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@RationalMadman
..."Which end does the sphere sit on? How does one even begin to envision this?"...
The end of the abstract/conceptual tube --representative abstract arrow-of-time--- , that,
is closed off by the seemingly, abstract 0-dimensionall NOW, that,
is associated with the abstract, 2D plane of, an abstract, 3D sphere, or as,
my inferred entropic abstract complex /\/\/, more complex, 2D, slice-of-time plane as representative of NOW
Here as follows is a visual of an abstract tube-of-time that is always associated with an abstract, >>>>arrow-of-time>>> where we observe cause > effect and any resultants thereof.
...................................................>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Past >>>> arrow of time >>> NOW >>>>>>> arrow-of-time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Future
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However, Ive always liked an to have, in addition to the above, an alternate perception, that, may be more representative a less abstract process, ergo more dynamic change, wherein, the | is representative of our 2D NOW, slice-of-Observed Time { | }. In the following abstract, I see past, future and NOW, being more associative or related, even tho the former above >>arrow-of-time>> appears to be more representative of cause > effect and resultants thereof
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Past <<<<<<<<<<<< Outgoing ( * | * ) Incoming <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Future
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<2<
And as of this moment, I do not have a clear answer, as to why I intuit, the jagged 2D plane to be associated with entropy. I may have had a more intuitive in mind yesterday when I wrote this Unitary Abstracted Universe scneario, but if I did. I cannot recall it today and Ive not reread today, what I composed yesterday.
Hope that helps you M, to see where I'm been and may be head in future. :--)
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@zedvictor4
..."So what is the difference between life and death?....Simply in terms of what is present one second and gone in the next."...
Lack of oxygen to the vital cells, delivered by the heart.
..."I like this reference, but without the viri......But what renders such twilight organisms the power of life or life giving power.
if you dissected every molecule of the mass and thereby understood every living process, would you be able to tell me what actually gives the mass life?"...
Syntropic integrity over entropic decay.
Death is entropy overcoming of syntropy.
Syntropy is integral coming together.
Entropy is disintegration { coming apart }.
Love ( ) is integrative embracement { Gravity }
Hate is disintegrative )( { Dark Energy }
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@Intelligence_06
..."Prove this to be true. This is astrology type of ****. It is not falsifiable because it cannot be proven correct unless otherwise."..
See post #5. Chewbacka { alien } chewing on bubble-gum for the mind, and not any sincere, or significant, intelligent thought going on there.
Thank you for confirming what is obvious to most mature adults or even mature people under 18 years of age.
Lot of immaturity here at DArt. Thats what makes diversity so great. It takes all kind to populate a planet of 8 billion fresh water drinking humans
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..."Final note: take note, that the /\/\/\ complex hexagon is composed of 6 edges/lines. A 3D tetrahedron --minimal polyhedron of Universe-- also has 6 lines/edges also. There is a place in Synergetics that shows this deformation from 3D tet to 2D hex but I dont have access to my Synergetics books currently"...
Also take note, that, if we can correctly associate entropy with the 5-fold sine-wave pattern /\/\/\, then we may say that entropy may be cause of the sine-wave pattern. Let me explain how.
So this great-er circle contracts on one axis, and in so doing, extends as as a seemingly 1D line on the other axis. However, since there it is a complex hexagon ---or many many little peaks and valleys vvvvv---, then we may say, that at a big crunch, perhaps we have what looks like a linear line, but entropy { via time }keeps alive all of these little peaks and valleys and one or more --if not all of them--- fluctuate sometime after the crunch and the eternal expansion-contraction { crunch } of Universe continues.
Also, ---and this if very important to me--- because, in my original ( 12 years ago } Unified scenario for Universe, I have two 5-fold sphericals on each side of 4-fold, seemingly 1D line. So we go back to the beginning of this essay, and recall, that, I stated if it helps, then see the great-er circle on top of toilet paper tube as bisection of a sphere sitting on top of tube. Half of in the tube half out.
So, know that the 4-fold VE{ cubo-octahedron } will transform into its own, 4-fold, 2D complex sine-wave pattern, and,
into a seemingly flatten subpdivided triangle and,
into a seemingly simple triangle. See this LINK to begin to grasp some of the way the VE is so transformative, and again, it is because of its six square faces.
That all said, somewhere in this scenario above, --and not sure how--- I envision two sphericals on each side of or overlapping a common bilateral line. O|O i.e. a left and right-skew icosahedron with a flatten 4-fold cubo-octahedron sharing both of the icosa.
This latter may not work exactly with my Unitary Abstracted Scenario, ---that is more time and entropy associated representation--- because their two differrent topological approaches to visualizing Universe, geometrically. And one is more time and entropy oriented than the other, but I can see how 4-fold sine-wave the 5-fold sine-wave are both involved in some more complicated way.
It may be, that, both geometrical ways cannot be combined in one scenario. I dunno.
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Everyone loves to use a circle --a great circle is equilateral cross-sectionof a sphere--- to express this, that oranother, and in the following there is two kinds of sphere --and itscorresponding Euclidean polyhedron-- of primary consideration, the 5-foldicosa{20}hedron LINK and the 4-fold Vector Equilibrium { VE } aka thecubo{6}-octa{8}hedron LINK { see bottom of this essay }.
1} visualize a tube ex a cardboard toilet paper tube with acircle on each end, and one of these abstract circles is a 2D slice-of-timeergo a 2D slice of our Unitary Abstracted Universe. Please visualize a sphere sitting in one endof this abstract tube, if it helps you, altho, my primary consideration in thefollowing, is the 2D { area } slice-of-time circle,
2} in this above scenario, time is the 2D circle beingextended, as the 3D tube, and inside this great-er circle we have four other, smallercircles. Two of the inside circles represent points at each end of a diameterof the greater circle axis.
......2a} OO two of these inside abstract { Metaphyscial-1 } circles represent Gravityaka mass-attractive, Mother and Daugther, ergo a primary force of Universe,that, has not yet been quantized nor quantified ergo Metaphysical-3.
