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@3RU7AL
3r, your confused. No where have I stated what your suggesting. stick to truth and facts and your make more rational, logical common sense.
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@Greyparrot
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated something the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
Orange parrot still a nonsense tooter
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@3RU7AL
Not everyone who disagrees with you is "an idiot".
Thats ture 3r, but I dont recall calling anyone an idiot recently, and it doesent mean that some portion of your "everybody" does not have idiotic tendencies with their oppinnions.
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@sadolite
....'Nothing from nothing leaves nothing, you got have something, if your going to be with me'.......song I heard on radio the other day
Universe comes with happiness, sadness and all degrees in between. i'm happy to have discovered the geometric princples of;
toroidal, positively curved Gravity ( ) in dieametric oppostion to,
toroidal, negatively curved Dark Energy )(, and the resultant of those two, and the resultant
inside the toroidal tube, sine-wave /\/\/\/\/\/\ patterned and associated physical/reality aka Observed Time
I'm happy with my discoveries, there trinary correlation to my Cosmic Trinity Outline. Its trinary turtles al the way to the micro-bottom from the macro-top, of occupied Space Universe.
I'm happy that these discoveries are related to my geometric disoveries regarding prime number patterns in semi-linear 2D rows of four, semi-linear 2D rows of four when inside-outed, and with hexagonal pattern rows of prime only falling on two radii, on each side of radii with no primes.
Gravity ( 1, 5-7, 11-13, 17-19, 23----25......etc ) ....peak of positive geodesic curvature
Observed Time /\/\/ 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18,....etc /\/\/\/ inside the toroidal tube
Dark Energy )( 2, 4, 8, 10, 14, 16, etc )( ...peak of negative geodesic curvature
If want to understand Universe, begin at the top of my Cosmic Trinity Outline, that, I was so happy to discover and pass on those in search of cosmic truths.
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@Greyparrot
You Trumpet and his supporters are the largest con in USA ergo your still speaking orange parrot nonsense. Sad :--(
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated something the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
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@Greyparrot
Trust Con-gress to take care of things.
I trust those sick-n-head, Trumpet republicans, and you, about as far as I could throw one of them,or you, and that's not very far.
You still speaking Orange parrot nonsense, cause you have nothing valid to say in regards to Trump. Oh thats right four years later you finally stated somehting the other day. I gave you point 1 out of five for whatever it was. I may have been too generous with you. Jail Trumpet and his supporters NOW!
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@TheUnderdog
Why do you think Trump supporters should be jailed? Your talking about jailing roughly half the country. Seems extreme.
As my mother always stated, where there's a will, there's a way. Of course the will cannot violate inviolate cosmic laws/principles.
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@Death23
First of all, I didn't contradict myself.
Yes you did and Ive pointed it out out you twice. This is the kind of false narrative Trumpet and his cronies have been doing for past four years.
I suspect you voted for Trump or condoned his false narratives at one time or another And you have not yet addressed the specific contradictory comments.
Address those specific contradicitons Ive mentioned or please do not respond to any more comments by me in this thread.
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@Death23
I think we're better off just letting him go.
This is twice youve contradicted you statement in post #40. I think you may be a confused extremist.
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@FLRW
Maybe Trump could be locked in a bunker with Melania?
No, He should be isolataed from all direct human contact. Melania, like him and at at least two thirds of his USA supporters should all have some degree of moral education regarding truth in while in some degree of incarceration. Incarceration reflects consequences even it were to become a regular policy of global united government.
He should have moral education about truth taught to him by all of the women he dispised --if they so choose-- and when the women ask for mens assistance only then should men be involved in his moral re-education in the bunker.
In the Iroqui nation, women chose the male chief. Men should sit quietly until the women ask them to speak.
Female manages me { male }
Males { time } move with womens discretion to do so on matters that effect more than than just the male local sphere of influence. The women majority or two thirds vote, or whatever and the men then accept the vote.
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@Death23
That's pretty much my reasoning as to why we're better off just letting him go.
You said the extreme opposite in post #80 and I replied accordingly. Your jumping from one extremme to another. This is typical of people unclear as to whether call me a genius or crazy. These people having trouble with the moderation of their intellectual ability, in regards to ebucs ideas, scenarios etc.
