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I think about something ---occupied space experience--- with and occupied space something --aka the brain-nervous system--- ergo, I exist as a complex animal, that, has access to complex relationships between my thoughts/concepts, that, appear to me as a mindful pattern of related concepts, that, I then create pattern of sounds, that, we label as language, to communicate those complex thoughts/concepts to self, therefor in review of, and to others, in hopes of feedback.

* * = animal

* i * = more complex animal

* i * = most complex generalized set as woman, that, more often has more bilateral action between the bilateral hemi-spheres of the brain

Women are attractor { --->Inward<--- }} men are pushers { <---outward---> }.

Push-Pull phenomena are basic fundamentals of the only perpetual motion machine, that, we label as Universe.

Humans conceptualize themselves outside of finite conceptual Universe, as if they are a God, looking back in on the finite conceptual Universe, that, that they hold in their finite, conceptual hands.

Humans conceptually organize their experiences in hierarchical outlines of pattern.

At the top, we find the Cosmic Trinary Outline only has three primary categories and all other existence is a subset of those three. This appears to me to be one set of finite truths, with larger set of finite truths, that, humans can winnow out from their experiences of a finite, occupied space Universe.

There exists only three primary directions. In, out and around

All aspects of bilateral-ism has a third correlated aspect, or resultant of bilateral. Two eyes triangulate as point at some distance ergo depth perception viewpoint *v*

Push-pull results in precession ---most often at 90 degrees-- and other resultants.

Brain = complex consciousness { awareness, other-ness, twoness at minimum }

Mind = most complex resultant of brain { Cosmic Trinary Outline }

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@Greyparrot

Those who want to abuse the soul, tend to follow Trumpet, wherever he may go.........sung to tune 'I will Follow Him, Wherever He May Go'............

See LINK to Peggy march

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'Well, where do these cannonballs lead too'....sung to David Byrne Talking Heads song.

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https://www.thespruce.com/what-is-grounding-1152859

......"essentially, electricity seeks to return its electrons to "ground"—that is, to discharge its negative energy and return to equilibrium. Normally, the current returns to ground through the neutral wires in the electrical system. But should some breakdown of the pathway occur, the hot current may instead flow through other materials, such as wood framing, metal pipes, or flammable materials in your home."

So push-pull phenomena comes into play with the above. There is now evidence that electrical path leaves Earth to meet the electric current in atmosphere.

Alll of the above has properties of charge. Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts have no properties of charge.

Memory recall is the brain attempting to re-image what came into its nervous system via visual, tactile or auditory pathways of experience.

The concept of triangle exists and recalled via humans memory of the experience of seeing, feeling hearing a triangular set of relationships.

The further away in time of the initial experince the more distorted our memories are of the specifics of any triangle.

What does remain, is the pattern of angles /\ or Y or /\/ A single angle my be image-ine as a incoming trajectory and outgoing trajectory.

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@oromagi

Gingsberg would be 10 times better cell mate than Trumpet, unless your into any of the following.

So the mobster Trumpet is the self built cannon with superficial layer of gold colored paint.

He and others have been creating rhetoric of false narrative black powder and heating a multi-layered cannonball of lies, deceit, dis-information, misinformation, false narrative conspiracy and racist bigotry for four years and then, falsely labels it all as patriotism.

At Washington D.C. he writes onto one one side of cannon, in small letters, and with cheap white crayons, 'March Peacefully'.

On other side of cannon he writes in bold black letters, 'We Love You' and 'Your Special'.

On the bottom of the cannon, he writes with invisible ink 'Insurrection'.

On the top of the cannon he has also carved the words, 'I'm the Greatest President Ever'

Then he loads the cannon with the boiling red hot cannon ball and fires it towards the capital of USA.

As the cannonball is flying in air, its many multi-layered pieces explode into a thousand pieces of shrapnel.

Pieces of the shrapnel hit capital police, --killing some--, breaking glass, penetrates doors and the gush of hot wind carry's computers and documents out of the openings of the capital building.

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....is the mind grounded in physical realty, or is it part of something higher (like the supernatural), on your view?

No, it is not "grounded". Grounding is the return path to Earth fro AC electric lines.

In DC is the negative post that acts as grounding to complete the circuit.