.......2b} OO the other two circles are orthogonal ---i.e.at 90 degrees too—the above mentioned Gravity circles. These two other insidecircles, are identified as Father and Son represent the Dark Energy and havenot yet been quantized nor quantified, ergo, Metaphysical-4,
3} there exists two kinds of area within the great circle, --and outside of the four, abovementioned, smaller circles--. One typeof area appears as being compressed, between the four smaller circles, ergo, weidentify these four areas as associative energy ergo, fermionic matter, --someof which, have been quantized and quantified by humans---,
4} the 2nd kind of area, is not between thesmaller circles, ergo, we identify these four separated areas as bosonicforces, that, some of which have been quantized and quantified by humans,
5} to represententropy, we start by conceptually cutting triangles out of the top edge ofour abstract, toliet paper tube i.e were making a jagged edge vvvvvvvv i.e. we’redeforming the great-er circle. In so doing we affect the great-er circles asextention of the time aspect, represented by the 3D tube.
…….note: I’m notactually familiar with any info regarding relationship between time and entropy, so you, kind reader, will haveto bear with me and see if any of this #5 idea above, makes sense, by the time Iget to the end of my scenario.
6} in the above #5, I introduced the concept of a jaggededge vvvv –ergo a great circle that is complex in 3D time tube, and not ajagged edge as only a 2D circle only---. So for simplicity sake, let us reduce the jagged edge to just six lines/\/\/\ i.e. a complex hexagon, instead of a flat 2D only, slice-of-time greatcircle.
…note: See LINK at bottom of this essay to better understandcomplex hexagon of the icosahedron
7} /\/\/\ = jagged edge = complex hexagon = complex,equilateral cross-section of the the icosa{20}hedron = entropy = Euclidean sine-wave pattern. Previously above, Imentioned the 4-fold, VE { cubo-octahedron/VE } and that polyhedron is definedby 4 regular equilateral, cross-section hexagons.
….note: thee 4-fold VE is systemic i.e. it is not stable structure, because of its 6 squarefaces it can transform into other shapes rather easily, whereas the icosahedronhas 20 triangular faces and that is a very stabilizing shape ergo most geodesicdomes are icosahedral derivatives.
8} conceptually, take the the smaller Mother and Daughtercircles and move them toward each other { contraction }, and they will begin tooverlap, and that great-er circle axis will shorten,
9) time dilation: as Gravitational Mother Daugther contract, the Dark Energy Father and Son’saxis becomes extended { pushed outward } i.e. the diameter of the great-ercircle is lengthened on this axis. AndI’m going out on a limb { tree branch } here, to associate this extenstion with time dilation,
….note: so I’m associating this contraction axis >expansion/extenstion axis to two separate things here in #9. 1} Dark Energy,which is the cosmically primary expansive force aka cosmological constant, and2} time dilation. Is this legal {valid } what I’m doing? ;--)
10} so now were going to introduce a few numerical valuesinto the mix ---oh God please no--. Yes,we give Gravitational axis a value of 1, and same for the Dark Energy diametricaxis. So as the Gravitational axis contracts towards zero ---never reachingzero---, the Dark Energy axis is moving towards doubling its axis value to 2–again never reaching that full value of 2—,
11} in #10 above, we appear to be contracting the 2D area ofthe great-er circle, into a seemingly 1D linear line. I say linear line and great-er circle,however, we need to not forget, that, we deformed the great-er circle into acomplex hexagon –that includes time--, ergo this seemingly linear line is alsocomplex i.e it looks like a complex line i.e a Euclidean sine-wave pattern/\/\/\, that, can also be associated with sine-wave pattern humans have foundto be associated with most fermionic particles as well as, bosonic electro-magnetic radiation { photons},
12} it just occurred to me, that, even tho the great-ercircle Gravitaional axis is contracting, and Dark Energy { time dilation? } is expanding, what happens to the compressed areabetween the smaller circles and the other area in the great-er circle, that isalso outside of the four smaller circles?
….note-1: for now, best I can do is to say, that, perhapsthose areas are somehow part of the greater-circle, first becoming of the areadefined by the d2D regular hexagon,before the idea of the deformation in time, as the more complex hexagon of anicosahedron and entropy ---via time as tube--- is introduced.
….note-2: those latter areas as bosons have been drawn inward as Gravity affects bosonsas well as fermions. So over all, the whole great-er deformed hexagonal area iscontracted on one axis, and extended on the other axis.
13} based on all of the above, I seem to be associating thefollowing;
/\/\/\ Sine-wave pattern with the complex, equilateralcross-section of an icosahedron, entropy{ via time tube }, fermions and bosons.
….note: since the 5-fold icosahedron, inherently involvesphi { 1.68 }, then somewhere in all of the above, I perhaps could introduce oneor more phi values
LINK to seeing complex equilateralcross-bisection of the 5-fold icosahedron
…note: to see the zig-zag jagged bisecting hexagon, start atop peak and follow black line between bluetriangle on top left and invisible white triangle center, now we zig and followblack line between purple triangle on left, and center invisible white triangle,next we zag and follow black line between green triangle on bottom left andpink triangle on bottom center. Continue this zig-zag around circumference oficosahedron.
LINK to seeing regular equilateral hexagons that define the 4-fold cubo-octahedron {VE }
Final note: take note, that the /\/\/\ complex hexagon iscomposed of 6 edges/lines. A 3Dtetrahedron --minimal polyhedron of Universe-- also has 6 lines/edges also.There is a place in Synergetics that shows this deformation from 3D tet to 2Dhex but I dont have access to my Synergetics books currently.
2nd final note :--): here is LINK to Roger Penroses Conformal Cyclic Universe where he uses a tube to represent eternal existence of Universe over time. It may or not help you with the above visualizaitons.
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@zedvictor4
..."What is life?"...
Biological life is composed of RNA and DNA. Twilight organisms of viri are between biological and mineral.
Life is a finite set of complex entities with woman being the most complex biological , entity of Universe that we know of. Man is close 2nd.
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Everyone loves to use a circle --a great circle is a equilateral cross-section of a sphere--- to express this, that or another, and in the following below, there is two kinds of sphere, and its corresponding Euclidean polyhedron of primary consideration, the 5-fold icosa{20}hedron LINK and the 4-fold Vector Equilibrium { VE } aka the cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron See LINKs at bottom of this essay.
A great polygon, as follows, is a Euclidean, equilateral cross-section of a polyhedron.
