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@Greyparrot
Alarmists should get jail time for destabilizing society.
It is not alarmist if it is truth.  You dont grasp this truth or many other truths.

Your ego is in fear and that is why it creates mental blockages to truth.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity, that, you have yet to grasp, and your ego will never allow to be grasped much less comprehended.

For the narcissist, ones self-ego is the one, the total, divine supremacy and all else is blocked out, true or not.

..."Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered, arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as cocky, manipulative, selfish, patronizing, and demanding." see LINK.....

Why is it so many humans cannot think outside of a limated shoe-box of their own making. 

....'the greatest interference { impdiement } to my learning comes from my education'....A Einstein
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Bucky Fullers world grid idea requires no batteries, and it connects the day and night side of the planet, ergo, the amount of energy we have on Earth is doubled immediately, just by the night side wind and hydro sending energy to the day side, where, it is most needed.

Duhh.  Wind power requires not batteries.

Duhh. Hydro requires no batteries.

Duhh. Solar feeding into the world grid requires not batteries.

Hybrid-Franken-Trumpanzee's do not grasp duhh! or DoH!





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@SamStevens
@secularmerlin
@TwoMan
@Fallaneze
A person's motives (reasons) sets their intentions but their will is what drives (or causes) their actions towards that goal.

Motivation comes from mo-tion -- to move -- mo-tor -- mo-jo{ magic } --mo-mma --

P1) deterministic forces, such as chemistry and physics, do not possess reason or understanding.
Complemented by metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo rational, logical common sense and eternally inviolate, cosmic laws//principles


P2) deterministic forces, such as chemistry and physics, produce human thoughts and behaviors.
ccess to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts is onn possible synergetic resultant { 1 + 1 = 4 } but not a gurrantee in every special-case.

P3) Human thoughts and behaviors are rational.
Human thoughts can be rational, logical common sense or not. Most often they are a combination of both rational and irrational.  No humans are perfect.

Biological or non-biological  stems from the exact same elements of Uni-V-erse.  Biologicals do have not some special kind element that all other aspects of Nature//Uni-V-erse //Cosmos does not have.

Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo access to absolute and relative truths as a synergetic resultant, as is biologic life.

Does the truth set us free? No, the truth does not set us free from the inviolate, finite set of cosmic laws//principle.

All free will illusion stems only from cause-and-effects of chemistry, atomic,  sub-atomic, gravity ( ) and dark energy )(.

"feelings" are chemistry, that we then the attempt to identify and label, via our access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/mind.

1} Spirit-1 { spirit-of-intent }, ergo metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, ego and any concepts of Space, God, Feeliings, etc
...concepts of Space, not an actual Space,
occupied or not..

...........line of demarcation.............

2} Spirit-2, occupied space fermions, bosons and any aggregate thereof,

3} Spirit-3, occupied Space,  (  ) Gravity { mass-attractive } ---contractive Pulling-IN integerative phenomena --female attracter--

4} Spirit-4, occupied Space of )( Dark Energy { repulsive } --- disintegrating phenomena ---male pusher--


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@Polytheist-Witch
Your pathos is not my problem
Your ego, like may here at DArt and Dart,  is in fear of truth.

When the ego is in fear of truth,  it creates mental blockage to truth, to protect itself.

Ego is the greatest danger to humanity.

Ego is a double edged sword, just as oxygen is. Oxygen { unstable } is necessary, but too much will burn the lungs

Ego { unstable } seeks to stabilize itself in various ways.

1} finding integral systemic and structural truths as pathway to self-estem and compentency

2} removing { blocking } all truths that degrade ones ego { self esteem }.
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@keithprosser
I hope tha's not too 'ebucy'!
Ebucki ....{ *  * }.....bilateral consciousness with an ego {  i   }...I am somebody....and the fetus shorts out.......

So the illusion of free will stems from bilateral consciousness becoming entangled with --interfering with self-- as a finite, quantum integrity of judgement//resolution.

See this LINK to see how one spiral torus falls through the other with seemingly little interference { entanglement } with each other.

We know that unlike fermions { spin fractional } cannot occupy the same state or space, whereas whole number spin photons, are happy share the same state//space and the link above kinda of approaches that phenomena at classical { medio } scales of existence.