Nervous system { brain } is a complex consciousness pathway to access to discovery of Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts.

Woman { Xx } being the most complex consciousness ---in general-- of Universe that we know to exist.

Here is another way to get our heads around Metaphyiscal-1, mind/intellect/concepts not a "grounding" phenomena.

Extend your occupied space arm out in front of you. Move the arm back and forth and while doing so, raise and lower your hand. We will have created a geometrical wave pattern. Now stop moving your arm ergo you hand.

1} the occupied space arm and hand still exists out in front of us,

2} the Metaphysical-1 mind/intlellect/conceptual sine-wave pattern is no longer existent out in front of us, yet we still know via recall { memory } what a geometrical, sine-wave pattern is.

So some will counter and say the geometrical sine-wave pattern is a physical, occupied space reality. Even tho once our arm the sine-wave did exist out in front of us were the hand was before and now still exists.

Think of a sine-wave pattern of 10 dots that make to half of one hump and peak of the sine-wave, and another 10 dots on paper. Next image-ine the dots are now one ant in 20 differrent galaxies that in approximately the same plane. So we have to have our viewpoint zoomed way way outward to winnow out this sine-wave pattern, even tho some would say, that were grasping at straws to still call such a large viewpoint a valid sine-wave pattern.

/\/\/\/\/\/ = Euclidean { straight line } is the same topology of a curved sine-wave. Or lets us try the following minimal set to define assess { winnow-out } a sine-wave pattern

".................*.........*..........*............*........*..........

......................*...........*..........*..........*........."

Next fill in the via * your memory as mind in the following set

".....................................................................................................

...................................................................................................."

Now do the same with follow set of no dots of any kind.

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So says the propaganda expert, not the poetry expert.

So c'mon on all you big strong men, proud boys need a helping hand,

Way down yonder in Trumpet land.

And its one two three, what they fighting for, dont ask me they dont give a damm,

And its five, six seven eight, open those capital gates, you'all are going to die.

......sung to Country Joe McDnalds Vietnam song......

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Says the propaganda expert, not the poetry expert.

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Says the propaganda expert, not the poetry expert.

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Trumpet cannons, fire the exploding Grayparrot propaganda cannonballs!!

And its one two three what are they fighting for, dont ask me they dont give a damn,

The next stop is Trumpet land,

And its five six seven, eight, open those capital gates, you'all are going to die.

sung to Country Joe McDnalds Vietnam song.

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Then you wouldn't know the difference, would you? It's all the same to you.

Says the expert on propaganda, not on poetry.

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Says the expert of presenting propaganda, not the expert of poetry.

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Oh I agree that your good at a false narrative propaganda presentation.

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I dont think 'love and peace' { poet of peace }, that followed Allen Ginsbergs, ---less than political revolutionary pathways---, has anything to do with the multilayered exploding cannonball fired at the capital of USA by immoral terroists who like to label themselves as patriots.

What a cruel /farce of a joke these non-patriots present to USA peoples

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I dont recall much poetry being recited at in D.C. that day. Or much afterwords.

This is a first perhaps. 'Well, where does this cannonball lead too'... sung to David Byrne, Talking Heads song.

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......characteristics of spirituality, such as how close they felt to a higher power and if they felt their lives were part of a divine plan. He found that the participants with more ...... increased feeling of closeness to a higher power.

It is not clarified why you presented this text to me ergo I have to speculate why.

Perhaps you believe my use of the word 'spirit-1' is directly related to your words "spirituality" "higher Power" and "divine plane".

I think such a belief is a lack of misunderstanding on your part, even tho their is some distant relationships

Metaphysical-1{ spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts

--------------conceptual line-of-demarcation------------------

Metaphysical-2 macro-infinite non-occupied Space,

Physical { spirit-2 } fermions, bosons, hybrid set and collection thereof,

Metaphysical-3 { spirit-3 } Gravity ( )

Metaphysical-4 { spirit-4 } Dark Energy )(

There is no "higher power", "divine plan" spirituality" as related to any of my presented set of five Metaphysicals spirit definitions or the physical spirit-2.

Unless your attempting to associate Cosmically Absolute laws/principles with your presentation. Or synergetic principles or something else along those lines. I dunno without more clarity from you.

