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@janesix
Earth is strange in that biological life appears to be so rare.

Humans are the most strange creatures because of their access to metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts.

"Universe is everything including me.
Environment is everything excluding me."  Bucky Fuller

Gravity is strange because no one grasps why mass-attracts. The simple answer is, that if mass-attraction { gravity } did not exist, the finite, occupied space Universe would not exist ergo Earth and the complex biological humans would not exist to observe and ponder the Universe.

123, ABC, thats how easy Universe can be.
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@3RU7AL
What does a universe look like without any Objective Observers or Absolute Laws?

Simple answer. Non-occupied space ergo a non-existent occupied space Universe and no integrity.

Even hyperdimensions { utlra-small } have integrity.

No integrity = no occupied space

No integrity = the macro-infinite non-occupied space

No integrity = infinite

Integrity = finite

Consensus reality is meaningless without more context.

Reality is based on numerical triangulatiion as 0, 3, 6, 9, 12 and is obvious to any who actually know anything about fermionic matter. Old news.

New news, is that there may exist a new hybrid catagory in addition to fermions and bosons.

Truth {integrity } over lies is similar to mind { metaphysical-1 } over matter.
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Uncertainty only applies to knowing speed and location simultaneously.  Each, in isolation { seperately }, can be known for any observed quanta.

We have not quantised nor quantified quanta of  gravity or quanta of dark energy.

Until we do, they remain as unknowns if they actually exist as a part of reality { Observed Time } or even indirectly associated to reality { Observed Time }.

Reality is quantised and quantifiable as an Observed Time/Frequency ergo directly related to a sine-wave { /\/\/\/ }.
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janesix AMAA
I don't know what your saying. Do you have a question for me?

Which do you prefer more,

1} Antagonism or synergy?

2} Narrow mind or omni-considerate?

3} Truth or lies?

4} Chaos of the irrational, illogical lack of common sense pathways of thought, or rational, logical common sense and orderly pathways of thought?

5} Integrity of heart or integrity of mind?

6} 2P, 3P, 5P or 7P, 9, 10?

.....1.......................5p............7p.......................11p............13p...........................17p............19p.........................23p......


0........................................6...........................................12................................................18............................................24
...................3p...........................................9...............................................15..............................................21........................



............2p.........4................................8...........10...............................14...........16...............................20...........22...............

7} Fundamental core set or largest wholisic set?

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Bucky Fuller "Only Integrity Is Going To Count"

Integrity of the sphere. I like Frances futuristic dome the the best.


QuartzBalls
..Ebuc....
 
Smoothbeyond night,
Theyreflect each light,
 
Smoothbeyond day,
Theyreflect each ray.
 
Equanimity of radii,
Balancedfor Earths sky.
 
Balls inspace,
Gravitythey chase.
 
Spheresprecessed,
In micronsexpressed.
 
Rest in thebeauty,
Rest in thesound,
Rest in theproximity,
Ofspherically round.

"Dare  to be naive"... R. B. Fuller

"My education has been one of my biggest impediments to my learning"...A.  Einstein

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."...R Feynman

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@janesix
I know some people can and will be assholes.I will ignore them

RM---You do realise the users here are only going to antagonise you in general?
To antagonize is the opposite of synergy.

We have bilateral existence * *
1} 66 lines-of -relationship of 12 vertexes in the 4-fold hexa{6}-hedron and the 5-fold Icosa{20}hedron,

2} 66.4 as Pi-time i.e. P^4 minus 31 { XYZ } equals 66.4,

3} Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66

We have the cosmic Trinity set and all of its subsets.

And we have set of cosmic fours:

1} four great planes of the hexa{6}-hedron aka the cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron,

Four levels/lines that in turn { litterally } define four great circles of a numerical torus design that  has as resultant numerically triangulated   --ergo self-stabilixing-- sine-wave { /\/\/\/ }  of realtiy 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 etc

.....1.......................5p............7p.......................11p............13p...........................17p............19p.........................23p......


0........................................6...........................................12................................................18............................................24
...................3p...........................................9...............................................15..............................................21........................



............2p.........4................................8...........10...............................14...........16...............................20...........22...............


Take note of the first three prime numbers { 2, 3, 5 } occurring on,

1} #2 is on bottom { metaphysical-4 dark energy } inner great circle of torus

2} #3 is on inside { reality great circle }, threeness associated with all fermionic matter

3} #5 is on outer  great circle of metaphysical-3 as gravity.

This above is the core basis for Lisi's 8-dimentional Universe, tho he is clueless to this core numerical pattern.