What goes around must come around to complete a circuit, or as quantum integrity resolution//judgement.

What makes the consciousness circuit integral is that it is a spirally contiguous//continuous i.e. the integrity of the slinky is that it is a spiral helix.

.."6.Spiral Waves in Mammalian Cortex

....Spiral waves are self-sustained, regenerative activity.

Similarly, spirals are also observed in the awake turtle visual cortex during the visual process.36 In the cortex in vivo, long-range and nonlocal connections, such as thalamocortical and corticocortical connections, may disrupt the spiral rotors and make spiral waves unsustainable.35
Therefore, spiral waves in intact cortex may occur during certain brain states when local excitatory interactions are predominant, while they are unsustainable in other brain states when long-range connections are strong......






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Boeing 737 Fix Was Stalled 5 Weeks By USA's Uneccessary 5 Week Shutdown
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@Greyparrot
Do you have a link from Madcow's show that says Boeing was affected by the government shutdown?
A rational, logical common sense and moral person like Rachel does not deserve to be disrepsected by any, Hybrid-Franken-Trumpanzee's like you.

Come back and talk to me when you gain the ability to actually exhibit some morally respectful integrity and decency towards Rachel.
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@Polytheist-Witch
This has nothing to do with anything. 
Sure PW,  just keep allowing your ego to tell yourself that.

Meanwhile, those who can place their ego to the side, know that my comments have to do with everything.

That you are stuck at the diametric, other end of where I begin, is not a surprise to any who follow rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

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@keithprosser
Boeing have thousands of 8's on order and Airbus has a very good plane that competes with it.  They gambled with people's lives to preserve their order book and share price.  That's capitalism, not Trumpism.
What I presented was what I saw on Rachel Maddow program.  I can repeat it if need be or you can go to the post #1.

If what I state is false, then please share info that ivalidates Rachael Maddows claims, and then we can try and verify any thing you have to offer.

...Trumps USA unnecessary shutdown kills 350 --should be 150--  people because of 5 weeks stall-- on talks, that could have led-- to implementing Boeings fix to its 737.....

Ive made a correction an elaborattion to the original so as to better reflect what Rachel Maddow was presenting.

...Elaine Chao needs to ground all Boeing 737's now, as most of the Earths rational, logical common sense countries have done."...

Trump saved Elaine Chao's{ Mitch Oconnels wife } butt by grounding the 737, even tho she had the power to so.

Trump probably so the storm headed his way and made the correct call.



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@Polytheist-Witch
"G " od aka "U " niverse is the most cosmically inclusive { contains } set;

......1} God//Universe { Uni-V-erse }

...........1a} local god//local universe{ me-verse or i-verse }

"U " niverse > Universe > universe > I-verse < you-verse < we-verse < them-verse

Expanded, comprehensive, wholistic thinking contains { inclusive }  the more contracted, narrow minded thinking.

The eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE, does not contain the finite, occupied space integrity  Uni-V-erse.

The eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE, embraces//surrounds the eternally existent, finite, occupied space integrity , Uni-V-erse.

eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE is shaped by, the outer perimeters of the eternally existent, finite, occupied space integrity, Uni-V-erse.
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@Yassine
- I wonder, Cassie here has some strong ideas. Maybe she can dominant.
Like I said, 'narrow minded'.  You think that I'. referencing any one woman and/or one man, when I'm actually referencing a new cultural way for humanity to proceed forward with greatest chance for survival and prosperity.

As a species we need to move away from man being less dominating over women and have women be more dominant over men, in general.

This should be a minimal brainer for those humans who practice rational,  logical common sense.  Not sure how much of that deep and broad scale comprehenisve thinkin we have at DArt or most forums on the internet.  Not much from what Ive seen.

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Race against race, nation against nation, religion against religion, tribe against tribe is all a aggregate collection of narrow viewpoints, that, can only lead to the destruction of humanity on Earth. None here actually grasp the larger long term picture//scenario.
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The largest divide of differrence  is sexual. i.e. man { Xy }  <--><-->  woman { Xx }.

If man{ Pa-triarchy } were to ever become subservient --over 50%-- to the woman Ma-triarchy , humanity would have greater chance of surival. There exist no gurrantees for humanity, in any of these pathways forward.