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Should we defund the police?

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Many 911 calls are family disputes that need people trained assessing a chaotic situation and lowering the emotional tension, not a person trained with a gun or tazer.

Some communities have these and with good success. Communication is key to so many disputes and one of the aspect of the training can be as simple as one the team getting a nearby dog to stop barking, so all can have have less chaotic distractions barking away at their ears ergo the nervous system.

We need to defund the racist, bigoted, mis-information, dis-information, immoral culture of stupidity, and then, fund the culture of moral and intellectual integrity

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@zedvictor4

Nonetheless......As far as we are able to know the processes and the result are real....And therefore existent.

Three primary catagories of "existence". Can you repeat them? Can you understand and/or comprehend them?

A brain [ nervous system } is an occupied space, and concept is not and occupied space.

A brain has mass, a concepts have no mass.

A brain has color and concept has no color.

A brain has a temperature, a concept has no temperature.

A brain has properties mentioned above and more, where as concepts have none of those properties I've mentioned or others I did not present.

Those who attempt to deny truth of Metaphysical-1, { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts existence, need to begin by checking in with a few differrent dictionarys definitions of mind, intellect, concepts and Metaphysical

The truth --- Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept--- exists for what they are , and that is not and occupied nor are they the truly non-occupied space.

True non-occupied space is what the finite, occupied space Unvierse may expand outward into, or contractively recede inward away from.

Occupied space Universe does not expand into Metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concepts nor does in contract inward away from Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts.

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So the mobster Trumpet is the self built cannon with superficial layer of gold colored paint.

He and others have been creating rhetoric of false narrative black powder and heating a multi-layered cannonball of lies, deceit, dis-information, misinformation, false narrative conspiracy and racist bigotry for four years and falsely labels it patriotism.

At Washington D.C. he writes onto one one side cannon, in small letters, and with cheap white crayons, 'March Peacefully'.

On other side of cannon he writes in bold black letters, 'We Love You' and 'Your Special'.

On the bottom of the cannon, he writes with invisible ink 'Insurrection'.

On the top of the cannon he has also carved the words, 'I'm the Greatest President Ever'

Then he loads the cannon with the boiling red hot cannon ball and fires it towards the capital of USA.

As the cannonball is flying in air, its many multi-layered pieces explode into a thousand pieces of shrapnel.

Pieces of the shrapnel hit capital police, --killing some--, breaking glass, penetrates doors and the gush of hot wind carry's computers and documents out of the openings of the capital building.

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You haven't laid out three categories of existence,

False and this is your ego speaking. Sad :--(

or explained what that even means. I don't accept your cosmic trinary outline because you haven't demonstrated it to have any substance.

Dude you need to us a dictionary and understand what the word "substance" means. A "substance" is an occupied Space, concepts are not. Your confused and that is partly because of your ego blockage to rational, logical common sense truths.

You're arguing that concepts exist without a person to build them, but that's simply wrong.

No, your wrong. Truths exists eternally irrespective of humans existence. Your confused and that is partly because of your ego blockages.

Notions and ideas necessarily have to be invented by a thinking thing.

False. Words are invented to convey what Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, occupied Space and truly non-occuipied Space are.

Your still confuse and that is partly because of your ego blockages to truth.

Animals like us, with brains and language. Ideas do not exist out there to be discovered.

Yes concepts of mind intellect do exist eteranally and humans discovery them, not invent them. Place your ego to the side and approach truth.

You aren't going to find the Marine Corps "models of competition" (MCDP 1-4), or Einstein's equations behind a rock somewhere. They have to be invented.

I never said "behind a rock some where". So you create a false narrative becuase your ego cannot handle the truth as I presented and not as you false narrative presents it as tho I stated it. Place the ego to the side and approach truth.

Laws of nature are properties of matter that we observe consistently and codify into language. Matter interacts, but these interactions are not a "concept" until they have been abstracted and codified.

I never said that "interactions" are a concept. More false narrative on your part because of your ego. This is some common for what people with ego blockages to truth do. Please repeat the three cosmically primary catagories when your ready to place you ego to the side and approach truth.