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@TheRealNihilist
Omar--Okay
Actually years ago I printed out some wallet size business like cards that stated;

Buc-ki-an  I pronounced as Buc-key-in

/\....................O
......Bucki'an..........
Past--NOW--Future
Omni-considerate

Ebuc--Oh-Tay Bucky-Wheat ( O .. O )
That was who I was then. Today I would have my card be more like this
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/\.........( * i * ).........O
......Buckywheat.......
Past--NOW--Future
..Omni-considerate..
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123, ABC,  Thats How Easy Universe Can Be

The next naturally occuring question is does Universe maintain any of its bilateral  phenomena that it may have at it entropic heat death phase of existence?

O|O ergo can we find any duality or bilateral existent at any time in the last 13.5 billion years on they largest cosmic scale?

I seem to recall some years back cosmologist had found a large amount of clusters of galaxies all moving in the same direction if being pulled off ---attracted-- in this one direction for no apparrent reason..

Now that is two links I need to find. In writing these ommin-considerat concerns we understand more who Ebuc is.



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@TheRealNihilist
EBuc--The question becomes is Universe ever more or less complex over eternity of time?

RM--Equally complex is the answer I would give.

."Equally" over eternity of time is probaby the correct answer i.e finite, occupied space Universe, over eternity, always balances out so that naught is created or lost.

However, over time there MAY exist periods of time where Universe is less and/or more complex relative to other time periods Ex heat death vs volumetric expansion and this MAY mean there exist more parts ergo more interrlationships at some times ergo more complex at some times than others.

This is because of entropy, dispersing all of the many parts as radiation that coalesces as one, finite, very large and very flat { longest frequency } photon, with two sphericals on each side of the photon ---O|O--  wherein each spherical can be envisioned as very large black hole, that  contains both gravity, and dark energy mapping for all possible patterns of existence on their surface, if not also inside each of these two black holes.

Take note of two seeming gas sphericals on each side of  the milky way if  not all galaxies, that I have linked two for a few years now. LINK Were also finding similar duality or  bilateral phenomena with black holes. Cant find that link at moment. 

Bilaterally via two poles or other appears to be a common cosmic theme for those phenomena that are most complex.

Omar--Okay

Oh-Tay Bucky-Wheat ( O .. O )


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@TheRealNihilist
If outside ourselves then I think the universe would have no measure of simple or complex.
Environment is outside of ourselves. Universe is inclusive of each ever self { "ourselves" }.

It would just be what is like playing chess under common rules. Looking during the present time it is complex. Possibly in the future it might be simple and the past even more complex. 
" U "niverse/" G "od is the most complex set.

Uni-V-erse is the next most complex set.

Woman is the most complex biological life.

Oganesson { transuranium } with atomic number 118 is the most complex element known to humans.

5-fold icosa{20}hedron is the  most complex regular polyhedral symmetry and it, along with 4-fold, 3-fold and 2-fold, are the basis for all symmetries of Universe.










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@TheRealNihilist
RM--What I am is none of your business if you mean the 'real me' beneath it all.
There is no "beneath it all"  you.

Somtimes we yawn when we see other yawning sometimes not.  Empathy is complicated. Humans are complicated with woman { Xx } being more complex than man { Xy } numerically and synertically.

Some things just are, that's life.
All things 'Are'  not "just are".

Universe 'Is', not just is.

You { we } were Are you in the past may be Are you in the future, even if you{ we } 'Are' dead or we 'Are' dead.

1) Conscious { ? } time

<<< Past <<< Out <<< ( *  i  * ) <<< In <<< Future

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v

2) Arrow-of-time is in the opposite direction

>>> Past >>> Out >>> ( *  i  * ) >>> In >>> Future

The past self is generally speaking a lesser self tho weight/mass can change as can what metaphyiscal-1, mind/intellect/concepts are accessible and those that are not because of brain issues.

The question becomes is Universe ever more or less complex over etrernity of time?
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@Greyparrot
All good points.
You must have forgotten who you were talking too, in order to stated "All good points" Wink Wink ;--)

Perhaps natural hunger isn't really a bad thing.
When starving our genetics kick-in a powerful substance --hormone?--   as a last ditch effort to keep us going when starving.  There is a small group of new englanders who keep themselves hungry all of the time in order ti have their genes produce this substance more often.

Most animals in nature die from hunger after all, and we don't think twice about it. Time to get back in touch with the planet.
Fuller tried to clarify this evolutionary point in his 1979 book "Critical Path"  i.e. he laid out two kinds of evolution;

Class 1 ?} where humanity moves forward --butt forward into the future--   for a higher standard of living with inadvertent side effects ---doing more with less--   happening along the way,

Class 2 ?} anticipatory design sciences --mind forward-- creating those doing-more-with-less { ephemeralization } technologies that coincide with higher standard of living without destroying the ecological environment that sustains us all.