That approach's greatest difficult would be uniting the rich <--> poor divide.

The question is how to pull-humanity as united integral set, rather that push-humanity into united integral set.

Pulling-IN-ward is the path of least resistance.  Will man{ pusher } ever allow woman{ attracter//mass-attracter } to dominant the human landscape on more issues?

Woman { nurtures//integrates//pulls-together } 

Man { pushes apart//disintegrates }





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Prime Toroidal Universe of Number Patterns

|* |* {*} |* = three 2D triangles { not subdivided } and the four internal points//nodes{ * } with isolated {*}  #9

| = 1, 2, 4 as triangle set  and  * as the internal #3 nodal point

| = 5, 7, 8 as a triangle set  and the * as the internal #6 nodal point

| = 10, 11, 12 as a triangle set the * as the internal #12 nodal point

{*} = the isolated i.e outside of any triangle set, #9 nodal point

So this is a total of 13 nodal points or as 13 vertexes. Aha! The nucleated cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron aka the Vector Equlibrium{ VE } in Fullers Synergetics,  there is 12 peripheral vertexes and a 13th nuclear vertex.

....1......................5............7......................11..........13........................17.......19....................23.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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0...................................6....................................12....................................18...............................24..................inside toroidal tube
................3...................................{9}.........................................15.................................21.................................inside toroidal tube
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...........2..........4........................8...........10.............................14........16...................20..........22.................26........inner peak negative surface.

|  |  | = profile from side of three subdivided triangles{ 12 points//nodes } that define a 3D tube having 36 surface lines-of-relationship

|  |  {9}  | = three subdivided triangles and the isolated and internal #9 point//node

|* |* {*} |* = three 2D triangles { not subdivided } and the four internal points//nodes{ * } with isolated {*}  #9

{0}..|* |* {*} |* = includes zero{ internal to overall tube } outside of this graviton//darkion as the complement to #9 inside the set and internal to graviton//darkion quantum as one section of longer//greater toroidal tube.

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@Greyparrot
Imagine a world where humans don't have sweat glands or air conditioning...now imagine it's 103 degrees outside...
Imagination is not common to all people here at DArt. Reading comprehension skills is also in short supply by a few of the narrow-minded.

Yeah, imagine that is like telling you need to loose weight an that will help with the fever, so we need to shed a billion or two peoples, or at least not add another 2 billion any time soon.

All of the 60's predictions of the global population had to be revised in the 90's, to 1 billion less people, for two reasons;

1} China began there 1 child per family policy, and,

2} so many in Africa were dying from AIDs.

Bucky Fullers world grid idea requires no batteries, and it connects the day and night side of the planet, ergo, the amount of energy we have on Earth is doubled immediately, just by the night side wind and hydro sending energy to the day side that needs it most.

Duhh.  Wind power requires not batteries.

Duhh. Hydro requires no batteries.

Duhh. Solar feeding into the world grid requires not batteries.

Why is it so many humans cannot think outside of a shoe box of limitations.

....'the greatest interference { impdiement } to my learning comes from my education'....A Einstein

No truer words have been spoken for many years now.  So many people thinking with their butts instead of their minds is not healthy for humanity.

Nuclear energy is not the long term solution for humanities energy needs.  Those who keep saying it is, are not thinking in wholistically comprehensive and long term. Seriously. Short { narrow mind } side-ness is rampant problem for humanity.

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@Yassine
Most everything that follows in this thread is short { narrow } sided, irrespective of relative truth.

Nation against nation, religion against religion, tribe against tribe is all a aggregate collection of narrow viewpoints, that, can only lead to the destruction of humanity on Earth.

The largest divide of differrence  is sexual. i.e. man { Xy }  <--><-->  woman { Xx }.

If man{ Pa-triarchy } were to ever become subservient to woman Ma-triarchy }, humanity would have greater chance of surival.

That approach's greatest difficult would be uniting the rich <--> poor divide.

The question is how to pull-humanity as united integral set, rather that push-humanity into united integral set.

Pulling-IN-ward is the path of least resistance.  Will man{ pusher } ever allow woman{ attracter//mass-attracter } to dominant the human landscape on more issues?

