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@sadolite
How could anyone possibly have any kind of dialogue with such a insulting fucking asshole
Weve been over all this before, we each feel we have nothing of any value to offer each other, because, unlike you, I am not a trumpeteer cultist. If you feel insulted by truth, so be it.
#32....My restrictions are more concerned with my actions impacting others
ex erratic driving with other traffic, and yes that can occur if I was
on fire, or if i had slow death from cancer. If you still dont get this truth, then were back to the same ole place. Nothing of any value to say to each other.
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@sadolite
What restrictions and mandates should govt force on people to reduce the deaths from your selection.
My restrictions are more concerned with my actions impacting others ex erratic driving with other traffic, and yes that can occur if I was on fire, or if i had slow death from cancer.
Trumpet and trumpeteer actions have more direct and indirect detrimental impact on others in various ways, ergo sick in the head behaviours.
MRI brain scan would most likely show these abnormalities.
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@Sum1hugme
None of that means anything. You're just stringing random words together.
..."If we peer deeply into the brain, in other words, what we’ll find is
that electrochemical synapse firings—produced by neurons of various
types—are responsible for, as Koch puts it, the feeling of life itself,
consciousness."...
Ergo bilateral consciousness * * is based upon electro-mangetics fields ergo sine-wave patterns /\/\/ ergo the two inside lines { 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 } of the cosmic tori (>*<) i (>*<) Ive presented for some years now, in various threads, that sine-waves, are resultant of invaginations from outer peak of positive curvature { Gravity } and inner peak of negative curvature { Dark Energy }......space(>*<) i (>*<)space.........
outer....1.........................5p.........7p....................11p.........13p.........................17p..........
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.0.............................................6.....................................12............................................18 { 18 quarks and 18 anti-quarks }...
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inner............2p.........4...........................8........10..........................14............16.....................
( )( ) = equaltorial bisection/cross-esction of torus from side-view
( () ) = equaltorial bisection/cross-section of torus form birds-eye-view
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@Sum1hugme
None of that means anything. You're just stringing random words together.
False narrative because of your ego base set of mental blockages. Sad :--(
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@Vader
...It's not that government doesn't have the right to do such,...
They do not have any rights. Universe has cosmic principle and physical laws that limit human freedoms. Those who feel they need freedom to violate those cosmic aws and principles need to consult Universe/God.
Beyond that, it is all a 1} free for all set for humans to do whatever they want and any chaotic random disorderly way they choose to and face the consequences, or,
2] to choose more orderly organized ways of inter-acting that attempts regulation via human laws.
Free for all is who has most guns tells others what to do.
Organized governement is attempt at civilized way of creating a commonly shared set of fair/just and compassionate laws, that hopefully based on intellect and love of life.
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@Greyparrot
....Minimum wage is yet another fucked up power regulation...
The point is to have compassion for humans. A minimal standards set for living. If empathy centers are inactive then of course you will never understand.
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@Sum1hugme
Either we are choosing freely, or our choices are determined by an unbroken chain of events going back to the beginning of time.
Occupied space Universe is eternally existent. Observed { quantised/quantifiable } time aka our physical reality may or may not exist eternally.
Cause and effect stem from ultra-micro inter-relationships of the 180 degree, diametrically opposing phenomena of Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(.
The resultant of these two diametrically opposing phenomena and their invaginations as to create the sine-wave patterns /\/\/ associated with physical reality aka observed time { quantised/quantifiable } ex EMRadition { photon } and Electrons
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@sadolite
Dialogue with you is pointless.
As ive stated the same above about you in past. Your not interested in truth or seeing the truth about yourself { trumpeteer ] and Trumpet { immoral } Typical of all trumpeteers.
Fire { burning } and slow death from cancer I fear the most. ALsheimers wouldnt be great either cause slow death.
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@TheMorningsStar
Trinity in Cosmic Trinary Outline
1} Eternally existent, Meta-Space { Meta-physical-1/spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts ex ego identity { i }, God, Time, Space, Universe, Toyota's, unicorns, Cats etc are all concepts and have no energy, not a occupied space nor and a non-occupied space,
------------------------conceptual line-of-demarcation----------------
2} Eternally existent, macro-infinite truly non-occupied space, that, embraces the following,
3} Eternally existent, occupied space Universe { tainted God } ---spirit-2, 3 and 4----,
.......3a} spirit-2, fermions, bosons and any aggregate collection thereof, --- associated with sine-wave patterning /\/\/ ex EMradiation and electrons----
........3b} Meta-physical-3 { spirit-3 } ultra-micro, positive shaped geodesic as Gravity ( ),
.........3c} Meta-physical-4 { spirit-4 } ultra-micro, positive shaped geodesics as Dark Energy )(.
..................................space(>*<) i (>*<)space...............................
* * = bilateral consciousness as associated with sine-wave patterning
i = ego/identity
>< = invaginations from peaks of positive and negative curvature associated with all cosmically quantum tori
( ) = positive shaped geodesic Gravitational ( ) space
)( = negative shaped geodesic Dark Energy )( space
space = macro-infinite non-occupied space ---see #2 in Cosmic Trinity above---
Space = occupied and truly non-occupied as first primary catagory, that, complement mind/intellect/concepts aka Meta-Space.
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@Sum1hugme
We haven't observationally confirmed the existence of dark matter,...
I think you meant Dark Energy.
....But the uniformity indicates space itself is expanding...
Ive already addressed this and you have not. The "space" you address is presumed to be a truly non-occupied space ergoyour "space" is not an occupied space not a medium that do expand-contract.
