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@Snoopy
How do you check that your SSD (Solid State Drive) or HDD (Hard Disk Drive) is in good repair?
Start with small hammer and work you way to larger hammers and you find the state of solidity of your HD..... :--))

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@Snoopy
I'm unsure of why caucasion, chinks, etc... is mentioned in your reply and what significance that is meant to convey.
Because racism and sexism is a roadblock ---bump in the road---   to humanities attainment of Utopia.



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@Reece
@TheRealNihilist
doesn't a resultant have to occur for there to be objectivity? Observers would be irrelevant otherwise. 
Yes.  Not sure I suggested otherwise. Not sure what is more correct way of stating my below.

...1} what is being processed ex photon of specific frequency, and,

....2} how it is being processed  by various humans or other biologic animal, plant fungus, bacteria etc.
......{ Ex Fred Hoyle states, in his 190's book "The Intelligent Universe"... that the gene that reflects yellow in animals is same gene in plants. }..

Both are objectively { observed } true, irrespective, of wheter the resultants after processing, is the same for each biologic.

One sees red and color blind sees something else both both resultants are true for that observer.

So each biologic may or may not process frequency of color the same way, if at all.

And again, there may be many various kinds of molecules that cause the same frequency of color to be reflected.

So one person hears a sound and that is truth. Another person hears no sound and that is truth for that individual.

Two kinds of truth exist, absolute and relative. If there exists a third kind of truth, that is not a subcatagory of those two, please share and I will add it to my Cosmic Trinity.

Omar--Do you have a lite version of what you just typed? I would greatly appreciate it.
"lite" equals watered down i.e. less refined less descriptive ergo not the whole truth. Not a comprehensive truth.

The more we refine { pure } our definitions of words --of what we observe-- the closer we orbit absolute truth, or that  is approximately how Fuller states it.

Refined//pure takes more words ie a process of sorting { winnowiing out } the chaff from the hull and any other debri to get to the kernal//core.

Generalizations take less words. Ex we have SPACE, and then we have two primary sub-catagorys of SPACE.

We have generalized human, but then we have many subcatagories of human. Male, Female, Black, White, Asian, Tall, Short, etc.

Fuller also mentions how he did all this long hand math to get to his trigometric solutions, and he knows the process//pathway of how he got from A to Z. Then along comes digital computer and kids can get the correct resultant immediatly without any idea of the processsing pathways of how the calculator got there.

A woman has a baby and she can tell you the process but a  man can never truly know the process because he cannot confirm he knows the feelings the woman has.  Woman and man are distinctly differrent organisms, even greater than race//color.






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@Snoopy
The United States of America is more of a globalist design of government than most countries.

USA Civil War Caucasians against Caucasians
..."The South wished to take slavery into the western territories, while the North was committed to keeping them open to white labor alone."...

USA melting pot ex Chinese labors { Chinks } build first railroads in USA. Yes?
Then came the Irish next. Yes?

USA corporations have always been involve globally. Yes?
USA did not want to get involved with Britain { Caucasian } and Germany{ Caucasian } war. Yes?

Then Pearl Harbor happened and USA got more involved globally. Yes?
And USA has been more involved globally since that time ex in rebuilding Europe { cacasian nations }. Yes?

United Nations { Caucasians primarily } initiated.  Yes?
USA blacks soldiers came back home to Caucasian imposed racism. Yes?

USA has not integrated poor Carribean countries into their fold. Yes?
And those they have integrated fall short of support ex Puerto Rico most recently. Yes?

USA president currently wanting to shut the southern border completely. Yes?

So I repeat:

..."USA is primarily wealthy 1st world country, that is backwards in that it has the ability{ wealth an skills } to meet all of its citizens needs but chooses not to do that. 

...We { humanity }  have  the wealth and the skills to meet all humanities basic rudimentary needs, --based on current systems of operation---   if their existed the unified agreement to choose to do so."....

Spirituality is beyond economics or as my alcoholic, quasi-Christian Scientist mother would often say,

...."where there is { exists } a will { spirit-of-intent }, there is a way"....

Thank you mom for the pearls of wisdom you passed on.

They CallMe Gem
.......Mustard....
 
perhaps adiamond in the dip
castingRubies onto the road
pearls fromthe sea
silica outof quartz
cyrstalinetears
proteinbells
photo-pops
pie in thesky?
 
or,
 
a sandstonehumus
combing myterra-cognitive
loosening thepebbles in my brain
absorbingthe fungus among-us
feasting onmoonlit vegetation
bathing inthe algae and bacteria
I liquefyand evaporate,
towardscosmic heaven.

Utopia or Oblivion,  for all human kind
Or so Fuller stated, in 1969.

..."British TV viewers may not realize that Buckminster Fuller was the subject of the very first science programme on BBC2, broadcast in April, 1964. He recalls this here amongst a torrent of reminiscences, reckonings and predictions, composing a brilliant, compressed guide to his ideas.".....


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Motion Potion Moves Momma
Ma-triarchy = mama = mo-mma = motion = attractor { pulls-INward } = contraction = birthing
( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )( )

Pa-triarchy = papa = po-pa = po-tion  = pusher { pushes-OUTward } = expansion = dispersive//dissociating?
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

.................................................SPACE ( /\/\/ )( \/\/\ ) SPACE.........................................................
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..."Infrared is usually divided into 3 spectral regions: near, mid and far-infrared.

...The boundaries between the near, mid and far-infrared regions are not agree dupon and can vary. The main factor that determines which wavelengths are included in each of these three infrared regions is the typeof detector  --{--i,e. observer processor--}--  technology used for gathering infrared light.".....see LINK

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@Reece
I try to stay simple.
Objective truth =;

...1} what is being processed ex photon of specific frequency, and,

....2} how it is being processed  by biologic animal, plant fungus, bacteria etc.

Both are objectively true irrespective if the resultant after processing is the same for each biologic.

Differrent molecules reflect photon as specific frequency of color ergo the objective source.

Differrent molecules observe, via various processes, the incoming photon of what ever specific frequency of color.

Vipers see { process } infra-red humans dont

..."Infrared is usually divided into 3 spectral regions: near, mid and far-infrared.

...The boundaries between the near, mid and far-infrared regions are not agreedupon and can vary. The main factor that determines which wavelengths are included in each of these three infrared regions is the typeof detector  --{--i,e. observer processor--}--  technology used for gathering infrared light.".....


Beauty lies in the eye of the observer { beholder } as much as it does the presenter { source }.

