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@Dynasty
The keystone or touchstone of biologic life is the information loop/circle. Interdependent feedback systems.
Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy )( eternally provide the primary 2D information loop between positive and negative shaped geodesic space when considered as a spirally defined torus.
1) half of this loop is the outer, positive geodesic trajectory of a graviton/darkion that, has a spiral trajectory towards,
2} the inner, negative shaped Dark Energy surface side of a torus, ---that is being defined over time---,
3} and its trajectory as graviton/darkion then spirals on a geodesic curvature back as a darkion/graviton, and,
4} in addition to the spiral trajectory we have another primary trajectory that takes place and this gives the seeming effect of 3D ie gives body to a 2D only surface torus. This is the process of inversion-outversion and peak of positive and negative curvature.
This latter process can be seen as being similar to inversion of the fertilized egg in gastruation phase of biology
...."As the first postulate, let us assume that, at the fundamental level, the energy/matter comprising the Universe is far from equilibrium,
that it exists as an evolving flow, and that the energy/matter comprising and flowing through the Universe spontaneously self-organizes on multiple spatiotemporal scales into metastable, interconverting flow/circulation patterns (organizational forms).
These forms are manifested at the corresponding levels of the organizational hierarchy as elementary particles, atoms, molecules, cells, organisms, ecosystems (including human organizations and economies), planetary and stellar systems, galaxies, and so forth."...
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@Dynasty
Agreed, however, simple-to-complex evolution is more frustrating than complex-to-simple evolution.
Bacteria evolve and I'm not sure whether it is known if such evolution is;
1} simple >> complex,
2} complex >> simple,
3} lateral i.e. neither of the above.
The coding for biologic life --- and all other physical reality phenomena--- may reside as geodesic Gravitational ( ) and Dark Energy )( coding within one, or more black hole phenomena. Our seeming, 3D physical reality, being a side-effect resultant of the latter two above.
..."we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D"...Jacob Bekenstein....confirmed by S. Hawking.....most eloquently presented by Leonard Susskind.
1st law of thermodynamics holds true for all occupied space phenomena and black holes are and occupied space phenomena.
The truth exists for those who seek it. Few seek it and even fewer acknowledge truth when presented with it.
..."what we have is, interfering and non-interfering patterns ....{ 2D? }....operating in pure principle" .......Bucky Fuller
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@Vader
Insane lading the children around by their balls. Your clueless as is most of the republicans of USA.I have President Trump's assurance that "All is Well"
We are at war with Iran. Iran declared war on USA days ago. Trump is clueless and needs you and others to lick/stroke his ego so he can kick this war into 2nd gear. Lindsay Grahman is stroking/lickin Trumps ego and nobody, NOBODY, knows where this is all going to end.
Iain't over yet. Somebody took a blackhead/piple contractor out in Irag and Trump takes out an eye{ head general } in Iran.
And eye for a pimple/blackhead. Maybe only a hair. You have no idea whats coming, nor do I.
Iran has stated they are willing to take out two major tourist cities { Dubai ad Hafia } if USA retaliates. You think their fooling?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not necessarily 'end-of-game' as you stated.hopefully that day is tomorrow, let's just get it over with.
Trumps USA is more likely end of game because it is Trumps ego running a spontaneous shoot from the hip big dick spurt on you tacticle approach and no overall strategy.
Trump --- obama-bad-man and I will make the world a better place because I'm Trump, the Chosen One.
Yeah right, and Apocalyptic Pence is there lickin this immoral corrupt immature adult, day ever days. Spineless crazies in power.
Lets go commit illegal war crimes because USA is morally above all other countries and humans on Earth. Somebody{s} are asleep at the wheel who lick this ego based booty day-after-day.
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
so you don't think they would use this technology and bombs for terrorism?
USA terrorize humans in every war we have been in. No one or country is free from terrosim label. In war people are terroized and 'Orange-Bad-Man' has now escalated war with Iran by much greater fold than anything Iran has done that I'm aware of.
Why are the other countries not wanting Iran to have these bombs/technology?
Why do any countries want any countries to have hydrogen bombs? As peacekeepers.
So we have enough hydrogen bombs to destroy all of humanity yet some countries may not feel safe from USA or other countries ergo they want their fair access to hydrogen bombs to peackeeper their country from those who do not like them.
It is a vicious circle of every country has a right to their hydrogen bomb for the security and the resultant is going to be, some day humanity is going to die off from nuclear annihilation and that is the end-of-game, and not necessarily what you call end-of-game just because Iran joins the nuclear club of players.
I generally dislike most of those in the U.S. government past and present.
My guess is you lick/stroke the immoral and corrupt 'Orange-Bad-Mans' ego just like the rest of his immoral cult followers.
You need to awaken your consciousness to global scale, and look around with a fresh mind.
Pakistan >< India
Israel/USA >< Iran/Russia
N. Korea/China >< S. Korea { no hydrogen bombs }/USA
France >< ? ? ?
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@TheDredPriateRoberts
how long has Iran been chanting "death to America"?