Why you do not address this is because you have not clarifying answer, as I clearly laid out for other mediums, rubber, steel, wood etc are occupied space and expand-contract.
A non-occupied space does not expand-contract, and your hoping that it does is wishful thinking your part Sum-H.
There exists two primary kinds of spae, occupied and non-occupied. This is rational, logical common sense you have yet to grasp and have yet to identify what the specific characteristics of "space" that is presumed to be expanding and if it is a medium that can expand, then it can also contract, just as any other occupied space medium.
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@sadolite
How does Trump even figure into the OP?
Trumpeteers --like you-- have Trumpet [ narrcisic ego } disease that makes most of you sick in the head and stupidity via ego kills self ---if only indirectly--- and others also indirectly.
Fire and slow cancer death scare me the most.
Having heart disease does not impact others, not wearing the mask does impact and others to the point of killin some others. Sad sick in the the head those who keep beating their heads against brick wall screaming frreedom to not wear a mask, dont you dare attempt to take away my freedom to get sick, maybe ide and maybe klll others, just by breathing on them.
Sick in the the head is many disease, but the new one is Trumpet disease and like the contact high from 60's people in contact with Trumpet become infected and then pass it on to others. And it can be spread by TV and internet etc. Sad :--(
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@Sum1hugme
...indicates that the space between them is expanding....
more correctly stated as, the distance between them is increasing. Space in of itself is consider to be a non-occupied space and not a something --like a rubber band or basket ball-- that can expand or contract. So the "space" is not expanding. Our abdomen and lungs expand and contract, a truly non-occupied space does not exand-contract.
With that part above more refined for clarity sakes --closer to absolute truth-- we can now address the photonic red shift i.e. the waves length are getting longer.
..." Astronomers have discovered
that, in general, the further away a galaxy is, the more red-shifted its
light is. This means that the further away the galaxies are, the faster
they are moving. "......
.." .. Doppler shifts arise from the relative motion of source and observer through space, whereas astronomical redshifts are 'expansion redshifts' due to the expansion of space itself. "....
Again in order for the so called 'space' to expand, it has to be an occupied space, a medium. Only and occupied space { a something } can expand or contract.
..." Something causes the wavelength of the radiation (emitted by faraway stars and galaxies) to 'stretch'. ".....
Ebuc.....So this last one above says that a something is causing the EMRadiation { photons } to be stretched into the red wavelength.
Staack exchange quote--- With the exception of - the expansion of space itself. Yes, photons are losing energy, that's why they're red-shifted.
....--Stack exchange reply--......." This is incorrect. The 'tired photons' hypothesis is in direct
contrast to the Doppler hypothesis. In fact, only one of these can be
true.
The prevalent view is in favor of Doppler effect for the shifting of
the frequency. However, even though this is the dominant view, it does
not apply to all red-shifted objects (for e.g. the Quasar redshift is
still an iffy...)
If the 'tired photons' view was true, there would be a 'smearing'
effect - from the inelastic collisions of photons with interstellar
medium. As of now, no such effect is observed. "......
Ebuc....not to rock the boat ---of traditional scientific evidence--- too much, we have to consider, how Universe is observed to be expanding everywhere at same time. This is where the loaf of 3D rasin bread expanding rasins { as galaxies quasars etc } away from each other analogy , was long ago w adopted over the 2D surface of the balloon stretching { expanding }.
So Universe expansion and the Dark Energy accelerating expansion, is the rasins in loaf of expanding { in all directions } dough bread { a medium of 'space'. Ok?
So now with some clarity ---or confusion--- we are back to the red shifted photon { EMR } from galaxies farther away.
Stack exchange again----" Photons don't loose energy but collide with one another making gaps in
the waveform over space, By Fourier Analysis these gaps would give a red
shift. The further the light travels the more photon collisions there
would be so the more red shift. This is not the same as tired light. The
microwave back ground could be caused by photons of reduced energy
which have been knocked out of the original light stream. I am not
disputing that the Doppler shift can occur only that there is also the
mechanism of photon collisions as well. There could be both Doppler
Effect and photon collisions causing the red shift. ".....
I'm not convinced that we have a rasin-bread-like 3D expanding Universe, and we know some galaxies are moving toward each other, not always from each other.
And Dark Energy acceleration is more of what I was considering but whether UNiverse and the space { as a medium } is expanding is also not convincing to me, because I dont see the mechanism of how it expands, as say compared to rubber molecules or steel or wood etc.
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@zedvictor4
Fortunately, and thanks to previously experimental vaccines I haven't contracted polio, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, smallpox, TB etc.
Zed, you omitted shingles { 2 shots } and pneumonia { two shots } and I have those also.
CoVid shots should be mandated globally --once shown to be safe in short run--- if you cant supply a card that is also in global data base, then you should not be allowed on any public transportations or enclosde public areas and if you refuse to wear a mask --barring underlying respiratory issues-- more penalities will be held against you.
Its crazy how many people are so paranoid that they wont wear mask that mitigates, all viri { Flu and colds } and bacterial exposure. This has a alot to do with narracisistic Trumpet's irrational, illogical lack of common sense beig passed on to his cult trumperteer followers who rather die for freedom not to wear a mask and in that process kill others.
These people are sick in the head and I believe, if a MRI brain scan was done of them, compared to non-trumpeteers we would find abnormal irregular brain activity in trumpeteers brains. Sad :--(
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What if Universe is not expanding, and rather, our perceptions { pooints-of-view } of Universe is changing. This approach I'm working on, is based on the idea the the closer we get to the something, the larger { more gigantic } is seems to us. Say your a mile from a large tree but as you get closer it seems to get bigger visually.