1} visualize as tube ex a cardboard toilet paper tube with an abstract circle on each end, and one of these abstract circles is a 2D slice-of-time ergo a 2D slice of our Unitary Abstracted Universe. Please visualize a sphere sitting in one end of this abstract tube, if it helps you, altho, my primary consideration in the following is, the 2D { area } slice-of-time circle,
2} in this above scenario, time is the circle being extended as the 3D tube, and inside this great-er circle we have four other smaller circles. Two of the inside circles represent points at each end of a diameter of the greater circle axis.
......2a} OO these two circles abstract { Metaphyscial-1 } representation of Gravity aka mass-attractive, Mother and Daugther, ergo a primary force of Universe, that, has not yet been quantized nor quantified ergo Metaphysical-3.
.......2b} OO the other two circles are orthogonal ---i.e. at 90 degrees too—the above mentioned Gravity circles. These two are identified as Father and Son represent the Dark Energy and have not yet been quantized nor quantified, ergo, Metaphysical-4,
3} there exists two kinds of area within the great circle, and outside of the four, above mentioned, smaller circles. One type of area appears as being compressed, between the four smaller circles, ergo, we identify these four areas as associative, fermionic matter, --some of which, has been quantized and quantified by humans---,
4} the 2nd kind of area, is not between the smaller circles, ergo, we identify these four separated areas as bosonic forces, that, some of which has been quantized and quantified by humans,
5} to represent entropy, we start by conceptually cutting triangles out of the top edge of our abstract, toliet paper tube i.e were making a jagged edge vvvvvvvv i.e. we’re deforming the great-er circle. In so doing we affect extend circle as the time aspect represented by the 3D tube.
…….note: I’m not actually familiar with any info regarding relationship between time and entropy, so you, kind reader, will have to bear with me and see if any of this #5 idea above, makes sense, by the time I get to the end of my scenario.
6} in the above #5, I introduced the concept of a jagged edge vvvv –ergo a great circle that is complex in time and not a jagged edge as only a 2D circle only---. So for simplicity sake, let us reduce the jagged edge to just six lines /\/\/\ i.e. a complex hexagon, instead of a flat 2D only, slice-of-time great circle.
7} /\/\/\ = jagged edge = complex hexagon = complex, equilateral cross-section of the the icosa{20}hedron = entropy = Euclidean sine-wave pattern Previously above, I mentioned the 4-fold, VE { cubo-octahedron/VE } and that polyhedron is defined by 4 regular equilateral, cross-section hexagons.
….note: thee 4-fold VE is systemic i.e. it is not stable structure, because of its 6 square faces it can transform into other shapes rather easily, whereas the icosahedron has 20 triangular faces and that is a very stabilizing shape ergo most geodesic domes are icosahedral derivatives.
8} conceptually, take the the smaller Mother and Daughter circles and move them toward each other { contraction }, and they will begin to overlap and that great-er circle axis will shorten,
9) time dilation: as Gravitational Mother Daugther contract, the Dark Energy Father and Son’s axis becomes extended i.e. the diameter of the great-er circle is lengthened on this axis. And I’m going out on a limb { tree branch } here, to associate this extenstion with time dilation,
….note: so I’m associating this contraction axis > expansion/extention axis to two separate things here in #9. 1} Dark Energy, which is the cosmically primary expansive force aka cosmological constant, and 2} time dilation. Is this legal what I’m doing? ;--)
10} so now were going to introduce a few numerical values into the mix ---oh God please no--. Yes, we give Gravitational axis a value of 1, and same for the Dark Energy diametric axis. So as the Gravitational axis contracts towards zero ---never reaching zero---, the Dark Energy axis is moving towards doubling its axis value to 2 –again neve reaching that value—,
11} in #10 above, we appear to be contracting the 2D area of the great-er circle, into a seemingly 1D linear line. I say linear line and great-er circle, however, we need to not forget, that, we deformed the great-er circle into a complex hexagon, ergo this seemingly linear line is also complex i.e it looks line a Euclidean sine-wave pattern /\/\/\, that, can also be associated with sine-wave pattern humans have found to be associated with most fermionic particles as well as, fermionic electro-magnetic radiation { photons },
12} it just occurred to me, that, even tho the great-er circle Gravitaional axis is contracting, and Dark Energy { time dilation? } is expanding, what happends to the compressed area between the smaller circles and the other area in the great-er circle, that is also outside of the four smaller circles?
….note-1: for now, best I can do is to say, that, perhaps they are somehow part of the greater-circle, first deforming to a 2D regular hexagon, before the idea of the more complex hexagon of the icosahedron and entropy ---via time as tube--- is introduced.
….note-2: those latter areas as bosons have been drawn inward as Gravity affects bosons as well as fermions.
13} based on all of the above, I seem to be associating the following;
/\/\/\ Sine-wave pattern with the complex, equilateral cross-section of an icosahedron, entropy { via time tube }, fermions and bosons.
….note: since the 5-fold icosahedron, inherently involves phi { 1.68 }, then somewhere in all of the above, I perhaps could introduce one or more phi values
LINK to seeing complex equilateral cross-bisection of the 5-fold icosahedron
…note: to see the zig-zag jagged bisecting hexagon, start a top peak and follow black line between blue triangle on top left and invisible white triangle center, now we zig and follow black line between purple triangle on left, and center invisible white triangle, next we zag and follow black line between green triangle on bottom left and pink triangle on bottom center. Continue this zig-zag around circumference of icosahedron.
LINK to seeing regular equilateral hexagons that define the 4-fold cubo-octahedron { VE }
Final note: take note, that the /\/\/\ complex hexagon is composed of 6 edges/lines. A 3D tetrahedron --minimal polyhedron of Universe also has 6 lines/edges also. There is a place in Synergetics that shows this deformation from 3D tet to 2D hex but I dont have access to my Synergetics books currently.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
..."8,675,309^3.1415>58%°V=( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Prove this equation wrong. You can't."..
I agree Chewbacka, and dont really have the time for more bubble-gum mind games.
Go read the links and try to exhibit some intelligence for the non-bubble-gum humans.
And remmber Pi-Time is intimately related to a circle. Everybody loves to use a circle or right-triangle to prove in one way or another
At bottom of the above linked to page, the first link black hole chirp and LIGO is also very interesting.