Woman { nurtures//integrates//pulls-together }

Man { pushes apart//disintegrates }



 



 


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1} so we see how #9 is likened to zero in last post { LINK }, via the casting out of nines, math procedures

2} 9 gluons should exist mathematically, yet  only eight gluons are manifest, that we know of,

3} we see that there exist 78 lines-of-relationhship that define one graviton//darklon quantum, as located within my  four level/line,  numerically sequential, toroidal pattern.

We also see how three sets of outer surface 2D  triangle is a subdivided 2D triangle { 4 triangles//tetrahedron } when we place the 4th point//node inside { internal } to it ergo;

1, 2, 4 with nuclear #3 --- 5, 7, 8 and nuclear #6 ---10, 11, 13 with nuclear #12 that leaves isolated {9}

....1......................5............7......................11..........13........................17.......19....................23.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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0...................................6....................................12....................................18...............................24..................inside toroidal tube
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|  |  | = profile form side of three subdivided triangles{ 12 points//nodes } that define a 3D tube having 36 surface lines-of-relationship

|  |  {9}  | = three subdivided triangles and the isolated and internal #9 point//node

|* |* {*} |* = three 2D triangles { not subdivided } and the four internal points//nodes{ * } with isolated {*}  #9

{0}..|* |* {*} |* = includes zero{ internal to overall tube } outside of this graviton//darkion as the complement to #9 inside the set and internal to graviton//darkion quantum as one section of longer//greater toroidal tube.
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@TwoMan
In your worldview, we are just biological machines programed by our preferences, environment, etc. with no ability to control our future. That is a very pessimistic outlook on human reality.
Correct. Biological or non-biological  stems from the exact same elements of Uni-V-erse.  Biologicals do not some special kind element that all other aspects of Nature//Uni-V-erse //Cosmos does not have.

Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo access to absolute and relalive truths s a synergetic resultant, as is biologic life.

Does the truth set us free? No, the truth does not set us free from the inviolate, finite set of cosmic laws//principle.

All free will illusion stems only from cause-and-effects of chemistry, atomic,  sub-atomic, gravity ( ) and dark energy )(.

"feelings" are chemistry, that we then the attempt to identify and label, via our access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/mind.

1} spirit-1 { spirit-of-intent }, ergo metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, ego and any concepts of Space, God, Feeliings, etc
...concepts of Space, not an actual Space,
occupied or not..

...........line of demarcation.............

2} spirit-2,occupied space fermions, bosons and any aggregate thereof,

3} spirit-3, occupied Space,  (  ) Gravity { mass-attractive } ---contractive Pulling-IN integerative phenomena,

4} spirit-4, occupied Space of )( Dark Energy { repulsive } --- disintegrating phenomena.

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Friendship ended with Drumpf. Now: Andrew Yang is my best friend
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@Wylted
Trumpanzees are the narccistic immorals of humanity.

The truth of the deplorables comment   hurts the Trumpanzees ego. 

Ego is the sleeping dragon, except in case of narcissist, whose ego never sleeps.

What does the narcissist dream?

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It doesn't matter who said it. Arguments stand or fall on their own wouldn't you agree ?
Sure, Please share where your above thought relates directly to any of my recent comments here or elsewhere.

So I will try my last reply once again, and see if you have a worthy relationship to it.
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Clarity can reside in the observer//beholder as much the presenter//source.

I think your and others problem with more comprehensive wholistic thinking,  may stem from the following.

......"The only thing that interferes ---impediment--  with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....

One has to drop the ego and precondition beliefs.  Become and open vessel on a stream of consciousness, that, goes places you've never been before or places you've been, missed the underlying nature of the scenery.

I'm an explorer who 'dares to be naive'.  Fuller quote "dare to be naive".

I truly desire to know truth via the putting in order the facts of my experience, and the speculation ---extrapolate outward---   what may stem from those experiences or be associated with those experiences.

I forget who it was that once said I was a master of association.

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Friendship ended with Drumpf. Now: Andrew Yang is my best friend
If all you just said was not true...why did that infamous "deplorable" comment, which rallied record amounts of rural voters to get out and vote, have such a profound impact on the 2016 election?
Because truth often hurts the ego. 

Ego is the sleeping dragon, except in case of narccist, whose ego never sleeps.