Below is a way that we can currently recieve data that the Universe is expanding and accelerating in that expansion, when in actuality, Universe is not expanding at all. This has to do with every quantum particle of Universe being composed of tori, and each tori has three distinct aspects:
1} outer peak of positive curvature ( ) i.e. the outer great circle of each quantum torus is ultra-micro Gravity ergo we do no quantize or quantify it,
2 and 3 is the higher and lower peaks of a sine-wave patterning /\/\/\/ we find with EMRadiation { photons/boson } and electrons { fermions }
4} inner peak of negative curvature )( i.e. the inner great circle of each quantum torus, is ultra-micro, Dark Energy ergo we do not quantise nor quantify it.
So ideas is that currently the inside-the-tube i.e. between outer positive shaped Gravitational space and the inner negative shaped Dark Energy space, is our two peaks that defined the sine-wave patterning, and that I believe, for whatever reason, we began to detect indirectly accelearting expansion of Universe as Dark Energy,
NOT because Universe is expanding rather because the inside sine-wave patterning is getting closer to the innner peak of curvature surface. Below is graphic pattern Ive presented for years, but take note that the sine-wave pattern 0, 3, 6, 9, 12 is inside the tube and closer to the inner curvature of the quantum torus.
outer......1......................5.........7.......................11.............13............................17......
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..........................3..................................9...............................................15......................lower peak of sine-wave
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inner.............2........4........................8........10................................14............16.............
So this a rough. gross oversimplification as to scales of size, however, it shows the basic sine-wave of our observed time physical reality being closer to inner curvature of Dark Energy, at least at this time or cycles of eternal Universe existence.
There may be times we ---the sine-wave of reality--- approachs the outer postive curvature and then as we get closer to graviational outer surface peak we indirectly see a contracting Universe.
So the above is a way, in which Universe is not actually expanding or contracting rather or perceptions our closer to one other the other side of all cosmic quantum tori, some combination of two or more define every particle of Universe except for perhaps a gravitn-darkion.
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@Polytheist-Witch
No one is required to prove gods exist.
How do we prove the concept of God exists?
Fare easier to prove that God = Universe.
Soul = biologic patterning
Spirit = four primary kinds of spirit,
.......1} Meta-Space-1 { spirit-1 { mind/intellect/concept },
.......2} observed time aka spirit-2 ergo fermions and bosons and aggregate thereof as atoms, molecules, biologics, planets, etc
........3} spirit-3 { Meta-physical-3 } ultra-micro positive shaped geodesic of Gravity ( ),
.........4} spirit-4 { Meta-physical-4 }, ultra-micro, negative shaped geodesic of Dark Energy )(.
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@sadolite
......You are to chicken shit........
...." Luckily there is no shortage of official advice on how to look
after chicken manure. As long as I comply with Article 13 F of the
European Union Control Regulation 1069/2009 (I am not making this up)
then I’m OK to spread it on the garden, or even in the field. As my
chickens roam free, and tend to relieve themselves wherever and whenever
they feel like it, I suppose I’d better check that they are fully
conversant with this rule.
My fondness for bureaucrats tends to be at the lower end of the
scale, but the trouble is, once you start looking at the reasons behind
some of this nonsense, you find that it isn’t nonsense at all. One of
the reasons you have to wait for chicken manure to “cool” to the point
where it can used as fertiliser is because it also contains the bacteria
Clostridium botulinum.
This toxin, which causes botulism, { :--O } is one of the most dangerous
known to science. It can cause paralysis to the muscles that control
breathing, and without rapid treatment tends to be fatal in around 5-10%
of cases."....
Oromagi is obviously uneducated on ...' The perils of chicken shit '.....or that it is something to crow about.
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@Nyxified
Those who have the gold make the golden rules....B.C. Comic Book.
Elizabeth Warren is one of many peoples who know such more about economics than I do.
Bucky Fuller in Grunch of the Giants, stated that,.....we need to understand economic if were going to steer in a benificial way for humanity going forward, or something like-that.... maybe he was saying if were going to contol it, which is to steer it.
3RU has a video of Warren in senate chair questioning some lady whose speciality is economics.
Eliszabeth wants all banks regulated/overseen by others outside of the system who say what the believe. Alot of what can be said from my viewpoint is not much.
I have to revert to a greater whole of humanity, irrespective of and including, economic choices, source of energy choices etc. If we dont feel like were at part of greater good, that, fro most part on equal class settings, with other humans, then loose faith, trust, hope compassion and eventually love of life. Sad :--( and as white middle class of many years, I dont know the poor suffering of others, ex my parents youth, and their parents youth.
Less years but more spiritually fulfilling years is what more humanity may be necessary for humanity to go through for 100 years or more. That is just off the top head intuition of what it may take for humanity to make it beyond 2232 { approx. }
Hey, it is anybodys guess, the future. 8 billion plus people have ideas. Each of us with mind of own. We all attempt to regulate { steer } the others to degree.
Is there an integral glue/cohesion that has kept humanity alive, not going extinct yet?
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@3RU7AL
1} Ethics { psychology/religon etc }, 2] culture { peer/religon et }, 3} genetics all interact and interpeffect how a person develops the behavior twowards their environment.
Not everyone is american, or African or Asian or literate, all of these peoples behaviour vary based the above three.
One size does not fit all ergo, some United Nations global polling will have to be done local with the global scenarios data output tailored to be understood what that information presented means specifically. There is going to be issues arise.
