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@zedvictor4
What is time and how does one define existence?
1] Metaphyiscal-1 time ex cosmically absolute Pi-Time 66.4 and, or local labeling of time of minutes, vs hours vs days
2} Observed Time or as labeled in the utube presented by 3ru, Brian Greenes 'experience of time' at 1:37 aka flow-of-time
Arrow-of-Time >>>>Past >>>>> In >>>>>> ( * ) i ( * ) >>>> Out >>>>>> Future
Flow-of-Time <<<< Past <<<< Out <<<< ( * ) i ( * ) <<< In <<<< Future
Both exist. One is occupied space events { Observed Time { experienced } and the other is conceptual { Metaphyscial-1 { spirit-1 }.
Time is the possibility, that allows events to have duration....As such it does not exist.
Time exists via modulation of Metaphysical-1 angle of viewpointe and occupied space frequency of viewpoints { minimally four }
Nonetheless our awareness of time is real enough, therefore time is an existent factor in our thinking.
Thinking requires both kinds of time ergo a process of durations ergo modulation of angle and frequency of viewpoints ( * ) i ( * ) aka,
.........................( /*\*/\*/\*/ ) i ( /*\*/*\*/\*/ )....................................
Observed Time is always contained/embraced withing contractive Gravity ( ) and repulsive Dark Energy )(.
i ergo Metaphysical-1 time is always Meta/beyond the container of time and not as Metaphysical-2 non-occupied space.
All occupied space and time are related, just not all of it is Observed { quantised and quantified } by us ex 180 diametric opposites of Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(.
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Generally speaking, the right-wing { conservatives? } walk more in fear of;
1} loss of money { riches } above and beyond that of normal survival with an average savings account,
2} people of color and this is often leads to inability of ways to express their fears that are not violent or racist,
3} systemic way of life i.e. a change and transformations of culture and the known order ergo a fear of unknown,
4} government even tho government may assign them some degree of individual rights.
Generally speaking, left-wing walks more in fear of;
1} the violent { crazy } right-wing,
2} violent { crazy } left-wing,
3} violent [ crazy } independents.
Loss of structural integrity is equally feared by both sets of viewpoints.
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@RationalMadman
Pimps can be left wing. More left-wingers support legalised prostitution than right-wingers.
Good Point RMan. Legal vs inllegal { black market } prostitution makes a differrence for sure also.
Men and women both want to have sex, and it should be allowed legally and safely for both sexes but primarily will help men to release [ fulfill ) that genetic drive of tension. And ldirectly lessen and reverse he population increase that humanity seriously does not need with the current systems humanity has to ' progress' sanely within the ecology that sustains uw.
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@RationalMadman
Conservatives are for conserging their personal money for the rich at the expense of the middle class and poor, and this story dates back to the pimps operating the oldest profession known to humans.
If humanity every decides to act as unified whole, then a much larger portion of humanities intentions will have to become and all-for-one and one-for-all spirit of human's abilities to access moral integrity.
United we stand and divided we fall just means there is still plenty of nuclear weapons in world to destroy most of humanity.
..."The Doomsday Clock is a symbol that represents the likelihood of a man-made global catastrophe. Maintained since 1947 by the members of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists,[1] the clock is a metaphor for threats to humanity from unchecked scientific and technical advances.
.....The clock represents the hypothetical global catastrophe as midnight and the Bulletin's opinion on how close the world is to a global catastrophe as a number of minutes or seconds to midnight, assessed in January of each year. The main factors influencing the clock are nuclear risk and climate change.[2] The Bulletin's Science and Security Board monitors new developments in the life sciences and technology that could inflict irrevocable harm to humanity.[3]
......The clock's original setting in 1947 was seven minutes to midnight. It has been set backward and forward 24 times since, the largest-ever number of minutes to midnight being 17 in 1991, and the smallest 100 seconds in 2020 and 2021.
....The clock was set at two minutes to midnight in January 2018, and left unchanged in 2019.[4] In January 2020, it was moved forward to 100 seconds before midnight.[5] In January 2021, the clock's setting was left unchanged.".....
My personal formula sets the approximate end-time-for-humanity around 2232. See LINK
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...“These results suggest that MCH neurons help the brain actively forget new, possibly, unimportant information,” said Dr. Kilduff. “Since dreams are thought to primarily occur during REM sleep, the sleep stage when the MCH cells turn on, activation of these cells may prevent the content of a dream from being stored in the hippocampus – consequently, the dream is quickly forgotten.”......
...."REM sleep first occurs about 90 minutes after falling asleep. Your eyes move rapidly from side to side behind closed eyelids. Mixed frequency brain wave activity becomes closer to that seen in wakefulness. Your breathing becomes faster and irregular, and your heart rate and blood pressure increase to near waking levels. Most of your dreaming occurs during REM sleep, although some can also occur in non-REM sleep. Your arm and leg muscles become temporarily paralyzed, which prevents you from acting out your dreams. As you age, you sleep less of your time in REM sleep. Memory consolidation most likely requires both non-REM and REM sleep."....
...."Penile erections during rapid eye movement (REM) sleep are a robust physiologic phenomenon in all normal healthy males, irrespective of age."....
.............................ergo, My favorite dreams irrespective of whether I remmeber them or not. :--))...............
..."Poor sleep quality has been related to sexual difficulties1-9, but casestudies suggest that chronic insomnias sometimes increase sexual desire andarousal10. In fact, thereis accumulating research suggesting that lack of sleep can increase sexual arousalin humans and animals. The present study aimed at better understanding thisintriguing phenomenon in men and women."....
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@zedvictor4
I agree in principle.
Thats good as we only have this Earth to make it on. Mars, Earths moon, Saturn's Europa.
And if you think we 500, 1000, or more years to have time to invent a technology that would give habitat for humanity of any significant length of time, on in of those planets, then you I think your ill-informed of the magnitude such and endeavor would take.
We have workable options on this Earth, but even if we figure a way to preserve our hospitable ecological environment on Earth, we have to all agree on who is going to live here in harmony, because, if it aint all for one, and one for all in spirit, then there is still plenty of nukes to crash this human species on Earth party.
Mutually Assured Destruction { M.A.D. } becomes No Unification Today Sucker { N.U.T.S. }
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@zedvictor4
"One world" is a socialist utopian dream....Nothing more than a dream.....Of which, the manifestation, becomes a controlled nightmare.
USA is united states/nations.
Nation/states have long history, and, being united as one nation/Earth ---under God/Universe--- is only a "nightmare" if humans make it that way.
Why people can only see one option ---out of many--- is a sign of narrow-minded-ness bias.
Humans are already steered themselves toward a "nightmare" of overpopulated --for systems currently in place-- polluted { ionizing radiation { nukes in many forms }, petroleum spills, erratic climate change > global warming > greenhouse effect and very little trust/faith in moral integrity of human hearts to pull in same direction as does a team-of-horses, or sled dogs, or pack-of-wolves, etc.
The true "nightmare" is humans stupidity, driven by human ego and greed, without respect for the ecological environment that sustains us all. Your happy with the way things are, then more power to you.