Ho lone has been since USA shouted "death to Iraqi's? You seem think USA is some kinda of a saint. Not true.
and you think they can be reasoned with?
Yeah, we along with allies had a nuclear deal with Iran and 'Orange-bad-man' took a big crap on it.
they are religious zealots, that's all that matters to them. take over the world and death to all others.
I think you need to look into USA mirror. We have USA military bases in more countries than Iran and' Orange-bad-man' 'wants to take over Iran by wiping them off the map, as was done with Iraq.
if you believe they want to live in peace you are woefully wrong.
USA and other nuclear nations consider hydrogen bombs to be 'peackeepers', but somehow, for Iran to have a nuclear weapon is not an act of peacekeeping. You obviously do not know how to follow ratrher simple, rational, logical common sense. Why is that?
Oh your a cult follower of the immoral, corrupt narcissist 'Orange-bad-man'
they will only comply when forced to or if it furthers their cause.
They were complying with nuclear deal and "Orange-idiot-man" pooped on that contract. Do you have access to any rational, logical common sense brain centers?
They have a long term goal. They will get a nuclear weapon eventually, they know this, they will pretend to go along with whatever plan eases sanctions so they can get what they want. Once they have it, game over.
Hardly game over. Again, you follow no rational, logical common sense. Many countries have hydrogen bombs and it is not "game over". At least not yet.
Nuclear weapons are nuts{ M.A.D } and it is only a matter of time, before, somewhere somehow, one or more are going to go off, intentionally or not. Then and only then will you be able have a valid "game over" comment to express, provided the bombs dont land near you, or others who want to claims Irans having a nuclear weapon is "game over".
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@Greyparrot
All of this started with you cult followers lickin this dictators narcissist ego from day one.All of this has to start with Congress.
People around here like to poo poo ideas of nuclear WW3. If we at war with Iran, we can only hope it does not somehow ignite Pakistan{ hydrogen bombs } and India { hydrogen bombs } hot bed of hate.
Pakistan >< India
USA/Israel >< Iran-? ? ? { Russia-China }
Kim Ung Poo, like Orange-bad-man, may not like not being on front page, and push nuclear button to keep his ego on par with other hydrogen bomb front page players.
So if the any insanity above begins, where does it end? Who are the sane, mature, responsible adults who are in positions of authority that are going stop those who are stupid enough to start WW3?
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@ILikePie5
The fool is you and those who support Trump another stupid escalating the situation stunt by this immoral, corrupt narcissist brain. Distract from his impeahcment and all of his associates who are in prison or soon going to prison.Oh and I forgot, we have the nukes too. It would be foolish for them to escalate it.
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@Greyparrot
@HistoryBuff
HB--Am I ok with a soverign nation getting 1.4 billion dollars that was stolen from them back? yeah. I am totally ok with that. You will never end this kind of conflict with violence. You can only end it with diplomacy.
Eloquent rebuttal, to the most immature ignorance.
GP--You should be happy the deep state controls things and not orangemanbad.
Your "deep state" is nothing more than fantasy for immature teenyboppers who believe 'Spectre' in James Bond 007 movies is a real criminal organization.
Trump 'chosen one' and his ilk are the mosbster criminals and your cult leader, that see as riding white horse he calls Melania, waving dollar signs $$$$ as the way to heaven for all humans who lick his dictatorship style. Sick human being who turns on those close to him if they dont lick his authoritarianism. Sad :--(
The evangelicals and apocalypse Pence are a sad case of backwoods religious nonsense who just aching to burn any at the stake that do not follow their cult belief systems that include the virutal raping of pregnant women, racism etc
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@HistoryBuff
The US has turned an Iranian conservative into a martyr. This will likely massively increase the power of the Iranian conservatives which will certainly lead to more attacks against america.So Wooo!! congratulations american conservatives, you have helped to fuel terrorism by carrying out terrorist attacks in Iraq!!
How many innocent people were killed when US invaded Iraq? How many innocents was this general responsible for?
Are we going into another unnecessary middle-east war where many innocents will not only be killed, but only makes more of a middle-east mess than we have already.?
This is a tit-for-tat, leaves the whole world blind policy of Trump showing Iran, USA peoples ---and the world--- how large his private parts relative to rest of the world powers.
Pence and evangelicals believe Trump is the chosen one. Can you believe this mythological nonsense is ocrruring in 2020?
Trump respects Kim Ung Pooh because he actually has nuclear weapons ---big power like him--- He does not respect Iran, because they do not yet have nuclear weapons ---irrelevant nobodies--- that he will lead the world in stomping like an deadly spider, that, will leave many humans blind, dead, cruelly maimed etc.
And dont forget, we used one of the most sophiscated cyber-attacks ever on Irans nuclear processing systems, and now Iran has had years to reverse engineer that code to use against USA.
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@Vader
Thumbs away! I like that!Cannabis became legal in Illinois yesterday
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@Singularity
You must be very young person. I got on internet back in 90's long before we had the many grapic iconinc Emoji's.Where did you study this "tectonic symbolism"?