Jailing him is not and eye for eye scenario. Jailing is about consequences of his and others actions that require justice, fairness, forgiveness , compassion and above all truth!
Forgiveness and compassion means not a death penalty as you stated.
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@Death23
Trump should be put to death for treason.
I'm not for capital death penalty. Tho I'm not sure why its called 'capital'.
......'And and eye for and eye leaves the whole world blind'.... Mahatma Ghandi
Just saw this on CNN, ..' the man has access to nuclear codes, but he is not allowed to have a twitter account'..
There is only one statement we need to hear from all of these Trumpet tooters,....jail him NOW!...Jail him NOW!...jail him NOW!....
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Trumpet Tooters
.........Ebuc....
Trumpet tooters, please leave this place,
All your nonsense, only looses face.
Trumpet tooters, please take a ride,
Red capped freaks, you've no place to hide.
Trumpet tooters, sick-n-the-head,
See a doctor, leave your immoral's in bed.
Trumpet tooters, on truth they attack,
Stop the lies, as truth tends to fight back.
Trumpet tooters, break the glass,
While Kamala, Harris, shatters Republican ass.
Trumpet tooters, ego in hand,
Stroking falsehoods, across the land.
Trumpet tooters, have had their say,
Now they should sleep, in the barn in the hay.
Trumpet tooters, tooted their horns,
Some still remain, to our moral forlorn.
Trumpet tooters, please stuff it now,
Take a hike, since you we disavow.
Trumpet tooters, its not too late,
Seek the truth, not immoral hate.
Trumpet tooters, on an immoral high,
Please shut your mouths, or, just say goodbye.
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@Death23
It’s time to move on.
Time and change "moves on" irrespective of all else. What ever person in USA and world should be saying is;
Trumpet his son and Rudy should be jailed now! Anything else is a lack of truth and moral considerations for all of humanity.
This is serious business that has been glossed over for four years and enough is enough should have been the motto for all four years ago with Trumpets first lies regarding how many people were at his inaugaration. The lies and falsehoods and false narrative only kept occuring day after day after day.
All who have immmorally supported Trumpet immoral nonsense should be also face the consequences of their immoral actions, by jail time, to whatever degree is fair and just.
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@Greyparrot
@3RU7AL
@Tradesecret
@zedvictor4
HB....Trump should be impeached for this.
GP....I hope he is too. The people need to be taught a lesson here. When you decide to invade the capitol building, the result will be a 2-year Congressional impeachment of an ex-president.
GP { orange parrot } I give you a 1 out of 5 rating for finally placing your Trumpet associated ego to the side. However, since you know impeachment is most likely not going to happen, you need to state the truth of consequence's that should befall Trumpet, his son and Rudy, they should be jailed for their immoral criminal actions .
Your ego has supported and encouraged Trumpets immoral lies for four years and enough is enough. Trumpet has been purporting a false narrative set of lies that have incited/inflamed the kinds of people who attacked the capital and I dont believe you have acknowledged this truth and fact.
GP....People need to trust authority again.
GP, that should have began with you and your ilk trusting the most secure USA election in USA history. Most places had a paper ballot to verify the electronic vote. There is no evidence to invalidate these truths and facts.
HB.....I hope McConnel lets it happen.
GP....He got fired. Don't you read the news?
GP, that is false. To be fired McConnel would have lost his senate election last time around. The individual motivations of the people to vote in Biden is not clearly expressed and known.
Authority is in charge now.
Trumpet has been the leading USA authority and you and your ilk have supported all of the many case of psychotic, narrcistic, racist, bigoted and inciting lies for four years if not longer. And for four years I believe your and your ilk should also have been jailed for such immoral behaviour that pinnacle this past week with the attack on USA's capital.
All of Trumpest roads leads to Putin, irrespective of whether whats his name could find crimminal actions. There were crimminal actions by some and they were charged, jailed and given asylum{?} by immoral Trumpets immoral actions.
How much time you and your kind should spend in jail is debateble. There needs to be consequences for your types repeated immoral actions over last four years that have only incited and inflamed a false narrative that encouraged the attack on USA capital and death of 5 or more persons. Sad :--( on your part and others for these past four years. Truly sick. :--( in the head.