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That may be the clearest post I've ever gotten from this account. Who are you and what have you done with the real ebuc?
Clarity can reside in the observer//beholder as much the presenter//source.

I think your and others problem with more comprehensive wholistic thinking,  may stem from the following.

......"The only thing that interferes ---impediment--  with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....

One has to drop the ego and precondition beliefs.  Become and open vessel on a stream of consciousness, that, goes places you've never been before or places you've been, missed the underlying nature of the scenery.

I'm an explorer who 'dares to be naive'.  Fuller quote "dare to be naive".

I truly desire to know truth via the putting in order the facts of my experience, and the speculation ---extrapolate outward---   what may stem from those experiences or be associated with those experiences.

I forget who it was that once said I was a master of association.

'Science is the putting in order the facts of our experiences', I believe, is a Fuller quote, but he may have been paraphrasing the best definition he had heard of what science is. 
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@secularmerlin
That may be the clearest post I've ever gotten from this account. Who are you and what have you done with the real ebuc?
Clarity is in the eye of the beholder. Ive always been available to any who need assistance in finding clarity where they see none.

SM, this following may relate to your problems finding clarity with any of my comments.

......"The only thing that interferes --impediment-- with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....

I think you, you and others, will have to place to the side, all of your preconditioning to allow in a more wholistically comprehensive set of scenarios as related to Uni-V-erse and all of its locally integral parts.

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@secularmerlin
Can you demonstrate freewill?
No, only the really good illusion of free will.  Ive been very clear on this issue for some 20 years now.

Fullers states is this way Free will is limited at best ex there exist limits what a pilot can free will a plane to do, to get out of in-ward spiral towards Earth.

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Prime Toroidal Universe of Number Patterns
1} In Fullers book Synergetics 1 and 2 he mentions how calculations done by hand in old days were double checked/verified or done quicker by using by the "crossing-out of nines procedure ergo it it became apparrent to Fuller that #9 and non-counting #0 are intimately correlated,

...."BUT WAIT! See LINK Sometime during the development of this condensation trick, someone, blesstheir soul, found out that adding 9, or any combination of digits whichadd to nine, does not influence a digit sum.
Ex: The digit sum of 34 is 7.

Now let's add the digit 9 to make43. Its digit sum is 4+3=7, so we have another digit sum of 7.Adding that 9 did not change the digit sum.
Nowlet's add several combinations of numbers which add to nine and somemore nines to the 34: 34+2+7+4+5+9+9=70. Notice the new digit sum isSTILL 7.
Quitefrankly, they found that you can add as many nines or, combinationsof numbers that add to nine, as you want, and it wontchange the digit sum.
Takea look at 543,994. Here we get 5+4+3+9+9+4=34. And then 3+4=7. Againwe arrive at a digit sum of 7.
ellif nines don't change a digit sum, then by golly, let's just assign a value of ZERO to them and forget aboutthem, or shall we say CAST THEM OUT of the digit sum completely!
Itbecomes lightning FAST to find the digit sums of most numbers once youare good at CASTING OUT THOSE NINES."...

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The Cosmic Trinity
Correcting the former

3 fundamental kinds of quark ergo 18 flavors{ 3 * 6 }

3 fundamental kinds of anti-quark ergo 18 flavors{ 3 * 6 }  totals 36 flavors of quark { 3 * 12 } in Uni-V-erse.
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3D = 3 spatial dimensions aka XYZ or as abc.

3 polyhedral aspects lines/edge/vectors, points/vertexes/crossings, surface/openings/planes

Dynamic doubling 3 to 6, as 6 cosmic motions;

1} spin,

2} torque { twist },

3} precession --most often at 90 degrees too--,

4} expansion-contraction,

5} inside-outing,

6} orbit

Minimal enclosure is 2D tri-angle and, is the minimal unitary integrity of Uni-V-erse

Bilateral Momma { Xx }  IN-seminated by Bilateral Poppa { Xy }

......v.......momma Pops Outward via pulling IN-ward contractions

( * )( * ) >>> ME { OUT-ward bound local and complex consciousness newbie

123 ABC, thats how easy Uni-V-erse can be.






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@secularmerlin
Religion is a tool box for everyday life-mechanics and has a moral integrity set.