Want a better Earth for future humanity, then open our minds to many options cause the one were on is headed for Humanities-End-Time-on-Earth See LINK around 2232.
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@zedvictor4
Experience > Intuition > Trust > VE > Sphere > Cylinder > Torus
1} Trust/faith > 1A-intutive gut feelings > 1B-past self experiences > 1C-experiences of others communicated to us ---ergo with our gut intution/feelings of how much we trust/faith in their trust worthiness of what others are communicating to us---
1} Trust/faith > 1A-intutive gut feelings > 1B-past self experiences > 1C-experiences of others communicated to us ---ergo with our gut intution/feelings of how much we trust/faith in their trust worthiness of what others are communicating to us---
Trust/faith does not occur in a vacuum of space and time.It only occurs via those factors above and perhaps other factors Ive not considered. We really have nothing else to go on except those four. Either we expreiecned it, or heard this or that or read this or that in a book, magazine etc, and our our intuitive gut then steers us to have trust/faith in this direction or another directionfr.
We have trust/faith in cosmic { universal } physical laws/principles, that, we believe are true everywhere, every-when.
We have trust/faith that 1 + 1 = two in linear systems, and, in 2D systems , that, 1 + 1 synergetically = 4, and, 3 + 3 = 12.
We have trust/faith that, even if we do not understand math, or synergy, that, our lives are terminal beginning and ending.
Some have faith/trust that there is an afterlife ergo a divine reprieve that invalidates terminal beginnings-endings, that, the allows for eternal life of the individual soul/biologic. The biologic version of Naught is created nor destroyed only transformed.
Some have faith/trust that, the encodings for all occupied space possibliites, is coded in some black holes, --LINK to spherical Vector Equilibrium to surface area of VE equal to surface area of its four equaltorial great hexagonal/circle planes--- if not a combination of black holes, with some having one set of codings and others having other set of codings.
What ever is inside a black hole is expressed on its surface{ event horison }. See Jacob Bekenstien and S Hawkings math.
LINK to area of sphere.... "The first person who answered the question how to find the area of a sphere was ancient Greek - Archimedes. He had discovered that the orthogonal projection from the lateral area of a cylinder onto the sphere keeps its area." A cylinder unfolds to a 2D rectangle. Alternative LINK to the same
A torus also unfold as a rectangle and based on the above we can say that four spheres = four cylinders ergo a torus defined by four spheres = a torus of same outer surface area.
What goes in must come out again. What is inside a black hole must also exist on its surface as a state/phase of equilibrium.
Universe abhors a vacuum, and Universe abhors equilbrium.
So what black holes do, is evaporate away their existence to become our finite, occupied space, Observed Time Universe.
See thisLINK and go to 57:00 to begin the section where Roger Penroses shows evidence of black holes existence prior to our Big Bang phenomena.
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@zedvictor4
Words words words.
Words only have power { significant meaning }, if we allow them to;
...1} steer our Metaphyiscal-2 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts and,
.....2} our soul/biology { heart/gut/intuition }, without proper filtering processes of of 1 and 2, that,
.....3} remove uneccessary anxiety, fear etc and, this may be akin to English stiff upper lift i.e. not letting words break your bones.
Similar thing is said of ego. Their ego has gone to there head and taken over control their soul/heart.
Words are an abstract tool for communication of Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts.
1} Trust/faith > 1A-intutive gut feelings > 1B-past self experiences > 1C-experiences of others communicated to us ---ergo with our gut intution/feelings of how much we trust/faith in their trust worthiness of what others are communicating to us---
Trust/faith does not occur in a vacuum of space and time.It only occurs via those factors above and perhaps other factors Ive not considered. We really have nothing else to go on except those four. Either we expreiecned it, or heard this or that or read this or that in a book, magazine etc, and our our intuitive gut then steers us to have trust/faith in this direction or another directionfr.
We have trust/faith in cosmic { universal } physical laws/principles, that, we believe are true everywhere, every-when.
We have trust/faith that 1 + 1 = two in linear systems, and, in 2D systems , that, 1 + 1 synergetically = 4, and, 3 + 3 = 12.
We have trust/faith that, even if we do not understand math, or synergy, that, our lives are terminal beginning and ending.
Some have faith/trust that there is an afterlife ergo a divine reprieve that invalidates terminal beginnings-endings, that, the allows for eternal life of the individual soul/biologic. The biologic version of Naught is created nor destroyed only transformed.
Some have faith/trust that, the encodings for all occupied space possibliites, is coded in some black holes, --LINK to spherical Vector Equilibrium to surface area of VE equal to surface area of its four equaltorial great hexagonal/circle planes--- if not a combination of black holes, with some having one set of codings and others having other set of codings.
What ever is inside a black hole is expressed on its surface{ event horison }. See Jacob Bekenstien and S Hawkings math.
LINK to area of sphere.... "The first person who answered the question how to find the area of a sphere was ancient Greek - Archimedes. He had discovered that the orthogonal projection from the lateral area of a cylinder onto the sphere keeps its area." A cylinder unfolds to a 2D rectangle. Alternative LINK to the same
A torus also unfold as a rectangle and based on the above we can say that four spheres = four cylinders ergo a torus defined by four spheres = a torus of same outer surface area.
What goes in must come out again. What is inside a black hole must also exist on its surface as a state/phase of equilibrium.
Universe abhors a vacuum, and Universe abhors equilbrium.
So what black holes do, is evaporate away their existence to become our finite, occupied space, Observed Time Universe.
See this LINK and go to 57:00 to begin the section where Roger Penroses shows evidence of black holes existence prior to our Big Bang phenomena.
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@secularmerlin
Tell me more about trust. What is trust in this context? Like trusted to have correct verified facts or to be likely to tell the truth? If you cannot have both which do you go with?
See #514....Faith/trust based on historical experience and averages, is as good if not better than proof you are in a bed with a floor under you.
Proofs become 2ndary to experience of our reality.....
And #505.....I dont believe the car approaching me is going to cross the center line and hit me, so a certain amount of driving involves believe, trust and faith on histroical experiences of self and others.....
1} Trust/faith > 1A-intutive gut feelings > 1B-past self experiences > 1C-experiences of others communicated to us ---ergo with our gut feelings of how much we trust/faith in their trust worthiness of what others are communcating to us---
Trust/faith does not occur in a vacuum of space and time.It only occurs via those factors above and perhaps other factors Ive not considered. We really have nothing else to go on except those four. Either we expreiecned it, or heard this or that or read this or that in a book, magazine etc, and our our intuitive gut then steers us to have trust/faith in this direction or another direction.
Japenese Naval Fleet commandor Yamato had been to USA universities and knew of USA's power so internally he believed going to war was insane. To say no to his divine prime minister would mean he might as well kill himself in shame.
That led him to make 50/50 gamble in sailing 3000 miles of Pacific ocean in hopes of being undetected, before attacking Pearl Harbour.
USA admiral Nimitz had more going for him in before knowing the Japaness fleet were going to attack Midway. He had to first trust his american, eccentric, Japenes speaking cryptographer, and then verify that cryographers beliefs, by sending false message to Midway about water shortages, that, the then heard the Japanese repeat the false message between their the aircraft carrier commander Nagumi and Adimaral Yamamoto.