Ego is the biggest danger to humanity. Trumpet should go to jail NOW!
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@Polytheist-Witch
Send this Trumpet to jail NOW! And I hope you suppor that otherwise, I dont really want to hear you rely to any of my posts again any more Polytheist-Witch, until you do.
Keep your response to others until then. not me.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I think any Democrat is as corrupt as Trump. I think all Americans are sick of shit politicians.
Duhh, no one had to be a mind reader when you spout this nonsense above. Your a Trumpet tooter at heart and I believe have tooted his lies enough times that you should be jail for some amount of time. I dunno.
When Trumpet, his family and Rudy were inciting/inflaming the crowd, he stated 'were going to march to the capital'...what a load of BS, cause he did not march with them to the capital. Send this Trumpet to jail NOW! And I hope you suppor that otherwise, I dont really want to hear any more of Polytheist-Witch until you do.
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@Polytheist-Witch
I did not vote for Trump either time. It's a nice try though.
I didnt say you voted for Trumpet. Not that I believe anything you would say. Did you vote against --voter for Hillary?-- or speak out at any time against Trumpets many lies in the last four years other immoral behavior?
Doesnt matter what you say, I think I know where your heart is and I feel it avoids truth like the plague, just as Trumpet does. but perhaps to greater degree. I dunno cause I only know what I feel about your from your posts here since I been here.
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@Greyparrot
..Because we have been indoctrinated for 4 years from state media that Trump is the source of all problems...
Media has presented more truths in 4 years than Trumpet has done in 50 years.
We attempted indocrination by Trumpet lies and non-sense from his supporters who have helped spread more of his lies and lack of moral integrity than any other president in our lifetimes.
All of this four years of his and your nonsense has incited and inflamed emotions that exploded Jan 6th at USA capital building.
I think a third of those who paticipated by tootin the same in lies and falsehoods Trumpet has false purported for 4 years should be in jail.
That may or may not include you. How long you and them should e in jail for consistent failure of moral integrity that led to Jan 6th riot, is debateble.
30 days? 6 months? 360 days? Sad and sick bunch of racist and bigots to whatever degree. Racism should be a crime as all acts of immoral behaviour that denies and turns blind eye to truth.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Elected is elected. Biden is President now. Let's see what happens
Millions of Trumpets world still dont believe that. It appears that you have finally begun to barely place your ego and Trumpet nonsense to the side to let in a very small hint of truth.
You and the other your immoral Trumpet tooters need to be jailed.. We only see a small number of world wide Trumpet tooters, that, synergetically, represent a a danger to humanity and we cannot allow their immoral behaviour to continue forwared their lies, mis-information, dis-information and conspiracy non-sense that inflames and incites combative attitude of peoples unstable lack or moral and intellectual integrity. Sad very sad.
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@Polytheist-Witch
Ive been stating that Trumpet has been unfit for presidency from day one and,
only now has his golfing buddy Lindsay graham decided enough is enough! Duh, Linsay, your only getting it now that your golfing buddy has been unfit of president since day one.
These republicans walk in fear of truth and 74 million people who vote for Trumpet. Republicans have been supporting this narrcisstic unstable psychotic, racist and bigoted human for way way too long. Sad then and sad now.
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@Theweakeredge
What do we get instead? A massive riot hanging confederate flags and threatening bombs.
WEdge, good luck trying to find rational, logical common sense in these Trumpet tooters. At least a third of them are as immoral as is he. They and him need to be jailed now as they are represent a synergetic danger to humanity.
Another third are misguided by mis-information and disinformation, and,
the other third are ignorant adults who are lost, without any leader to lead them around by the hand.
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@3RU7AL
Well, some people are really good at "pretending".
That correct it is a pretense. Your finally begining to get it.
Did the N.A. indians deed the land to the white Europeans? No.
The white Europeans brought their systems of Royal { real-estate } Divine God given individual land rights to N. America and forced it upon the indians.
It is absurd. Some human owns a mountain and they sell water that flows from melting ice to all the people along the stream of run-off? Its absurd.
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@3RU7AL
You dont get it that no one owns the Earth or the sky. It is non-sense way of thinking.
The Royal { God-divine } King granted some ownership of land. God/Universe does not grant any set of person{s} onwer-ship of Earth and sun.