O >------------/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/----------> ( * * )





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Motion Potion Moves Momma
Humans are the windows-of-the-soul { biologic } to comprehend Universe aka Uni-V-erse, via thei. access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept i.e. human ability to envision the the most wholistically comprehensive, and finite set, that we can then identify as  " G "od//" U "niverse.

SPACE ( * )  i  ( * )  SPACE

....* v *...... bilateral complexity
.......v........
.......v.......
.......v.......
.......v......
.......v....... 31 bilateral spinal nerves
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@Yassine
Yassine...defines God as the Necessary & Singular & Transcendent & Absolute being....
Yassine, this appears to me as meaningless since it has no descriptive, or elaborative content associated with each of these words.

Unlike what Ive seen from you or others, I actually give plenty of descriptive detailed explanation.

Triangle { polygon } or the five regular//symmetrical and convex polyhedra are neccessary, singular polyhedra,  and absolute truths  exists both as occupied space and a concept, ergo transcendent.

Gravity (  ) and dark energy )( both are metaphysical yet both direct effect Observed Time { reality } ergo they may be the most transcendent phenomena of Universe//Uni-V-erse.
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Occupied space Universe//God eternally exists, ergo there is no source or creator.  There there is no direct evidence of origin or source for our eternally, yet finite, Universe/Gods existence.
.....naught is created nor lost...see 1s t law of thermodynamics.......

Disscussion of God//Universe is insignificant and meaningless unless we have common agreement of definitions as specifically described.  Ive given the most descriptive and accurate definitions as follows and none have anyrational,  logical common sense toinvalidate my givens as stated.
 
" U " niverse / " G " od is most wholistic inclusive set as it includes the Cosmic Trinity below and all of its subsets.
 
Universe//God aka Uni-V-erse #3 below is less inclusive and is not considerate of #1 and #2 below.
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The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities
 
1} spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God,Universe, Ego Toyota's etc.
 
.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--
 
.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--
 
.....1c} lies//falsehoods
 
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2} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied SPACE, that, embraces/surrounds the following #3,
...2a} ?
...2b} ?
...2c} ?
 
3} God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erseas follows;
 
.....3a} spirit-2, Observed Time aka reality/energy via fermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms ,molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,
 
.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positive shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,
 
.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( as negative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.
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.....meta is greek for beyond and there is four distinc tkinds of meta-physical in the above cosmic trinity above hence the enumeration#1, 2, 3, 4.....
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Observed Time aka reality is commonly associated with a sine-wave topology ex /\/\/\/\/\/ or as ^v^v^v and defined by diametrically opposed inversions { >< } from peaks of positive ( ) and negative )( geodesic curvature  of a torus (  )(  )ergo the texticonic representation as (><)(><).
 
Occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse is composed offermions  and bosons that are each defined by two or more tori ---my speculation-- interfering with each other. The sum-total of all interfering tori is occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse.
 
 
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i = immature or baby metaphysical-1 ego
 
I = mature adult, metaphysical-1 ego
 
I = immature adult narcissistic, metaphysical-1 ego
 
* i * or * I * = most complex bilateral consciousness
........with woman {Xx } being more complex than man { Xy }.........
 
(  )(  ) = vertical bisection/cross section of a torus, which torus has positive and negative geodesically curved space.
 
( (  ) )  = horizontal { birds-eye-view }bisection/cross section of a torus.
 
SPACE (>*<)  i  (>*<) SPACE
 
SPACE ( Time )  i  ( Time ) SPACE
 
SPACE ( ^v^v)  i  ( ^v^v ) SPACE
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Humans dont really know what happen at the Big Bang phenomena or what existed before.  Our instrumentation only reveals what appear to have existed a few hundred thousandyears after the big bang not what existed before.
 
...."The universe has not expanded from any one  singularity spot since the Big Bang — rather, space itself has been stretching, and carrying matter with it.
 
....--See LINK-- Since the universe by its definition encompasses all of space and time as we know it, NASA says it is beyond themodel of the Big Bang to say what the universe is expanding into or what gaverise."...

The problem I have with the latter quote above, is that they do not describe the medium, substance, fabric of what this "space itself" is exactly//specifically yet they say it is stretching.

A rubber band stretches.  Steel  expands and contracts as does concrete.

I lay out very clearly what SPACE, Space and space is in my Cosmic Trinity. None have ever offerred any rational, logical common sense to invalidate my ideas, as stated.  I doubt any ever will.  Only time will tell.


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@nagisa3
Descartes' statements i find unconvincing. I don't see how yelling "I think!" In Latin is a valid proof of anything. 
I think about something { an occupied space } ergo I exist as a something { an occupied space } that has access to the following;

1} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and ego ex concepts of Ego, Mind, God, Universe, Space, Time, Dogs, Toyota' etc.

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2} macro-infinite, non-occupied SPACE, that embraces/surrounds the following,

3} Spirit-2, Occupied SPACE Universe/God via fermions bosons --and any aggregate collection thereof as quantised and quantifiable physical/energy aka Observed Time that is associated directly with a sine-wave topology /\/\/\/ or as ^v^v

...3a} Spirit-3, gravity (  )  positive shaped geodesic occupied Space,

...3b} Spirit-4, dark energy )( is negative shaped geodesic occupied Space

......"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....

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..."The current path of global carbon emissions reveals grasslands as the only viable net carbon dioxide sink through 2101. And grasslands continue to store some carbon even during extreme drought simulations."....See LINK

Age ofCommon Sense
......Mustard....
 
No oneknows, what future unfolds,
Rays oflight, colored with hope,
Dancingnano-energies, fulfilling our dreams,
Networksblooming spirit, far, wide and deep,
 
Let uspray, let us speak,
Lets us seeour humanity, from a global peak,
High oninformation, data streams galore,
Let usemanate great heart, from every pore.
 
No human ismisplaced, no biological not known,
The kidsstill growing, or already grown,
All is notperfect, cracks always appear,
The spiritof humankindness, helps relieve any fear.
 
Talk ischeap, inexpenive indeed,
Humanitytalks much, when in dire need,
Send me aphrase, or lines upon lines,
Free usfrom suspicion, and misinformation seeds.
 
We race toour end, or our recursive beginnings,
Mindsadvancing technologies, may help bridge the gap,
Betweendark-age of soot and the light age of Solar,
ItsHydrogen from light, and common-sense as the rap.
 
Unity stillevades us,
Divisionconquers all,
Day andnight provides the wind,
And waves, as  energetic squalls.

Global Energy Grid..... Bucky Fuller

The next World Wide Web will be a GlobalEnergy Grid see LINK
-- andit will transformeverything.