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@secularmerlin
For the purposes of our normal every day life? Sure.
And that is what most humans have to deal with for 95% of there daily lives.
Sure the technological advances require mathematical accuracy, yet, most have very little care o concern of any of that. We are just given the technology and we come to understand how much we can or cannot trust it or other peoples, nations etc.
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@secularmerlin
Faith/trust based on historical experience and averages, is as good if not better than proof you are in a bed with a floor under you.
Proofs become 2ndary to experience of our reality.
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@secularmerlin
Good point. Sometimes defining is believing. If the cosmos, conscious or not, exactly as it exists outside human ego is being defined as "god" then "god" becomes a logical necessity.
Believing, in that which we have arrived at via rational, logical common sense pathways of thought, that, are based in observations of environment --Universe--- is easy.
Proofs is a whole other story that only leads some people into rabbit hole of ...'cant believe without proof'...type of thinking.
I dont believe the car approaching me is going to cross the center line and hit me, so a certain amount of driving involves believe, trust and faith on histroical experiences of self and others.
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Why are there 300 sextillion stars
In and eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God, that numerical value could increase or decrease, eternally.
What we do know, is that, there exists a seeminly finite set of cosmic/universal laws/principles and one of those is as follows;
1} ......naught is created nor destroyed, only inter-transformed......
2} their cannot exist more the five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe,
3} when base unity of a circle 360 degrees, the sum of angles of a Euclidean triangle can only be 180 degrees,
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@secularmerlin
With some degree of confidence greater than my confidence in some higher power or intrinsic meaning.
SM, it is only you that applys a meaning --intrinsic or not--- for your experiences.
As for a "higher power", you may say it is the synergetic effects of;
1} Gravity ( ), --contraction aka mass-atraction---
2} Dark Energy )(, --repulsive aka cosmological constant----
3} fermionic matter, bosonic forces and any collection thereof ex humans, trees, planets, etc.
We think { most complex Metaphysical1 { spirit-1 }, about something { occupied space finger, toe etc } ergo we exist via our sensorial { 31 bilateral nerves , 12/24 cranial nerves, brain etc } occupied space.
We experience memory of past sensorial experiences and may communicate { via access to intellect } that, to self and others.
We appear to have access to Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts, that, do not occupy space, have no energy, no charge, no spin, etc.
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@janesix
Prove it.
Please share when you have something of significance. I trust the cosmologist experts more than I trust your layperson opinnion with absolutly nothing I asked you to present. Please stay away from this thread until you offer what asked from you in message #30
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@janesix
Me too. Black holes are a lie.
Yet what cosmologist have found at center of many galaxies is what appears to be most likened to what they believe a black hole would be.
Do you have some rational, logical common sense explanation to consider the evidence cosmologists have discovered and believe to be black holes?
Do have some evidence to suggest other wise or what exactly is at the center of these galaxies that appear have black holes?
No?
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@zedvictor4
They might be staggered.
Your mind and ego are the primary set of "staggering" around here. Please share when find, acknowledge and express truth and facts Ive presented to you. You will have to place you ego to the side to do so. Ego is Metaphysical-1 ergo naught is created or lost, only placed to side to allow for truth and facts to enter, processed with rational, logical common sense.
Can you do that? No?, I didnt think so.
Fermionic matter >< Bosonc forces
ex elecron >< photon
Then the more recently discovered hybrid fermioninc set.
The sum-total of finite particles is labeled Universe/God
If we include Metaphysical-1, { spirit-1 } and Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space.then our labeling is "U"niverse/"G"od
Zed, you dont want simple or complex truths. You want magic unicorns and faries.
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@zedvictor4
Sad is as sad does.
..""Romper, bomper, stomper boo. Tell me, tell me, tell me, do. Magic Mirror, tell me today, did all my friends have fun at play?"...
Goopy, follow the bouncing ball as if you were on Romper RoomLINK Zed and repeat after me, if you dare.
Follow the bouncing ball. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts
----conceptual line-of-demarcation------------
Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied space
Ulta-micro, invisible, Metaphysical-3 = contractive { mass-attractive } Gravity ( ) and,
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Reality { Observed Time } = sine-wave /\/\/\/ pattern associated particles quantised and quantified ergo fermions, bosons and the hybrid set of those two.
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Ultra-micro, invisible, Metaphysical-4 = Dark Energy )(
..Space( <l> ) i ( <l> )Space..... = 2ndary symbolism for "U"niverse/"G"od i.e. the most wholistic cosmic set that includes the trinary and primary types of existence.
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@zedvictor4
Event and duration, require space and matter....Time is the duration of the event....Simple cosmic concept.
Except you did not include the whole class of bosons or the recenty discoverd hybrid fermion/boson particles. Fermioninc matter is just one of three primary catagory of particles, not to mention you did not include Gravity or Dark Energy ergo,
You "Simple Cosmic concept" lacks validity, truth, fact and Ive present these truths to you several times in this thread, ergo your deaf brain leaves you clueless to these truths. I think your ego blockages is the primary problem here.
Space, matter and time....Call it a cosmic trinity.
Call anything you want, it is still invalid, not accurate, the whole set of particle catagories ergo you trinity lacks rational logical common sense to be labeled "Cosmic" anything.
Spacetime is just a compound, astrophysical buzzword that describes the above....Things occur in space over a period of time.
Occupied Space { things } occurs eternally Zed. Your above is compound complex mish-mash attempt at saying something that has significance.
Your ego just wont let you speak a greater cosmic truth. Why? Cause you walk in fear of more refined cosmic truths. Why? Cause ebuc presented them to you. Ive seen this ego blockage problem from others for years. Old news.
Time and Space are intangible so therefore do not require creation.
Huh? Observed Time and occupied space are not intangible, except currently for Metaphysical Gravity and Dark Energy. You statement is not only false it is meaningless dribble.
Can we also confidently say that matter does not require creation?
Apparrenty we can say anyting we want to say irrespective of whether it is cosmic truth, absolute truth, relative truth, lies, falsehoods etc.
We can say unicorns and faries exist in Zeds house to keep him sane company as he ponders cosmic truths and falsehoods.
If there was no matter would time and space not be possibilities?
You mean fermionic matter, bosonic forces and the hybrid set. Ego still blocking many brain circuits to truth.
The answer is no and grounds that such macro-micro infinit non-occupied space would be more irrelevant than it already is.
No such condition has ever existed so it is really a moot question, kinda of like lets invent unicornsand and faries so we have something new to talk about. Universe is just to dull so lets get and Xbox to zap unicorns into existence in the non-existence of non-space of non-truths of non-rational, non-logical, non-common sense.....but plenty of ego blockages Sad :--( Read my lips for a change Zed, maybe you can attempt to learn some cosmic truths, instead of compounded mish-mash thinking.