Philosophy is bubble gum for the mind to ponder and may appear to be chaotic random, disorderly mess, at times.

Scientific methodology puts in order the facts of our experiences.




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@Fallaneze
Free will isn't a "feeling" it's an intellectual "seeming" that we have control over our decisions. So is there any difference between the way humans make decisions and the way robots or computers make decisions?
Yes, they are differrent pathways, yet they are both  technological procedures that stem, only from cause-and-effects of chemistry, atomic,  sub-atomic, gravity ( ) and dark energy )(.

"feelings" are chemistry, that we then the attempt to identify and label, via our access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/mind.


1} spirit-1 { spirit-of-intent }, ergo metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, ego and any concepts of Space, God, Feeliings, etc
...concepts of Space, not an actual Space,
occupied or not..

...........line of demarctaion.............

2} spirit-2,occupied space fermions, bosons and any aggregate thereof,

3} spirit-3, occupied Space,  (  ) Gravity { mass-attractive } ---contractive Pulling-IN integerative phenomena,

4} spirit-4, occupied Space of )( Dark Energy { repulsive } --- disintegrating phenomena.




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Terrorists are the true 'invaders' of any civilized peoples.

Unnecessary closing of USA government for 5 weeks may be the mildest act of terrorism.

Trump, like so many seeming free marketers, have done much to destroy democracy in USA.

No and attack on moral integrity.


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@oromagi
The Moon may prove a desirable dump for nuclear waste if we significantly ramp up production.
Ha, yeah that is the approach Fuller took. He stated that we should ship nuclear wastes {ionizing radiation } back to the sun, which is where it came from.

Humans are so short sided ---except in the case of Mutually Assured Destrution being temporarily and only partially dealt with--- that we will not cease to exist on Earth in 2000 - 5000 years if not sooner.

Nuclear waste is just one huge problem of nuclear industry.

More nukes means more hydrogen bombs on Earth via nation against nation mentality.

Nuclear power may become safer in short term, but more of them increases chances of nuclear exposure in future and especially so when we consider what hackers can do plus many other potential scenarios that leaves these nukes sitting around not being maintain in future years.

Humans are basically  barbarians and short sided{ narrow minded }.

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@Greyparrot
F...
When all else fails just F....

After oxygen, water and nutrition comes F....

F.. in the rain, in the cold,  in the heat etc.

A good F.. between consenting adults is the bottom line to many situations.

Men just need a place { Space }, women need a reason { metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concept }.

Narrcist Trump does not have friends, he has people he uses as long as they are loyal to him and him alone.

If your loyal to USA, then your not Trumps friend.



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@keithprosser
It does involve having to think about what a 'self' is.
Access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept and ego.

Spirit-of-intent is the illusion of free will being manifest as the steering our ego or vice-versa.

Access to metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts are a  resultant of occupied space interactions{ interference } not the other way around.

Nothing,--- whether as metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space or metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts and ego,  creating something{ occupied space } is irrational, illogical lack of common sense { non-sense }.

........."The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....




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Prime Toroidal Universe of Number Patterns
Ok, so di-pryamid { <> or as <|> } as graviton//darkion needs to be altered to fit into my geodesic, prime numerical inverting torus scenario.

We must truncate the di-pyramid on two of its diametrically opposing ends, Doing so now gives us three triangle openings just like the central middle-girth triangle.

Now we have a tube, as defined by three triangles --ergo 9 points//vertexes//nodes--- and to have a quanta, then we have to have closure of the two ending triangles.

Those nine points on my numerical torus are the outer and inner surface points, 1, 2, 4 --- 5, 7, 8 --- 10, 11, 13. See in pattern that follows.

.....1......................5............7......................11..........13........................17.......19....................23.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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................3.....................................9.........................................15.................................21.................................inside toroidal tube
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So these 9 points ---3, 3, 3--  have 9 surface, lines-of-relationship.  However, we also have internal { body } criss-crossing, lines-of-relationship
ship between the two ending sets of 3-points and that is an additional 9 body lines-of-relationship. Total 18. Or is it? See Fullers formula below.

Next I also consider the number { points//nodes } 3, 6, 9 and 12, inside { the body } my toroidal tube that fall between 1 and 13.