Historically, humanity has primarily been practicing class 1 evolution.

Fuller was primarily about his 'anticipatory design science' philosophy as early as 1920.

..."that is the Dymaxion principle of doing ever more with ever less weight, time, and ergs per each given level of functional performance. With an average recycling rate for all metals of 22 years, and with comparable design improvements in performance per pound, ephemeralization means that ever more people are being served at ever higher standards with the same old materials”"

..."He posited that systems thinking helps us understand our connectedness and dependence on our local biome. Watch the 1974 film “The World of R. Buckminster Fuller.” ".....




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@disgusted
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple. Luke 14:26
Luke appears to be a  white nationalist supremacist ergo, Trump equals hate,

ISIS = hate

Terrorism equals hate


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@Greyparrot
If you want to alleviate world hunger you have 2 options. 
1) Reduce the birth rate.

For the most part birth rates slows as resultant of higher standard of living,
..the question becomes, what is the longer term detriment to ecological environment that sustains us all, in acquiring this higher standard of life with increasing ---even if slower birth rates exists--- human population,

2) Export Capitalism.
If Capatilism was the answer to human over population problem, they would not have instituted their one-child-per-family policies, and in fact, their increased acitvity to free market as allowed them to amend the one-child-policy for those who have the money.

Unification of all nations as one integrated humanity is the answer, not free market or capitalism.

Capitalism primarily makes for division of humanity into haves, and have-nots, and that is not a long term solution. 
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Toroidal Bacteria Indestructable?
Cetacceans create water tori to play with at sea. Better than any human created tori.


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Torus and black holes

...."The nature of the torus in the heavily obscured AGN Markarian 3: an X-ray study

....A breakthrough in our understanding of the physical properties and geometrical configuration of gas and dust in the innermost parsec around accreting supermassive black holes came recently from dust reverberation experiments in the near-infrared (NIR). By measuring the response of hot dust emission to changes in the ionizing continuum, it has been possible to determine the typical size of the innermost boundary of the dusty ‘torus’ in about 20 nearby active galactic nuclei"...


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We can never really know anything
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@TheRealNihilist
Yes, we know triangles /\ and squares [  ] exist as an occupied space and as metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts. 

This is  a minimal brainer for those who follow rational, logical common sense and seek truth or in denial of  truth.
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I think people would rather be hypocrites then state their wrongs
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@3RU7AL
@TheRealNihilist
OMar---That is a lot to go through...I don't want to spend time on it....Agree to disagree I guess
Or you can chose one to agree too.

..."3Ru7AL---A person's right to their own autonomy is equivalent to a nation's sovereignty.  Why should the rights of a sovereign country be valued more than that of an immigrant (inside of that country)?"...
3RU7AL gets it correct 93.6% of the time


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@3RU7AL
Trust is a network of experiences that we develop over time. 

The amount of time to develop varying degrees of trust varys for each individual.

We trust in a finite set of cosmic laws/principles to be absolute truth because so many scientific based  individuals have told  us they are an absolute truths.
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Euclid's 5th Postulate
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@3RU7AL
Even the laws of physics are temporary.
False and no evidence for such comments are true.

Energy ergo an occupied space cannot be created nor destroyed is an eternally truth everywhere and everywhen.

The sum of the angles of Euclidean triangle is eternally 180 degrees when the base unity is 360 circle.

The tetrahedron is the minimal 3D enclosure that divides Universe into two ---inside and outside--- is the tetrahedron.


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@janesix
@keithprosser
@Stronn
@3RU7AL
There is a difference, however, between being part of reality and being knowable. They may very well be aspects of reality which are unknowable to us.
Uncertainty only applies to knowing speed and location simultaneously.  Each, in isolation { seperately }, can be known for any observed quanta.

We have not quantised nor quantified quanta of  gravity or quanta of dark energy.

Until we do, they remain as unknowns if they actually exist as a part of reality { Observed Time } or even indirectly associated to reality { Observed Time }.

Reality is quantised and quantifiable as an Observed Time/Frequency ergo directly related to a sine-wave { /\/\/\/ }.




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@TheRealNihilist
Men are pushers, women are attractors B Fuller

Men are always thinking they are pushing things, when in fact nothing can be pushed and when it is pushed that pushing is always a resultant of pulling-INward.

Woman most often are born with a womb.

Men are never born with a womb.

Some females species can reproduce exact clones of themselves.