It is not going to happen with you --as is case with most--- because it is harder for the human to place the ego aside, than it is for a human to go through the eye of needle.

Ego is the greatest danger facing humanity and in the end, it is a collective set of human ego's that will lead to the resultant, end-date-for-humanity on Earth. I think my last prognostication approximate end-date is the in and around the year 2232. See LINK

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Can you demonstrate how a concept can exist without an animal with a brain and language to construct and codify them?

To be clear, you are not able to repeat back to me, the three, and only three, primary Cosmic existence categories, that, eternally exist.

Here is a couple of ways to "demonstrate" that they exist independent of our ability to access the Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } existence.

1} did we humans invent them? No? yet they existence as what they are, Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts i.e. before humans existed, did they exist? Yes. So humans discovered what already exists eternally,

2} consider eternally existent truths, aka cosmically absolute principles/laws ex they has eternally existed, only five regular/symmetrical and convex, ---platonic mean Plato discovered them--- polyhedra. Humans did not create or invent this truths. They were truths eternally long before humans on Earth existed.

So can now repeat back to me 1, 2 and three Cosmically primary catagories? No? I didnt think so. The problem is ego. When you can place you ego to the side and use some rational, logical common sense, you find those three in message #30. Use your mind accessing abilities to winnow them out from the text presented to you.

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Are you implying that concepts exist independently of a rational being and that thinking person's simply access them?

Yes, but understand that concepts are not occupied Space nor are they a non-occupied Space.

Concepts of Space or not a Space, occupied or not. So there are three very distinct catagories in the Cosmic Trinary Outline.

Are you able to understand, comprehend and repeat to me, those three primary catagories of existence?

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Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts are what the brain may access to various degrees of existence ex complex human brain [ nervous system } has more degrees of access to mind than does brain { nervous system }flatworm.

Brain { nervous system } = awareness ergo * *

Mind = intellectually conceptual pattern accessing of relationship ergo i

.................................Space( * ) i ( * )Space......................................

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Ok, so if you've read post #35, I next want to compare the final pattern, with my former more Euclidean version of a single graviton, that, was as follows;

A truncated di-pyramid with a central-spinal-axis defined by an oscillatory, central vertex running diametrically inside all three of the larger triangles, back and forth and acts to subdivide each larger triangle with three sub-triangles inside.

This means there is a total of 10 vertexes;

...note, that alternative scenario is there is 11 or 12 vertexial points i.e. 2 or three such points acting as the central-spinal-axis.....

1} nine perimeter vertexes, and,

2} one central vertex that osscillates between the two diametric larger triangles at each end of the truncated di-pyramid.

So how would I take the inside-outed toroidal model and have its vertexial events be likened to the Euclidean model?

Well, we need at least 10 vertexial events. So if we start with Y 12 < 0 on top peak of sine-wave, we go to '9' Y 10, on the inner peak of curvature, that, leaves us short of one complete revolution of a torus ---that has 12 vertexial events--- by two vertexial events.

So for the moment, lets us assume we need all 12 vertexial events of a torus and that would be 3 vertexes definning the central-spinal-axis on the Euclidean version of truncated di-pyramid.

Ok, so here is the catch to making both versions/models conicide as if they were the same model;

One of the four line levels has to act as outer perimeter of the truncated dipyramid, Euclidean model.

Or, perhaps we can say it is the two inside lines/levels taking turns acting as the outside perimeter of the Euclidean model.

Too visualize this idea, lets consider the below pattern and think of '12 Y 1, '1' Y 2, and '2' Y 3, as the outer perimeter and '5' Y 6 as the central vertex for those three. Ive placed some arrows <<<<<<<<< to better visualize this postional change, that may osscilate, or as I go along we may see or say that whatever the two inside vertexes may knock one of the others out to the perimeter as the may oscillate on their central-spinal-axis.

>.................'10' Y 11 .............................'12' Y 1 ...........................................................'4' Y 5..........................'6' Y 7.......................................outer.>

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>.......................................Y 12<0...................................<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<'5' Y 6.............................................................top....>

>.............Y '11'<'0'>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...................'2'Y 3...................................................................................................'8' Y 9...bottom..>

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>.'9' Y 10 ............................................................'1' Y 2............................'3' Y 4.............................................................'7' Y 8.........................inner..>

So whereas '5' Y 6 is inside, maybe Y '11' , 0 >>>>>>>>may come along>>>>>>> an knock i'5' Y 6 out to become perimeter or vice versa. H,mm this going to require some intense consideration of the mind to get a scenario that makes some kind of visual sense.