/\ = 2ndayr symbolism for woman aka /**\ ---internalised ovaries---
Y = 2ndary symbolism for man aka *Y* --externalised testes----
( <l> )( <l> ) = 2ndary symbolism for Universe/God --aka the great spirit in the sky--- constructed from a myriad set of tori and truncated di-pryamid { <> } Graviton and Darkions
..Space( <l> ) i ( <l> )Space..... = 2ndary symbolism for "U"niverse/"G"od i.e. the most wholistic cosmic set that includes the trinary top three types of existence;
1} eternally existent, Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept
-----conceptual line-of-demarcation------
2} eternally existent, macro infinite non-occupied Space, that, embraces the following,
3} eternally existent finite, occupied Space Universe/God
No magical unicorns are faries in the above, just rational, logical common sense pathways of thought. Albeit cosmic thoughts.
Bring out the magical matter unicorns and leave the bosons in the toliet and then flush the toilet so Zeds ego can keep avoiding the watering hole of truth. Sad :---(
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Arrow-of-Time >>>>>> Past >>>>>>In >>> ( * ) i ( * ) >> Out >>>>>>> Future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
........................................................Space( * ) i ( * )Space..................................................
Flow-of-Time <<< Past {resultants } <<< ( * ) i ( * ) <<< In <<<< Cause { Future } <<<<<<<<
i = Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts ergo ego
( ) = contractive { convergent } Gravity ( ),
)( = repulsive { divergent } Dark Energy )(
* * = bilateral consciousness with woman being the most complex entity of Universe that we know of
italics = Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } Arrow-of-Time and ego { i }
/\ = 2ndayr symbolism for woman aka /**\ ---internalised ovaries---
Y = 2ndary symbolism for man aka *Y* --externalised testes----
( <l> )( <l> ) = 2ndary symbolism for Universe/God --aka the great spirit in the sky--- constructed from a myriad set of tori and truncated dipryamid { <> }Graviton and Darkions
..Space( <l> ) i ( <l> )Space..... = 2ndary symbolism for "U"niverse/"G"od i.e. the most wholistic cosmic set that includes the trinary top three types of existence;
1} eternally existent, Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept
-----conceptual line-of-demarcation------
2} eternally existent, macro infinite non-occupied Space, that, embraces the following,
3} eternally existent finite, occupied Space Universe/God
No magical unicorns are faries in the above, just rational, logical common sense pathways of thought. Albeit cosmic thoughts.
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@FLRW
.....zedvictor4, 3RU7AL and myself are Substantivalists....
Occupied space > subtance, i..e substance is sub-set of occupied space. Simple minimal brainer that I presented to Zed in this thread to no avail as he ego blocks any 90% of the info into his brain, that I present.
I think I even went so far to give him dictionary quote of substance. Waste of time and effort to engage people whose ego blocks all incoming info.
FL, please share when you want to;
1} address specific comments by me, --via rational, logical common sense--,
2} find error, non-truth or invalid info, --via rational, logical common sense---,
3} or add to my Cosmic Trinary Outline --via rational, logical common sense pathways of thought--- ergo any and all of the Cosmic Trinary Outline subsets, some of which Ive presented here there, and elsewhere in this thread, and many others the year or more Ive been here at DArt and the former Debate.org.
The thing, is there are few if any truly cosmic thinkers in this forum.
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@zedvictor4
Simple cosmic truths are easy to understand......Complex cosmic hypotheses less so.
Two primary/fundamental kinds of Space, and your ego will not allow you to state them ---because i promote them as truth-- much less ackolwedge there existence --ego blind spot---;
1} macro -infinite non-occupied space --aka true empty space--- and this is the non-occupied space that some believe the some how a magical purple unicorn ----with a fary on its head---- created our finite occupied space that is somehow magically become infinite in existence.
2} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.
Five lines of text. Is that too complex for you Zed? Yes? Yeah I thought so.
"EGO" .....Is your expectancy, that everyone else should know what you are going on about.
No "EGO" is the Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concept, of those, who have had repeated access too, many various formats of my expressing the Cosmic Trinary Outline ---and tons of related subset information---, are whose "EGO" keeps them in fear of repeating even one line of text Ive presented, as a truth.
Ex naught is lost or created only transformed. Your "EGO" thinks that is not simple enough ergo it avoids any such rational, logical common sense concepts of they were the plague.
And to realise the ability (potential) of time and space, matter is required.....Simple....But too simple for you it would seem.
This statement of yours is meaning less dribble and not a simple truth. A human whose brain is funcitoning reasonably well has the potential, to become a master of any profession they choose. In actuality/reality most humans do not become the master of their profession. They do enough to get by get their paycheck til the move on to the next job/profession.
That is human potential and human female is most complex entity of Universe, that, we know to exist.
Your "potential" is not a potential to do or become this or that. You "potential" is just a word you through into a line of text as tho you think it is meant to express a meaning of some sort or another.
Universe does not have potential. Universe IS. Universe is eternally changing ---ergo dynamic--- set of transforming parts, wherein we find at least one set of geometrically diametric pairs, that, never cease to exist. Universe does not have any alledged "potential" to become something not complemented by the finite set of cosmic laws/principles.
Truly macro-infinite non-occupied space does not have "potential" to become occupied space, except as Metaphysical-1 concept aka mind-at-play.
1} Outer peak of Contractive { mass-attractive/convergent } Gravity ( ),
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3} Inside the tube of Sine-wave/\/\//\ reality aka Observed Time with potential resultant of Gravity and Dark Energy?
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2} Inner Peak ofRepulsive { divergent } Dark Energy )(.
Simpleton............................Space( * ) i ( * )Space........................Simpleton
A} Simpleton >>> Arrow-of-Time >>> Past >>>>> In >>> ( * ) i ( * ) >>> Out >>>Future>>
B} Simpleton <<< Flow-of-Observed Time << Past <<< Out << ( * ) i ( * ) << In << Future
i = ego { Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/concept
( ) ( ) = symbolism for tori that two or more interfering compose every particle of Universe, except for perhaps Graviton and Darkion
* * = bilateral consciousness ex Zed-V-4
/\ = symbolism for woman aka /* *\
Y = symbolism for man aka *Y*
XYZ aka abc with 'd' being the 45 degree volumentric diagonal of Metaphysical-1, hyper-space concepts of cube inside of a cube, or,
'd' as the 12 surface diagonals of a cube that stabilize the eight, 90 degree corners of cube as two tetrahedra ergo 12 vectors of cube and surface 12 diagonal vectors of two tetrahedra See LINK
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@zedvictor4
Eternally existent, is acceptance, because that is all we currently have...
Still cant address what is presented to you. Ego still in the way.
Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe is what is presented to you. Whether you accept it as truth, or not, is any body's guess, because your ego does keeps you in check ergo comments that walk a distance around watering hole of truth, never getting near enough to touch it ergo you speak in riddles of eternal, and acceptance and all that we have as if that actually follows any rational, logical common sense pathways of clear meaning to anyone.
Event and duration require three things Time, Space and Matter.....Other corruptions of the words time and space, relate to other theoretical stuff that I don't need to get bogged down in.
You dont wont to get bogged in water hole of truth because yoru ego walks in fear of some cosmic truths i.e. Observed Time is;
....fermionic matter,
......bosonic forces,
......hybrid set of those two,
......Gravity ( ) Metaphysical-3, and,
......Dark Energy )( Metaphysical-4.