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@Titanium
Hmm what would you say if I said there are cheap simple solutions to reverse global warming without reducing carbon emissions at all?
Big Blue Stem Prairie Grass best carbon sequestor

...."The discovery of Glomalin in 1996 improved our understanding of soil affinity for carbon. Glomalin is the superglue that soil uses to attract and hold carbon. Because of glomalin, prairie soils are able to sequester large amounts of carbon which over time changes the soil into Mollisol, a soil type found only under prairie grasslands.  Mollisol soil is extremely rich in organic matter and can extend to a depth of three feet."..

...."The roots of some prairie plants can extend to a depth of 10 feet or more. Various studies of the potential for tallgrass prairie carbon storage have shown that the storage rates vary between .30 and 1.7 metric tons per acre per year.  This storage ability is cumulative over time so prairie soil is able to sequester or store large volumes of carbon in a natural, safe, effective and reliable way compared to the risky and expensive practice of pumping CO2 underground.  An additional benefit of this “grassland carbon storage system” is that the sequestered carbon is supporting a lush prairie ecosystem above ground." See LINK...

..."But in today’s world, prairie needs to be recognized for its capacity to help reduce climate change by sequestering heat-trapping carbon from the atmosphere.

......Native grasses are a stable repository of carbon (see Figure 1). They create organic carbon below ground, much as trees create it above. Grasses store carbon quickly, providing an immediate mitigation against global warming, and the carbon is safely underground, secure from catastrophic events such as fire."...

HOWEVER, consider also this >>>>see LINK

...."The researchers found that having prairie grasses such as big bluestem, indiangrass, or switchgrass resulted in carbon gains when planted on productive soils. However, the same was not true for marginal soils, where all grasses, regardless of species or type, resulted in net carbon losses to the atmosphere.".....
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@Outplayz
It gets more complicated once i add in who we are to this source, but that's the sum of what i think the source platform is.       
You havent made any rational sense with sand, sand castles, mind, infinite source so you and we are certainly not ready for a more complicated  Philosphy 101 from Outplayz.

Occupied space Universe is eternally existent, ergo, at best, what we have with the big bang phenomena, is an initiating set of circumstances that may eternally recycle//regurgitate//re-ignite every so often as the next WOW! ....SHAZAM!..... HOLY MACKERAL!........KA-BOOM!........YOUSER!

Non-occupied SPACE is eternally existent and macro-micro  infinite ergo lack of integrity.

Occupied space { Universe//God } is finite ergo an integrity.

SPACE > Space (  )(  )  > space of Observed { quantised } Time /\/\/\/\ or as ^v^v^

SPACE( /\/\/)( /\/\/ )SPACE

SPACE( * )  i  ( * )SPACE

i = baby ego { metaphysical-1 earliest access } --its all about me--

i = teen ego { tainted//skewed by hormones }

i  = mature adult ego { tainted//skewed by experience } 

I  = immature narccist ego { tainted//skewed by greed } --its all about me--





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@Fallaneze
So you do have independently verifiable observable evidence of consciousness?
Yeah, flip the refridgartor over on our toe.  Oh but your wearing steel toes so you feel nothing.

Well some people have rare genetic conditions where they feel something going on but they do not feel pain. and they do not have anxiety.

Are they conscious.  Well, I saw the interview with this lady and she seem to speaking clearly about her condition, her experience of birthing two  babies etc.

Most people would say her talking in a rational, logical way in that intervew is evidence that she is conscious.

Do we have any doctors in this thread who can verify if any humans are conscious or not.

Philosophy 101, ...M-Tard---does this message by me  exist? Philosopher reply---what message? 





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@Outplayz
I've gone into a bit more of the specifics behind what I mean by "Supreme Being" (prime, eternal consciousness and creator of the universe.)

If his "Supreme being" is an occupied space, --ex human beings occupy space---   he certainly has no given no evidence much less any rational,  logical common sense.

If his "Supreme being" is metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept, then I'm ok with that as that is pretty much all any of these God believing types have in way of rational, logical common sense, however, occupied space something is not created ergo the finite and eternally existent, occupied space Universe something does not come from;

1} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, nor,

2} does Universe come from the macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE.

So those religious and philosopher types who keep espousing this type of irrationally illogical lack of common sense are playing mind games and not interested in truth
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@Outplayz
"prime, eternal consciousness and creator of the universe."
Ok thanks.

So Fallanese's God is "prime".  Whatever that may mean to them. 

"Eternal" is good as Ive made clear Universe//God is eternal for many years now.

Creator is incorrect. You and him both reference an inferred cosmic "source" ergo a "creator".



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We all know what motion is, except for maybe some so called  philosopher types. However, what exactly//specifically is  moving?

Humans are moving and there  speed is relative to a myriad set of other occupied space phenomena that are also moving.

Relative to my chair or computer my body as a whole is no moving. Relative to the sun I'm on  planet that is moving relatively faster ---67,000 mph-- than my speed relative to my computer chair, at this time.

Mo-tion begats more mo-tion.

Mo-jo { charm } begats more mo-jo { charm }

Mo-mma { charm } begats more mo-mma's via Pa-pa sperm inseminating mo-mma

Energy{ motion } attracts { pulls-toward } motion ---precession is effect of bodies in motion, upon other bodies in motion, most often at 90 degrees--

What moves outward must always be attracted back inward ergo finite integrity or reciprocating motion

Man  pushes the limits, and cosmic laws//principles remind him there exist limits to what can be pushed, how far and how fast.

Woman, at optimum, operates at 90 degrees  --precessionally lateral-- to man and looks to circumvent the push through approach with go around or take another tack { trajectory }, with results that are satisfactory with out all of the crashing through to the other side, boom boom drama.  Sure men to this also and more so with more expereince, but in general they tend toward the push forward method.

Im reminded of the BBC movie Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy movie wherein a fly is in car with George Smiley and his two associates. They keep trying swoosh the fly away their heads with their hands.

When the fly gets near Smiley he lowers the window the fly leaves the vechicle.  Of course Smiley learned from his experience of seeing what was happening to his two friends in front seat.



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@Outplayz
I see his definition...
Outplayz, Please point me to his definition of his God --thank you--  as I seemed to have missed, tho I think his definition is relevant to any of my posts here recently.

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@Outplayz
Can i change your definition of god to something more like a non-dual, oneness, pantheism type god?
Did you actually see any definition of his God recently?  I know is incorrect because it involves the creation of occupied space Universe.