.........feedback at as many steps along the way in instituting a global awarness and polling becomes instituted..........
This kind of global effort will take time and much more good will consideratons then many people and countrys have given before.
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@3RU7AL
Tell us, fearless leader, how would you, in your unparalleled wisdom, how would you fix this mess?
1} global issues { "mess" } require global involvement, ---ex United Nations was created for a set of reasons----,
......interspersed with education of a set of spiritually significant feelings that espouse a moral imperative to find truth, share the truth and trust, compassion, caring for all of humanity going forward with a all-for-one and one-for-all mentality knowing full well will some perish along the way --- or standards of living may have to be lessened---- because of the complexity involved uniting 8 billion+ _ 200+ nations } people on Earth..... ****maybe add in the three libertarian moral laws**** if agreed upon by enough of humanity......
2} correctly identifying the "mess", { globally detrimental issues to ecological systems that sustain us },
......interspersed with education of a set of spiritually significant feelings that espouse a moral imperative to find truth, share the truth and trust, compassion, caring for all of humanity going forward with a all-for-one and one-for-all mentality knowing full well some will perish along the way because of the complexity involved uniting 8 billion+ { 200+ nations } people on Earth..... maybe add in the three libertarian moral laws if agreed upon by enough of humanity......
3} use super-computer with the appropriately relevant data of so we may see various optional trajectories humanity appears to be going on ------ the recent hot spells was partially caused by jet stream that slow its progression west to east, and that was not predicted in some global warming climate models--- ergo humanity should be increasing by 100.000s of people doing this kind of various data entry an computer based scenario outputs etc
......interspersed with education of a set of spiritually significant feelings that espouse a moral imperative to find truth, share the truth and trust, compassion, caring for all of humanity going forward with a all-for-one and one-for-all mentality knowing full well some will perish along the way because of the complexity involved uniting 8 billion+ { 200+ nations } people on Earth..... maybe add in the three libertarian moral laws if agreed upon by enough of humanity......
4} review, present and educate humanity that, if they dont already understand it, humanity is not on good trajectory and the computer model scenarios agree with what most scientists already intuit is happening and or coming.
.......interspersed with education of a set of spiritually significant feelings that espouse a moral imperative to find truth, share the truth and trust, compassion, caring for all of humanity going forward with a all-for-one and one-for-all mentality knowing full well some will perish along the way because of the complexity involved uniting 8 billion+ { 200+ nations } people on Earth..... maybe add in the three libertarian moral laws if agreed upon by enough of humanity......
5} if there are computer scenarios that point to ethics, truth trust etc over economic path only, humanity needs to be educated as to these options scenarios, and others, so here with #5 paragraph, I'm beginning to repeat myself from #4.
Ways in following LINK, that, we know humanity can become extinct immediatly, very short time, or moderate longer time, were some may survive in a really "mess" of much worse ecologically strained world.
If some percentage of world believes all is fine, then that global poll needs to be taken before and after each set of new global scenarios ---based on super-computers output---, on every 6 months or however we { United Nations that is trusted to have moral and intellectual integrity } can decide.
...............interspersed with education of a set of spiritually significant feelings that espouse a moral imperative to find truth, share the truth and trust, compassion, caring for all of humanity going forward with a all-for-one and one-for-all mentality knowing full well some will perish along the way because of the complexity involved uniting 8 billion+ { 200+ nations } people on Earth..... maybe add in the three libertarian moral laws if agreed upon by enough of humanity......
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@3RU7AL
FREEDOM = EVIL
False 3ru, free radicals { unstable atoms } = unstable conspiratorial activistist that, most often are the immoral Trumpets, immoral trumpeteers, and Qanon type, repeating the same lies, false info, misleading narrative on masks, and vaccines, over and over and over and over and over again and again and again etc.
...."Free radicals are unstable atoms that can damage cells,
causing illness and aging. Free radicals are linked to aging and a host
of diseases, but little is known about their role in human health, or
how to prevent them from making people sick."......LINK.....
GP Dr Fank and few others around here believe they are 'radicals' out to save the world from government of lizard people who only want to controll all of humanity. What exactly would be so bad ab out having a government in control of its peoples is not year clear.
It seems to me, that, the correct/proper control of the people may lead humanity onto a better trajectory than the one we are on now ie. an end date prognosticaion by me, of 2232 { approx. }.
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@oromagi
Dr Fanklin { trumpeteer } = .."Free radicals are unstable atoms that can damage cells,
causing illness and aging. Free radicals are linked to aging and a host
of diseases, but little is known about their role in human health, or
how to prevent them from making people sick."...
And so it goes with free radicala attacking the integrity of all peoples who follow rational, logical common sense truths associated with the scientific methodology and those resultants.
Masks help to mitigate air borne disiease, and the free radical cries out government conspiracy, to control our lives and institiute systems of government that enslave humanity.
Is any wonder humanity is doomed with at least 74 million of these free radicals running around loose /free in USA?
End date for humanity 2232 { approx. }
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@Greyparrot
Radicals against the establishment.
More like free radical destabilizing rational logical common sense values of people with moral and intellectual integrity Sad Qanon types.
..."Free radicals are unstable atoms that can damage cells,
causing illness and aging. Free radicals are linked to aging and a host
of diseases, but little is known about their role in human health, or
how to prevent them from making people sick."...LINK...
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@3RU7AL
..we have GRANTED THE PREMISE (for the sake of argument, GOD = PERFECT).
3ru, my message did not suggest otherwise. Sorry if you thought it did.