Space is primarily/fundamentally two-fold---occupied and non-occupied--- and your ego cannot bring you to face this simple truth either. There exists no infinite occupied space. Unless you subscribe to Bucky Fuller's micro-infinte subdivision of Universe concepts. That is whole other radical idea that Ive been considering for 20 years or more.
The basic principle of time, simply allows an event to have duration....Potential
Not potential, actuality as reality aspects of Universe aka Observed Time. The word "potential" is irrelevant.
Observed Time { quantised and quantified particles } is Universe of those collections of particles as associated with sine-wave patterns. This all old news that you fail to grasp. Or ego blocks your ability to acknowledge such truths.
We have not quantised nor quantified Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )( ergo both are Metaphysical and you dont grasp that yet, or you ego blocks your ability to acknowledge those truths.
The basic principle of space, simply allows an event to occur.....Potential
The macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space --that embraces finite, occupied space Universe--- has no potential. Sorry Zed but your clueless in these concepts, or your ego is just working overtime to avoid truths as presented to you.
Neither basic principle, requires further explanation.
You have offered any rational, logical common sense explantation. Your playing mind games because your ego walks in fear of some cosmic truths.
Only matter requires explanation, and we currently have no explanation for it's existence, other than...Matter is, therefore it can't not be....
Fermioninc matter, bosonic forces, the hybrid set, Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )( can be explained partially, irrespective fear of what is known about them. Old news of old truths weve known about Gravity since Newton and Eienstein and Dark Energy since the 90's.
When you actually { reality } want to enter the ball cosmic ball park aka the watering-hole-of cosmic-truths, please share something of rational, logical common sense, so we may all partake of the intellectual knowledge base. Your still out in the parking lot shooting paint balls over the wall with purpe unicorns and faeries on them.
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@3RU7AL
It is important to maintain a constant awareness of and vigilant respect of our epistemological limits.
I.e,
finite = systemic and structural integrity ergo wholemenss [ in dyanmic change }, enclosure { in dyanmic change } an eternally existent finite set of changing states of three the two primary fundamental states/phases of occupied space { Gravity and Dark Energy, with the possibility of the sine-wave associated Observed Time set of fermions, bosons and the hybrid set asl being eternally existent at some value count.
infinite = lack of integrity becuase of no wholeness, no enclosure, no time oriented containment
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@zedvictor4
Ok....In simple terms... Space and time are intangible potentials that do not necessarily need explanation.
Zed, this above "intangible potentials" needs much more clarifiying specifics and elaboration. Ive been very clear as to two kinds of time over last few years;
.......abstract ergo Metaphysical-1, ex minutes, seconds horus days, symbolized as,
.........the>>> Arrow-of-Time->>Past>>>In>( * ) i ( * )>Out>>>Future >>>>>and,
........Observed Time ergo associated with sine-wave pattern /\/\/\/ as,
......the <<<<-Flow-of-Time <<<Past<<<Out ( * ) i ( * )<< In<<<<<Future<<<<
......a two primary/fundamental kinds of Metaphysical Space, that each have specific gometries that are diametrically opposed to each other.
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Essentially "Universe" is matter, and the ongoing potential, development, evolution of matter....The limited potential of matter to occupy a space within a given time.
Matter = fermions ergo fermionic matter --see electrons, neutrinoes, quarks and there equal in size adn number anti-particles.
Then there are the bosonic forces. As I stated before, fermions transform into other fermions or bosons and vice versa. This is placing the recently discovered hybrid of these two types to the side for now.
As for "limited potential" I agin, need much more clarifying details on what exactly it is you think your trying to convey to self, and others.
So.... If we accept that matter can be reduced to both a finite micro-state and ultimately only expand to a finite macro-state.... And if we also accept that matter cannot be destroyed, then it's fair to suggest that the process of initiation-development-collapse would be ongoing...Ergo sequential.
"micro-state" I assume you mean minimal quantum particles of fermions, bosons, hybrids, Gravity and Dark Energy, then yes, I think that does occur and humans observe with fermions and bosons other than Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )(.
1st law/principle of thermodynamic states is translated as naught is lost or created, only transformed various states/phases of occupied space existentc and this, and your above, is generalized in folllowing statement, that others ignore cause of its refined closeness to absolute truth;
...........................eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe...........
and generalized means it covers not only physiial/reality we observe, but also of Metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) and Metaphysical-4 Dark Energy )(.
So at some point there is a re-initiation...The ultimate point of universal collapse and re-birth....The GOD principle.
naught is created nor destroyed only transformed. Ive laid this all cleary for many years now in Cosmic Trinary Oultine and elsewhere. I present it and rarely it is addressed as stated by you or others. The reason for that is it is more refined set of absolute truths that no one else can add too or detract from with any rational, logical common sense.
"collapse" = contraction { convergent } ergo mass-attractive Gravity, that, is assumed and alledged by cosmologist to be the cause of suns being created that then radiatntly { dipersive/divegent } release the energy gravity has collaced as a star.
I merely suggest that the GOD principle may require a facilitator.....Knowledge......The purpose of evolution and the development of intelligence therein.
"knowledge" = Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/concepts. Ive been presenting this for some ten years or more. Old news you still avoid as truth.
Nonetheless....Time and space are just potential, whereas matter is tangible....So despite physical "laws" it is impossible for me to accept that matter (or a creator being) could exist ad infinitum....Even though this does seem to be the only solution.
Youve lost me with your "potential" only commnets for "time and space". Matter and bosons are both tangible, tho photons are tangible only via thee energy levels of electrons{ matter }.
Something from absolute nothing, is the toughie that exceeds all explanation.
It is not a tough at all. It is only tough cause some people want to believe in purle unicorns and faries.
Naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed ergo eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe. Can you repeat after me?
No you cant as most cannot because, their ego wont let them. Sad :--(
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@3RU7AL
I'm not convinced that sheet-metal wind-chimes are going to help us dispose of nuclear waste.
My error as that is one thing they do not do. They do not eat nuclear waste products.
Building more nukes to eat the nuclear waste is an option that I do not support.
The best answers Ive seen are solidification in glass like end product, with option to some send back to sun from whence it all came.
Abort nuclear power and spread human rights to live safer lives on Earth.
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@3RU7AL
Chernyoble used graphite to absorb the heat and so your above modular breeder fission reactors replaces graphite with liquied molten salt reactors { SMR } ---see Indias hope for future development f SMR breeder reactors---
When the humans pulled the rods out of graphite for too long of time, they caused the explosion.
..."Sensible safeguards. Protactinium separations provide a pathway for obtaining highly attractive weapons-grade uranium 233 from thorium fuel cycles. The difficulties of safeguarding commercial spent fuel reprocessing are significant for any type of fuel cycle, and thorium is no exception.
.....Reprocessing creates unique safeguard challenges, particularly in India, which is not a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
...There is little to be gained by calling thorium fuel cycles intrinsically proliferation-resistant. The best way to realize nuclear power from thorium fuel cycles is to acknowledge their unique proliferation vulnerabilities, and to adequately safeguard them against theft and misuse.......