Occupied space Universe cannot be created nor destroyed is transposition of the 1st law of thermodynamics.

...'naught is created nor destroyed'......ergo a finite set of eternal transformations is all that has existed and all that will ever exists.

None have ever offered any rational, logical common sense that, invalidates my givens as stated. I doubt any ever will.


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@Outplayz
Tell me what you believe in a paragraph without bullet points and character signs and i will respond accordingly.
Ive told you plenty what I believe { "where Im coming from" } and I havent conversed with you in year or more, if only once in that time.

An outline format is found at the beginning in any good educational book. Get on board on move on elsewhere cause my Cosmic Trinity that specifically defines and leads to many detailed descriptions of four distinct and fundemental kinds of spirit.
..."Table of Contents: This page or pages outline what is included in each chapter of the book...."

1} place your ego to the side and,

2} ..."The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education....A Einstein" ie. place all of your education to the side so you can be an open vessel to that which have not truly opened you mind and soul to.
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 I think you have little idea of what spirit is exactly. Whereas Ive laid it out clearly for some years now

The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities
 
1 } spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God,Universe, Spirit, Ego Toyota's etc.
 
.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--
 
.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--
 
.....1c} lies//falsehoods
 
3 } God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erseas follows;
 
.....3a} spirit-2, observed Time aka reality/energy viafermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms,molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,
 
.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positiveshaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,
 
.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( asnegative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.

Please come back and talk to me,  if you want to have  a rational, logical common sense discussion and  not irrational, illogical and lack of common sense, philosophical mind games.


 
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@Outplayz
but i am almost certain something is going on that we can attribute to spirituality
The above are your comments, that I addressed #175, so you can play your own childish mind games of "dont remmember what this thread is about"  and address what I stated, or not.

Ignoring truth only shines light onto the resistance to truth by the others ego. Your fine with ignoring those truths.  Ego is hard thing to overcome and while forgiveness of God//Universe is instantaneous, forgiveness by humans takes time. I hopefully have a few years left.  
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I think you have little idea of what spirit is exactly. Whereas Ive laid it out clearly for some years now

The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities
 
1 } spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God,Universe, Spirit, Ego Toyota's etc.
 
.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--
 
.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--
 
.....1c} lies//falsehoods
 
 
3 } God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erseas follows;
 
.....3a} spirit-2, observed Time aka reality/energy viafermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms,molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,
 
.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positiveshaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,
 
.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( asnegative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.

Please come back and talk to me,  if you want to have  a rational, logical common sense discussion and  not irrational, illogical and lack of common sense, philosophical mind games.



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@Fallaneze
Can you use some independently verifiable observable evidence to determine that?

Just as I predicted you would say in #142.

...M-Tard ..."I can hear their reply already.".....

....'Do I have evidence that I'm conscious? No.

.....Do I believe I'm conscious? Yes'....

This is all Tom Foolery 101 philosophical looping in circles without ever addressing the rational, logical common sense elephant in the room { thread }.

Philosophy 101 meets relgious 101 and infinite set of random two-way looping{?}, for eternity, broke out.

Actually a looping i--see a torus or triangle integrally resolve itself--  what creates integrity so what you so called philosophers and religious are doing is an irrational, illogical looping of sorts.

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@Outplayz
but i am almost certain something is going on that we can attribute to spirituality. 
I think you have little idea of what spirit is exactly. Whereas Ive laid it out clearly for some years now

The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities
 
1 } spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God,Universe, Spirit, Ego Toyota's etc.
 
.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--
 
.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--
 
.....1c} lies//falsehoods
 
 
3 } God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erseas follows;
 
.....3a} spirit-2, observed Time aka reality/energy viafermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms,molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,
 
.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positiveshaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,
 
.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( asnegative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.

Please come back and talk to me,  if you want to have  a rational, logical common sense discussion and  not irrational, illogical and lack of common sense, philosophical mind games.


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@secularmerlin
Are you conscious?
I can hear there reply already.

....'Do I have evidence that I'm conscious? No.

.....Do I believe I'm conscious? Yes'....

This is all Tom Foolery 101 philosophical looping in circles without ever addressing the rational, logical common sense elephant in the room { thread }.

Philosophy 101 meets relgious 101 and infinite set of random two-way looping{?}, for eternity, broke out.

Actually a looping i--see a torus or triangle integrally resolve itself--  what creates integrity so what you so called philosophers and religious are doing is an irrational, illogical looping of sorts.





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If we curve this tube ---ex slinky toy-- to meet itself we have a torus ( (   ) ) = horizontal bisection of a torus. I believe a torus is also relevant to bilaterlism in animals. Still working on better understanding of this concept.
With a spiral helix defined torus ---as my numerical version is-- we see that there is a distinct between left and right side of the spiral helix.

On left the spiral leading point is leads away from us ///////

On the right side the spiral helix is now coming back to us, towards its initial source or begining and the leading point leads toward us \\\\\\\\.

See LINK

Another LINK

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@Yassine
...defines God as the Necessary & Singular & Transcendent & Absolute being....
Yassine, this appears to me as meaningless since it has no descriptive, or elaborative content associated with each of these words.
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Occupied space Universe//God eternally exists, ergo there is no source or creator.  There there is no direct evidence of origin or source for our eternally, yet finite, Universe/Gods existence.

Disscussion of God//Universe is insignificant andmeaningless unless we have common agreement of definitions as specificallydescribed.  Ive given the mostdescriptive and accurate definitions as follows and none have anyrational,  logical common sense toinvalidate my givens as stated.
 
" U " niverse / " G " od is most wholistic inclusiveset as it includes the Cosmic Trinity below and all of its subsets.
 
Universe//God aka Uni-V-erse #3 below is less inclusive andis not considerate of #1 and #2 below.
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The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities
 
1} spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God,Universe, Ego Toyota's etc.
 
.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--
 
.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--
 
.....1c} lies//falsehoods
 
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2} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied SPACE, that,embraces/surrounds the following #3,
...2a} ?
...2b} ?
...2c} ?
 
3} God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erseas follows;
 
.....3a} spirit-2, Observed Time aka reality/energy viafermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms,molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,
 
.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positiveshaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,
 
.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( asnegative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.
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.....meta is greek for beyond and there is four distinctkinds of meta-physical in the above cosmic trinity above hence the enumeration#1, 2, 3, 4.....
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Observed Time aka reality is commonly associated with asine-wave topology ex /\/\/\/\/\/ or as ^v^v^v and defined by diametricallyopposed inversions { >< } from peaks of positive ( ) and negative )(geodesic curvature  of a torus (  )(  )ergo the texticonic representation as (><)(><).
 
Occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse is composed offermions  and bosons that are eachdefined by two or more tori ---my speculation-- interfering with each other. The sum-total of allinterfering tori is occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse.
 
 
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i = immature or baby metaphysical-1 ego
 
I = mature adult, metaphysical-1 ego
 
I = immature adult narcissistic, metaphysical-1 ego
 
* i * or * I * = most complex bilateral consciousness
........with woman {Xx } being more complex than man { Xy }.........
 
(  )(  ) = vertical bisection/cross section of atorus, which torus has positive and negative geodesically curved space.
 
( (  ) )  = horizontal { birds-eye-view }bisection/cross section of a torus.
 
SPACE (>*<)  i  (>*<) SPACE
 
SPACE ( Time )  i  ( Time ) SPACE
 
SPACE ( ^v^v)  i  ( ^v^v ) SPACE
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Humans dont really know what happen at the Big Bangphenomena or what existed before.  Ourinstrumentation only reveals what appear to have existed a few hundred thousandyears after the big bang not what existed before.
 
...."The universe has not expanded from any one  spotsince the Big Bang — rather, space itself has been stretching, and carryingmatter with it.
 
....--See LINK-- Since the universe by its definitionencompasses all of space and time as we know it, NASA says it is beyond themodel of the Big Bang to say what the universe is expanding into or what gaverise."...

The problem I have with the latter quote above, is that they do not describe the medium, substance, fabric of what this "space itself" is exactly//specifically yet they say it is stretching.

A rubber band stretches.  Steel  expands and contracts as does concrete.

I lay out very clearly what SPACE, Space and space is in my Cosmic Trinity. None have ever offerred any rational, logical common sense to invalidate my ideas, as stated.  I doubt any ever will.  Only time will tell.


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@Fallaneze
Next question: do you have any observable evidence of consciousness?

Minimal consciousness = twoness, otherness, awareness

O = me { observer }

O = other { observed }

--- = line-of-relationship --ex EMRadiation or gravity-- between me and other

<..O--O...> = background, against which finite other is observed, finite  me is observed,  or finite Universe is conceptualised.

EMRadiation is quantised and quantified   --visible and invisible---

Gravity has neither association to quanta or quantifiable, to date --underlying essence--

The most complex consciousness,  accesses metaphysical-1 mind/intelllect/concepts and ego, ergo the ability to conceptualize a finite Universe with a conceptual God { self } outside of the finite conceptual Universe, looking back in and holding the finite conceptual Universe in a set of conceptual hands.

They got the whole wide world//Universe in their hands......Sing it with me..........

Most complex entity is woman { Xx } ---see more bilateral brain activity---  with man { Xy } a close 2nd having less bilateral brain activity.

Woman = attracter

Man = pusher


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@keithprosser
Like I said, you are a natural fence-sitter!
Much worse than that, --on some issues-- SM likes to take the post of the fence verticallly split it { micro-V-division } more and more so as to keep them further from clarity and resolution.

i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle baby ego {  } plus motion ego not skewed
..........undeveloped ergo  least complex ego....

i  know this or that age 10 onward with ego conceding much is not known beginning around age 25
..more developed ego that knows left from right around age 8.....

i desire > Sex > i desire > Sex  i desire > Sex  > teens ego { i } plus motion with ego partially skewed
....ego and brain skewed by hormones aka puberty till around 25 when brain has finished development ....

I  is mature adult

I desire  to be God >  I desire  to be God > adult narcissist ego { I  } plus motion with ego greatly skewed


Death aka terminal ending of biological life, and end of local-case//special-case ego { virtual ego ergo virtual self }


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@Fallaneze
Again, "observable evidence" won't get us any closer to answering whether God does or does not exist because a "prime, eternal consciousness who created the universe" has no physical, observable characteristics.
Somebody has been drinking way to much kool-aid of illogical irrationality ergo lack of most basic common sense.

Gravity (  ) and Dark Energy )(  is the closet we come to metaphysical, yet still exists as an occupied space. 

Metaphysical-1, does not exist as occupied space.

Metaphysical-1, exists as complement to occupied space.

Here is an occupied space curved line >(< and it has metaphysical-1, concavity and convexity shape//pattern ergo shape complememts occupied space.

However, brain does not inherently mean access to intellect much less rational, logical common sense access to intellect.


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@keithprosser
In philosophy 'Phenomenon' is usually almost synonymous with 'perception' and 'noumena' is the underlying reality.
Visible-to-naked eye EMRadiation --very narrow set---

Invisible-to-naked eye EMRadiation ---underlying yet very large yet finite set of quantisable and quantifiable ---

Gravity (  ) and Dark Energy )( ---the non-quantised, if not also non-quantifable, ultra-micro and ultra-macro set---

......"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....



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@n8nrgmi
The contiuned existent of weapons of mass destruction can only lead one final resultant.

It is just a question of time til humanity blows its brains out of existence.

Humans are basically babrbarians and weapons in the hands of barbarians, on whole, only goes in one direction.
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@Swagnarok
"Empire" = rich ruling class. 

Whoever has the gold makes the rules. Financial Golden Rule

Whoever rules the internet of communication rules the masses.

“Never underestimate the determination of a kid who is time-rich and cash-poor.”
― Cory Doctorow, Little Brother

..."China's One Belt One Road (OBOR), also called Belt and Road Initiative and the New Silk Road

By building infrastructure in more than 50 countries, China will have enjoy a clear edge over its rivals, mainly the U.S., Japan and India. China can sell its wares to the developed countries and set up sweat shops in poorer countries as its own manufacturing slows down due to higher cost of power and rising wages. What China is aiming to build is a vast economic empire.

It has already begun work on OBOR in right earnest in Asia, Africa and Europe. If China is able to build even half of what it has planned in the next two decades, it will be the global power that no country would be strong enough to challenge."....LINK

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..."The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool."... Ricard Feynman

.."Surely Your Joking Mr. Feynman?"...."" ""
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@Titanium
I know it's a common perceived experience for those under the influence of cannabis.
Mild hallucinate that gives appearance of suspending time because individual is more sensitive to additional states of awareness.
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...."The universe has not expanded from any one spot since the Big Bang — rather, space itself has been stretching, and carrying matter with it.

....See LINK Since the universe by its definition encompasses all of space and time as we know it, NASA says it is beyond the model of the Big Bang to say what the universe is expanding into or what gave rise to the Big Bang. Although there are models that speculate about these questions, none of them have made realistically testable predictions as of yet."......