No male species can reproduce exact clones of themselves.




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What's up with all the mass shootings & terrorism in USA?
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@dylancatlow
Oh. Well, White Nationalism isn't necessarily about establishing an all-White country.
Yes it is. Send them back to the countries they came from, to those  four women of color and/or race.

The native american indians who were forced to take the "longest walk" would like the whites take the 'longest swim' back to Europe.



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The evolution of Aggression.
RM---honestly I am done reading your bullshit, mustardness on an alt. Enjoy the block.
Oops, somebodys ego is a hurting.

Please share when you have any rational, logical common sense that adds to ---and you did and I responded--- or invalidates ---and you did and I responded appropriately--  my comments as stated. 

Sorry that your ego is so sensitive/touchy
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@TheRealNihilist
The most concrete thing about ebuc is that he is male?
There exist no concrete busts etc of me Ebuc that I'm aware of.

Anyone who reads through many of  my emails can gain other insights to who Ebuc is. Ex whether or not I have siblings.

I just did a search via my legal name and I personally did not appear ---and I' glad for that---  but 200 or more did appear in USA on one web site I went to. Wow!

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@TheRealNihilist
So who are you then?
Simple answer is ebuc.  I thought you knew that alrdeady so not sure why you ask.

Ebuc is a male { Xy }

Ebuc is a cosmic thinker. See my profile.

If you want more specifics you will have to be more specific and I will decide what is to private to share.



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@TheRealNihilist
Were you still you before you did those things? 
No, you and me are in constant change.  We are not who we were 5 minutes ago, yesterday, 15 days ago, 5 years ago, 50 years ago or the you or  me, we will transform into in the future.

fading past << Past <<<< Out <<< ( * ) ( * ) <<<< In <<< Future <<<< dawning future

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@RationalMadman
Plenty of in between examples, the most blatant one is the human; the most irrefutably dominant species on the planet. We are the most collaborative species on the planet and if we want to be, the most aggressive as well. We mix it up like no other species does at all.
Yes, your correct and that is due to access metaphysical-1, mind/intelllect/concepts ergo language, as you had stated previously..

Humans have access to both special-case abilities ---ex wings to fly-- and generalized concepts via access to metaphsysical-1,  mind/intellect/concepts.


Humans woman Xx is most complex

Human male less complex Xy

Which animals fall inbetween these two extremmes I'm not sure and they may have or not have both dove and hawk. I dunno.

Worm is least complex animal with nervous system.



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@TheRealNihilist
Yesterday I was mustardness, today I am ebuc. Duhh WINK  Wink ;--)(--;

Yesterday I was hurting today I am not.

Yesterday I had younger genes today older genes,

Yesterday I was less familiar with others on this forum than today ergo, today I have new patterns of brain networking pathways to work with.

Yesterday I had more vegatables in me than today. 


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The evolution of Aggression.
er, you can be a well-reasoned aggressive individual and a highly emotional-thinking passive individual.
In the world of bdsm, there's highly intelligent doms and subs alike. In fact, I would argue that if you took the MOST intelligent creatures, most are aggro/dom. If you took the MOST dumb creatures, most are passive/sub but in the middle range there's great variety.
My paraphrasing Fuller was meant as a generalization. Ex vegatarian { dove } meat eater { hawk }.

Inbetween we have meat eaters that only eat already dead animals and animals that ill aggressively defending their foraging territory but not killing and eating the other animal.

Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts in  concert with its brains most compassionate and empathetic place, a dove.

Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts in concert with its brains flight, flight or sick-n-head engaged is the hawk.

Inbetween we have a dog that no-matter how badly you treat them remains loyal yet may attack or not another dog or cat etc.

We have turtles that couldnt{?} be aggressive even if they tried.

I dunno, cant bring any good inbetween examples to mind








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@Christen
With self-driving cars, we wouldn't have to worry about reckless/drunk drivers and traffic jams.
Ok, so you have no sense of humor.

Your not going to find dissagreement from me on this issue. We entered the digital age around 1947.

My first encounter was 1964 my older brother had a Japanese transistor radio --AM only hen--- that fiit into a shirt pocket.

The next experience many of us had was probably electronic digial lighiting in our car or home radios or aka trancievers.  Agan my brother had one and he sold it to me.

Then in 1982 the compact disc appeared.

I got a commodore 64 in late 80's. Atari was  the main personal computer competor with these low end computers and we play PONG with the square bits on a screen.

It is a and exponential acceleration in digital technological abilities to the masses.

We have diigital body parts for arms, limbs, hearts and brain.