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..."Clearly the icosahedral nature of of the naturally propagating helix fields influenced the development of the RNA strands in question at sub-qualitative levels."...
More like sub-humans and sub-bacteria levels for sure. These viri are a devil in the details.
...."Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) is the third human coronavirus known to co-opt the peptidase angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) for cell entry (1).
....The interaction between SARS-CoV-2 and ACE2 is critical to determining both tissue tropism and progression from early SARS-CoV-2 infection to severe coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
....Understanding the cellular basis of SARS-CoV-2 infection could reveal treatments that prevent the development of severe disease, and thus reduce mortality.
Old Feb 22-2020 LINK understanding the serpentine genetic inside the protien membrane :--O
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...."But here is where Covid gets scary. Children might want to leave the room now.
.....SARS-CoV-2, alone among known viruses, blocks the neighborhood watchtower gene while at the same time overstimulating the call for reinforcements. Once it hacks the genome of its first cell, it makes a protein that blocks that cell from warning its neighbors. It fells the watchtower. There are no limits to replication for at least the first few days. When cytokines do arrive, they come in such panic numbers that they produce a storm of inflammation at the infection site. That induces a runaway cell destruction that kills the patient.
...Think of it as similar to an asymmetric warfare tactic used in Baghdad or Kabul. A small device detonates in a busy market, killing and injuring many civilians. First responders and police rush to the scene and then a larger device detonates.
New Normals
Writing for the online journal MedPage on July 27, Dr. Fred Pelzman, a recovering Covid patient himself, said:
Many patients who suffered severe pneumonia are still in the recovery phase, with prolonged fatigue and ongoing dyspnea. They tell us they are still “not themselves,” and have a sense of constriction and pulling to their breath. More than likely, as symptoms persist, we will start to evaluate these patients further, with repeat chest imaging and pulmonary function tests.
We may as yet discover what kind of lung disease this is, this residual damage, and whether it responds to medications for asthma or COPD or maybe something else. Or maybe just gradually resolves. Or maybe leaves some people with chronic damage and deficits.
I’ve seen a few patients who have residual loss of their sense of taste or smell. For me, while for a few weeks there I could barely smell or taste anything, now 4 months out I’ve noticed that some of my favorite foods just don’t taste the same, that many foods have lost the depth of flavor I’m used to tasting, and that certain smells, from my aftershave to my morning cup of coffee, are even bordering on the newly unpleasant.
I’ve had patients tell me their OCD has ratcheted up, their anxiety medicines are not working, they find themselves crying all the time without any other symptoms of depression. One patient told me that she’d noticed that she could no longer do math in her head. Something as simple as calculating the tip at a restaurant, which used to be incredibly easy for her, now was something she had to slowly and methodically work out.
Another interesting type of clinical presentation that I and a few colleagues have seen, although we’re not sure if this is a definitive syndrome or not, has been patients, several months out from recovery from their Covid-19, calling up with a panic that they now feel the exact same symptoms they had when they became sick initially. We’ve seen a few patients who’ve had the exact same clinical presentation as before, feeling feverish, diffuse body aches, cough, even a few patients who feel they’ve noticed a change in their sense of taste or smell.
As we evaluated them, we feared that we were seeing that thing we all dread so much, the definitive evidence that patients can get this disease twice. Luckily, all of the repeat swabs on these few cases we’ve seen have come back negative, and interestingly, once the swab results came back, the symptoms rapidly abated in most of these patients. Is this some form of post-traumatic stress response, or some underlying residual inflammatory process that may get reawakened, or reactivated as antibody levels drop off?
Virologists cannot yet say that CoV-2 antigen immunity, once established, persists, which is to say we don’t yet know if you can get Covid a second time, or a third; whether it is worse the next time; whether blood-derived vaccines would work in that case; or therefore, whether there is even the possibility of “herd immunity” or vaccination.
A survey of the Spanish population published July 6 in The Lancet found that 95% were seronegative to SARS-CoV-2 infection (had no antibodies), even in hotspot areas, despite many of the same individuals having tested positive before. It found that 14% of persons who had previously developed antibodies no longer had them a month later. Ian Jones, a professor of virology at the University of Reading, said, “Anyone who tests positive by antibody test should not assume they are protected. They may be, but it is not clear.”
....Since no-one, not even the Chinese, can answer these questions about immunity yet, the only thing that can be said for sure is that Covid will be around for a while. This is not a second wave. It is not even the second inning of the first wave. This will not be going away by September. It will not likely be gone by the September after that. Covid could be something more like the Black Plague that showed up in 1346 and ended in 1353 after killing 30% to 60% of Europe’s population of the time. Or maybe it will be like the San Francisco plague of 1900–1904, which was followed by an aftershock in 1907–1908. Worst case: it is with us for the rest of the century, as Bubonic Plague was for the Ottoman Empire for the whole of the 18th Century.
...If outliers like the USA, Russia, and Brazil were to join the consensus shared by Nordic, Asian and Oceanic nations and take common-sense public health measures, even they could have Covid under control enough to resume much of the old normal in 6 to 8 weeks.
.....That’s a moot point, though, because the United States will not begin behaving rationally any time soon. Next week we’ll look more at the implications."....
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@Discipulus_Didicit
..."10 km bulge for a 1.4 million km diameter is actually pretty impressive."...
You know how men are. Mr Sol trying to stay fit and trim for Mrs Sol., to impress her.
On light-er note, ..."These viruses appear spherical in shape, but a closer look actually reveals they are icosahedral."...
As are most geodesic domes are based upon also.
..."These virus structures ---complex--- have a combination of icosahedral and helical shape and may have a complex outer wall or head-tail morphology.".... LINK
There is a coild RNA or DNA serpent inside this viral LINK, never both, and that is partially why viri are identified as twilight organisms, being niether alive nor dead"...
Ok so I guess that was on a darker note.
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H,mm I wonder if that is true for an ellipse? Ellipse is just the contraction inward { squeezing } of one diameter and the expansion { extending } of the other diameter. Eventually this means the circle becomes a seemingly 1D line. I imagine mathematically this just means the extended diameter becomes twice as long, since the contracted diameter goes to zero { 0 }.