:--) or ;-) was very common, primary source of my studies and most other users in those days. I saw many creative uses of texticonic charactors.
I use them as 2ndary symbolisms to represent and association with my concepts. Geodesic shape of space, if not space-time.
Are you ready to get back on topic? Arctic whales live to be at least 200 years old. That is beyond my human maximum average of 120 years.
Specific kind of jellies are superifically immortal, becuase they basically just retract to their stem cells root stage of life, kind of like returning to the womb, yet there is not womb.
Entropy is one direction ergo humans cannot return to the womb.
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@Greyparrot
Don't be silly.
Take a look and the mirror and be prepared to see truth, even if you do not have the spine to acknowledge the truth, that,
your a cultist Trumper forever follower --- irrespective of the immorality of this orange-bad-autocrat, narcissist dictator wannabee--- that,
places money$$$ in his and families pocket above all else.
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@Singularity
I am not sure what the randoms symbols you posted mean. So it makes it hard to respond.
You did not have to respond and I did give minimal explanatory text first time and more 2nd time as a response to you. Why you want to keep pursuing your false narrative, instead of topic of thread, is further evidence that your ego is working overtime.
Also, the only information on texttonic symbolism is on sacred geometry forums and it doesn't seem to be used by anyone not pushing some sort of occultism, so it clearly falls under the generic title of sacred geometry.
You keep going on about "sacred geometry" and this is evidence of your ego working overtime as I have no idea of any such forum much less my having any account with such. Do us all a favor and place your ego to the side, and focus more on truth, and topic of this thread. Thanks.
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@Greyparrot
At least USA doesn't tax the poor at 40%
Have they elected an immoral, narcissistic, racist, Putin puppet, Kim Ung Pooh boot lickin orangebadman cult leader of immoral, racists cult followers? I dunno.
Immoral cult leader has now chosen to escalate us --via eye-for-eye- Tit for Tat--- in Irag. A country we should never have went to war with to begin with.
Lies of immoral Darth Vader types---Dick Cheney--- led us there smack dab in between Shiites{ Iran } and Sunnis{ Arabia } YIKES! :--O M G!
...." Kurdish forces have emerged among the biggest winners, controlling about a quarter of the country [ Syria ] — territory rich in oil, water and farmland. It is the biggest chunk of Syria not in state hands, now with its own forces and bureaucracy.
Assad [ Syria ] has said he will recover the northeast but the two sides have kept some channels open. "....
An of course the Kurds want Kirkuk ---where contractor was killed---
..." When Islamic State militants swept through much of northern Iraq in 2014, Kurdish fighters exploited the collapse of central authority to take control of Kirkuk, the oil city they regard as their ancient regional capital, as well as other territory disputed by Baghdad and the Kurdish north. "...
Look at this map and see that Kirkuk is smack dab on a line half-way between Syria and Terhran.
How does an escalation, deesclate? Negotiations? Communication? A greater whole of United Nations?
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@Singularity
Texttonic symbolism is sacred geometry.
Huh? YOur ego is working overtime creating a false narrative. Sad :--((
Not sure why you are denying it, just spent a while googling it and it is something that is definitely a branch of the sacred geometry and not sure why you are pretending like it isn't something spiritual and pretending it is widely used among mathematicians and scientists.
Your ego is still working overtime to create a false narrative. When you want to address specifically what Ive stated, your welcome to do so.
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@Singularity
I will try to sum up what I am saying below 365 = %%%%%^%%% You are ÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷
Not a fair comparison. Your ego is working overtime to create a false narrative. Sad :--(
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@Singularity
Your the only one talking "sacred geometry" and attempting to project your schizophreninc paranoia on me. Sad :--(The other stuff this "textonic" symbolism or sacred geometry is something I have only seen from the occasional schizophrenic patient, and doesn't make much sense.
Stick to what I present and not what you project and maybe you will begin to grasp anything Ive presented in stead of jumping on a false "gibberish" narrative.
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@Singularity
Again, if we want and extended lifespan, then we need only grab some of the arctic whales genetic code and splice it onto human DNA.
..." Also known as the Arctic whale, the bowhead is by far the longest living mammal on Earth. Some bowhead whales have been found with the tips of ivory spears still lodged in their flesh from failed attempts by whalers 200 years ago. The oldest known bowhead whale was at least 211 years old.May 10, 2011 "...
Further more we have jellies that seemingly appear to be immortal and we only need to grab some of the genetic code and add it to ours.
..." The good news is that you can be immortal. The bad news is that you have to become a floating blob of jelly to do so. Scientists have discovered a jellyfish which can live forever. "....
.." The good news is that you can be immortal. The bad news is that you have to become a floating blob of jelly to do so. Scientists have discovered a jellyfish which can live forever. "...
Hey, that doesnt sound like such bad eternal life. Floating around in the ocean could be groovy thing to do for eternity. Put on some good music and just float our life away.
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@Singularity
I was referring to this random gibberish below. Not sure what you would call it.
OMG, I must of have touched and ego nerve. Your the only person talking sacred geometry, not me.