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Redoing this so it is easier to follow the closed torus pattern via 12 nodal points ---symbolized as V, tho not shown as V below---. So below the 12th nodal point begins and ends with the zero on the inside top peak of sine-wave inside the tube and seen as {12}<0. So {12} is zero.

>......11...................................1............................................................5..............................7........................................outer..>

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>........................12<0.........................................................................................6............................................................top..>

>.......................................................................3.............................................................................................9..........bottom.>

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>10...................................................2...................................4............................................................8.........................inner.....>

I also want to get some terminologies clarified.

First, a looped cycle { frequency } and that is beginning with outer peak of curvature or inner peak of curvature, and we come back to the outer or inner ergo from #1 - #5 is one loop { frequency } then #5 - #11 is 2nd loop { frequency } ergo the above pattern is a 2-frequency looped cycle,

2nd is torus cycle { revolution around whole torus }, is the going around the whole torus once ergo the above is one torus that is initiated at non-counting zero and ends at #12 which is also non-counting zero. This paradox will be considered more in future explorations.

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Next we introduce and 2nd initiating nodal event on bottom peak of sine-wave, inside the tube and identify it as '0' and again, the end resultant I'm trying to achieve here, is for each nodal event V, to be considered as vertexial event Y. This happens because each nodal event is two lines intersecting V, and with 2nd trajectory we have three or more lines intersecting approximation, as vertexial event Y.

>.................'10' Y 11 .............................'12' Y 1 ...........................................................'4' Y 5..........................'6' Y 7.......................................outer.>

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>.......................................Y 12<0................................................................................................'5' Y 6.............................................................top....>

>.............Y '11'<'0'...................................................................'2' Y 3...................................................................................................'8' Y 9...bottom..>

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>.'9' Y 10 ............................................................'1' Y 2............................'3' Y 4.............................................................'7' Y 8.........................inner..>

Ok, that looks much clearer to me and a total of 12 vertexial events Y on with each trajectory.

Finally, there is the issue of what is a trajectory of what exactly? I'm going to go out on a limb here and infer/suggest, that, 1 - 5 along with '2' - '12' is a wholistically integral set, that, cannot ever be isolated out into seperate events i.e. 1 - 5 is one graviton-darkion, or possibly even we can say, that, 1 - 12 and '2' - '12' are one wholistically integral set as one graviton-darkion.

With this idea we are proposing two seperate concepts;

1} that graviton and darkion are intricately/inimatly intertwined as one whole particle that has two aspects, and,

2} that, this above concepts draws the finite limit of eternal subdivision of a finite whole as Bucky Fuller suggests, as to may be what the finite Universe does, is to eternally subdivide , itself into smaller and smaller sub-unit wholes. I never liked that idea, my above is to put a finite limite on t to what we can say a line, point, nodal events and vertexial events are.

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So explain the significance of particle shape?

I don know if there is a "significance". It is what is, I'm just and explorer looking to discover the the truth and Fuller states that energy has shape.

I think Graviton and Darkion are not energy ---as i have defined it--- but do believe there is an associated, Euclidean, primary/basic shape/geomery/pattern and a dynamic shape/geometry /pattern for those two, just as believe there is for all particles of Universe and for occupied space Universe.

My prime number explortions ---firs the sine-wave pattern--- then later on the sine-wave pattern 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc, inside a tube--- just happen to be a specific kind of toroidal inversting-outverting concept for particles.

Keep i mind that, the fertilised egg of all chordata develops three germ layers ---Cosmic Trinary Outline--- before it inverts to create the spinal chord ergo the spinal tube and the spinal chord is the axis for all chordata.

LINK

....."A chordate (/ˈkɔːrdeɪt/) is an animal of the phylum Chordata (/kɔːrˈdeɪtə/). During some period of their life cycle, chordates possess a notochord, a dorsal nerve cord, pharyngeal slits, and a post-anal tail: these four anatomical features define this phylum."....