Nevada was first state to legalize semi-autonomous semi-trucks on Interstates{?}.

Soon I will have a brain implant that will let me know when my car has reached the ocean and tell me that because of a software error the OS forget to remind me to get into the car before it drove away leaving me at home.   ( * ) ! ( * ) Wink, WInk....,.







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@TheRealNihilist
Simple but would like something concrete so that I can discuss it with you.
Fuller like to state, that each day were not the same person we were yesterday ergo we could tell you who we are today,  but tommorrow we would not be the same person.

Change is eternal where not is created nor lost, only transformed within finite Universe with a finite set of cosmic laws/principles and set of parameters or processes.

Uncertainty { seeming disorder } need not neccesitate chaos { seeming disorder }.

Uncertainty of mind is just the inability to find the eternally existent cause and effect ergo deterministic order.

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@Christen
I would want a self-driving car as my dream car.
Next you will want it to wash itself also......your just lazy....Wink, WInk ;--)(--;

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@Snoopy
The temperature rises are not uniform.  They are supposed to be more profound as you approach the polar regions according to the studies I've perused.

I dont see how any of your above is related to my previous reply to you, that I state again below.

1} Not if the rainfall occurs mostly  in some places and not in others, i..e over all world-wide consideration,

2} not if increased rainfall comes in downpours that tend to just runoff >>>>>  more rapidly into creeks and river and ultimately the oceans{s} that, are only going to rise.....^ ^ ^.....

You to really think  -educate yourself-- more about Erratic Climate Change short and potential long term effects.

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@RationalMadman
We also have to recall, that in those most ancient pre-history days some million{s} of years ago, these South Pacific peoples were probably pretty small { short } so a tiger would have taken even more aggressive measures ---more adrenaline?--   by these smaller peoples to subdue a larger tiger in comparison to the peoples size.

The tiger is the oversizedaggressive hawk and  the short sea faring less aggressive peopples.

...Larger tiger...(O) .. (O)....GROWL!!!

Smaller human ....o..o.....yikes!!!

Recall that in Ghost and the Lion movie with Val Kilmer that I first realized why the native african peoples had the large headress that went around their chin, sides of head and top of head.  It was to make them appear to have a large mane, as if they were Lion that is much taller than the lion.

The human used their mind to create the illusion of their being a taller Lion with a mane.

Also in the movie "The Gods have gone crazy, where the native father tells his young boy that if he is ever meets a hyena, that the boy must do something to make himself lool bigger than the hyena. So this happens later on and the boy picks a piece of tree bark offf the ground, and stands it on end on top of his head to makes himself look taller,.

MInd { intellect/reasoning/dove } over matter { brawn/muscle/hawk }.


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@Snoopy
It is speculated that climate change is going to continue on a path with an increasing average temperature and total amount of rainfall.  That will probably translate to an increase in arable land.
1} Not if the rainfall occurs mostly  in some places and not in others, i..e over all world-wide,

2} not if increased rainfall comes in downpours that tend to just runoff more rapidly into creeks and river and ultimately the oceans{s} that, are only going to rise..

You to really think  -educate yourself-- more about Erratic Climate Change short and potential long term effects.



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@RationalMadman
I am heavily into game theory and I believe in evolution strongly.
Fullers speculative pre-history of humans is a scenario  that has humanities beginnings in the South Pacific with less aggressive peoples, that, once they came onto the south east Asia mainland, encournted tigers and this MAY have led to humans aquiring a more aggresive nature.





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@TheRealNihilist
You failed to provide evidence and resorted to name-calling. 
1} You did not answer the same questions I askde you twice and not three times. Did you read the prior posts by me in this thread, for starters?

2} Find evidence and rational logical common sense in those posts,

3} I dont recall of finding any "name calling" in my last reply to you.  These 3 items are just furthe evidence that your dazed, confused and lack degrees of intellectual integrity.

PLease share when you want to have a rational, logical common sense disscussion.



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@TheRealNihilist
Garbage would eventually get high enough. If less people wasted it wouldn't be a problem. That isn't an overpopulation problem. 
Your confused, dazed, uneducated and in denial of the obvious.

Oh your a left winger. That argument would work for abortion since a fetus is a life. Are you going to ban abortion?
Yeah I am pro-humanity and  guns { weapons } will only lead to humanities  destruction.  This is a  minimal brainer for those who choose to follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.  Why you think I want to "ban abortion" lacks any rational logical common sense.

You like to say off the wall, diversionary, irrelevant stuff.  Bad sign for you intellectual integrity.

The research has already been done if you actually read my post #2. You would realize nuclear is safer than before.
Your living a dazed confused fantasy world brought to you by the energy companies and other profiteers.