ME--(><><><><><><><*><*><><><><><><><) Biologic life = finite integral enclosure
The above is not random --your error-- and not gibberish, again your error. Your ego is working overtime.
It was related to the prior statements regarding 31 bilateral spinal nerves. So I used a texticonic symbols in a pattern to represent my thoughts in English.
ME--()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()() Finite = integrity { systemic and structural } = sacred ( divine }
Again, texticonic symbolism --not random gibberish-- to be associated with the associated english text --not random gibberish of the 31 bilateral spinal nerves.
You may need to access a dictionary and expand you grasp of English language.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Gravity = syntropy via synergistic mass-attraction
Again not random gibberish. You need to check dictionary for what is random and what is gibberish. This latter above is symbolism of geodesic space-time. Your clueless and wish to remain so. Many around similar to you.
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Life = syntropy via entropic EMRadiation
Again, your ego blinds you to rather simple texticonic representations of EMRadiation as a sine-wave.
That you dont grasp that all biologic life is a resultant of EMRadiation from Sol is not surpriing. Many around here like your self that appear to be clueless to anything outside a narrow armpit purview and only have disdain for others attempt to do enlightened others. Sad :--(
Maybe your just having a bad week, or your monthly period. I dunno.
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@DynamicSquid
Pi^4 { 4D } - 4 = 24.35 22 7 27.......this is above is my original process of renormalizing 4D{ as spatial only } as a time value only.
Oops, a caught a misprint. The above should read Pi^4 { 4D } / 4 = 24.35 22 7 27
/ = division
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@Singularity
No one here stated anything abut sacred geometry.I don't know that sacred geometry really means much
That said, there exists no occupied space that does not have shape{ geometry }. Common sense.
Finite = integrity { systemic and structural } = sacred/divine. Simple, not complex to grasp.
Infinite = lack of integrity i..e has no structure or systemic integrity
DI = greek for two
Vine = woody plant that grows on surface or just beneath Earths surface and will travel vertically towards sun{?} on trees or poles.
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..." 8,000+ BCE Use of hemp cord in pottery identified at ancient village site dating back over 10,000 years, located in the area of modern day Taiwan. Finding hemp use and cultivation in this date range puts it as one of the first and oldest known human agriculture crops. As explained by Richard Hamilton in the 2009 Scientific American article on sustainable agriculture "Modern humans emerged some 250,000 years ago, yet agriculture is a fairly recent invention, only about 10,000 years old ... Agriculture is not natural; it is a human invention.
....It is also the basis of modern civilization." This point was also touched on by Carl Sagan in 1977 when he proposed the possibility that marijuana may have actually been world's first agricultural crop, leading to the development of civilization itself (see 1977, below).
6,000 BCE Cannabis seeds and oil used for food in China.
4,000 BCE Textiles made of hemp are used in China and Turkestan. ".....
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@Outplayz
....If these "forces" are eternal, or infinite....
OP, they can be eternal and finite at same time.
Eternity is to Time, as,
Infinite is to Space.
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Finite = integrity = Sacred/Divine
Infinite = lack of integrity = lack of Sacred/Divine
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Observed Time { occupied space } is associated with sine-wave /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ frequency's we call physical/reality of fermionic matter and bosonic forces.
Geodesic Space { occupied Space } is associated with positive shaped Gravity ( ) and negative shaped Dark Energy )(
( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )
* * = bilateral consciousness, awareness, otherness, twoness
i = metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } spirit-of-intent via access to mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of God, Space, Baseballs, Dogs etc
Mind, via consciousness, has unique ability to conceptualize a finite Uni-V-erse, and then place our self outside of the conceptual Uni-V-erse as if we are a God, external to it, holding the whole finite, Uni-V-erse, in our conceptual hands, as if were some thing{?} called God or Goddess.
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@HistoryBuff
you are mistaking 2 unrelated things. Unfavorable reporting should happen when a president does something bad. Whether or not uninformed, racist, cultist etc people like the bad things he is doing should not shield him from that reporting..... And on fox news it is virtually 100% positive coverage. That is because they aren't even trying to be news. They are just propaganda.
Well said.
Rational mature adult { HB } --->meets<--- immature, irrational, bird-brain cultist{ GP }
HB, We need more of the righteous like you to speak truth, as you do so eloquently, Thank You!
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@DynamicSquid
So you have no idea why the electrons mass repeats as the muon electron and thee tau electrons specific mass.
That's fine, just asking. We never know, what others might know, to aid us on our journey, unless we ask
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Pi^4{ 3D + time } this one is suspect for valididty when consider the 4th-D as inherently time only value{ more at bottom of page }
Fist tho, here is my original { older } process and concludion for determining an abstract cosmic time value
Pi^4 { 4D } - 4 = 24.35 22 7 27.....
..this latter above is my process of renormalizing 4D{ as spatial only } as a time value only.
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Is it a valid process to consider time in the above Pi^4{ 3D + t } instead of considering it as a hyper-dimension?