This the basic system for checks and balances,
Self enterprise { innovations } ...begins with basic need ex air, water, food shelter...
Government { governance } ...elected etc by what ever amount humanity can agree upon....
Spiritual integrity { moral-intellectual-energy }...begins with basic needs ex air, water, food shelter...
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@zedvictor4
Just pack him off to Scotland with his golf clubs......Nope! Another bad idea.....Keep him over there for goodness sake.
I heard rumor that Scotland said not to Trumpet living there. Aga, Ive been stating from day one to those Trunpet supporters here at DArt, that Trumpet and some portion of his supporters should be in jail.
Part of the reason Trumpet wants to remain president, is he wont have to face crimminal and civil charges against him.
120 house republicans last night voted to dis-infracnhise the Pennsylvania voters.
They and the 6 senators are morally and intellectually inept, just as Trumpet is. These are glaringly obvious truths, for those can place their ego to the side ---ha, good luck with that--- and seek truth. Mitt Romney said it clearly last night.
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@3RU7AL
Capitalism is more unfettered { unrestrained } than socialism on all issues. You dont seem to get that.
We all co-share and co-inahabit a finite planet with finite resources
What is old indian saying, how can you sell the sky? Or something like that.
We all own the Earth and we need to act accordingly so as we govern Earth to sustain the ecology for longest possible term.
Some may be greeted more areas usage than others as is deemed neccessary by elected body or otherwise.
Checks and balances ex Self enterprise { innovations } >< Government { governance } >< Spiritural integrity { moral-intellectual-energy }
You dont seem to get that all other systems of governance have been chasing or attempting to prove their system is better..Free market capitalism allows the smallest few to do most damamge to ecology via their greed and greed of all peoples.
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Ive been stating to the the other Trumpet encuragers and others here lacking moral integrity, Trumpet not only needs to go to jail, he and some of his supporters are either are currently in jail --some given aysylum by Trumpet--- others put in jail to day, more to go to jail sooner, rather than later, moral USA citizens hope for in justice and fairnes.
The 5th amendent should have been invoked on Trumpet many years before he ever run for president, Narrcisstic, racist, bigoted crimminal as are those who continue to support him. 6 senators vote aye! Aye for aye leaves the whole world bliind, unless your part of the uneccesary violence.
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@Jasmine
His formulaic answer to relating primes to Pi is minimally beginng at 27:00 minutes or shortly after. Why the 4? Ahh, Achimedes discovered that and I believe I explained that in this thread and others here at DArt.
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@Jasmine
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@K_Michael
Without counting and specificall more complex multiplication and division, much of what you consider is not possible.
Sea-people navigation involves trigonmetry. The difficulty with Roman Numerals is non-surmountale to complex calculations of multiplication, division etc and they are all fundamentals of trigonmetry.
The greatest of ancient scientist/mathematician/inventor was Archimedes --in great city of learning/knowledge Alexandry { that Romans burnt down 3 times }---who approximated Pi with geometric processes.
Phonetics { phonecian sea-peoples } > printing press { mass-production } > mass eduecational knowldege spread, that includes counting language that preceded written language y thousands of years.
I am not a math person i.e. math is a struggle for me, so in this following LINK, It is a huge struggle and my eyes and brain gloss over. The point of it for me, in sending to you, is the connection between geometry and numerical math.
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@K_Michael
Abacus was precursor to Algebra and universe use of Arabic numeral system. Oldest know abcus's found in China had 13 columns. That is trillions.
You cant do complicated math with Roman numerals. It was the Moors of northen Africa who brought Arabic numearl system to Europeans
Phonetics --sea-going phonician peples-- also took us out of pictographic era into universal common language even tho many at that time found it a confusing tower of babylon.
We agree on printing press.
All of my above were one Bucky Fuller wrote about in "Critical Path" and perhaps in some of his other books.
E = mc^2 and industrial age may be the death toll bell for humanity. 2232, or there about is my best guess for end date fof humanity. I have thread on how I came to that date in Society.
Digital age results in exponential expansion of know-how.
The hyrid fermion may superpass all known quantum computing technology cause of its ease of use and ability to do so much more than current quantum computing scenarios.