I dunno about clocks, speed and time dilation but I suppose that those two could some how be applied to this above process and the resultant, linear 1D line Ive just conceptualized. I dunno. I'm small on mathematical formula and big on imagination. ;--))
1} Space need not much defining i.e. either a space is defined by a finite occupied space volume or its non-occupied and has no volume,
2} Time;
.....2a} Observed Time ex fermions, bosons, Earth humans dogs etc and is a constant dynamic that humans have quantised and/quantified,
.....2b} abstract time as a Metaphysical-1 construct associated with constructs of seconds, hours or whatever. Oh yeah
.....2c} abstract, absolute cosmic time aka Pi-Time 66.4 which is based on a constant ratio ---3.14-- of diameter to circumference.
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Two primary stages of independent individual life and thesubstages vary depending on genetics, nutrition and culture;
1} prepubescent,
.....1a} all inherent genetic ego,
......1b} progresses to consideration of others who alsohave an i identity, ergo cooperative team work and potential recognition ofsynergetic resultants thereof, or me against the world digression,
2} post-pubescent,
....2a} seeing, feeling plus opinions on hormones, ergo I ama man or a woman ready to take on the world,
....2a} seeing, feeling plus opinions on hormones, ergo I ama man or a woman ready to take on the world,
......2b} mimicking others still but brain and other cellshave for most part finnished their development by age 25,
.......2c} 31 is average prime time mentally and physically,i.e. it may not get any better than than this,
.........2d} 40+ is over the hill physically and most dontrealize what is comming,
..........2e} 50+ and mortality makes its appearance,
............2f} 60+, h,mm wonder if I will make it to 70,
..............2g} average death of USA male is 78, so lastspurt of desperation to get whatever we wanted to accomplish, accomplished,
................2f} 80+ wholey mackerel, I'm still here,lets live a little,
..................2h} 90+, ha, wise and thats about all Igot going for me,
....................2i} 100+, alright this is gettingridiculous, who ordered this?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
..."The man was able to pull off such a feat due to his mastery of Pi-Time. 8,675,309^3.1415>58%°V=( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)"...
Sure, why not. When all else fails to explain the extraordinary phenomena call on Pi-Time to save the day Ha Ha! :--)))
I'm following some interesting time dialation disscusson on another forum, and if your interested in distorted 2D area to visually explain time dialation easily, then I recommend starting with these two links at Quora, tho they are do not have the two visuals I am thinkining of but very much related.
And remmber Pi-Time is intimately related to a circle. Everybody loves to use a circle or right-triangle to prove in one way or another
At bottom of the above linked to page, the first link black hole chirp and LIGO is also very interesting.
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@sadolite
What I believe to be the truth. A few ignorant ones, have accused me of making false statements on rare occasions.
In Fullers 1969 book 'Utopia or Oblivion" --a collection of essay or talks he gave--- he states that if all governments cease to exist, humanity would carry on just fine with out them. Here's the rub, the beginnings of government would shortly follow after word, since humans want order in their lives.
That desire for order comes from a morality base. Fairness, justice, liberty/freedom etc.
I know many relative truths and a few absolute truths. Truth is a double-edged sword and can do good or bad, depending on which side of the fence our perspective is coming from.
Fuller stated that some of the earliest money was probably the moon shaped metal { bronze? } found in some ancient ship wrecks of the Minoan culture. The moon shape actually being associated more with bull horns, as they worship the bull and gold. Barter cows and sheep in ships was a heavy messy burden, whereas metal was less of a burden and people needed metal of tools and weapons.
.."What you "believe" ? That was a fast exit from "the truth" The only truth I know is what I don't like and do like. I wouldn't put much faith on anything outside of that. But that's just me. I've heard nine versions of everything on every subject. As far as what I believe about any kind of govt or fiscal policy not working, pretty much the same for all, a complete and total failure to enforce the rule of law and a total failure to severely punish those who break the law."
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@sadolite
I post what I believe, on the best knowledge I have. Swear ones eyes is stupid, irrespective of topic.
You sound like some religious fundamentalist type with that kind of talk.
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@DynamicSquid
Economics is irrelevant. Financial value of this or that blows in the wind from nation, to nation, to nation, over time
Standard-of-living is relevant. Real wealth is health, ergo clean air, clean fresh water, clean land and clean oceans from which humans entertain their survival within some sort of shelter from heat, cold and other.
I’m a Greens-bean, I’m an Eco-nut,
Living in a forest, In a shell called hut.
Living in a forest, In a shell called hut.
and,
It’s a planet, That needs a rebirth,
Come on people, Lets think about the Earth
Come on people, Lets think about the Earth
because,
Ecology, Is not just a word,
It’s the way of life, Or had you heard.
It’s the way of life, Or had you heard.
Recall the golden rule,
Those who own the gold { resources }, make the rules.
Let us take 8 billion people and divide that by any numerical value, ex $15.00 per hour.
= 533,333,333 . 33333333333333333333333
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@sadolite
..."Yes the "truth" There is no such thing anymore."...
False. Economics having nothing to do with real wealth. Economimcs is game of cards ---cash--- for the powerful to divide and exploit Earth irreplaceable resources.
Without the powerful being considerate of Universal standard of living, ---and how that plays out for Earths resources--- humanity will not see any signifcant change in any projections of their long term survival on Earth.
Plenty of truth exists, but they remain hidden so irrelevant to most humanity.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
..."tbh I forgot the UN even existed......I don't have much confidence."...
And this attitude only leads to the demise of humanity.
One-world-nation or humanity ends on Earth. 500 - to 1000 years is my intuitive/speculative guesstimate.
Will it be a slow death from many various forms of pollution, that will be spurred on even faster by erratic climate change aka Global Warming and Greenhouse effect,
or will it be somewhat quicker annihilation by nuclear detonation of hydrogen bombs, spurred on by smaller nuclear arms accidents or intentional acts of desperation from the likes of N. Korea, Pakistan, India, France orange-bad-man and orange-bad-associates?
I dont have much confidence in humanity using mind of brain/brawn when it comes to survival of our species.
Empathy over greed, etc. :--(
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
............."How far is anyone willing to push the issue?"....
I dunno but it appears to me, that, any pushing of China powerhouse is a temporary policy ploy, for a hopeful, and only temporary, political gain.
Lets see if UN does anything with the over fishing issue in Korea waters and whether it is truly a long term fixing move.