Whereas they say "space" is stretching the do not state the essence or medium, or fabric, or substance of this "space". A rubber band expands contracts. Steel expands contracts.

Where they lack clarity in there description of Space,  I add  specificity  by making the distinction of  four specific kinds of SPACE in my above Cosmic Trinity.

Macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE, that, embraces//surrounds

Gravity ( ) Space  ---positive shaped--

Observed Time Space --sine-wave associated /\/\/ or as ^v^v

Dark Energy )( Space --negative shaped--

In the past when they say space-time they Ive clarfied that as occupied Space via Gravity (  ) Dark Energy )( and Observed Time ^v^v ergo;

SPACE (^v^v)(v^v^)SPACE

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i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle baby ego {  } plus motion ego not skewed
..........undeveloped ergo  least complex ego....

i  know this or that age 10 onward with ego conceding much is not known beginning around age 25
..more developed ego that knows left from right around age 8.....

i desire > Sex > i desire > Sex  i desire > Sex  > teens ego { i } plus motion with ego partially skewed
....ego and brain skewed by hormones aka puberty till around 25 when brain has finished development ....

I  is mature adult

I desire  to be God >  I desire  to be God > adult narcissist ego { I  } plus motion with ego greatly skewed
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Death aka terminal ending of biological life, and end of local-case//special-case ego



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Prime Toroidal Universe of Number Patterns
{0}..|* |* {*} |*...14  = the truncated di-pyramidal set of 13 points//nodes plus the non-counting #0 { inside tube not di-pyramid } and, the counting #14 { outside of tube, on inner surface of torus.

In review, we have the following lines-of-relationship that define the graviton//darkion quanta as based on Fullers formula;

Sum-total of 13^2 = 169  >  169 - 13 = 156 >  156 / 2 = 78 vectorial lines-of-relationship that define  graviton//darkion quanta

Outer and inner only is 9^2 = 81.  81 - 9 = 72.  72 / 2 = 36 lines-of-relationship
....there exists 36 kinds { flavor//aggregates } of quark. 18 quark and 18 anti-quark.......

Inside the di-pryamidal quanta 4^2 = 16.  16 - 4 = 12.  12 / 2 = 6 lines-of-relationship { internal-only }, to the di-pyramid quanta.

And again, we remind ourselves of and expontial { synergetic? } gain  in the number of lines-of-relationship i.e. when adding those lines-of-relationship seperately we only get a total 42 lines-of-relationship.



....1.....................5P............7P...................11P..........13P.......................17P.......19P..................23P.......25..............outer peak of positive surface
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{0}.................................6....................................12.......................................18...................................24..................inside toroidal tube
................3...................................{9}.........................................15.....................................21....................................inside toroidal tube
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...........2..........4........................8...........10...........................{14}......16.......................20..........22....................26........inner peak of negative surface.

|* = 1, 2, 4 as triangle set  and  * as the internal #3 nodal point

|* = 5, 7, 8 as a triangle set  and the * as the internal #6 nodal point

|* = 10, 11, 12 as a triangle set the * as the internal #12 nodal point

{*} = isolated #9 inside the di=pyramidal quanta { graviton//darkion }

{0}..|* |* {*} |*...14  = the truncated di-pyramidal set of 13 points//nodes plus the non-counting {0}  inside tube not di-pyramid  and, the counting {14} outside of tube, on inner surface of torus.

So this total of 13 nodal points and we may associate indirectly, with the 13 vertexes of the the nucleated cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron aka the Vector Equlibrium{ VE } in Fullers Synergetics, i.e.  there is 12 peripheral vertexes and a 13th nuclear vertex aka one-in-the-oven { cosmic pregnancy } 12-around-1. See LINK

I take note here that when the VE as jitterbug  ---only 12 vertexes-- transforms to the double-sine-wave pattern, or a few others, its nucleus becomes 4 vertexes. So here we may see association to the 4 nodes//points inside the truncated di-pyramid.

However, the VE//jitterbug will have only 8 around 4, whereas the truncated di-pyramid will have 9 around 4.
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@Fallaneze
Anyone up for debating your beliefs about the existence of God?
Disscussion of God//Universe is insignificant and meaningless unless we have common agreement of definitions as specifically described.  Ive given the most descriptive and accurate definitions as follows and none have any rational,  logical common sense to invalidate my givens as stated.

"U " niverse / "G " od is most inclusive set as it includes the Cosmic Trinity below and all of its subsets.

Universe//God aka Uni-V-erse #3 below is less inclusive and is not considerate of #1 and #2 below.
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The Cosmic Trinity and its subset of trinities

1} spirit-1{ spirit-of-intent } aka metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept with a resultant ego{ i }. Ex concepts of Space, God, Universe, Ego Toyota's etc.

.....1a} absolute truth --ergo cosmic--

.....1b} relative truth --ergo local special-case--

.....1c} lies//falsehoods

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2} metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied SPACE, that, embraces/surrounds the following,
...2a} ?
...2b} ?
...2c} ?

3} God//Universe as occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse as follows;

.....3a} spirit-2, observed Time aka reality/energy via fermions, bosons ---and possibly a new 3rd  hybrid catagory-- or any aggregate collection thereof. Ex atoms, molecules, biologicals, planets, clusters of galaxies etc,

.....3b} spirit-3, metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ) as positive shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space,

.....3c} spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark energy )( as negative shaped geodesic curvature of occupied Space.
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.....meta is greek for beyond and there is four distinct kinds of meta-physical in the above cosmic trinity above hence the enumeration #1, 2, 3, 4.....
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Observed Time aka reality is commonly associated with a sine-wave topology ex /\/\/\/\/\/ or as ^v^v^v and defined by diametrically opposed inversions { >< } from peaks of positive ( ) and negative )( geodesic curvature  of a torus (  )(  ) ergo the texticonic representation as (><)(><).

Occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse is composed of fermions  and bosons that are each defined by two or more tori interfering with each other. The sum-total of all interfering tori is occupied space Universe aka Uni-V-erse.


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i = immature or baby metaphysical-1 ego

I = mature adult, metaphysical-1 ego

I = immature adult narcissistic, metaphysical-1 ego

* i * or * I * = most complex bilateral consciousness

(  )(  ) = vertical bisection/cross section of a torus, which torus has positive and negative geodesically curved space.

( (  ) )  = horizontal { birds-eye-view } bisection/cross section of a torus.