Again most of the above is associated with Fullers thoughts. They all have two common threads counting and communication. Zero was key to counting that does so much more than Roman numerals could even begin to accomplish.
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@3RU7AL
Socialism (EMPLOYEE OWNERSHIP) doesn't "solve" this "problem".
False. You lacking rational, logical common sense on this issue.
Capitalism is more unfettered than socialism on all issues. You dont seem to get that.
Socialism in its best form has more checks and balances. Spirituality has to be part of the checks and balance's of any operating system that wants to survive the longest term.
Fettered is better operationally except in emergencys, when basic needs, need to be met sooner rather than later because of risk of leg or life.
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@3RU7AL
Capitalism does no such thing. some
Yes free market capitalism is free to do what ever it pleases ---except for government regulations, that change on a whim with whoever is power---- to ecological systems that sutain humans s being exploited by corporations that have no soul, only profit policys.
And so it goes with lack of moral and intellectual integrity that allows human-kinds greed and freedom to over-populate Earth, of the systems of operations we currently use, to proliferate as if there is no end to what can humans can accomplish on Earth.
Socialism has always played 2nd fiddle to capatilism ergo their drive to compete and show its way is better has not nor every will do, because of the latter I mentioned above.
1} incentive can be accomplish via various ways that do not continue to rip-off Earths resources unfettered, and over-populate the Earth
.......1a} some financial disparity if find, as long as that all that are able to work contribute in significantly meaningfull ways to the support of self and greater whole,
.......1b} ownership is ok also, but again with some limitations on so as dispartiy is minimalize to some degree as agreed upon by 51% of peole, or 60% or 80% etc,
........1c} incentive can also be a game with prizes such as ego recognition by the greater humanity and that includes local and those who specialize in the area the some one makes significant discoveries, inventions ideas etc,
.........1d} the process to aquire further resource to further ones freedom to create is limited and regulated and perhaps even voted on with various ways veto power or override power that enable or not some one to aqurie finances or tools or space to move further with their creative endeavors,
........1e} as far as creative endeavors go, we always start with the basics for and go from there, i.e. if hot water is not a basic then how to get hot water, or power to do this or that or another, i.e. we do not need another kind of rocket ship then another then another etc, an same goes for a steel, shovels etc before the basic needs are covered first.
Here is another example how many kinds of plastic toy do we need to continually invent and mass-produce only to eventually add to a large pool of plastic in the ocean?
Those who recognize limits and that humanity is way over its ecological limits, are ignorant, in denial or worse ex just plain greedy and narrcistic.
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@Sum1hugme
Why call the universe god?
Because it is the way my mother taught me i.e. God is everything. I think of things as our finite, occupied space Universe, ergo, in order to more inclusive of Metaphysical-1 mind/intelect/concepts I use the labelings in italics below and that leads two differrent understandings of word Universe and God in the most comprehensive, wholistic outline I know to exist.
If you have a better one please share. You do not nor does anyone else.
"U"niverse exists and labeled as "G"od and is inclusive of the Cosmic Trinity Outline
1} eternally Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts ex concepts of God, Universe, Time, Space, footballs, trucks etc,
.....note here above italics of "U"niverse and "G"od are representative of #1 as well as following #2 and 3.......
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2} eternally existent, Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied Space,
3} eternally existent, yet finite, occupied space Universe aka God or Uni-V-erse ergo Observed Time physical reality ....as associated with sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/\/
......3a} fermions, bosons and any hybrid fermions as well as any collective manifestation of this set ex atoms molecules, planets etc,
.........3b} Metaphysical-3{ spirit-3} mass-aattractive { contractive } Gravity ( ) aka geodesically positive ( ) curved Space ( ),
.........3c} Metaphysical-4 { spirit-4} mass-repulsive { expansive } Dark Energy )( aka geodesically negative )( curved Space )(.
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@FLRW
FLRW, a lumpy loaf of raisin bread is finite and the dough expands and carrys the raisins { galaxies } with it as it expands.
Any finite phenomena has a geometric center related to its outer surface boundaries. Even if the boundaries are in dynamic change, lumpy or other-wise.
Any talk of infinite occupied space is ignorance of wholistic integrity, as infinite cannot have cannot be niether whole nor have systemic or structural integrity.
