

Four special number systems..." When you add, subtract, multiply or divide the “real numbers” used in everyday life, you always get another real number. Three generalizations of the real numbers also behave in this way. Many physicists believe that all four of these “division algebras” underlie the laws of physics. 


....' A generalized principle holds true in every case '....

...' Synergy discloses that the information to be derived from micro ---> macro educational strategy fails completely to predict the experimentally demonstrable gravitational or mass-attraction integrities of entropically irreversible, universal scenario reality.

229.06...' Humanity being a macro---->micro Universe, unfolding eventuation is physically irreversible yet eternally integrated with Universe. Humanity cannot shrink and return into the womb and revert to as yet unfertilized ova. '...

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...universe and everything in it was created.
Your still using illogical lack of common sense and lack of critical thinking.  When you have specific word or phrase you dont grasp, please post. Your playing mind masturbation games with self and other ergo, you not truly interested in having logical, common sense, critical thinking disscussion. Sad :--(

Whats the old adage from 50's sci-fi movies where, humans meet aliens who have just landed --ex Day the Earth Stood Still--- and dont understand them, so they say ..quick, shoot them...

Ive been very clear in many differrent formatted presentations over the years and in many differrent threads.  A myriad set of over-lapping and interfering space-time, 3D tori was just the lastest scenario as extrapolated out from synergetics great 2D circles, that explain all of the componet parts of quantum Universe. Yes, I would love to have better graphic depictions.

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

Its complicated. And with out access to better graphic aniamation programming, there is so much I cannot explore further with these over-lapping and interfering space-time tori
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@sadolite
@zedvictor4
That is the question, can science and math  explain something from nothing.

Where do you two get these illogical, lack of common sense, lack of critical thinking concepts from? Video fantasy games? Singularities? Null geodesic proved by Roger Penrose on Einsteins general relativty and S Hawkings consideratio of Universe from a singularity black hole? 

You two offer nothing of significance in these regards. 

........................................space(> * < ) i  (> * <)space..... .................................

i = ego based identity and access to those Meta-space concepts of " something from nothing " that are as illogical as an occupied space God that created Universe type scenarios. Masturbation of mind is fun, yes?

Eternally existent, yet finite, occupied space ergo eternally the complemented by maths.  Simple not to complex to grasp. It is the ego that gets in way of humans sometimes inability to see truth.

Outer Geodesics Space (  )--------------------->attractively coherent phenomena (  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )(  )
Observable Sine-wave Reality /\/\/~~~~~~> *  * bilateral access to Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts
Inner Geodesic Space )(-------------------------> repulsive resultant of too much attraction  )(  )(  )(  )

6 = purity/regular\symmetry, however, i do take note that, dividing by 7p { nucleus of purity } induces periodic repeating regularity of seeming random-ness { 47p }

66 / 7 =  9.42 85 7 1 42 85 714 28 57 14 285.....here the 7th overall position is the number 1, a repetitively closed system

66.4 / 7 = 9.48 571 4 28 57 14 28 57 14 28 57 1...here the overall 7th position is number 4....a repetitively closed system

In following set of divisors of 66, if we discount 1 and 66 were left with 6 { purity } divisors

1..2p..3p...6...11p....22.....33......66 = a total of 8 divisors

The square root of 66.4 is 8.14 86 19 51 49 85 35 and this is first time Ive ever looked at this. First thing that comes to mind is Pi { 3.14 } ergo, that is increase of 5 over Pi's 3.14...........

Number theory..." According to the German mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss (1777–1855), "Mathematics is the queen of the sciences—and number theory is the queen of mathematics."[1][note 1] Number theorists study prime numbers as well as the properties of mathematical objects made out of integers (for example, rational numbers) or defined as generalizations of the integers (for example, algebraic integers). ".....




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Ive found what i'm looking for many times in my life time. ive been lucky.