...."The Yellow River—northern China’s main river—has dried up every year since 1985.35 With aquifers and rivers suffering from overuse, lakes are also being affected. Hebei has already lost 969 of its 1,052 lakes.36 Yet with all of northern China’s water resources being tapped, water shortages still cost the Chinese economy a lot of money. According to one report, water shortages are responsible for direct economic losses of $35 billion annually, about 2.5 times the average annual losses due to floods.37
...Besides the disparity in water supply between the north and south, China’s water crisis has a second factor: pollution. Even in water-rich areas of China, pollution is decreasing the supply of clean, usable water.
...According to estimates, a full 70 percent of China’s rivers and lakes are currently contaminated, half of China’s cities have groundwater that is significantly polluted, and one-third of China’s landmass is affected by acid rain.38,39,40 Today, most of the Yellow River is unfit even for swimming, and experts have called the Yangtze “cancerous.”41"....
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..."The sun is the most perfectly round natural object known in the universe, say scientists who have conducted precise measurements of its dimensions."...
..Most spherical Human mad object based on Avogardo's constant
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@Greyparrot
“I agree with 80% of what he does; I just can’t stand a liar, ”Tosh, 70, said of Trump. LINK
Orange-parrot dispises TN pig farmer and calls on orange-bad-man hero to create immoral windy weather for those with moral integrity.
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@Greyparrot
Putin, China and anyone else with no moral integrity use Trumpet to meddle i.e. orange-parrot has it backwards.
Those with no morals will spin the wind in any direction backwards, forward, left or right, to achieve their goals.
The only thing you have correct, is that Trumpet is a puppet and that is true of most presidents, ---old news-- who are beholden to the interests of the USA peoples and the economy { corporate }. The new news is the TN pig farmer and his republican friends, who want to oust the narccistic, bigoted and most lying ever mafia boss ---president in name only-- from office.
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@Varrack
And none of the Licthcmans following are based on moral integrity, ergo, humanity is not primarily based on moral integrity when it comes to politics i.e. they can be swayed in the wind at last moment ---as happened to Hillary by Putin social shenangans----.
..."Those would be "Key 5, the short-term economy — many economists are predicting that we're going to slide into a recession, or may already be in a recession —
.... and Key 8, the social unrest key.
.....And it makes Key 10, foreign policy or military failure, even more shaky than before." Lichtman earlier suggested that relations with North Korea and the unstable situation in the Middle East could endanger Key 10 for Trump.
....If any two of those three keys turn against Trump, he is a predicted failure," Lichtman said. "If zero or one turn against him, he is a predicted winner. I obviously haven't made a final call yet, since we don't know how this crisis will ultimately be resolved or not resolved in the upcoming months."....
So basically, humans see no morals in politics ergo they have little morals when it comes to politics. There are some exceptions and I posted on in another thread regarding TN pig farmer who agrees with 80% of Trumpets polices but cannot stand the lies, bigotry and narrcisistic ego. Here is the LINK to this man who has placed his morals ahead of political nonsense.
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@Crocodile
The pee test does not apply to farts { methane gas }.
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@Intelligence_06
...."Ive done a lot of my own car/truck repair ---not all--- and always do my own oil changes."...
Adjustment to #16 and #19,. Couple of weeks ago, I took my 93 Ford Ranger in for tune-up, as I was still feeling overworked with many issues after finnishing rabbit wire fence over RV roof. Ex cleaning gutters on house { more ladder work }, installing window AC unit in wifes office, weed eating neighbor long driveway, loading and hauling two loads of trash to dump.
And all of these above were done in addition to my regular job, but on my days off from regular job.
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@Greyparrot
..."I love the drive-thru charade. Every employee with gloves, masks, glass shields...."
The only joke is your ego, as all the former are neccessary and the latter proven to lessen the chances of spread and infection.
The largest ego in USA is orange-bad-man. The 2nd largest egos are orange-bad-followers. I say, give them all orange cover alls, and the real political charade in USA is then over.
I saw TN pig farmer on news yesterday. He makes millions and stated that, ..'he is lifelong republican and agrees with 80% of Trumpets policies, but cannot stand the ego, the lies and the bigotry and for these reasons he is voting for Biden, and he and other republicans are putting their money together against DonTrumpet.
Orange-bad-parrot is the real 'joker' { sic-n-head } in USA, as are many of the orange-bad-racists.
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@sadolite
..."All will eventually be exposed and they will die or they wont."...
If when they are exposed, they have had an appropriate anti-body or vaccine, the chance of anyone dying is significantly decreased.
And even if the anti-body or vaccine it is not the specific one for covid19, it may reduce symptoms.
Laws due process mattern but laws and due process change and can vary all over the world and in all of those cases, what is just as important, ---and you seem to lack--- is rational, logical common sense regarding covid19 exposure before such anti-body and vaccines are available.
Again, your ego is the problem here, as it is with the orange-bad-man and his orange-bad-followers whose religion is live free with no mask or die trying. Ego based silliness.
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@PressF4Respect
Metaphysical-1{ non-space }, metaphysical-2 { non-occupied SPACE }, Universe { Occupied SPACE }
3D = Volumetric Space
2D = Area Space
1D = Linear quasi-Space
0D = a Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept only e.x a singularity
Outer Space:
...1} beyond Earths atmosphere,
..2} beyond the finite, occupied space Universe ergo macro-infinite non-occupied Space.
Medio-space:
1} space thats most relevant to humanity and the ecological environement that sustains them,
2} sine-wave /\/\/\/\/ patterning reality inside the toroidal tube associated numerical with 0,3,6,9,12,15,18 etc
Inner Space:
....1} inside the Earth,
.....2} ultra-micro Gravity ( ) that, exists on the outer surface of a torus,
.......3} ultra-micro Dark Energy )( , that also exists on the outer surface of same torus, but isalso on the inner curved surface of same torus.
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Our God, Who Art in Singularity
....Ebuc8.....
Gravitee, smiles with glee,
For God attracts, immortality.
I dont want to cry, I dont want to die,
I want live, for eternity.
Round about, we may scream and shout,
Twist my words, to funnel your doubt.
God is here, God is there,
God twists the cells, in my hair.