Do you know how many coal mining accidents occur?  
Yeah dont answer the question and diverge away because you lack the intellectual integrity abillity to follow rational logical common sense pathways of thought. 

Wind not viable for every day.
You really are confused and uneducated human.

Hydro requires a ton of water and removing residents from their households near the water since it requires a lot of space to create.
Yeah dying from the detrimental effects of ionizing radiation is so much better, You confused dazed, ignorant and refuse to even attempt to follow rational logical common sense pathways of thought.


Hydro-thermal is basically extracting volcanoes. Are you telling me nuclear is worse than harvesting from a volcano?
Natural gas basically farts. Are you going to shove a energy storage up a cows backside or something?
Electrolysis requires electricity so you would need another energy source like solar panels generating it to make it happen.

Nuclear is safer now than in the past. That isn't ego.
Meangingless dribble as nuclear power will never be a safe answer for long term survival of humanity.  You lack the ability to follow rational logical common sense in these regards.

Keep avoiding the question and further show you lack of intellectual integrity.  Do you really think there are not going to be more signifcant ionizing nuclear accidents in the future?  Get real dude.


Humanity won't unify over energy it would have to be ideas.
IS that really the best you have to offer.  Idesa about energy population and all I mentioned previously is priority. Nor Mars nor nuclear power nor nuclear weapons production.  You are not able to attempt any raitonal logical common sense in these regards.

Lunatics, Mar-a-tics and Nuke-a-tics share a common traits, Waste of humanities valuable resouces when much greater priorities are at hand for immediate survival and long tern survival with least amount of surrering.  You dont get it and never will because your ego is in the way.

Ego is a double-edged sword that can offer the  greatest danger to humanity and greatest ideas.

Your ego that unifying humanity requires not using nuclear is more than my lack of ego while stating the facts of nuclear.
Yeah my ego has led me to follow rational, logical common sense on many various topics.  That is not a problem and none of them are invalid for long term survival of humanity.

Nukes are not smart for long term survival of humanity.  Common sense.  Please try it some time.

You have not anywhere provided evidence for your claims instead a analogy and some stuff about ego. Can you actually provide evidence or are you incapable of doing so?
Evidence that nukes are not the best way forward for humanity. You obviously have not read any my original posts in this thread.  I asked you have you did ---for starters-- and you refused to answer. Bad sign for you intellectual integrity. Avoid, diverge deny etc.

There is long list of why nukes is not the saviour for you humanity that you seem to think.  Yo need to go back and read my posts Ive laid out some of the answers to your questions why nukes and nuclear weapons wil make humanity extinct if Irratic Climate Change does not get us first.

Your head is in a hole in the ground listening to the energy companies pull he finincial profiteers wool of over your nose, ears, eyes, and mind.. Sad :--(


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@TheRealNihilist
Prove to me we have an overpopulation problem.
Were you around some years back when headline news was this barge of garbage in ocean that no country included USA could find a place for?
Get real { serious } dude.  Your playing mind games now.

This argument can work for guns. Are you for banning them as well?
First you correct "this argument works" and guns is distracting side issue to this thread and yes humanity has no need of guns except dart guns for tranquilizing wild animals and crazy white nationlist supermacists.

Nuclear energy is less impactful to the environment yet you are against it. What do you propose people use when we remove fossil fuels?
Not in the long run it is not, and nobody really knows the amount of cancers and genetic mutations that have resulted or will result from humans venture into nuclear power to date.  Do you really believe there are not many more nuclear accidents going to occur?  Your really ignorant if dont.

Wind, solar, hydro, hyro-thermal,  natural gas, hydrogen and if we can burn all  the garbage floating around on barges that no country wants without considerable pollutions to atmosphere, lets do it. 

Time moves and we can't stop it. If you are talking about energy advancement. Coal is older than nuclear therefore by using nuclear we are advancing.
Yeah, and when a smart ship Captain realizes his navigational error is going 180 degree in the incorrect direction, they drop their ego and turn to go forward in the correct direction. Duhh! Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.  You dont get that yet.

Mars and nuclear power and nuclear weapons are NOT the priority for a unified humanity that wants the longest days forward with the least amount of human sufferring. Please read my lips/text.

I agree which is why I am for nuclear energy if it means it replaces fossil fuels. 
Ergo you likened to the ship Captain that cannot drop their ego and change course. 

You never answered my question.  Did you not read my posts in this thread? For starters.


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@3RU7AL
@disgusted
Reality and Imagination.
Sleep walker states " I dreamed I was walking in my sleep".