My message laid out clearly that, when "God = PERFECT" God is Meta-Space { Metaphyiscal-1/spirit-1 } concept.
Pretty simple actually and no mind games on my end. :--( I try to refine truth --or at least my words-- to get closer and closer to absolute cosmic truth.
The religious fundamentalist play 50 irrational, illogical lack of common sense mind games every morning before lunch. Wink Wink ;-O
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@Fruit_Inspector
Messsage #27 ...I think Ive seen this same scenario in various science-fiction
movies, like the Stepford Wives, and The Body Snatchers etc. It is
clear now, the government is the lizard people attemting to control us
rabbits and stop us from our contnual overpopulating the Earth, with the
systems of operation that are in place.
The
rabbits will rise and again, triple the amount of humans on Earth in
five years because its is Gods will and God controls the government.
Yeah, thats the ticket, yeah, it is becoming clear to those who remain
anti-social.
Do you believe that Trump tried to overstep his authority and use "government control" to accomplish his own desires? Do you believe other Republicans do this too? What would they get out of it?
Did a narrcistic, psycbotic, mysoginist, racist bigot, repeat the same lies over and over and over as propaganda to mislead from truth and mis-informationist at every level attempt chaotic tyranny of USA people while in USA presidential office, that also and encourage uneccessary violence? YES.
Did 74 million irrational, illogical lack of common sense trumpeteers support encourage this kind of immmoral conduct and commit violence in his name Trumpet? YES they did.
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@3RU7AL
How can a PERFECT GOD create anything less-than-PERFECT ??
Meta-Space { Metaphyiscal-1/spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concept is not an occupied space ergo untainted, no charge, no color, no, angles, no spin, no mass and exist a perfection. God is a concept of perfection and does not exist as an occupied space and not a non-occupied space.
Concepts --ex God, dog, Toyota etc-- cannot create space, occupied nor non-occupied.
When word God is used as synonym of an occupied space, ex Universe, then that God/Universe is not perfect i.e. tainted, has a charge, spin, color taste, momentum dynanism, flow, etc.
Is talking rational, logical common sense to an irrational, lilogical lack of common sense religous fundamentalist in of itself an irrational act?
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@Wylted
Fear ---as with most events of life--- of CoV2 is far greater than the insignificant side effects that may occur for the majority.
My arm upper arm was very sore with both shots ---almost in the exact same spot on same arem--- nd some two months later a welt occurred and weeped some puss, and had some minor itching. It happend in night and upon awakening I showed to me wife, she said it looked like a boil. I researched on net, and found most infor saying this was sigh anti-bodies were doing what they were suppose to do.
When I got two pneumonia vaccines and two shingles vaccines, I used opposite arms. However, with one of those two vaccines, my upper arm became very sore, so arm soreness from vaccine was in my recent pass before getting CoV2 vaccination.
We have nothing to fear, but fear itself......USA president Roosevelt
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@Nyxified
They always monitored you afterwards, so this seems fairly normal to me.
You obviously not aware of fact that Trumpet, trumpeteers and Qanon's are not normal humans. My guess is that if asked a series of questions ---while in an MRI machine--- we would find neurological problems/irregulalarities with the most of the 74 million that voted for Trumpet in USA. Sad :--( and potentially danger to humanity.
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@Wylted
Why the fuck do you need it for a flu shot?
Duhh, people change overtime and can develop allergies. I was raised on cows milk, then at 24 years of age I stopped doing cow dairy for 12 years, when I tried again, moderate to severe allergic skin reactions occurred.
You sound like a very uneducated child under 15 years of age, clueless to the world around you.
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@zedvictor4
Greater and more significant frauds ---exx Qanon--- done by Trumpet and trumpeteers as well as greater damaged to nation.
Trumpet and trumpeteers are modern day George Wallance racist of the 60's ---sent national guard and german shepards to attack people of color-----,
MLK did not pardon criminal found guilty of crimes and placed in prison and MLK preached non-violence even as family threatened and attacked.
Trumpet encouraged unnecessary violence at his rallies and trumpeteers quick to turn violent at Trumpet rallies. Sick-n-head, violent fraudulent, insurrecting racists vs MLK.
This topic is sic-n-head divergence distraction from what is mores significant problems with society. Trumpets trumpeteers and Qanon immoral wackos spreading false, misleading info about masks and CoV2 vaccines.
So now we see many anti-vaxxers getting sick and begging others to get vaccinated.
74 milion trumpeteers spreading fraudulant moral integrity in USA.
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@Fruit_Inspector
at least makes our suspicion rational.
Or just anti-social. I remmeber as a child, the public grade school had these ice cream socials, where parents were invited to participate.
Now I see, that it clear from the anti-social types, that the government was attepting to lure in the parents control them and the children at same time on public school ground.
I think Ive seen this same scenario in various science-fiction movies, like the Stepford Wives, and The Body Snatchers etc. It is clear now, the government is the lizard people attemting to contol us rabbits and stop us from our contnual overpopulating the Earth, with the systems of operation that are in place.
The rabbits will rise and again, triple the amount of humans on Earth in five years because its is Gods will and God controls the government. Yeah, thats the ticket, yeah, it is becoming clear to those who remain anti-social.
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@zedvictor4
What an amazing hotchpotch of ideas
Or as Zed would say, stupid is as dumb does.
Trumpets Trumpeteer cult followers make clear the situation they find themselves in posts #16 and 17.
Lets see now, we can add mesmer to that list, and _______ and ______ and _______.