My specific space and time tori have two invertings;

1{ one from peak of positive curvature, and,

2} on from peak of negative curvature.

LINK to Institute for Study of Consciousness is based on Arthur Youngs four level/line and 7 Primary Stages

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So tell me very simply, how you think that your hypothesis actually interplays with the visible universe.

Ive stated this in several differrent threads the Dart and the old Dart. I believe all particles of Universe ---except Graviton and Darkion--- are composed of two or more tori.

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SO EBUC......IN LAYMENS TERMS PLEASE.

Zed, I'm a layman explorer and everything Ive stated is prsenseted as such. When you or others have a specific comment by me, that, you need more clarity on, please provide the specific comment by me in question.

In the 90's I was presented with an algebraic equation 6 * n plus or minus one, that matched the conjecture I deduced is a semi-patten of prime number found on two radii of a hexagon.

10 years later, via inside outing,of the four lines/level, I was led to consider a a torus with two inversions from two peaks of curvature, that, defined a 0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/ top peaks and bottom peaks.

I had already define my Euclidean quantum Gravition a as truncated di-pyramid as a tube with a central osscillating spinal axis, and could see that combination of vertexes as a tube, and from there it was a simple to imagine that as a torus.

But now I had a more specific kind of inverting-outverting torus as resultant of my prime number explorations and the inside-outing of those original, four level/lines and the beginnings of quantum Darkion, that overtime became as unitary part of the Graviton i.e. two sides of the same torus i..e positive and negative curvature intimate to and with each other

This all helped me to concurrently develop my Cosmic Trinary Outline and again, whereas Arthur Young ---LINK to Institute of Consciousness--- went off a Cosmic Seven tact, I saw three's as more Universal { Cosmic }.

So from the beginning of all of the above, I was arleady well versed in bucky Fullers great circle development and it was easy to just assign the the 2D great circles patterns in Synergetics to my 3D tori and my great circle Standard Model I had developed in early 2000's. See Fullers LINK to primary set of 87 great circle that Ive posted many times in this forum in differrent threads.

In my last post Ive begun to consider ways to arrive at having vertexial crossings ---i.e. 3 lines of relationship--- and each nodal event in a single inverting-outverting torus, tho, that may not be necessary, if two tori ---see my VE muon 3 great tori ideas--- can interfere enough to have vertexes Y at each nodal event V point-of-view.

Last night I relooked at some images of tori already out there ---see LINK-- and of the three primary types of torus, ring, horn spindle, two spindle, at 60-120 degree orientation, shargin a common center of abstract gravity, would have the greatest potential for most interference as creation of vertexes Y 3 points-of-view and not just single V nodal point-o -f-view.

However, I still see or believe, that that the spindle torus would fall short ergo my latest ttempt to get vertexes Y by having a 2nd, initiating zero, 1, 2, 3 etc trajectory. within a single torus, and elimintate ideas of 2Dvectors interfering with itself to created 3D vectors. Thanks for you consideration

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Oops in relooking at the idea I see I made an error and what I thought would be a correct modification to create Y vertexes, is not a simple as I had thought. By having 2nd initiating 0 on bottom { inner curvature } peak, #1 on outer { top } peak is skipped over. So what we have is the original top zero chasing ---wait not not chasing but co-occurring so as to create the Y vertex crossing-- the 2nd zero sequential pattern and I'm not convinced this would create Y vertexes at each nodal V point of view.

to co-occur, the 2nd initiating zero would have to starting time stamp that is a little later than the original zero time stamp, so as the both meet at the approximately the same time at bottom { inner } peak #2, so Ive off-set the two initiatin zeros' to reflect their initiating time stamp.

......{11}.................Y{13}1.........................................................4Y5.........................6Y7....................................................

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{9Y10}...............................1Y2...........................3Y4.....................................................7Y 8...................................

Also Ive placed the initiating #10 at beginning of bottom { inner } peak, to show the return trip closure of torus. All of this above, leaves original top [ outer } #1 as V nodal event and not a vertex, as well as both initiating zeros as being V nodal events and not vertexes. I would also have liked the closure be as the #zeroes, so.....oh wait, I see now we need to add to more events in our total to get back the original zero and that is #12 in bold.