Supernatural become natural as it becomes more common to more people ex general store led to super-stores.

Novas lead to super-novas.  Conceptual imaginary black holes led to discovery of black holes or at least three distinct types.

Local gods and concept of God led to more wholistically comprehensive sets we label as God/Uni-V-erse.

Humans access to metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts and ego { }  ergo complexity can be considered to be supernatural in respect to most other biological life.

Natural = simple and common

Super-natural = most complex and not common.

Uni-V-erse ergo God is the most complex set.

"U" ni-V-erse ergo "G" is even more complex set because it is inclusive of the macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces our finite Universe/God.  123, ABC thats how easy universe can be.

Aka the Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities.

Observed reality { /\/\/\/ } ergo Observed Time { /\/\/\/ } is based on triangulation 0, 3, 6, 12,15, 18 etc is rather simple for those who tend toward follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

...Space( > * < )   ( > * < )Space......

Gravity = (  ) positive shaped geodesic Space

Dark Energy = )(  negative shaped geodesic Space

/\/\/\/ = resultant of inversions from geodesics of gravity and dark energy

Significance of numerical 4.  Archimedes was first to discover that the area of internal, four circular hexagons that define a spherical cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron, are equal to the outer surface area of the same spherical cubo-octahedron and this is similar to black holes in that what exists inside a black holes is expressed on its even horizon surface.  This was first discoverd by Jacob bekenstien.

surface area of sphere = 4 * Pi * r^2

volume of a sphere = 4 / 3 * Pi * r^3

Surface Area = 4 × Pi^2 × Radius × radius LINK

Volume of torus = volume of cylinder = (cross-section area)(length)


..."This is hardly a rigorous proof, but I am hoping that it conveys a qualitativeunderstanding. The notion of cutting objects into thin, measurable slicesis essentially what integral calculus does. Archimedes was practicing thismethod about 1900 years before the era of Leibnitz and Newton."...

Line 1} .....1..........5....7.............11......13............Gravity outer surface of torus all primes except  2 and 3 and non-prime odds


Line 2}..0.................6.....................12..................Observed Time/Reality...triangulated no primes
Line 3}............3................9..........................15....Observed TIme/Reality...triangulated and one prime


Line 4}.........2....4...........8....10..................14........Dark Energy inner surface of torus is all evens and one prime


These four lines exist as four semi-great circles of a specifically defined numerical, helical torus with inversion-outversions{ >< }






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@dylancatlow
But apparently you liberals only heard the words you wanted to. 
I'm not famaliar with that web site ergo I have no reason to trust its validity.

This does not address any of my other comments as stated, and your the one who is ignoring. Not I.

Trump and all of his racists, white nationalist supremacists need to be banned.

Please share when you want to stop ignoring truth and encouarging racist, bigoted white nationalist supremacist.

So now lets here from Moscow Mitch { Putins bitch } who is another supporter of racist, bigoted. white nationalist supremacism.

Trump has grown the swamp of immorality and violence.  Trump has surrounded himself with only the worst and you Dyncatlow are in denial of these truths.  Why? Because your ego and spiritual soul is ashamed. As it well should be. Sad :--(





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When does cheating payoff?
50% of the time for the cheater.

When does cooperation payoff?
100% of the time for the cooperators

When does forgiveness payoff?

100% of the time for the forgivers and those they forgive.

And eye for and eye leaves the whole world blind

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Why?
Did you not read any of my posts in this thread? For starters

No Nukes is a minimal brainer Just Say No To Nukes is not a rocket science conclusion for those who follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

1} we have a human population problem for some of the  dangerous systems  ---nukes and coal---  we have in place to supply the energy needs being asked for,

2} parts of humanity are not  being considerate of its actions and dangerous resultants thereof i.e. humanity has yet learned to prioritize what is best for humanity,

3} both 1 and 2 can only be addressed significantly via a unified humanity that does not place financial profit above ecological environment that sustains all biological life on Earth,

4} humans are going butt forward into the future instead mind forward ergo the resultant is a bruising of humanities 'butt' over and over and over again and again and again. Ex over hunting whales,

5} all of the above require a comprehensive wholistic set of considerations, that, could be done independantly with computer modeling just as humans have done with climate modeling, however, the scale and desire{ spirit } to do this has to be driven by a broad base coalition of humans spiritual intent on finding options forward for the longest term survival with the least amount of human suffering,

6} ??? what am I forgeting ?? in all of the above ??







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@dylancatlow
I want to know your source.

I'm seeing today that Trump disbanded domestic violence officials and downgraded the person who led that task force.

And the financial resources were cut for those task forces.