So I have gone, to the beauty salon,
To remove this God, to a long by gone.
Bye-bye God, hello creation,
Imagine a humanity, as one nation.
Now I lay me down to sleep,
And here I wait, for the AM beep.
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@zedvictor4
Zed....'.#3....Missed this pearl of wisdom.....It's what I have been continuously suggesting and referring to as a GOD principle.'..
Principles are abstract, Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, ergo not an occupied space.
Black holes are an occupied space. Singularities are Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts not an occupied space.
So a visit with truth, ---for those who actually concerned with finding truth--- ;
Singularity = Metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept and may or may not be related to any principle associated with with cosmic physical laws.
3D - Volumetric
2D = area metric
1D = linear metric
Singularity = Metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/conceptual bubble gum for the mind.
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8 Billion People Need Food { Fish? >< Squid }
...."But an NBC News investigation, based on new satellite data, has revealed what marine researchers now say is a more likely explanation: China is sending a previously invisible armada of industrial boats to illegally fish in North Korean waters, violently displacing smaller North Korean boats and spearheading a decline in once-abundant squid stocks of more than 70 percent"...
....“This is the largest known case of illegal fishing perpetrated by a single industrial fleet operating in another nation’s waters,” said Jaeyoon Park, a data scientist from Global Fishing Watch, a global ocean conservation nonprofit group co-founded by Google, based in Washington. The group specializes in artificial intelligence and satellites that, along with an international team of academic researchers, discovered the Chinese fleet."....
..."OFF THE COAST OF SOUTH KOREA — The battered wooden “ghost boats” drift through the Sea of Japan for months, their only cargo the corpses of starved North Korean fishermen whose bodies have been reduced to skeletons. Last year more than 150 of these macabre vessels washed ashore in Japan, and there have been more than 500 in the past five years."...
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@RationalMadman
RM see message #16 for my fitness. Since I remmber those Geritol commercials from 60's others have and idea of my not being a spring chicken.
I listed jobs that required most physical effort from me, but there were a few factory jobs that were not easy, and two of them involved lots of heat.
My finger would get burned a little regularly from hole-punching, glowing hot plow-share blades.
Another food job was working with large hot tubs of stuff and heavy pans of stuff I would have to flip and cut. I probably could not do that latter job today because of rotor cuffs going bad. I can lift arms above head, but very limited in left arm lifting anything beyond 5 pounds above shoulder height without pain kicking in. I would get terrible heat rashes on my chest from that job.
Ive done a lot of my own car/truck repair ---not all--- and always do my own oil changes. Took truck to quick lube place once, and they reverse two of my vacumn hoses and truck sputtered. So they send me down road to their mechanic, and he pulls out his pocket knife and starting poking around wiring.
I said forget this, and went home and spent an hour tracing the vacum hose diagram to find the two reverse hoses. Never again will I go to a quick lube place.
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@Intelligence_06
I have a good physic, that, has allowed me to have been a cattle rancher, truck farmer, oil/gas rig rough neck, logger, contruction, roofing, plumbing electrical and many other jobs not listed.
Same job last 5.5 years, and while doing regular job, I alos recently bought used { $2000.00 } RV to live in an have had to install a whole set of associated home systems ---ex sewer line, digging trench for water line etc--- and cleaning roof to apply 3 coatings of elasto-meric and flex-seal .
But the real kicker, is that, since this RV is under a few large trees, and branches of all sizes do fall, I spent $500 in treated lumber to frame a minimal structure with rabbit wire fencing over the roof, to protect the EPDM membrane and the cheapo lightweight decking they use.
Actually, I had 8 days of vacation coming, and because of covid19, those plans changed, so I spent most of those 8 days building this framed rabbite fence roof protection, by myself. Yes that means a lot of ladder work.
I have to say, my last blood test said I had low red blood cell count and low platelets and other low related to blood, so iron poor blood --take Geritol, a early 60's commercial--- and I was actually amazed at how little I ate and how much I worked without and hurting myself. I did have to put on my left knee support the last couple of days.
Once the job was done, yes, I was burnt out, but next day went back to work. So yes, I would say that I'm in good shape, for the shape I'm in. :--))
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Wow, that was amazingly good stuff RM. What did we learn about RM, if that is truly him?
1} fingers with close cut nails, .........,
2} talented musically with this machine, i.e. he can keep a beat and do rythym section also?,
3} he has hair on his wrists,
4} he is under 30{?},
5} he wears glasses,
6} physically fit enough to dance{?} to the funky music...even if he can only dance from the waist higher and mentally.
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@zedvictor4
..."when viewed from the next aeon these glowing black holes – Hawking Points – will be amongst the largest continuous energy sources in the CMB night sky. The reason we do not see these points without computer analysis is they are very faint and the early universe has scattered them over a large area. What once was a point is now a disk around five times the diameter of our moon.
....Careful analysis of the night sky has found around 30 of these points in the cosmic microwave background map. Five of these points coincide with previously discovered concentric circles in the CMB sky. Interestingly one of the points coincides with the observation window of the BICEP 2 observatory opening up the ability to examine coincidences with the magnetic field patterns which CCC would also predict at Hawking Points."...
Aeons are R Penroses name for time periods after and before the next WOW! { Bucky Fuller } --ak Big Bang { Fred Hoyle }--- and the next WOW!.
So in the last two posts we have two potential ways to know something about existence of Universe, before a specified time called BB or WOW!
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@3RU7AL
3BR, While true there does appear to be a limit to, to what we can know beyond a specified time of our Universe's existence, there is a new technology; LINK
...."Using the skewness of the probability distribution (or more precisely, the so-called three-point function) as a measure of non-Gaussianity, they found that while gravitational waves produced by vacuum fluctuations only have a skewness of few times their variance squared (see Fig. 2), those sourced by gauge fields can have a skewness almost a million times their variance squared.
....This can be easily observed in upcoming CMB missions such as Japan’s LiteBIRD, which greatly improves upon the sensitivities of WMAP and Planck, and in which MPA scientists are also heavily involved.
.....If we find that the observed primordial gravitational waves are indeed highly non-Gaussian, their skewness can be used to measure the energy density fraction of gauge fields during inflation, allowing us to probe the constituents of our Universe when it was less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth (10-36) of a second old.