These people who want to go off into infinite Universe cannot even barely grasp our finite Universe. Just ignorance spouting out nonsense.
..........................Space( * ) i ( * )Space..............................
Take a concept of a square and find its 2D center, now fold square into a tube and find the 3D center. Now conceptually fold tube around to meet itself and locate the both prior make center points.
A balloon has a center 3D volume. Let air out of balloon and and place scissors into the opening and cut on trajectory to the approximate, diametric other end of the balloon and lay it out as if in a 2D area. It will have wrinkles and folds but all of that topology can be accounted for and we find exact center as related to the 2D area of the
laid out balloon.
Our sun Sol, has a degree of sphericity, yet a changing center point can be assigned to its minute changing outer geometric surface distance over at least three seperate meaurements, tho the more the merrier for refinning accuracy.
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@Sum1hugme
"U"niverse exists and labeled as "G"od and is inclusive of the Cosmic Trinity Outline
1} eternally Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts ex concepts of God, Universe, Time, Space, footballs, trucks etc,
.....note here above italics of "U"niverse and "G"od are representative of #1 as well as following #2 and 3.......
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2} eternally existent, Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied Space,
3} eternally existent, yet finite, occupied space Universe aka God or Uni-V-erse ergo Observed Time physical reality ....as associated with sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/\/
......3a} fermions, bosons and any hybrid fermions as well as any collective manifestation of this set ex atoms molecules, planets etc,
.........3b} Metaphysical-3{ spirit-3} mass-aattractive { contractive } Gravity ( ) aka geodesically positive ( ) curved Space ( ),
.........3c} Metaphysical-4 { spirit-4} mass-repulsive { expansive } Dark Energy )( aka geodesically negative )( curved Space )(.
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@Danielle
i { ego } is Metaphyisical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/conceptual abstraction
ego = i .....self identity listens and feeds back to self and others with neutral fixation on self or others first or 2nd.......
Ego = I......I comes first, and feedback others is always 2ndary....
EGO = I...narccistist....I is above all others and feedback to self defines reality that reduces all others to lesser significance always......
>>>>>Past>>>Arrow-of-time>>>>>In( * ) i ( * )Out>>>Arrow-of-time>>>>>>Future>>>>>>
................................................Space( * ) i ( * )Space.....................................................
<<<<<Flow-of-Time.<<<<S.....Out..( * ) i ( * )<<<In<<<<<<<<Flow-of-Time<<<<<Future<<<<
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@janesix
If we live in finite Universe, there has to be a center. And if the finite Universe is in eternally dynamic change then the abstract geometric center of Universe changes, relative to all of the celestial objects that are also dynamically in motion.
Our sun has high degree of sphericity , however, its geometric center changes relative to its outer boundary and same goes for our eternally existent, dynamically changing, finite Universe.
Anything else you've read is non-sense. Rational logical common sense has most answers to all questions.
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@Intelligence_06
Nevermind
Another option is ever mind
XYZ, the culture of three,
Mother Father and me,
Moms X, the Barr x and Dad's 'y', you see?
Gravity, Dark Energy and the resultant Reality,
Yaw, pitch or roll there's no escape the three,
Throw in four diagonals and now we have small 'd',
Inner space, outer space, its all in the degree,
We ring in the new spirit, all in jest and glee.
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@Intelligence_06
3rutal joins Ebuc on the “no one can understand this topic” tier.
You may wish to not understand anything I say, however, this is first Ive ever heard of the crazy lizard-alien culture conspiracies that may be have led to QAnon non-sense. BS and Piled Higher and Deeper. 2231 is my guess for end-date of humanity on Earth.
Yahoo news LINK..."The so-called lizard people conspiracy theory has taken a back seat to some of the newer and more widely publicized baseless beliefs that have come to dominate the conspiracy landscape in recent years. But in 2013, a survey conducted by Public Policy Polling found that 12 million Americans believed that the country was run by lizard people in suits.
....In some ways, lizard people believers were a precursor to QAnon, the insidious pro-Trump conspiracy movement that has snowballed from the dark corners of the internet into mainstream social media feeds and even the halls of Congress over the last three years."...