So this is total of 9 { surface } points//nodes + 4 internal { body } points//nodes and that totals as 13 points//nodes.

So we use Fullers lines-of-relationship formula to discover the number of relationships n^2 - n, divided by 2. see LINK

So 9^2 = 81.  81 - 9 = 72.  72 / 2 = 36 --twice as many as my given 18 above--   and there exists 36 kinds { flavor//aggregates } of quark. 18 quark and 18 anti-quark.

And those internal set as 4^2 = 16.  16 - 4 = 12.  12 / 2 = 6 is internal-only, body-only, lines-of-relationship.

However, exponentially { synergetically? } we get a larger number than just those two above added.

13^2 = 169.  169 - 13 = 156.  156 / 2 = 78 lines-of-relationship.

78, minus  36-lines-of-relationship, leaves 42-{ internal body }- lines-of-relationship.

The above numbers are new to me, so have not drawn any other conclusions, however, if want to get back to gravition//darkion as an integral quantum unit, then I believe we need to introduce that the dynamic idea of closure.

So I see the internal 4 points//nodes as being a integral, quanta-pulse-resultant of the contraction  of a triangle set 1, 2, 3,,then as expansion as 5, 7, 8 and closure of  10, 11, 13. However we have one extra point//node not acounted for. Pu that unaccounted node//point to the side for the moment and consider the following.

If we want to consider Jacob Bekensteins concluding thoughts ..."we appear to 2D creatures having an illusion of 3D"...  then we express the above as follows;

1, 2, 3 points//nodes exist and  have internal #4 node//point ergo we have subdivide triangle with 6 lines-of-relationship and this is the same as  a 3D tetrahedron that is now just flattened into seemingly 2D and as it moves forward over time, it expands as 5, 7, 8, with internal #6, then contracts again as 10, 11 13 with internal #12.

Ok, except #9 is apparrently left out of this pulsating, 2D-only, quantum scenario. What the heck is going on!

.....1......................5............7......................11..........13........................17.......19....................23.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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Two things come to mind.

1} In Fullers book Synergetics 1 and 2 he mentions how calculations done by hand in old days were double checked/verified or done quicker by using by the "crossing-out of nines procedure ergo it it became apparrent to Fuller that #9 and non-counting #0 are intimately correlated,

2} with the strong sub-nuclear gluonic force{ gluons }, we mathematically have 9 possible flavors//kinds of gluon but only 8 are manifest.

Leave the above at that for consideration, for now.












 


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@Lernaean
Does it occur in nature? If so, then it is natural. The definition of "natural" does not make an appeal to religion, so there is no need to use any theological reasoning. 
Sure got that right.

All humans have holy { divine } spirit-1 { metaphysical-1 } and,

a wholy{ integrated } spirit-2 { occupied space aggregate collection of as fermions and bosons }

God { ess }-ence is the graviton and occupies space as ultra-micro ---ergo hyper-dimension-like--- geodesic positive curvature of Space.

However, the graviton has a dual nature and the other part of that nature is dark energy --geodesically negative Space--  ergo we have a graviton//darkion as the essence of Nature//God///Uni-V-erse//Cosmos.












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Trump says planes are too complicated. No Trumpanzee, your brain is too complicated for your ego. That is your problem.

Trying to teach Trump rational, logical common sense is like trying to teach an old dog new tricks and in addition, this dog as nacrrcistic ego problem.

Remmber when Trump tried to put his personap plane captain in as head of chief-of FAA.

Yeah, well then they found out that Trumps plane was not legally registered and who was responsible for that error, His captain.

Trump loves to encourage the radical extremmist violent hate groups by using words like 'invaders' when refering to immigrants.

The true invaders are the irrational, illogical lack of common sense Trumpanzees who encourage unnecessary hate and violence against innnocent peoples of Earth. See recent New Zealand shooter as just one example.


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@3RU7AL
Imagine you are running a temperature of 38.611 degrees (101.5 F).
Imagination is not common to all people here at DArt.

Now imagine that a doctor tells you that your temperature will continue to rise until you do something about it. You might think, I'm not dead, I can probably cope, but pretty soon you will be bed ridden and unable to drive to get help.
Yeah, imagine that is like telling you need to loose weight an that will help with the fever, so we need to shed a billion or two peoples, or at least not add another 2 billion any time soon.