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LINK...."LiteBIRD is in the most advanced phase among such future satellites, targeting its launch in Japanese Fiscal Year 2027 (2027FY) with JAXA’s H3 rocket. It will accommodate more than 4000 TESs in focal planes of reflective low-frequency and refractive medium-and-high-frequency telescopes in order to detect a signature imprinted on the CMB by the primordial gravitational waves predicted in cosmic inflation. The total wide frequency coverage between 34 and 448 GHz enables us to extract such weak spiral polarization patterns through the precise subtraction of our Galaxy’s foreground emission by using spectral differences among CMB and foreground signals."......
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..."The latest world population projections indicate that world population will reach 10 billion persons in the year 2057."... LINK
7,794,798,739 Current Earth hum an population, minus ,7,380,599,040 = 414,199,699 and that value is the differrence between Pi-Time mass /energy resultant and current population of humans on Earth.
7,379,797,139 is the 2015 population on Earth via the above LINK and is the closet value to my Pi-Time mass/energy value { 7,380,599,040 }
Below is the absolute Pi-Time values and process I used to compare to current and past populations of humans on Earth.
1} 66.4 { Pi-Time } * 3 = 199.2 {mass/energy }
2} 199.2^2 { 2nd powering } = 39680.64 ......2nd powering is process used in speed-of-electro-magnetic radiation as mass calculations.
3} 39680.64 * 186000 { speed-of-radiation } = 7,380,599,040 is total energy output or potential for output, via, Pi-Time as mass/energy.
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@RationalMadman
RM...."The best possible society 100% should have defined politics that acts in favour of morality."..
Well stated RM. However I would add that morality = religion= spirituality i.e. in empathetic consideration of the health and well being of each individual, and the whole of humanity.
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Here's the thing, you know you most likely speaking truth, when the responders do not address your comments as stated. Ive seen this 100's of times with what I post.
Their ego is in fear of truth and that is most often why the do not address my or others comments as presented.
And the certainly never ever respond with any shred of rational, logical common sense, much less a valid truth, that is in any of any significant relevance.
Ergo, we have a fair amount of immature egos floating around SF, that, are far from having developed a data base intellectual integrity, and, maybe even less of a data base of moral integrity.
Vote bad-orange-man TODAY, before another black person gets into presidendtial office and definitely before any damn strong woman with intellectual and moral integrity gets into the presidents office. It stupidity like trump and his butt sniffers, that make me think the Biblical fire and brimstone apocalypse---Pencil-head-Pence--- is more likely than ever since the late 80's.
Geroge Carlin must be turning over in his grave wanting to get out and protest against stupidity and immorality.
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ET-thang..."Real people die from abortions because of morons like you."..
Its not a question of "real" and most of you pro-lifers have a mental deficit in you inability to make the distinction between;
1} fetus/baby organism of the mother, and
2} independent { breathing on its own aka viable and cord is severed } individual human.
1 and 2 are both "real" biological life, and again, that is not in question by most rational, logical common sense people.
The question is whether it is virtual rape of you and others to repeatedly stick your nose inside a pregnant womans bodily business without her consent to force her continuance for 9 months of something she does not want to do, nor be responsible for the ending results thereof, which can be many.
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@zedvictor4
..."I would suggest that a virtual simulation is a current and possible event, irrespective of the content."...
I have no idea what your going on about Zed
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@ethang5
.....ET..."Nothing about homosexuality. I did not ask what +proFAMILY was, I asked if homosexuality was compatible with the "policy of + proFAMILY" that you want us to "insist" on. Is it?"...
It is a mind-game generalization on your part i.e. non-specific for a specific and your narrow viewpoint can broaden to acceptive of specific circumstances of each every homo-sapien.
Family = familia = people who we are familiar with. The whole of humanit/homo-sapiens are all within 50th cousins, yet most are not familiar/famlia/family.
ET-ang is like this drunkard stupor who gets fixated on this one generality { The Forest } and he cant see any trees and all of the trees on the planet are either pro-family or their not. ET needs to get grounded in reality, that, most homo-sapiens practice, and leave his narrow-head space in the gutter, where it belongs.
Gutter mind = ??
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
.."how your ego controls you but you can't see it. you don't understand freedom either it seems, freedom must also include the right to make bad or unpopular choices...
Who isnt controled by their ego? I dont mind anyone's ego controling them ---including myself--- as long as it follows truth and smarts.
You have dont appear to have learned either of these. Yes, all humans have the right to remain ignorant and dumb if they so choose. Who do so?
Cause their ego is being problematic, is one reason. You dont appear to grasp the simple.
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..."it's funny you say it's not about being aggressive and yet your words show otherwise, look in the mirror more."..
I stated "being smart is not aggressive". You and others are being aggressively dumb. Go figure, and you will come to same conclusion in those regards, unless your ego is creating mental blockages to truth. Aka denial of truth
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
..."I never wanted strangers close to me, so social distancing I'm all for and was long before covid 19 lol ...
Social distancing is about friends and "strangers". Please wear the mask, practice social distancing with all humans, and stop sniffing orange-bad-mans butt.
Being smart is not aggressive. You might want to try being smart, in regards to covid19. Simple not diffcult to grasp. Unless you head is so far inside someones else butt you cannot see the light of intelligence.
Where I work I was first person to make a homemade mask weeks before it was being considered by others at my work place.
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.."just because a person is infected (asymptomatic) it doesn't mean they are shedding enough of the virus that the viral load is sufficient to cause another person to become sick."..
Doesnt mean they arent. Get real dude. Wear the mask, social distancing etc and stop following idiot orange-bad man and his side kick orange-parrot.
Finally we the orange-bad-man is beginnging to wear a mask in public, long after Ford motor company recommended he do so when touring their factory where every body else does.
God we need the people to get smart in USA and dump Don Trumpet in the nearest toilet where he crawled out of. This is a minimal brainer.
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..if you are sick, any kind of symptom, yes."...
Dont yo mean 'infected'? You may not know that your infected, ergo, wear the mask irrespective of what you may not know.
Its real simple, people need to be responsible citiens and wear the masks, social distancing and stop sniffing orange bad-mans butt and his side kick orange-parrot cause idiots following idiots is idiotic.
Being smart is being responsible. Being dumb is being irresponsiible.
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