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@sadolite
You are a confused person who only wants to believe what you think and not interested rational, logical common sense as well direct, circumstantial and anecdotal evidence of what is is truth. Sad :--( Your appear to me as to be likened to some religous fundamentalist who are not interested in truth.
I am demonized by politicians and scientists on a daily bases. That is 100% proof to me that their science is flawed. That cant convince me using science. For example: "So called science" tells me that wearing anything as a mask helps prevent the spread of a virus. This, according to all mask manufactures is a complete and total lie. Not one mask manufacturer will say this or endorse this claim if the mask you are wearing is not specifically designed to filter a virus. Mask manufactures can not and will not make this claim not now not ever. If is a bold face lie and to say otherwise would be grounds for immediate civil law suits and criminal prosecution to the m ask manufactures. Who has better science and more believable science? Mask manufactures. Yet I am mocked and demonized by govt and "so called science" for questioning their science when all confirmable evidence says they are dead wrong.
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@sadolite
MMR is a proven tested vaccine over decades.
We agree
I question the testing of the covid vaccine and you hate that.
False
I question all science. And when someone resorts to demonizing me because I don't immediately buy into it it I know the science is flawed.
I dont recall "demoniizing " you about CoV2 vaccine. You may need to redirect that comment to some else you have in mind.
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@Jarrett_Ludolph
Could the really be a multiverse?
"could" = is it possible?
I dont think it is possible, since, Gravity coheres all occupied space as one { Uni }.
Multi-verse --multiple set of local universe's-- invokes the idea that seperate Universe's are moving away from each other at speeds, just beyond that of EMRadiation.
This is in a similar vein --not exactly the same-- as our current understanding of our expanding Universe and repulsive Dark Energy, wherein most galaxies are speeding away --and gaining speed-- from each other. This is the loaf of rasin bread, in the oven scenario, where the raisins are likened to galaxies and dough is the Dark Energy space between galaxies or, multiple local universe's.
1} the space between local universes is alledged to be expanding at speeds faster than radiation, ergo no two local universe's every meet and there cannot be unification as a/the, wholistically one, Universe,
2} the space between galaxies or local universe's is expanding then that space is an occupied space, ergo all are connected i.e. a line-of-relationship exists between them all ergo one unified wholistic set,
3} there is no infinite set of local universe's. There is one finite set ergo wholistically integral set of systemic and structural relationships, that, can never get outside of the positive geodesic curvature that cohere's them as one finite set.
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@sadolite
Since I was born before 1957, my bodys cell have memory of MMR diesease and needs no MMR vaccine.
I dont know if Ive ever had German measles. 'Im fairly sure that Ive never had Co-V-2. This is one reason why it is more dangerous than any flu virus, that, Ive most humans have probably been exposed to many times over their lives, ergo, my cells memory is prepared for the flu virus.
Every thing Ive read about the Co-V-2 --and (enveloped) corona virus-- is that is a mutation of non-human animal virus.
Apparrently there is some conspiracists out there who believe Co-V-2 mutation was caused by 5G technology and that is one of the concerns for why the Nashville TN sucide bomber exploded his RV next to AT&T.
...."The first link John Gregory saw pushing a connection between 5G and the coronavirus pandemic was on a French conspiracy website called Les moutons enragés, which loosely translates as “The rabid sheep.”
....A January 20 post floated that the millimeter wave spectrum used by 5G technology and Covid-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, could be related, pointing to reports about Wuhan installing 5G towers before the outbreak.
....Three months later, conspiracy theorists making similar claims were setting cellphone towers on fire in Europe.
...Gregory, a senior analyst at the internet trust tool NewsGuard, caught an early glimpse of the 5G coronavirus conspiracy theory, but it didn’t take long before the fake news started to spread. Two days after the French blog post, a Belgian newspaper called Het Laatste Nieuws published an interview with a local doctor, who floated the unfounded claim that the coronavirus outbreak could be linked to 5G cellphone towers installed near Wuhan in 2019.
....The article was taken down within hours, but the theory had already spread to English-language Facebook pages. Gregory wasn’t surprised.".....
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@Mopac
Ultimate Reality
Phyiscal reality is what we experience and quantize ergo Observed Time and is associated with the sine-wave /\/\/\/ pattern aka fermions and bosons.