SPACE (>*<)  i  (>*<) SPACE

SPACE ( Time )  i  ( Time ) SPACE

SPACE ( ^v^v)  i  ( ^v^v ) SPACE
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Humans dont really know what happen at the Big Bang phenomena or what existed before.  Our instrumentation only reveals what appear to have existed a few hundred thousand years after the big bang or what existed before.

...."The universe has not expanded from any one spot since the Big Bang — rather, space itself has been stretching, and carrying matter with it.

....See LINK Since the universe by its definition encompasses all of space and time as we know it, NASA says it is beyond the model of the Big Bang to say what the universe is expanding into or what gave rise to the Big Bang. Although there are models that speculate about these questions, none of them have made realistically testable predictions as of yet."......

Whereas they say "space" is stretching the do not state the essence or medium, or fabric, or substance of this "space". A rubber band expands contracts. Steel expands contracts.

Where they lack clarity in there descripition of Space,  I add  specificifity  by making the distinction of  four specific kinds of SPACE in my above Cosmic Trinity.

Macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE

Gravity ( ) Space

Observed Time Space

Dark Energy )( Space

In the past when they say space-time they Ive clarfied that as occupied Space via Gravity (  ) Dark Energy )( and Observed Time ^v^v ergo;

SPACE (^v^v)(v^v^)SPACE








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Mo-tion begats mo-tion.

Mo-jo { charm } begats mo mo-jo { charm }

Mo-mma begats mo mo-mma's.

Energy{ motion } attracts { pulls-toward } motion

What goes out must always be attracted back in ergo finite integrity.

Man  pushes the limits, cosmic laws//principles remind him there exist limits.

Woman, at optimum, operates at 90 degrees  --laterally-- to man and looks to circumvent the push through approach with go around or take another tack { trajectory }, with results that are satisfactory with out all of the crash boom drama.
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@Fallaneze
Deterministic processes do affect our environment but hasn't been determined to be the cause of any human behavior.
The "enviroment" is a finite set of "determnistic processes".  No environment then no human. No "determinsictic proceesses" then no human.

(1) human behavior is in direct contrast to how deterministic processes behave.
Humans access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and ego, are direct synergetic resultant and the source of the illusion of free will, and at best  limited free will. Free will illusion cannot violate the finite set of cosmic laws/principles.

(2) quantum mechanics shows that reality is indeterminate unless observed. This, if true, proves that determinism is wrong.
Uncertainty need not necessitate chaos of mind. Occupied space reality { physical/energy } aka Observed Time, is a resultant of underlying set of occupied space of metaphysical-3 ultra-micro gravity (  ) and metaphysical-4, dark energy )(.


(3) people prima facie have free will.
A very good illusion of finite free will is still an illusion and no differrent then a very good magican performing illusion of magic.

The true magic is that we have the mo-jo of mo-tion. We have top speed-of-motion and it remains a mystery as to how that speed appears as a contant irrespective of the observer.


(4) determinism can't be a rationally held belief if it's in fact true. We would all be pawns of mindless forces, installing thoughts and behaviors into us as chemical reactions. Mindless forces that are doing all of the controlling are not rational and possess no understanding.
Replace your use of the word "mindless" with integral forces having a magnitude and direction of vector.
That we cannot quantise or quantify the force does not make less the effects we observe.

Humans do not have any elemental force within them, that we can assoicate with limited free will, that is not any one or more of the elements we find elsewhere in Universe.

(5) if determinism is true, people have no moral culpability. Prima facie people have moral culpability.
Yes they do because humans have adopted morals into our life mechanics, irrespective of whether free will is a very good illusion.

(6) cause and effect are not violated if free will exist due to mental causation.

A very good illusion of limited free will, remains a very good illusion, irrespective of how many of the fermons and bosons we can quantise, quantify as a whholistic maping of all lines-of-relationship assocated directly or indirectly to every motivating choice { desire } or desire { emotion } that moves us.

Sitting at table, the brain processes { mo-tion } recalled { mo-tion } and event { mo-tion } and a critical amount of occupied space chemistry moved me to move { get out of the chair }.

Woman { Xx }//Attracter with seeming static egg X sitting around doing nothing. Just waiting for the egg X to fall { gravity? | through the fallopian tube into the uterus.

Man { Xy }//Pusher sends spermazoa  on its pathway to the egg X.

The scene is set in motion ---it was never static to begin with--- as they come after all of the previous lines-of-relationship vectors//desires that led these two to this confluence of emotional resultants of a fertilized egg { * * } that has not yet adopted and ego. Or has it?

Children do not usually distingush between left and right untill their abaout 8 years old.  When does the fetus identify with its ego?

Mo-mma's chemistry attracts Papa's chemistry. Love Motion//Potion #9

Egg chemistry attracts spermazoa chemistry. Love motion//potion of chemistry { charge }

RNA-DNA >< RNA-DNA combining and multiplying { motion } as a dynamic{ motion } cell and mo-cells.

More willd motions for 9 gestation months

Mo-mma's uterus muscles contract IN-ward and fetus//baby is pushed-OUT.  SHazam!  

Breath Baby Breath, clean out the airways and induce breathing with spank { motion } on the buttocks.

Wahh! Wahh! Give that baby some nipple { supple motion } and see if it will stop Wahhing.

So now baby knows enough Wahhing may have good tasting nourishment { milk }. Ego developes.

Cry suckle, cry suckle cry suckle Motion begats motion.

i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle > i desire > suckle baby ego { i } plus motion ego not skewed

i desire > Sex > i desire > Sex  i desire > Sex  > teens ego { i } plus motion with ego partially skewed

I desire  to be God >  I desire  to be God > adult narrcist ego { I  } plys motion with ego greatly skewed

Death aka terminal ending of biological life, and end of local-case//special-case ego




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@Alec
-AK 47s banned nationwide.
Good idea, and lot of other guns. Replace them with smart guns.

-Teachers are allowed to arm themselves with any legal gun to defend their classroom
Fine, as long as these are smart guns cause ever teacher, or student,  is not neccessarily smart.

Dumb guns is the problem in the hands dumb barbarians and humans are basically dumb barbarians when push comes to shove.

We have smart tvs, smart airplanes, smart cars and we  need smart guns.

Smart windmills, smart hydro-electric dams, smart solar panels.

Smart nuclear power plants come with smart nuclear wastes.




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@Outplayz
....i don't know, but i think it would be a logical outcome of an infinite mind...
"infinite mind"?  Can anyone explain what that is? I dont think there exists any rational, logical common sense explanation.