Considering the 4th-Dimension ---as Micho Kaku does ihis book" Hyper-space"---as the internal diagonal { / } of a cartesian based XYZ cube, then that volumetric { not surface } diagonal { / } is INward towards the center of cube. This is significant to me because of what I came to later in life.
My numerical based torus creates reality as sine-wave via INward --- (><)(><) -- inversions from the peak of positive ( ) curvature and peak of negative )( curvature of my 4 line/level numerical based torus.
Observed Time reality is the INversions from outer and inner surfaces --(><)(><)-- to create our sine-wave { /\/\/ } patterned association to physical reality.
Pi^4{ 4D } = 97.409091034002437236440332688705
Pi^4 { 4D } - 31{ 3D } = 66.4 09 09 10 34 00 24.........
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@DynamicSquid
Feynmans question to self, was, why does the mass of the electron repeat itself at approximately at 206.7572826?
Pi { 3.133 approximation } * 66 = 206.778 and is approximate to mass of the muon-electron
Pi = 3.141 - 3.133 = 0.008 differrence
Why 66?
66 lines-of-relationships between 12 vertexes of the 5-fold icosahedron and the 12 vertexes of Vector-Equlibrium
Pi^3{ XYZ } = 31.00 62 7 66..............
Pi^4{ XYZ-t } - 31{ XYZ } = 66.4 0909 10 34 00 24
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Pi^3{ 3D }
Pi^4{ 3D + t } this one is suspect as we consider the 4th-D as inherently time only value { more on that at bottom of page }
Pi^4 { 4D } - 4 = 24.35 22 7 27.....
..this latter above is my process of renormalizing 4D{ as spatial only } as a time value only.
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Is it a valid process to consider time in the above Pi^4{ 3D + t } instead of considering it as a hyper-dimension?
Considering the 4th-Dimension as Micho Kaku does, as the internal diagonal of XYZ cube, then that is INward.
My numerical torus creates reality as sine-wave via INward inversions from peak of positive curvature and negative curvature of my 4 line/level numerical based torus.
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@zedvictor4
" G " od = " U "niverse = simple, not complex
God = Universe = Uni-V-erse { finite one } = simple, not complex
Finite = integrity = systemic and structural integrity = sacred/divine
5-fold Icosa{20}hedron contains >
...4-fold Vector Equlibrikum contains >
........3-fold tetrahedron 4-fold contains >
.............720 degrees of surface angle contains >
...............360 degrees of a 2D circle plane contains >
...................4 right angle triangles.....................
120 surface right-triangles of the icosahedron is the maximum set of regular/symmetrical polygons that can occur and cover any polyhedron.
The 120 outer surfaceright spherical triangles of the icosahedron's 6, 10,and 15 great circles generate a total of 242 externalvertexes, 480 external triangles, and 480 internal face-congruenttetrahedra, constituting the maximumlimit of regular spherical system surface omnitriangularself-subdivisioning into centrally collectedtetrahedral components.
1440 internal triangles
Shells of many, if not most, protein based viral shells, are based on the icosahedron
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@Singularity
The maximum lifespan at the moment seems to be about 120
..." Telomeres have been compared with the plastic tips on shoelaces, because they keep chromosome endsfrom fraying and sticking to each other, which would destroy or scramble an organism's genetic information.
Telomeres are made of repeating sequences of TTAGGG on one strand paired with AATCCC on the otherstrand.
Thus, one section of telomere is a "repeat" made of six "base pairs."....
120 / 6 = 20 and there exists 20 amino-acids ----120 / 12 = 5 { 5-fold }
20 equilateral triangles on surface of 5-fold symmetry of the icosa{20}hedron
Icosahedron { spun } induces 31 left and 31 right great circle/planes { tori? }
(><><><><><><><*><*><><><><><><><)
Biologic life = finite integral enclosure
()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()
Finite = integrity { systemic and structural } = sacred ( divine }
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Gravity = syntropy via synergistic mass-attraction
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Life = syntropy via entropic EMRadiation
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@HistoryBuff
Why? That is what the corporate media keeps telling everyone, but the evidence says that isn't true. Sanders has the best favorability rating of anyone. He speaks to the 10's of millions of Americans who can't stand the democrats or the republicans. Hilary was the quintessential "moderate" candidate and she lost. Why would we re-do that mistake?
Hillary was more popular than Bernie. That was why she was the candidate. Why she lost to Trump is a differrent issue.
And again with the Putin X factor, we will never know the results if it had been Bernie.
We will never know how well Warren or Bernie will do against Trump, if hey are not the candidate. I place Warren above Bernie for reasons I gave.
Age { and no heart attacks yet }, woman { tho men favor men }, similar polices as Bernie, has Teddy Roosevelt's rough rider enthusiasm.
The much bigger issue is the voter suppression laws that keep people from voting. I think the number of people who would avoid voting because of electronic voting machines is extremely limited and getting smaller all the time.
Some aspect gerry mandering got overturned by the courts a few months back.
I agree that election security should be taken seriously, but that is far from the biggest priority.