Abort nuclear fusion and fission in the name of human rights, to live in a world without nuclear dangers that include nuclear weapons proliferation
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@zedvictor4
Mr Ebuc......Not that I ever understand, but you got me thinking.
Mr Zed4, always happy for those who think good thoughts as well as rational, logical common sense thoughts
The principle.... That is an ongoing, physical, universal process (material evolution), in which organic intelligence plays a vital role and therefore gives us, as a universal species, an inevitable, pre-ordained purpose.
Principle { finite set } = eternally existent, Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concept, that, always complement dynamic occupied Space existence of process ex see Arthur Youngs Theory of Process associated with torus and number 7.
I would, be contradicting this simple hypothesis, if I didn't accept that the purpose of the GOD principle is also our purpose.....Which is the perpetuation of a universal sequence.
Universal Sequence = eternally existent Universe/God ergo etermal processing of dynamic transformative changes of energy { Observed Time }, Metaphysical Gravity and Metaphysical Dark Energy. 1st law/principle discovered as Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/concept, exists eternally in complement to the dynamic process of change { transformation } of;
.....fermions to other fermions,
.....bosons to other bosons and
.....between fermions to bosons or vice versa.
As such the purpose of the GOD principle is the re-initiation of the sequence....And the role of organic intelligence within that sequence is it to facilitate the re-establishment of the GOD principle.....GOD-Material Evolution-GOD...Etc. Etc. Etc.
The universal sequence is what complements 1st law/principle of thermodynamic { energy } ---and I add in Metaphysical Gravity and Metaphysical Dark Energy since they are primary/fundamental Space we to not observe { quantise nor quantify }, at least not to date, if ever.
And the development of other, less fragile Alternative Intelligence's would seem to be the way forward...... Whether or not we will be along for the complete ride....Might or might not be a necessary consideration.
So AI is the way out of something however, I have no idea what you going on about here. Needs more detailed elaboration that, may be under development by you and/or others.
Nonetheless, despite the unlimited possibility of the universal sequence, there is still an unanswered magical, GODLESS beginning to consider.
I dont understand what you think it is is your "universal sequence" is specifically. I think your trying to say 1st law/principle of thermodynamic { energy } with actually saying that. Naught can be created nor destroyed is law/principle discovered by humans in late 1800's.
1st law/principle of thermodynamics = no beginning, "magical" or otherwise, i.e. eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God { spirit-2, 3 and 4 } exists in complement to;
1}eternally existent, Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 }, mind/intellect/concepts,
2} eternally existent Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space.
Zed, until you can grasp and acknowledge to self, the Cosmic Trinary Outline as a truth, you will keep stumbling around orbiting truth at greater, less refined defining of truth distance from truth.
I can lead a horse/human to truth/water however, I cannot make the horse/human touch or see the truth. It is like your at in some left over half dried mud, where water was existent previously, but mostly evaporated and trying to figure out what your standing in.
Purpose is Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept principle that humans apply to self, other and Universe. Purpose is not what and eternally existent Universe/God applys to itself.
Universe/God does not think. Universe/God IS. IS eternally existent, finite, occupied space, that some label as the only perpetual motion machine.
So Zed after so many years of my posting the Cosmic Trinary Outline, with various formatting or grammar changes, you still dont understand anything Ive presented? ...... "Not that I ever understand" ..... :--(
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@3RU7AL
Ebuc......The woman steers all matters regarding the fetus, unless she ask for others input.
3ru....END. OF. MOTHERFUCKING. STORY.
Ha, dont all rational, logical, common sense people with moral integrity wish for.
End-time-for-humanity-on-Earth, because of culture stupidity.
Ex
...1} ex millions who believe erratic climate change { 200's } is hoax, < Global Warming { 1990's } < Greenhouse effect {1980's }
...I have a new link for this one I can share privately for friends who do not exhibit stupiditly listed in the following set......
...2} 74 million who voted for the king of hoaxers, Trumpet, ---and that does not include the same stupidity that did not bother to vote at all---, and those world wide of the same bigoted stupidity mind-set,
....3} those who believe nukes are the answer, even tho nukes to not take any greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere,
......not to mention long list of detrimental side effects of nukes ex hydrogen bombs......
.....4} those who believe humaniites current existing systems will sustain any rate of growth of human population on Earth, because it is Gods will for humans to proliferate faster than rabbits,
...5} that masks have absolutely no effect on deterring viral infections, or not enough to be of any significance,
...6} other I cant recall off-hand
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@secularmerlin
That was beautiful ebuc. Truly it was.
Thank you and that is good to hear, since my reply to Weakear Edge lack some grammatical clariy, even tho he was able to get the the primary points of the reply.
Thank you also Wedge
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@secularmerlin
I do not treat my dog as a contentious actor for example even though it seems to show signs of happiness and unhappiness, memory retention, even property rights (her toys are hers and my shoes are mine).
Some men view a woman as their property and that they have a right to treat the woman any way they want to, to varying degrees for each man.
Once a male dog --or human man-- gives his spermazoa to the woman, it is not longer his property and he has no rights to it, unless he and the woman have a pre-arranged contract of property rights.
The man is then responsible for the organism of womans fetus, --or independent new human--- only as far as the woman agrees to that response-abillity.
The woman steers all matters regarding the fetus, unless she ask for others input.
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@zedvictor4
If there is a GOD, then it's purpose would be it's purpose.
Zed, yo know this borders on Goopy speak? And similar to Zen-like Universe IS? Or more Zen to just say IS.
IS = eternally existent, finite, occupied Space Universe with bilateral creatures that have access to Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts, that,
.....have ability to conceptually place themselves outside of a conceptual finite Universe, as if they were a God, with ability to hold and shape the conceptual Universe in their conceptual hands.
This alledged Atheist Deception' of what God is, needs to be clarified by identifying two of G catagory's of God/Universe, that, I done for some ten years now, in my Cosmic Trinary Oultine.
" U "niverse/" G 'od place in italics is specific the most all-inclusive, wholistic comprehension of abstract conceptual viewpoint i.e. this labeling includes;
.....1] eternally existent, finite set of Metaphysical-1 spirit-1 }, mindintellect/concepts,
----conceptual line-of-demarcation-------------
.....2} eternally existent, Metaphysical-2 { macro-infinite non-occupied Space }, that, embraces surrounds the following,
............2a} eternally existent, finite, occupied Space Universe/God, that, include fermions, bosons, recently discoverd hybrid of those two and and any collective set thereof,
....................3b] eternally existent, Metaphysical-3, contractive [ mass-attractive } Gravity,
....................4c} eternally existent, Metaphysical-4, repulsive { cosmological constant divergence } Dark Energy.
For those individual who actually seek the greatest truths, they need to start with the above, as presented, that, is the greatest whole set, and that way no catagorial parts are left out i.e. no parts are not included in the following termology.
All is included in these two terms " U "niverse/" G "od in italics and the
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@HistoryBuff
.....what? no. I didn't say anything like that...
As if you expecet GP to fairly address what you state.