So {12} --twelth event-- brings us back to original Zero event in bold and a 13th event creates Y vertex with the original #1 in bold

H,mmm this will take some intense consideration, tho mind you myself and others, we still have no less than a 2nd great tori, sharing a common center abstract gravity center, and is at some angular orientation to each other as they are also interfereing with each other. Without graphic modeling this is all hard to image-ine.

Since it is the two great circles of the unstable VE I'm considering ---in conjunction with very unstable muons { strong nuclear force }--- the angle maybe considered as approximating 60 degrees from one side 120 degrees from the other side.

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Ha, as I laid in bed thinking about how to get vertexes { Y } --trinary-- with one torus instead of just single V points-of-view. For those who actually give signifant consideration to my inside-outed four lines/level approach, what I thought of last night, was to have two sets of 2D trajectories. That approach begins zero on top peak as well as a bottom peak, with each going same direction of spiralling forward, with one trajectory going to outer peak { Gravity first } and the other going to inner peak Dark Energy first

............1Y1...........................................................5Y5..........................7Y7....................................................

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0......................................................................................6Y6........................................................................

0.........................................3Y3.....................................................................................9Y9..........................

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............................2Y2...........................4Y4.....................................................8.Y 8.........................................

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Also, i'm limiting the number of Y's to keep as simple a torus as possible, but meets criteria for my Euclidean set of 10 vertexes. So the above would have half of the torus occurring so #5 is halfway postion i.e. 5 vertexes Y { forward trip } on one side of the torus and 5 Y's on the other side { return trip }. This is a first for me, so development is ongoing.

And again, 10 vertexes goes back to three subdivided triangles in a linear row that;

1} is minimal set ---ergo minimal as Gravition and/or Darkion--- define a 3D tube,

2} has vertex central to all three triangles that allows for oscillatory process of a tetrahedron that is inside-outing and outside-out

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I see ---2D text--

I understand --3D seeing from various viewpoints---

I comprehend ---4D includes spin, orbit, precession, expand-contract, inside-outing, torque-----

I believe --- in the magic of the perpetual motion machine, we label as Universe aka Uni-V-erse----

.........................................................Soace(>*<) i (>*<)Space.........................................................

.........................................................Space(>T<) i (>T<)Space........................................................

..........................................................Space( V ) i ( V )Space............................................................

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Okay, so sometimes things come in sets of 3. What are you trying to prove?

I never stated i was trying to prove anything and it is not just "some things come in threes" i.e. you missed the whole point of word "cosmic" ergo fundmentally primary to Universe, from the get go.

Cosmic Trinary Outline aka " U "niverse/" G "od

1} Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/conceptual that, exist in complementation to the following #2 #3,

------------conceptual line-of-demarcation------------------------------------

2} eternally existent, Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied Space, that, embraces/surrounds the following #3,

3} eternally existent, finite, occupied Space Universe, that, has Cosmic Trinary set and many special-case trinary subsets.

.........3a} Obsereved { quantised } Time as pysical reality is compose of fermions, bosons and a third newly discovered hybrid fermion. All of these have been quantised and are asssociated with a sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/\/\/,

..........3b} Metaphysical-3, contractive Gravity ( ) ---outer positive geodesic surface curvature of cosmically existent tori---,

..........3c} Metaphysical-4, repulsive Dark Energy )( --inner negative geodesic surface curvature of cosmically existent tori---.

Enjoy the ride, or not. A binary cause and effect also ha a third aspect we label as resultant ergo another Cosmic Trinary.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Past >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arrow-of-Time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

..............................................................Space( * ) i ( * )Space..................................................................

<<<<< Resultant{s} { Past } <<<<<<<<< Effect { now } <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cause { Future } <<<<<<<<

She loves mes, she loves me not. She loves me and now we have a third { progeny } to love, or, not to love.

Xx - Xy Trinary plus one

Bilateral hemispheres and third corpus callosum

Bilateral nerves and third spinal chord

Bilateral testes and external extension { Xy }

Bilateral ovaries and internalized entrance { Xx }

Blacks holes have three aspects inner, evnt horizon and singularity, or at least that is what I read and posted on message #10, however, I dont agree with the idea of a singularity.