Being aware of their --ones-- defects is half way to curing them. So it appears they are half-way there. Or are they?
I they also Qanon cult followers? Of course they are.
If USA government doesnt want more of their type, then the better do a better job controling education malfunctions/defects.
Genetrics > parents > peers > education > government > business. Is that the correct order? No, not if the child watches tv, or nowdays I guess it is the internet.
Genetics > parents > internet > ___ and ____ and ____
Is government controling the internet? Whats the differrence between regulating and controling? Who sees more conspiracies --perceived real, real, not real--- than others? Who is taught moral, critical thinking, etc?
Who is controling the governement? Right? Left? Business right, business left?
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@Mesmer
So, in these regards, Martin Luther King was a fraud.
A fraud? Not for most part ergo topic is meant to mislead and distract from the more signifcant facts in regards MLK:
1} more courageous and brave then Trumpet or his cult of Trumpeteers,
2} more courageous than any president since MLK"s shooting,
3} largest crowd every recorded at the --not like the false claims of Trumpet--- ..." The March on Washington was a massive protest march that occurred in
August 1963, when some 250,000 people gathered in front of the Lincoln
Memorial in Washington, D.C. Also known as the March on Washington for
Jobs and Freedom, the event aimed to draw attention to continuing
challenges and inequalities faced by African Americans a century after
emancipation. It was also the occasion of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s
now-iconic “I Have A Dream” speech."... uhh it was also peacful.
4} this organization was done primarily by a person who used those little 3 x 6 library like cards of the time,
5} and with all of the above, consider, the threats on this man and his families life, to find a just and fair USA.
This topic is a Trumpeteer cult mind-set ---lies, distractions from truth, more repeated lies, more distractions, more lies, more distractions etc--- attempt to distract away from integrity, justice, fair play etc. of a man { King }who was far above and beyond what USA has seen in Washington Republicans before president Biden, and current republicans.
All of these Trumpeteers need to be sent to a prison designed for special-case educations of morality, truth and justice.
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@Athias
...i'm neither irrational nor religious....
Ok then, my error Athias,..... sorry for my error and that I may have caused you to respond to my thoughts, cause I know you traditionally prefer not to respond to ebuc, in general tho now Ive been ubblocked.
Meta-Space { Metaphysical-1 / spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts are perfect, in that they are all untainted i.e. they have no energetic charge, spin, momentum, etc, because, they are not an occupied space and specifically phyiscal reality aka observed time ergo not quantise-able or quantify-able .
.....time....effect <<< Past <<<<< Out <<< (> * <) i (> * <) <<<< In <<< Future <<< cause ...time.....<<< dynamic flow-of-time
....eternity.....cause >>> past >>> In >>>(> * <) i (> * <) >>> Out >>>> Future >>> Effect ...eternity......>>> Arrow-Of-Time ......
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Humanity needs to live shorter lives, that are more spiritually fulfilling.
At least til we get past the oncoming end-date-for-humannity 2232 { approx. }
Did you see Trumpets republican Trumpeteer brain eaters trying to blame Pelosi for the USA insurrection?
These people have no moral integrity and need to go to some speical-kind of moral re-education prisons. They are a menace to the global integrity that hmanity needs to move toward, rather quickly. The greenhouse gas PPMillion may already gone above some limits that cannot reverse global warming in such short time spans.
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@rbelivb
...a tight knit sense of community with at least a certain set of values which are held in common. This predicts that these groups will be more religious and conservative....
Rings true to some degree, but probably more so for hispanics/latinos.
Earths environment is the womb from which we 80% water biologics incubate in.
It is race between human empathy, technological advance and mind over matter, global integrity, as well as, a race to end racism, bigotry, unnecessary lies, less significant truths, distracting from more significant truths, and and immoral false narrative that diverge from truth.
If none of these violate any cosmic principles or physical laws, then it is possible humanity can still prevent mass-suffering, --or extinction--- if if the environmental PPM of greenhouse gases is already over some limit in the atmosphere.
The barbarians are at the gates, and we are the barbarians. Crazy is as crazy does is what Zed-Vector would say, if he were here.
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@Stephen
put forward reasons that god chose to transform into human
I think some confuse super-natural with Meta-natural.
Super-foods, super-nova, Super-market are just larger versions and more varied retail items to offer.
Meta-natural would be beyond finite, occupied space Universe { nature/cosmos/cosmic etc } and by extension, beyond the macro-infinite non-occupied space, with this latter not be possible within context of 3D or more space.
So then we to go to Meta-Space { Metaphysical-1/spirit-1 } mind//intellect/concepts, and this is the origin of concept of God stems from.
A word the most macro-set of what exists, and that which beyond what we know to exist ergo imagination of the beyond, is based purely on what we do know, from our experience.
If we experience triangle { integral set enclosure with three angle }, then next linear step is to imagine a square [ ]. Wll, it leads to an infinite set, that, we believe to exist in two ways:
1} the macro-infinite non-occupied space, that is rational, logical common sense conclusion, and,
2} a concept of infinite this or that. Conceptual God that is infinite this or that or another etc.
Imagination is a wonderful expereince.
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@Intelligence_06
Some life is not worth living, as in evidence by those willing to take own life, or risk life without much rational, logical common sense reasoning.
People fear death because of mental terror of pain and not awakening from unconscious states, as most humans go to sleep then awaken throughout there lives.
Mental psychosis fear of death may be likened to deep sleep paralysis, only person is conscious and fears any action.