Trumpets words to all of insurrections and 74 million inepts { deplorable }...."we love you" and "your special" and his final words about capitol terrosim "...this is just the beginning"....
It is the beginning if this narcissistic, racist bigoted nut-case nazi's is ever given a platform to encourage them to continue to "fight like hell".
Their leader Trumpet is not being held accountable by most of the republicans in the Senate. Spineless cowards who lack moral integrity. Sad at best, dangerous to all USA citizens and humanity, at worst. Their basically narrow-minded idiots who cannot see beyond what will their votes in there district think of them.
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@Theweakeredge
IF that being is aware that they exist, THEN they have sentience. Having partial sentience might be something like having a notion that you exist.
They absolutely exist, as an organism --aka fetus fertilized egg or other-- of the pregnant woman.
They do not exist ad independent human individual aka the unborn, ergo ,
...1} they do breath via there own lung muscles,
...2} the have not taken there first breath of oxygen ---aka in-spiration { inspiried }--To avoid or deny all of the above is clear lack of moral integrity.
People who do no acknowledge these truths are narrowed minded, short-sided and I believe in many cases, sick-in-the-head individuals seeming to be adult humans, with a lack of rational, logical common sense. Sad very sad
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So what exact manifest via this short circuiting process of mechanism?
2p short-circuits to 3p on the outer peak event horizon, instead of #1 going on a curved trajectory to the peak of inner curvature as 2p?
Since were presuming this process is a trajectory, then we may visualize lateral oscillation of a sine-wave pattern occurring on the outer peak, event-horizon, before we get to the first inversion-outversion V at 23p. Or is not and inversion-outversion but a trajectory that follows the curvature around to the inner peak event horizon?
H,mmm, based on this we can now see a new set of trajectory options.
Option 1} stays as Ive presented over the last 8 years,
Option 2} outer event horizon lateral oscillating sine-wave pattern with first alternate trajectory at 23p,
/1\2p/3p\4/5p\6/7p\/8\9/10\11p/12\13p/14\15/16\17p/18\19p/20\21/22\23pV { invert-outvert } to inside top, peak of reality sine-wave /\/\/
Option 3} outer event horizon, lateral oscillation of a sine-wave pattern, with first alternate trajectory at 23p,
/1\2p/3p\4/5p\6/7p\/8\9/10\11p/12\13p/14\15/16\17p/18\19p/20\21/22\23p wherein trajectory follows surface curvature to inner peak horizon as #24,
however, in latter option 3], we have changed the whole patter original pattern, wherein we find all primes ---except 2p and 3p--- on the outer peak event horizon.
Finally, as always, we remind the reader that we associating each of Fullers 87 primary great circles with an abstract spinal great axis inside on as the abstract great circle inside-the-tube
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Prime ---via prime and non-primes--- on the outer peak-of-positive curvature line of prime torus, are what allow for initiation of short-circuits, that, I'm thinking specifically of the first non-twin prime #23p. #25 is Bucky Fullers first "turn-around" number, then #50, so on.
What if the outer peak event #1 short circuits as outer set of 2p-3p-4-5p --{ 3p-5p are twins }--, and then the and then twin prime occurrence ends at 23p?
#23p may be first inversion of for whole catagory of particles ex fermions, bosons or the new hybrid set of those two.
Then we think, what if innner peak #2p short-circuits, but no, because there are no single primes, not twin primes and no primes at all ever on this inner peak of curvature, after 2p.
I mean, I dunno. Just a thought involving a numerically procedural mechanism of process, that, perhaps can only the outer line, ergo, because of prime relationships on the outer event prime line t -hat has short-circuited from 1 > 2p-3p > 4 > 5p-7p > 8 > 9 > 10 > 11p-13p, 14 > 15 > 16 > 17p-19p > 21 > 22 23p and invert here V
So consider this, that whole set of particles within that are fermionic or bosonic, ---or the newly found hybrid set of those two-- or, a whole sub-set of particles found in only the fermiomic matter, set or bosonic force set catagory?
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@3RU7AL
Thank you 3ru, and it is the significantly more relevant moral standing viewpoint.
Its pretty simple others should keep their friggen noses out of the pregnant womans body, unless she give her consent for other ---most often strangers-- to violate he body and mind. Sic in the the head these type of people.
I bet 25% of these sic-n-the-head people are into conspiracy theroies that deny truth of many of the mass shootings we see in USA, and/or conspiracy theories of a shadow government etc. Just plain sic-n-head people who have no moral desire to seek truth.
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@Benjamin
The independent, individual human has humans rights.
The non-indepenent, non-individual human fetus sovereignty lies with the pregnant mother to be.
All other sovereignties, stepping in to override the pregnant mother-to-be's decissions, is an immoral abuse of power and shows they are sick-in-the-head nutcases.
The mother-to-be is the only soveriegnty to the non-individual, no-dinedpendent, fetus and unless she gives her consent or is incapacitated ergo no able to give consent, all others have no rights to the fetus { an organsim of the mother }
Men who claims rights th sperm they gave to a woman, give away their rights to their sperm, only they gave their spern to the woman. Unless the two parties have prior contract. the man has given away his seed to the woman to deal with as she and only she sees fit.
All others must bow to her wishes on the matter of the fetus. Any attempt otherwise should be locked away in jail for some period of time with restraining orders to say some number of miles from the pregnant mother-to-be.
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@zedvictor4
As I see it, the GOD principle has only one current objective.....And that is not, to be worshipped by stupid humans....But to be perpetuated by clever humans.
I think you mean God as Universe. A.I. does not exist on its own. Swarm intelligence is combination of AI { less complex than humans } ,and more complex humans, steer-ability.
We have not evidence for mind/intellect accessing creatures anywhere in Universe ergo 'Rare Earth' concept. This 'Rare Earth" concept is not on humanities mind and the first white, motown rock group LINK "Rare Earth' i still touring has of 2021.
Still Universe is a large, finite set of possiblities. In 60's, 70's it humanities future looked bleak to many. To those in the know, it only looks bleaker these days.
Party like its 1999 Prince LINK is one good option, irrespective of what ever else we do.
Historically much asian philosphical religous base is about remaining harmony. Remaing in balance. If China is the path for unification of humanity, then I say 211 years of leeway to play with. There Silk Road is due to be completed in 40 years, ---now thats long term planning for the future--- and that will be 100 years since chinas cultural revolution .
So take 40 off 211 years and that is about 160 years after year 2041. There a few wild cards in the deck;
1} 10 or more nations with hydrogen bombs,
2} pressures casused by erratic climate changes,
3} potential new technologies,
4} unknowns that have potential for major global societal disruptions. ex volcanoe explosion larger than sine humans recorded history,5} ?
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@zedvictor4
Hopefully Trump and more so the spectre of ultra right wing conservatism, was a lesson learned.
74 million in last presidential election learned nothing of any signifcance to benifit humanity.
Human stupidity is partially why historically, it has been a dictator type that has forced some portion of humanity into a unified whole.
That will never be a permanent solution. Humans will have to be educated to see why our existence is most likley via a unified whole of common agreement, to what ever percentage of vote we can agree on.