What underlies---actually more correctly identified as, what overlies physical/reality is;
1} Metaphysical-3 geodesic, positively curved Gravity ( ) and,
2} Metapysical-4, geodesic, negatively curved Dark Energy )(.
.............................Space( * ) i ( * )Space..................................
( ) = outer surface of torus ---an occupied space---
)( = inner surface of torus---and occupied spae
i = Metpahysical-1 ego via mind/inllect/concepts ---beyond { meta-space }Space i.e. concepts of space and not occupied or non-occupied space--
* * = physical reality of biological consciousness { our soul/heart/brain etc}
.......non-occupied space......................( reality ) non-occupied space ( reality )..............non-occupied space...................
...........non-occupied space..........( /\/\/ ) non-occupied space (/\/ )...........non-occupied space.......................
Because our finite, occupied space is composed of many tori, they overlap an interfere ergo, the space seen between two inner negative surfaces of one tori, is most likely filled by other tori's surface events or the reality inside each toroidal tube.
.."what we have is, interfering and non-interfering pattterns operating in pure principle"...B Fuller
.." what exists is moderations or modification of angle and frequency"....B Fuller
/\/\/\/\/\/\/*\/* hi, I'm the monkey wrench cause of fluctuationin the quantum wave and my name is Tom/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\*/\*/ I'm Tulip, Toms sister
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@Mopac
@3RU7AL
(IFF) all events are CAUSED (THEN) determinism makes your decisions (not "you")(IFF) SOME events are CAUSED and some are UNCAUSED (THEN) UNCAUSED (indistinguishable from random) makes your decisions for you (not "you")There is no escape.
Ha, well stated 3ru7al. Excellent dude! Your on a roll with;
1} it is deterministic ergo no free will, --i think it is all this one and we just cant find the order cause the complexity stems from ultra-micro Gravity-Dark Energy and those relationships are far beyond any super-duper quantum computer ever to be built----,
2} its all randome and no free will,
3} or some combination of the two.
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D-man..."You literally are the person that started it."....
More rational, logical, common sense from 'Spock", uhh, I mean 'Scrooge', or, is that 'Grumpy' the short dwarf?
Must be 'Scrooge' since they still have me blocked some year later. Go figure.
Maybe if they get the CoV2 vaccine they will feel safe{?} to interact with me, again, on the internet
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@Theweakeredge
I could list them out, but I think this source does it much better than I could explain it currently: (GEH)
I think that web site may have left out over-population of Earth.
Capitalism treats Earth as if humans they are superior to the ecological environment that sustains them with i.e. progress forward with no holes barred from expanding upon.
Incentive = spirit-of-motivation to initiate creative ideas and act upon them, and that that requires a change of spiritual initiative ergo cultural pathways forward.
A financial benifit is not unreasneble but to the point of rich vs poor vs middle class we see, makes for abuse of the planet, even as the rich make attempts to mitigate the abuses of humanity on ecological systems.
Would a slower or faster growth rate of technology --progress-- be better or worst for humanity? At this point there can only be a hope their is some discovery or technology that will spare humanity from their self-extinction on Earth.
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@MisterChris
Ha, beat you all to it.
Happy Holy-days!
Some Indian peoples may say, Holy Cow!
Some peoples may say, Holy sh@$&!
Holy comprehension of the synergetic whole, that, we rejoice in the experience, and subsequent ponderings, thereof.
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@Mopac
Rather, it reduces mankind to cattle.
Cattle have less/fewer options as resultant of their lack of access to Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts, that, are inherent in the more complex human.
More complex does not = free will. More complex means the resultants of cause and effect are more varied and subsequently more complex and will tgenearlly take more time and effort to grasp/comprehend/understand;
1} numerically complex, --ergo lines-of-relationship--, and,
2} synergetically complex ---synergy is often time and unpredicted resultant, but sometimes is predictable---.
Hesignbergs pricinple only states that two specific kind sphenomena cannot be known at the same time ergo we can know location or speed at two differrent times, just not simultaneously, at the quantum scales of existence.
So reality is logical, but can we ascertain { apprehend } the logic for the above, and other physical/reality paradoxes?
Mamy seem to have answer to this paradox or another and often those answers may differ from anothers.
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