Ive had mild forms of this psychosis at various times, afraid to move as consciousness knowing any action has consequences, and the unknown consquences over-ride my ability to move. I always did move eventually cause here I am today typing away, so many years along the pathway of the coming terminality of death.
Dead people touching and getting close does bother me, as they are cold and clammy and that seems so un-natural too me. Not so much to those who have witness more death around them in their lifes.
The highests spiritual places states, all that i will do for death, is to die for it.
Ans that may be related to a ' one-for-all and all-for-one ' mentality, to whatever degree.
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@rbelivb
this is deeply conservative.
Black race of USA tends to be more conservtive, but because republicans tend to be more racists, USA black population is forced to side with democrats because of republicans being a greater threat to civility, justice { fair play } leaves blacks little alternative options.
Brown-ing of humanity is more and more combinations of the following set:
Primarily White { European and isolated by mountain valley eastern origins -- some straight black hair, tho not to degree of some others from equaltorial lattitudes }
Primarily Red { western USA native indians -- variations of brown/copper across USA --straight black hair -- see also Inuit Eskimoes }
Black { kinky savannah hair African origins --- aborigines Australia }
Dark { straight black hair } indian, indonesia etc
Yellow { asian --- minor darker skin tone and major lighter skin tone -- see also Inuti Eskimoes }.
The greatest differrence found in all cultures is man and woman.
Bible = Patriarchy
Earth = Matriarchy
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This below is from post #22
2020, 74 million brain dead zombosie's ---out of 8 billiion
humans--- vote fro head brain dead, Trumpster, and attack USA capital in
attempt to eat brains of USA politiians., and few months later attempt
to eat brains of judges elected by Trumpster an his brain dead
followers.
Zombosis disease sees no morality, hears no morality and only eats morality.
Humanity is a generalization. How the humans treat each other going forward, is less fruiful if lies lead to lack of moral integrity.
The highest place, is to say, ' the only thing i will do for death, is to die for it '. This may translate to one-for-all and all-for-one mentality and morally high place....
Mind forward, we may live shorter life-spans, yet have more fun ---ex sex-- and less children, more technology to aid in preventing pregnancy and unwanted births, that would otherwise follow.
Humanity needs to live shorter lives, that are more spiritually fulfilling.
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If you missed it here before, here it is again, why do humans have butts? See post #1, this below is post #4
Man kicks horses ass in 50 mile race and their top race horse must kss mans ass for first time of this 20 plus year event.
Down
the rabbit hole may leads to higher protein diet, bigger brains, foot
arches, shorter toes, and larger butts all so humans can run, their
high-protein-prey, to exhaustion.
Why
the change in anatomy? Was RNA or DNA in a virus from space? Maybe it
was just weird person who had huge butt, and his genetic buttl got
passed on to his future generation of long distance runners.
>> Maybe others were trying to kick the mans ass, so he took off running and never stopped, and his butt muscles going into the back, kept him from falling over on his face.
>> Humanity needs their butt muscles going forward into the future, to keep them falling into their face, and never coming out again.
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The only ones who like to discern the, non-discern-able --i.e. no accurate
conclusion--- is Trumpets Trumpeteers, repeating a lie, over and over
and over and over, until, all others see, is the lie, aka the Title of this thread, over and over and over, and over on the screen.
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@Stephen
Is it any wonder that the book of Enoch wasn't included in the bible?
Bible = Patriarchy
Earth Environment { atmosphere } = Womb of Matriarchy
* Y * = Male { testes externalized }, two eyes { consciousness }, two hemi-spheres { more complex consciousness },
\ * * / = Female { ovaries internalized }, 2D opening { portal/vagin-a-tion }, /\ triangle { minimal 2D opening }, imagin-a-tion { more bilateral inter-action of hemi-spheres }
Bucky Fuller...' men are pushers, women are attracters '.........or is it spelled attractors?
-{1}Male electric photonic { EMR } sine-wave pattern that is at 90 degrees { perpendicular } to to female
--{2} Female magnetic photonic { EMR } sine-wave pattern, is at 90 degrees to male
Female is designed for carrying capacity of woman and fetus/babies { one-or-more-in-the-oven } ergo, the above {2} bars-- goes with --female/woman--.
Male gets one bar-. Good to have around, tho lacking in more bilateral action of hemi-spheres, and less complex genetics, than that of more complex female.
Prior to sex----> Real love is when both parties share common love { party/enjoy } i.e. it takes two, in the tango spirit, or spirit of tango.
Prior to sex----> Less the 100% real love is when only one part wants to continue/extend the spirit-of-tango.
After sex---------> so many scenarios to consider, and one of those many can of a commitment for meaningfully significant agreements to be available to each other in safe union-of-two-parties, or not.
------->To stay union-ated going forward, or not.-----> United we stand, one humanity, under the Earthian Womb, or more divided, into less/smaller tribal { loving? } parts.
Wow! ........(>*Y*<) i (>\* */<).......To proceate, or not to procreate, that is the question, for some. Wow!
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@Double_R
No one is defending this.
Defending what? They only ones who like to discern the uncern-able --no accurate concluson--- is Trumpets Trumpeteers, repeating a lie, over and over and over and over, until, all others see is the lie.
There is a word for this type of immorally sick-n-head propaganda. ? ? ? ______ ? ? ? Perversion? Perverting truth? Misleading?
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@Stephen
The common shout from Christians is that god, became flesh to understand "human suffering"
Sex { orgasm } is the no brainer answer. No sex, no proliferation of any species and much less fun on Earth or in heaver ;--D
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@whiteflame
Longer is not better.