RNA{ 3 } - DNA{3}

Red - blue -green are three primary colors of Universe except where artist replace green with yellow as their primary color.

trinary { threeness/triangularion/tripartie/triangular } = structural and systemic integrity in 3D no less than the 4 triangles of the minimal polyhedral structure and system of Universe the tetra{4}hedron.

With my scenario of cosmic tori we find the inside sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/\/ on the inside of each torus,

0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 etc is the numerical sine-wave pattern I discovered inside my tori. All fermionic matter reality is based upon threeness and ultimately we find 18 kinds of flavored quark and 18 kinds of flavored anti-quark. This physical reality is a resulant of inversions from peak of positive curvature as Gravity ( ), and inversion of peak of negative curvature as Dark Energy )(.

...........................................................Space( * ) i ( * )Space.........................................................................

( )( ) = equaltorial bisecetion of a torus from horizontal orientation i.e. like a doughnut on coffee counter i.e. looking at it from the side viewpoint.

* * = bilateral consciousness

i = ego as Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept

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Okay, so "consisting of three parts". What do you mean by cosmic?

Having to do with the cosmos on the most vast scales of Existence. You must be a youngin who never heard of of Carl Sagan nd the tv doc he did called Cosmos. It was epic at the time it came out.

From most ultra-macro-scales of existence to the most ultra-micro scales of existence.

No one has as ever offerred any rational, logical common sense that would invalidate any of my Cosmic Trinary/Trinity Outline.

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So, a trinary is the number 3? Is your argument that there can be 3 of something?

Seriously our kidding right? The number 3 ,in of itself is meaningly dribble unless it is associated with occupied space phenomena or Metaphysiscal-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo three of occupied space somethings or three Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts.

3 relationships ---lines, vectors, etc--- is trinay set ergo a trinity

Here is LINK I goggle trinary for you.

Her is another LINK for synonyms of trinary

I think this is sort of silly of you to ask what does trinary mea. Anything having to do with threeness dude. This is not rocket science.

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Define "trinary"

Your kidding right? Having to do with threeness. Start at beginning of Cosmic Trinary Outline again, to see first threeness.

Blacks holse have three aspects inner, evnt horizon and singularity, or at least that is what I read and posted on message #10, however, I dont agree with the idea of a singularity.

RNA - DNA

Red - blue -green are three primary colors, except artist replace green with yellow as their primary color.

trinary { threeness } = structural and systemic integrity

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What im saying is you could choose any third thing to make the example, but it would still seem arbitrary. I could say "two eyes and a brain to process it." That doesn't mean those are the only three things about that system, so it isn't clear what you're trying to demonstrate with these examples.

2 testes and the extenstion are three primary parts of the male anatomy and in very close proximity as far as relationship to each other. Same goes for woman. That you cant see that or understand that trinary set is not my concern. They are both obvious truths facts that do not require rocket science mathematics to grasp.es

As for bilateral set of eyes, now you've hit on something less obvious, however, what is obvious is that in case of eyes, and ears, they a part of a triagular system of getting fix on something. i.e. one eye will will not allow a person a depth { Z } view point but does allow for hieght { X } and width { Y }.

Triangulation is to get a fix on something i.e. to find the location in 2D or 3D. GPS uses triangulation and long before that miltary used three differrent sources --ex radi towers to get a fix on a somethings location---.

But that two eyes plus perspective., howver that is physical, because it is the photons entering the eyes --two eyes-- that accounts for andy 3D perception. Is there a third trinary aspect o two eyes that is physical body? I dunno. Ive not researched into to it.

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Why choose the entrance to the "place" as the thirdling for your example? It seems arbitrary.

2 testes and the extenstion { Xy } aka male where male organ for orgasmism resides

2 ovaries and the entrance { Xx } aka woman where female organ for ograsm resides

Why do you want to exclude facts, truths relating to that of a womans anatomy?

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There are four types of black holes: stellar, intermediate, supermassive, and miniature. The most commonly known way a black hole forms is by stellar death. Ergo that is trinary plus one. Trinary is ihherently included in four.

....."Black holes have three "layers": the outer and inner event horizon, and the singularity."... See LINK

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