Amy is not the only one pushing for paper ballots. Her proposed law just goes a little further and calls for additional verification process to be included. Paper ballots cannot be hacked and that will gain trust of those voters who dont trust electronic systems, and for good reason.
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@HistoryBuff
this is a critical point. Bernie is the most electable candidate. Centrists want to paint politics as a spectrum. They want people to believe that since bernie is on the left, he cannot possibly be popular among people in the "center". But this is very clearly not true. He is much more electable than most of the field of candidates, if not all.
Yeah I know. Many of liberal friends wanted bernie over Hillary, but again, I thought it was Hillary's time/turn and she had the experience and temperament to do the job.
However, when she ran against Obama, my attitude was similar to what ive stated previously men tend to support men more than women as political leaders. I as pro Obama from the start and that is also partly becuase at that time, I felt Hillary still carried too much anti-clinton baggage.
But by time we got to Trump, I felt that baggage was less signifcant. Was it? Would Bernie have beat Trump? We will never ever know.
But this is a terrible plan. If you are voting for someone because they are the right race, or the right gender and not because that candidate has the right plans and policy decisions then you are missing the entire point. What their plans and policies are is WAY more important than their identity.
Your mostly focused only on that part of my rational. I think a moderate has a better chance against Trump.
Moderates;
Bloomberg, Amy Biden, and too whatever degree, P. Buttige. 3 men and a woman.
Warren and Bernie I would prefer, but doubt their most liberal polices to sell to greater USA. I dunno. Time will maybe tell.
We will have to wait and see what the mobster Putin does. The X factor eh.
H.R. 1, the sweeping House reform bill, would also require paper ballots, but does not require that states conduct audits after elections."..
This is critical to bringing out the vote for those who do not trust anything electronic. Some where recently some district tried out their new electronic voting and it was debacle.
Anything can be hacked, ergo unless we can gain the peoples trust.........
And who is more likely to cheat. Republicans or democrats? Putin or China?
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@zedvictor4
The answer should be a no brainer really.
Do a search and I think that what we will find, is that;
..1} most of those people that have medications that work for them, and they stay on it can do some level of menial work,
...2} if the people who have mental issues acknowledge they have such an issue, is half-way to sanity ergo,
....3} I have kinda of younger person I know --as well as his parents-- that finally acknowledged he had some mental issues, and he went on medicine for it, and now my wife hires him to some menial jobs for her outside of the house ex gradening and lawn work. His has his fathers green thumb.
I have another friend who has been on many differrent drugs for this issue, for 40 years, and he stuck a knife in his stomach about three years ago. He told me on phone that he thought is was correct thing to do at time.
He could probably do menial work, but his letters to me were barely ledgible for many years, but a few years ago became legible, yet he keeps restating the same ole stuff over and over;
do you go to church,
I dont watch tv,
Trump is evil,
do yo listen to music,
then always list the same list favorite music he likes. Sad.
When we were young, his family always stated that, he was like me, in that he was more moody than their other children.
Unlike him, I did various substances --including drug induced psychosis twice --- and also unlike him I did not go out and cut down an electric pole supplying electricity to his or my families home. YIKES!
He became very anti-technology and I always felt I was some of that influence on him. It was a time when many youth wanted to get out of the cities and get back in touch with nature. How many youth like to run barefoot into their late teenage years and 20's.
I recall my running barefoot on sidewalk for about 2 miles, once, when I was about 20. I think I backed way off barefoot after I did that.
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@HistoryBuff
I think sanders is, by a wide margin, the best candidate. Warren is also good.
Ahh, now were getting to the grits of it. Reporting yesterday stated most republicans favored Bernie as a candidate if they had to choose one they like. He is popular. No doubt. And he is male.
The idea that you should vote for a candidate based on their race or gender is deeply flawed.
Women politicians matter to some men and many women. Amy is woman and all of the other reasons I gave.
Too bad Bloomberg is not younger and a woman.
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@Alec
OMG, the ignorance an irrationality you present is so surprising for a libertarian.
1} the fetus/baby is an organism of the woman, until,
2} the fetus/baby is born out, has taken its first INspiration of oxygen/air,
3} has the life supporting umbilical cord severed.
And on top of the above rational, logical common sense truths we another BIG ONE;
1} we have 7.5 billion people on Earth, and that many humans, with the systems we have in place --- ex Grand Jeep Cherokee in every drive way--- is extremely detrimental to the ecological environment that sustains humanity,
2} we have 190 nations, each looking out for only them selves i.e. we have 190 captains trying to steer Space-ship Earth,
3} we have enough thermo-nuclear weapons would still kill;
..." A Physicians for Social Responsibility study modeled the humanitarian impact of detonating 300 Russian nuclear weapons over U.S. cities. The study found 75 to 100 million people would die within thirty minutes. "...
..." But since no one can actually win a nuclear war, the entire idea of achieving “security” through nuclear weapons is a false narrative. That’s why three-quarters of the nations on Earth have called for totally eliminating them. "...