2 = unity

3 = structural integrity { stability } 60 degree-ness

4 = systemic integrity { 3D  transformative instability } 90-degree-ness

6 = purity { 6 around 1 equal-radius circles ergo nucleated 6 }

5 = a tough one for me to classify in such a way I feel confident of that conclusion. Since it is the first quasi-icosahedral, 3D phase of the contracting VE, Ive always thought it should be associated with Gravity. The VE primaryily contains 4-fold { octa } and 3-fold { tetra }, but not really a full on stable icosahedron.
.....the 10 great circles of the icosahedron do contain 5 overlapping VE four great circles. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/Lynn/LynnS54.html

7p agent of change { spin motion? } i.e. a diametric axis infers di-polar this or that ergo equatorial spin, contraction-expansion, torque/twist { and shout Happy New Year !!! }, precess'es  etc, as found with the Vector Equlibrium { VE } as it transforms on its its four --of 7-- surface axi.

.......47p my be cause of seeming random chaos of Universe, or so B Fuller speculated upon, since it is the first prime number after the 45 degree, trigonometric limit, that, is all that is needed to calculate the whole circle, or whole sphere, relatively speaking. since with sphere is would be one of 8 right-angled tetrahedra......

8 = intermediary and what ever that means, but same goes for a trapazoid on surface of various polyhedra that have many surface shapes, with the platonic and Archemedian set of polyhedra and their derivatives

9 = Chinese lucky number.  3 + 3 + 3 structural stability on steroids, so to say /\  /\  /\ and in synergetics 9 = 0, within certain conditions

10 = 45 lines of relationship

11 = 55 lines of relationship and the 10th or 11 number { 55 } in Fibonacci sequence. 55 protons of Cesium and is .."This silvery metal with a golden cast is the most reactive and one of the softest of all metals. " 
...6 * 11 = 66 and 66.4 is my Cosmic Pi-Time Absolute

12 = 66 lines of relationship and  the 4-fold VE and 5-fold icosa both have 12 vertexes.  12-around-1 spheres ergo 13th is nucleated 1

13 = 78 lines of relationship

14 = 91 lines of relationship


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All that occupied space existence is complemented by math{s} ergo numbers. Old news to those who have been paying attention over last 10,000 years or more.

Any celestial object with an atmosphere, that orbits a sun, has four seasons.

There exists four primary kinds of twoness:

Spin twoness .....................2 is additive { left-right } see Hyper-space's  Plus 2 above
Duality twoness.................2 is { concave-convex } multiplicative
Interrelationship twoness 2
Environmental twoness....2
....................................total 8


66.4 is my Cosmic abosolute Pi-Time. 3 = structural stability via 60 degree-ness of triangle /\

...90 degreeness of square ergo 4-ness = systemically transformative. 3 + 4 = 7 --irrational heptagon---

The 12-around-1 spheres of the Vector Equlibrium aka cub0octahedron, have 8 surface triangles { structure } and 6 surface squares { transformative }. Together these make 14 surfaces ergo 7 diametric axi,  ---and a pi related circumference to diameter--- and we may say, that, the transformative VE is the agent of change, or we may say that the 7 axi are the agent of change/time/motion/spin/contract/expand/inside-out/precess

Here below I chose to divide my Pi-TIme 66.4 or its rounded off version 66, by 7.  In the overall 7th position we find number 1 initial appearence, the numb 1 repeats of 6 decimal positions, eternally.  6 = 6-around-one circles ergo nucleated { 7th nuclear } purity

66 / 7 =  9.42 85 7 1 42 85 714 28 57 14 285.....here the 7th overall position is the number 1, a repetitively closed system

Next I take the 66.4 divided by 7 and in overall 7th position we find number 4, that, then repeats eternally every 6th { purity } position.

66.4 / 7 = 9.48 571 4 28 57 14 28 57 14 28 57 1...here the overall 7th position is number 4....a repetitively closed system

We may say, that, 7 --as impurity and agent of change-- is initiating transformation, to be followed by regularity eternally, or at least until the any local operative system crosses paths ---interference-- with another system, we may see the agent of change 7 axi of the VE being invoked.

Bucky Fuller refers to the Vector Equlibrium ---24 chords--- and its 25 Great Circle Railroad tracks as the operating system of Universe.  The cosmic Grand Central Station for all transformation.  http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate04.html

There is Zoom at bottom of URL to easier read doc. 


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