Computer modeling can give us many scenarios of the way forward. Synergy of AI and humans is Swarm Intelligence that is the best option forward, unfortunately we have or may have too many stupid humans and that means, it is most likely we will have a dictator type who once again will attempt to unify a greater portion of humanity.
China is attempting to do its economic growth via its economic tentacles connecting Asia, Middle-east, Africa Europe. India etc.
USA is doomed to become isolated nation that will be allowed to not prosper and fall into civil unrest. Ahh but USA, like Pakistan, China, France, israel and soon Iran, hydrogen bombs. My prognostications say these will all culminate to the end-of-humanity in and around the year 2232 and that is about 211 years from 2021.
Defund the police? How are we going to defund human stupidity?
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@3RU7AL
I have a feeling the underlying AXIOMS (moral instincts) are very similar for all social mammals.
Ergo the three kinds of brain;
- Reptilian or Primal Brain (Basal Ganglia)
- Paleomammalian or Emotional Brain (Limbic System)
- Neomammalian or Rational Brain (Neocortex)
All three have nervous associated nervous system of feelings. Humans just have additional factors of accessing Metaphysical-1{ spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts
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@Sum1hugme
Thank you for the diagnosis lol. Now how about you set your ego aside and provide some proof of your assertions?
Your welcome. Where is my ego the problem as compared to where you ego is the problem --in error-- Ive clearly laid out?
Substance - A particular kind of matter with uniform properties [1].
Fermionic "Matter'= occupied space
Bosonic force = occupied space and both of these are old news to those who seek truth
Can you prove that a concept is not a physical phenomenon, since we know that thoughts correspond to brain activity?
abstract = ...'existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.'......LINK ergo Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } And again, this old news to those who seek truth. Is 'definition of 'abtract' a "proof"? No, it is a common enough agreement to be valid in at least one dictionary --if not may others--.
If you want proofs then it is best to stick with mathematics as people in philsophical circles go way off into its all an illusion of brain the stuff that occurs outside of the brain and not the actually the stuff taking place outside the brain, so on and so on.
This why some people went into mathematics, cause there exists proofs for this or that conclusion, instead of all other philosophical based conclusions.
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@3RU7AL
I think that's more of a "rational" choice than a purely instinctive (moral) choice.
Morals an be arrived at rationally and with Swarm A.I. we are given exactly those kinds of choices out in front of potential arriving situations in future.
It is BECAUSE an infant needs more protection that our instincts (generally) more strongly coax us to protect infants.
Yes, I agree and it is those instincts that kick in more in some than others, altho when our own detriment is involved in situations where we may have a minute or seconds more to consider our options we may be allowed to override Swarm AI primary codes.
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@3RU7AL
Ok, well, there's also the fact that some people are born with a "Y" that has an extra, partial leg (not enough to make an "X") and these people tend to manifest a mixture of both male-typical and female-typical physiologies.
Ive heard it said that all babies or fetus's begin as female and the SRY gene ---or whatever mcehanism--- causes the clit, to protrude outward to become the head of the penis.
And that is not to be confused with female who has extended clitoris. Again, X chromosome has no SRY gene unless it is tranferred from the much smaller y.
And again, it is assumed the SRY gene evolved from the X chromosome. Or can from outer space or the mechanism the cause y to evolve from X came from outer space.
Xx - Xy = Trinary three with X repeating itself in males
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@3RU7AL
1) one baby in a stroller (2) one boy (3) one girl (4) one pregnant woman (5) two male doctors(6) two female doctors
My choice may have been to elminate all the males first, and more so in case of only a few humans left on Earth except for the following consideration.
Next, if only a few humans on Earth, the boy or girl are assumed to have better chance of actually surviving, than infant, so baby is my choice to go before boy or girl
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@3RU7AL
Ok except the SRY gene is not found in X chromosome without relationship to the y, so it is not obvious in consideration of that.
Again, it is assumed that that the SRY evolved { -de-volved } from the X chromosome.
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@3RU7AL
SWARM INTELLIGENCE SOLVES THE TROLLEY PROBLEM.
So humans become Star Treks, 'The Borg' with moral constructs within the Borg { aggrregate human morality set }.
Good concept, tho without input of all humans ---ergo all human cultures---, we may still have some parts of the Trinary Core Code that have uncalled for cracks in the code.
In Great Britain or other countries with socialized medicine, the decission is made that greater the age, the less expense that is placed on the individuals care. If I understand correctly.
In the Swam Intelligence video the "the boy" was chosen to be run over by car, but then again I dont have list of all the AI options in front of me.
If there was girl and boy options then girls make sense for those who understand that there are female species of animals that make exactly clones of themselves, whereas there is no male species that can do that. This means that if human women have option to carry on without men, then there is evolutionary chance the the sexual biodiversity { the male seed } could evolve from the female and in fact is what some genetics have shown to be where the y chromosome came from originally
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@Greyparrot
Ha, GP you cant seriously call that a cannon. Get real dude. LINK to largest cannon every bulit. There has only been cannon that had more BOOM pound for pound and that was the Trumpet
So the mobster Trumpet is the self built cannon with superficial layer of gold colored paint.
He and others have been creating rhetoric of false narrative gun powder and heating a multi-layered cannonball of lies, deceit, dis-information, misinformation, false narrative conspiracy and racist bigotry for four years and then, falsely labels it all as patriotism.
At Washington D.C. he writes onto one one side of cannon, in small letters, and with cheap white crayons, 'March Peacefully'. See current day Peggy March LINK
.....Yeah right, he said to the angry crowd, "we" are going to march down to the capital. He never marched anywhere except to his golf course.....
On other side of cannon he writes in bold black letters, 'We Love You' and 'Your Special'.
...Melania thought he was talking about her, lucky for USA she is not blonde, or maybe she is.....
On the bottom of the cannon, he writes with invisible ink 'Insurrection'.
...aka inter-dick-son and nope, his dick-sons didnt march to the capital either......
On the top of the cannon he has also carved the words, 'I'm the Greatest President Ever'
..........but of course........
Then he loads the cannon with the boiling red hot cannon ball and fires it towards the capital of USA.
..............actually he had his daughter, son and Rudy place the red hot cannon ball in the Trumpet cannon.......
As the cannonball is flying in air, its many multi-layered pieces explode into a thousand pieces of shrapnel.
......Oh say can you see, yeah I see there headed straight for us, says capital police slowly backing their way into the capital building.....
Pieces of the shrapnel hit capital police, --killing some--, breaking glass, penetrates doors and the gush of hot wind carry's computers and documents out of the openings of the capital building.
........later the shrapnel is retrieved by FBI and other responsible adult citizens......
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@3RU7AL
The core structure remains intact regardless of the circumstances.
Ok fine, until any individual chooses to step outside of those three and there may exist millions of scenarios where the individual will choose to do so.
1} humans will trample their own family to get to oxygen as core genetics kick in,
2} humans will trample others to save their family first,
3} humans will destroy others property to protect their own property?
The coherent trinary code may have moral and other cracks in it.
In the move the 'Titanic' it was women and children first, not self first fro men, tho we saw in movie some men trying to get into the lifeboats.
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