.." Scientific climate modeling demonstrates that in a nuclear war, the burning cities could inject enough soot and smoke into the stratosphere to blot out the sun, dramatically disrupt the climate, ruin crop production, and put billions of people at risk of starvation. "...
.." No one can confidently predict how a nuclear war might end. If nuclear weapons are used again, it could easily escalate to involve the big arsenals—thousands of nuclear weapons. It’s hard to imagine how civilization would survive the resulting apocalypse. Here’s the thing to remember: If the missiles take flight, we’ll all become peace activists. But it will be too late. "...
Serioulsy Alex, you need to awaken your consciousness, as is the case with so many humans, --even 30 years after agreements between USA and USSR to reduce---- we have seeming mature adult humanity living with this potential apocalypse on Earth. Sad :--(
Go figure and get back to me with what really matters and what has the most significant relevance to humanities continued existence on Earth beyond another 100 years.
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@Alec
The reason why drug cartels have so much power is because people go to jail for drugs.
WOW! You continue to surprise me. All drugs should be legal but regulated as best as humanity can.
This all goes back to one common issue:
...1} we dont have unified global governing process, that, is inclusive of all as one race of hunanity,
....2} we have way too many people for the systems we have in place, and that,
...3} is extremely detrimental to the ecological systems that sustains humanity.
This above should be obvious to most rational, logical common sense mature adults, however, we all know many human adults never reached maturity, lack proper education, mislead by misinformation campaign by the immature immoral adults.
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@Alec
I don't think anyone should be deported because I support open borders.
WOW! I had no idea you were of this mind.
It would double the world's GDP and increase America's by about 50%.
Ok, now I see why. Gross Domestic Product or is it Gross Domestic Produce ---from the fields of hard labor----.
I have nothing against hard labor. Ive been doing it most of my life and dont see any end of it before I die.
Actually bodily damage will limit my physical abilities but I will find work that doenst take as much physical prowness.
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@HistoryBuff
so instead of taking bribes from rich people to use the government to benefit the rich, you want to cut out the middle man and just have the billionaires make the laws themselves? That is worse, not better.
Because of Trumpism I choose Bloomberg over the rest. Again the age bothers me, since 78 is average for 1st world man.
Compared to trump Bloomberg is a saint. Sorry you cant see that.
but she doesn't stand for anything. She gets along with republicans and doesn't fight for anything. Those are not selling features. Those are huge handicaps.
She stand as pargamatic midwesterner female with senatorial experience and not near end of her life i.e health is not lilely to be an issue as with Bernie or Bloombberg
this is way under selling it. His mind is going. He regularly can't remember what state he's in, names of people (including obama), or what his policies even are. He has mood swings where if he is questioned, even the slightest bit, he yells at people and insults them.
He is my #3 and I take him over Warren because of the reasons as mentioned EXPERIENCE. True he doesn't carry his age as well as Bloomberg appears to.
You skipped over Warren so she must be your #1 choice. { YES WE WILL } I understand that. Female Teddy Roosevelt i.e. rough riding woman.
I like Amy also cause Hillary didnt get in and I want a woman in there as soon as possible. No she doesnt have any { YES WE CAN } charisma to speak of.
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@zedvictor4
Woman { Xx } has a womb ---that is why their called womb-man.
Man { Xy } have no womb and will never bear a fetus to birth.
Some believe humans be able to create life within 30 years. I'm skeptical that will ever happen and feel the same way about a functional womb every be implanted into a woman.
Penis envy by women only occurs when a woman is in a more public place and wish they could just whip it nearly anywhere to pee, instead of having to find a place to drop their pants-ties.
More men strive to be a woman than a man, and that is because men have and X chromosome that has some genes actively inducing their envy of womanhood.
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@ILikePie5
Same as all Earthians, live on til we die.What are you going to do when he wins again? Cry?
Seek and speak truth.
Consider cosmic possibilities via various methods that fall within my purview of exploration.
...................................Space( Time *) i (* Time )Space..............................................................
Hopefully find fun in life. Here funny-funny-funny, where are you funny-funny. :--)
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@Greyparrot
Nor do I do know ---or so its been reported on MSNBC-- Paul Manifort ergo his aid Rick Gates, colluded with Russaians over 2016 via Ukraine.......Now I don't know why......
Nor do I know why Muleller did not, however, did Paul Manifort har ties to Trumpster --duh yeah--- yet apparrently, not enough to convince Mueller of a crime by Trump.
We all know Trump is an immoral, crooked, psychopathic liar. We also know that his cult followers will never concede such, even after he is imprison, and that is again, because of their ego blocking-out truth.
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@Greyparrot
.....he said "No Collusion"
Rational, logical, common sense adults, in the know, know that Rick Gates{ charged } via Paul Mafort{ charged, indicted and inprison } colluded with the russians to interfer in the 2016 elections via Ukraine.
Again, Mueller just felt Trump was beyond his abilities to charge must less convict and handed the ball of to other state law systems and congress to take action. I forget his exact comments.
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@Greyparrot
Ha, ha, you really think I forgot.You forgot Trump in your list. Jus sayin.