Dylacatlow, your in denial and continue to promote and encourage the  sick-n-the-head actions of this immoral racist white nationlist president.

Wasnt Steve Bannon a white nationalist? He is sick-n-the-head just like trump and all of their cult followers. Sad :--(

...."We're the platform for the alt-right," Bannon said in July, using a term that is really just a rebranding of traditional white nationalism. 
Under Bannon, Breitbart published a call to “hoist [the Confederate flag] high and fly it with pride” only two weeks after the Charleston massacre when the country was still reeling from the horrors of the murders.
Under Bannon, Breitbart published an extremist anti-Muslim tract where the author wrote that “rape culture” is “integral” to Islam."....

.....The Trump administration has invited multiple right-wing figures and conservative groups to a “social media summit” slated for July 11. Some of these figures have ties to white nationalists and far-right figures, and others have pushed extremism and conspiracy theories themselves, such as the “QAnon” conspiracy theory, anti-Semitic attacks on George Soros, and smears targeting multiple Democratic presidential candidates."...


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@dylancatlow
That you choose to denounce him for "failing to speak out against" a group of people he condemned by name suggests that your emotions may be getting in the way here. I call what you're saying a "lie" because it is directly contradicted by Trump's statement following the Charlottesville car attack.
Never have I ever seen him denounce white nationlist supremeacist. Never until today is what I stated and if you have evidence he spoke specifically against white nationlistic supremacist in past, please share the evidence.  I ve never seen it.

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Are you against nuclear energy?
For the most part yes. I guess I had not been clear enough in this thread.

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Contrary to what he is allowed to claim, Trump *is* something very close to a White Nationalist and the Left is right to be terrified.
The wicked evil he speaks of starts in his own soul.  He has not not spoke-out against white national supremacist   ---because of his primarily white nationalist cultist base of Trump followers--- until  today.  He has seen the writing on the wall that it his own rhetoric that is major part of inciting this violence.

What this narcissists will never  do is admit his part in inciting this white national supremacist violence.

  He can only barely allow himself to equate white national supremacist with terrorism.  His words are meaningless dribble.

HIs God blessing on Toledo and Texas   ---not El Paso--- rings so hollow it makes me want to puke on the ground that rascist like Trump walk.

All of the resources Trumpmention teh FBI and law enforcment are doing because they know what is moral thing to do.

Trump only feigns morality because the his immorality is so clearly spread with blood in El Paso an shouts of hate and violence at his Trump rallies.

Ban Trump Now!





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@Christen
Many of these illegal aliens are going to continue to remain in the country until they are caught and deported, instead of voluntarily turning themselves in.
Yeah and in most case continue to provide services to USA citizens who want them, for lesser price if not a better job.

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@Alec
-Cheapest form of energy

False

-Safest form of energy

False

-Reduces atomic bomb count

False

-Cleanest for the environment

False

-Pro tools are in place to prevent a meltdown.

Good luck and Good night Humanity!

-Lasts for tens of thousands of years

Some of its byproducts last even longer. Please educate yourself before expsousing so much falsehoods. Thank you.

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@Swagnarok
The shooter was most certainly an unstable person to begin with, looking for any excuse to do some "big" thing like this. Because the logic behind his actions make little sense.
Yeah so a little push from a friend ---or president of USA--- is all he needed to pull the trigger. USA has some sad immoral people to vote for the immoral, narrrcisitic pychotic, racist and bigoted Trump.

So add in Moscow Mitch and Putin and we now have  white national supremacy in white house. Go figure.

Some people want apocalypse to arrive sooner rather than later and Trump is excellent candidate for apocalypse  on Earth Moon or Mars. Dude is sick-n-the-head as I presume most of his cult followers are.


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The culprit is always, universally, a human being.

Edited: Thats true, I cant recall the last time I saw any less complex animal shooting, bombing or driving a vehicle over one or more people at a mall parking lot, concert etc.

To some the obvious answer is more guns in hands of more people along with:

more body armor......ma, get your body armor on before you go shopping at the mall.

more explosive bullets.......pa, pick up  a pack of those new hollow point body armor piercing bullets

gadgets that will disable vehicles------ma, get one of those new vehicle disabling electronic gadgets

guide to hateful speech channels..........pa, purchase one of those guide to latest hate speech channels

electronic specific targeting handgrenades........ma, buy a a few of those electronic handgrenades

Top ten best selling movies by genre LINK

1} adventure....are there adventure movies without gun/weapons violence?

4} comedy....and what percentage of those also involve gun/wepaons violence?

9) documentary...........what percentage of those involve gun/weapons violence?




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