This is typical, short sided male mindset is, that, longer is better, and it is true, in some cases, of evolutionary context i.e. getting spermatozoa closer to the egg.
Truth has nothing to do with longer or shorter.
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@zedvictor4
Humans are basically humans for sure, evolutionary modifications of the organic are very slow.
I stated "basically barbarians". Humans are basically human is redundancy on your part, sort of Goopy-like speak.
Though human inspired evolutionary modifications of the inorganic and organic are much swifter and gathering apace.
I have no idea what it is, that you think your going on a bout Zed.
The hierarchy of intelligence is what is important, and the barbarians are easily controlled by the intellectual elite....Take a look at the history books.
Huh? DO mean degrees of access to Meta-Space{ Metaphyscial-1/spirit-1, mind/intellect/concepts? i'm not aware of any heirchy of intelligence, such as you suggest. ? ? ?
It only takes one human to inspire immense change.
And how does that related to Jeff Besos/Bozo?
And to stop the ball rolling you just need a steep enough hill.
Ball? What ball are you talking about Goop/Zed? The steeper hill works boths way Zed/Goop. A 90 degree slope is vertical I and 180 degree slope is horizontal __.
Vertical is to live as horizontal is to die, but a straight drop of enough distance is death for most biologics, unless they have a working parachute, or space capsule.
Try again, Zed?
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@drlebronski
Was Jeff Bezos more hard working than you?
Yes, he probably put in more hours figuring out his business than I did working for others.
That is a moot point in overall scheme of humanities shorter or longer term existence on Earth.
Kudo's to Beso's for hard working desire to be the largest ---I read quote by him that that is what he strived for--- he stated, not the most money, but just to be the largest AMAZON is huge forest, and his business became huge financial gain.
Again, that is all short term non-sense game humanity is playing at this time.
"what if everything you know is wrong"....VID link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UVfqtfQBc
Humans are basically barbarians whose ego appears to me, to be leading them to extinction with couple hundred years. And some say I'm being to generous. So hey if we all believe were on the way out, then sure take the blue, red or green pill and party on the Blue Source likes it 1999 { Prince }. Let anarchy rule for a while and see where that leads us too.
There are many possible trajectories forward humanity may choose{?}. It is not easy to change the momentum of large ball rolling.
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@Aryanman
Capitalism has won over all others ---along with its rich and super-rich--- and that has led to China's error in increase the number children a family is allowed to have.
So I put it to you as I have with Zed and others, in a world of 8 billion Plus { rising } humans and operating systems that appear to put us on trajectroy that leads to self extinction ---hydrogen bomb wars, localised thorium nukes in every community group of 200 or so, sea pf PVC in Pacific, erratic climate change via global warming etc-----
does there exist any humans who would consider, to avoid extinction of humanity, a shorter life span, --ex 50 or 40 instead 60 years average life span and less energy use for unneccessary stuff etc----, yet a more spiritually fulfilling life because humanity felt they were all working together ---as in all-for-one and one-for-all--- to prevent this extinction in short term and in hopes of long term solution to those nutty things humanity is doing that appear to be leading us to extinction.
To date, no one has addressed this questioned posed to them. Why not? For fear of what others would say, if there were agreement with the idea I put forward?
I saw interview of some British man talking about his father who was in Britain during WW2. And one thing that stood out this son, was his father fro many years afterward, that, even tho they were being bomb during the war, and everthing else, it was the best of times for him in his whole life, because there was no class system i.e. everyone was working together as team with no class, color etc distinctions.
In one of the above LINKs I posted the man talks about hydrogen war between Pakistan and India, in of itself, may be enough to snuff out humanity, because of the amount of sunlight that would be blocked out for some number of years.
He lists a super-flare from the sun --happened in 1800's--- that would take out all electronics and melt power lines aka the melting the grid.
If one of these events alone did not take out humanity, the amount of sufferring would be dire and may lead to other devastating actions, however, if one was to occur, and then the next year another, or even a few years later it another severe Earthian event occurrs, does not lead to good scenarios for humanities existence on Earth.
This next vid "what if everything you know is wrong" and my favorite spot where there is a dynamic changing graphic of Earths rise in temperature over many years at 1begins at about 10:35.
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@3RU7AL
Do these CAUSES also have CAUSES ?
3RU, your still trying to talk rational, logical common sense to the irrational, illogical lack of common sense religous brain dead.
Religon can serve a community purpose but when espouses repeatedly the same irrational, illogical lack of common sense concepts it is time forsome of those types to get surgery. ;--) wink wink!
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@whiteflame
I'm sure that, when we are well past his estimated 3-10 year period and the massive death toll he envisions hasn't come to pass, he'll have another excuse for why it's going to happen in another few years based on similarly BS reasoning.
Sort of like those espousing in of the world related to Mayan counter of 2012. I poo-pooed that early only heard whinning.
If all of vaccinated people do die off ----cant say it isnt impossble, tho it may be impossible----, then that will serve to give humanity figure out better what operating systems do they want use on Earth, because it will slow the trashing of the planet and abuse of resources, tho it may not change the amount of global warming that is coming, because of the amount of PPE's already out there.
It may be possible that those PPE's will be removed by some strange unknown technology, or by planting carbon sequestering, deep rooted plants ---tall blur prariere grasses{?}all over 7 prarrire states in USA and other countries. Not likely but who knows what humanity, ---irrereseptive of how many die off, or not--- will do in the future, or if it will matter to whether we exinct ouselvess.
Some would say, good riddance to the cancer or Earth or the barbarians or etc.
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