Nor did I forget other candidates, however, those mature adults in the know do not consider Trump as valid ---i.e. valid being not a mobster type criminal, psychopathic narcissist, racist etc---.
Oh yeah, I'm talking to cultist Trump follower....:--(
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@Greyparrot
Yes it is a dream of rational, logical common sense dreamers ---imagine-- he is going to prison along with cohorts.Nah.
IMAGINE all of the corrupt and spiritual immorals, paying their dues in fair and justly proportion way.
It isnt hard to do, unless, you have a bird-brain and lack access to empathetic centers.
..."You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope some day you'll join us,and the world will live as one."...sung to J. Lennon tune
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1} M. Bloomberg, 77, because,
......1a} he is beholdend to no one, matches and exceeds Trumps peer economic basis and support.
.......1b} has necessary governing experience, of New York City,
........1c} more moderate than other canidates, and I believe that is a plus on democratic side
........1d} age is a negative ifwe discount experience, wisdom and the above,
........1e} name recognition etc.
2} Amy Klobuchar, 58, ---originally my first choice til Bloomberg got in-----
....2c} moderate with senatorial experience, and less aggressive from a woman may play to men better,
....2b} age is a plus,
....2c} traditionally men less likely to vote in a female,
....2d} supporst nuclear power, but more on that at bottom --again she is moderate on most issues, tho $15.00 will scare off some independents--- I suppose $12. is a moderates compromise :--)
3} Biden, 76,
........3a} experience outweighs most all else and he is male ---men like that in a president---,
........3b} age is negative and more so if his cognition gafs make him less charismatic,
........3c} recognition over Amy Klobachar and the above should make him #2 on my list, yet something nags at me to place him over Bloomberg and Amy, tho that is personal bias, not necessarily practical consideration on my part.
4} Elizabeth Warren, 69, --my 2nd choice till Bloomberg got in---
.....3a} female Teddy Roosevelt{ aggressive }, ----tho Tedddy lost his 2nd run after voluntary stepping aside one election,
......3b} more experience than Amy, but more liberal for the rich paying more ---aka a fair share--- ergo less moderate,
......3c} men less likely to vote in a woman.
5} Pete Buttigieg, 37,
....4a} men vote for men, majority of men not vote for gay man,
....4b} young and carrys himself very well on stage and debates ergo charisma age and some experience governing but not like New York City.
6} Steyer, 62,
......6a} monetary peer to Trump, ergo, --money talks--,
......6b} lacks charisma ergo lack of breaking through to the other side ability,
......6c} age is reasonable but again, doesnt have the charisma or experience of a Buttigieg
7} Cory Booker, 49,
......7a} not sure what I'm missing here ---charismatic presence i.e. lacks the oratorical presence { YES WE CAN }of an Obama type and that is important to those democrats who could not, not like Obama for any good reason.
8} Bernie gets honarable mention because of his popularity. Popular vote did not get Hillary in and his non-support of existing nuclear power plants ---people dont want get cold and will ruin the ecology long before they will worry about the the potential toxic negatives of nuclear power and its wastes etc.
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@Greyparrot
.........You mean the mature adults........
Yes. I know you not familiar with mature adults nor do you recognize racism of cultist Trumpist.
Sad :--( days for USA, humanity and the ecological Earth that sustains us all.
Trump is going to prison along with some of his cohorts. Unfortunately there is no reprimand for the ignorant immorals that voted for him irrespective of various reasons of their support then, and those who still supporting this psychopathic, narcissistic criminal.
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@Outplayz
@IlDiavolo
Oct. 2019
..." Firefox is the only browser that received top marks in a recent audit carried out by Germany's cyber-security agency -- the German Federal Office for Information Security (or the Bundesamt für Sicherheit in der Informationstechnik -- BSI).
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@Greyparrot
It is in a court of mature adults and those who can place their ego, racism etc to the side to recognize truth, morality and spiritual justice.......Orangemanbad may be an impeachable offense,.........
That reminds me, most of the Trump cultist are racists.
So ego and racism is probably the two largest reasons we have these cultist Trump supporters/enablers.
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@Greyparrot
That is what mature adults know. Some are just ignore this truth and sell their soul/heart for some unknown reason, at least unknown to me.............Orangemanbad...............
In some cases its is primarily ego. And this ego comes into play in differrent ways for differrent Trump cult followers.
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@Greyparrot
Everyone knows a mobster is a criminal. Many humans are criminal, yet not charged or convicted.Nowhere in the 400-word diatribe (not written but read by Mueller) did the phrase "impeachable offense" appear because he had no possible crimes to list.
Everyone knows a mobster is lacking moral spiritual integrity. Many humans are lacking moral and intellectual integrity, but some are in positions of authority because of those who also lack some degree of moral and spiritual integrity.
Everyone knows a mobster lies and some mobsters lie more than others to line their pockets with money and maintain their power position. Differrent humans will ignore the truth and give their soul/heart to the immorals for differrent reason.
Is there a common denominator for all of the people mention in all of the above set of circumstances?
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