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@Polytheist-Witch
Blah, blah, blah.
Your dull, monotone reply to truth, is not surprising to rational, logical common sense and omini-comprehensive, wholistic considerations.
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Only Integrity Is Going To Count....Bucky Fuller
Ok, but who is counting?  I know what  is counting and the instrument being used.

Does a Trumpanzee even know what it means to ask the question?  No?

I didn't think so.  What do narccisst's dream?

...'all of my dreams are about me'........ego }*  i  * { I sure cant deny that about myself.  Many of my dreams involve me and  I had never really thought about that untill Trumpanzees came out of the closet. YIKEs! I sure hope the go back in.

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@Fallaneze
The prima facie conclusions is that we can choose between different courses of action unless shown otherwise.
We cannot "show otherwise" we can deduce//infer  it from;

1} our understanding of deterministic cause and effect,

2} energy --and all occupied space--- cannot be created nor lost.

Just as we deduce the existence of a macro-infinite, non-occupied space , that, embraces//surrounds our finite, occupied space Universe, from our experiences of all systemic and structural integrates  being finite.

We will never calculate the ultra-high number, --yet finite--, of inter-relationships of Universe's parts, nor can we ever map that ultra-high number --yet finite--   of ever changing patterns of inter-relationships, that they all produce.




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@Alec
Insults aside, do you own sources of alternative energy?  If not, your advocating for fixing something that not even yourself fixes.  This is hypocrisy.
Thhis is the 2nd or third time you created this insignificant and irrelevant to truth scenario in attempts to insult and degrade me.

Read my lips//text once again, maybe it wont go i none ear and out the other again.

Many humans do own a Boeing 737, however, this in no way means these human cannot state truths in regards to those planes.

Do you grasp these concepts Alex, or are they to deep or large for your mind to grasp?  I think both, to deep and too broad for your mind to grasp.

Place you ego to side and let the truth shine in.  You will probably burn easy as you appear to me have been allowing your ego to have been blocking out sunshine of truth for many years.
 
Most Hybrid-Franken-Trumpanzee see LINK  souls are dark with narcissism, lies and deceit. Sunshine of truth is visible light to vampire human.
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@Wylted
Are you retarded or crazy?
Typical narrow//short minded-ness cannot get beyond even the  most simple duality.

Your type only see a the narrowest set of only this or that  scenarios.

I think you need to look in the mirror and do some deep micro-introspection  before coming out of your hole in the ground and attempt to enter our macro-finite, wholistically comprehensive and eternally existent Universe.



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@Greyparrot
Wolf! Wolf!
Yes, it is true that your a "wolf!" in narcissist, Hybrid-Franken-Trumpanzee clothing.

It is not alarmist when truth is communicated to others.  You three dont grasp this truth, or many other truths.

Your ego is in fear and that is why it creates mental blockages to truth.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity, that, you have yet to grasp, and your ego will never allow to be grasped, much less comprehended.

For the narcissist, ones self-ego is the one, the total, the divine supremacy and all else is blocked out, true or not.

..."Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding." see LINK.....

Why is it so many humans cannot think outside of a limated shoe-box of their own making. 

....'the greatest interference { impdiement } to my learning comes from my education'....A Einstein
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Bucky Fullers world grid idea requires no batteries, and it connects the day and night side of the planet, ergo, the amount of energy we have on Earth is doubled immediately, just by the night side wind and hydro sending energy to the day side, where, it is most needed.

Duhh.  Wind power requires not batteries --day and nigtht sides of planet connected---  require no batteries. Duhh --Doh!

Duhh. Hydro feeding into a world energy grid --day and night sides connected-- requires no batteries --Duhh - DoH!

Duhh. Solar feeding into the world grid requires not batteries. Duhh - Doh!
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Duhh, yes weve been moving into a ice age for many years now, and for those  Trumpanzees to think that the slow pace of an ice age is going to outrun at fast pace of human induced global warming is just more evidence that their ego is running in fear of obvious, well documented truths.

I need to write a song about Trumpanzees ego and the short sided, narcissist viewpoints.




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@WyseGui
I believe this universe may be some sort of simulation.
What purpose, reason, rational, logic evidence ---direct or indirect-- you also do not give.

Ive elaborated greatly on what the best case for some un-defined, not described what a "simulated" Universe may be associated with.

Begin with Jacob Bekensteins black hole mathematics, --later confirmed by S Hawking--   wherein he was led to holograhic ideas and stated to scientific American that, .."we appear to be 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D"...

My original explanations of this phenomena  began with,

1} a tetra{4}hedron{ \Y/ } that insides-out via one of its vertexes passing through its diametrically opposing triangular opening,

2} when the vertex is the half-way point, between outside-out and inside-out, we have a 2D condition//situation,

4} most recently, Ive reference a 2D { flatten } tetrahedral phenomena within my four line//level, spiralle-helix and sequential, numerically toroidal pattern see LINK,





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@Polytheist-Witch
You forgot Trumpanzee.
As always, your insignificant commentary  is irrelevant truth. Typical of Hyrbid-Franken-Trumpanzee narcissism

Your ego, like many here at DArt and Dart,  is in fear of truth.

When the ego is in fear of truth,  it creates mental blockage to truth, to protect itself.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.

Ego is a double edged sword, just as oxygen is. Oxygen { unstable and seeks to stabilize itself } is necessary, but too much will burn the lungs

Ego { unstable } seeks to stabilize itself in various ways.

1} finding integral systemic and structural truths as pathway to self-estem and compentency

2} removing { blocking } all truths that degrade ones ego { self esteem }.


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@Greyparrot
@Alec
It is not alarmist if it is truth.  You two dont grasp this truth, or many other truths.

Your ego is in fear and that is why it creates mental blockages to truth.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity, that, you have yet to grasp, and your ego will never allow to be grasped much less comprehended.

For the narcissist, ones self-ego is the one, the total, the divine supremacy and all else is blocked out, true or not.

..."Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding." see LINK.....

Why is it so many humans cannot think outside of a limated shoe-box of their own making. 

....'the greatest interference { impdiement } to my learning comes from my education'....A Einstein
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Bucky Fullers world grid idea requires no batteries, and it connects the day and night side of the planet, ergo, the amount of energy we have on Earth is doubled immediately, just by the night side wind and hydro sending energy to the day side, where, it is most needed.

Duhh.  Wind power requires not batteries.

Duhh. Hydro requires no batteries.

Duhh. Solar feeding into the world grid requires not batteries.

Hybrid-Franken-Trumpanzee's do not grasp duhh! or DoH!

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