All of the 60]s predictions of the global population had to be revised in the 90's, to 1 billion less people, for two reasons;

1} Chinas began there 1 child per family policy, and,

2} so many in Africa were dying from AIDs.

Bucky Fullers world grid idea requires no batteries, and it connects the day and night side of the planet, ergo, the amount of energy we have on Earth is doubled immediately, just by the night side wind and hydro sending energy to the day side that needs it most.

Duhh.  Wind power requires not batteries.

Duhh. Hydro requires no batteries.

Duhh. Solar feeding into the world grid requires not batteries.

Why is it so many humans cannot think outside of a shoe box of limitations.

....'the greatest interference { impdiement } to my learning comes from my education'....A Einstein

No truer words have been spoken for many years now.  So many people thinking with their butts instead of their minds is not healthy for humanity.

Nuclear energy is not the long term solution for humanities energy needs.  Those who keep saying it is, are not thinking in wholistically comprehensive and long term. Seriously. Short { narrow mind } side-ness is rampant problem for humanity.
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@Greyparrot
The earth has finite land and a finite capacity for any species of life.
OMG, youve finally made a rational, logical common sense statement GP.

Pretty soon you may even be able to grasp the rational, logical sense Bru7al has been sharing here for quite some time now.

Imagine that. A world where people actually speak to each other in rational, logical common sense ways and there ego does not block out truth.

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@TwoMan
Yes it is. The state of the universe at a given point in time "A" causes me to consider options by reasoning with my subjective human mind "B" which causes me me to take an action "C". Cause and effect intact, a choice was made as per the definition of free will.
No it is not Twoman, your just taking in circular loops now that meangingless mind games.

Cause and effect are not free choice nor do they lead to  free will choice.

I'm certain just as Einstein was certain God does not play dice.  Heisenberg uncertainty principle is just our lack of;

1} quantising of utlra-micro gravity (  ), and, dark energy )(,

2} never having  an accounting of the ultra-high number of complex set of relationships that, are all related ---irrespective of how indirectly---   to any single event, or seeming choice, phenomena { illusion of choice }.

An ultra { extremely } good illusion, is still an illusion.

Uncertainty of mind does not necessitate chaos.  Knowing that an order exists is similar to those religious people who say, you just just have faith.

We have faith that there does exist an eternal order { integrity }, that,  is eternally inviolate.

Structural and systemic integrity rules our finite, occupied space Uni-V-erse of eternal transformations.

Overall, within a finite occupied space Uni-V-erse, naught is lost or created, and that is a cosmic integrity.

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@Alec
I favor the moon due to it's extreme closeness to Earth relative to Mars's distance from Earth
No. This is another example of how short side humanity is.

Those in 1800's who dreamed of going to the moon were called lunatics.

Colonizing the moon is modern day lunacy. 

Taking care of the ecological environment that sustains all humans here on Earth needs to be the priority. Duhh, humanity is going to realize after its too late.  True, humanity  pulled back form Mutual Assured Destruction { M.A.D. } in the late 80s' early 1990's.  So yes, humanity sometimes can begin to operate from a mind-first,...'what is best for humanity'...states of global consciousness.


..."It's welcome news that the UCS has taken this small step towards recognizing the value of low-carbon nuclear power. It would be even better if the activist group would also come around to advocating the rapid development and deployment of new safer nuclear power generation technologies, such as molten salt thorium reactors, small modular reactors, and traveling wave reactors."...

Again, short term solution, is not the long term, answer to humanities long term survival, with least amount of suffering most humanscurrently on Earth.

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@Alec
D-Pirate---renewable incentives that are biased in favor of wind and solar and biased against large-scale hydro, nuclear and gas combined cycle are a very expensive and inefficient way to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.
The French love all things technical.

..."Today, France has 59 nuclear reactors providing about 78% of its electricity. It is also the leading exporter of nuclear energy in the EU. One might say France took a huge gamble and it appears it won big"...at least in the short term. In long term, a comprehensive, mind-forward first approach, is not what humanity best known for,


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@TwoMan
We certainly appear to be making choices. Every human on earth experiences the phenomenon of making choices. Are you certain that making a choice is an illusion?
Yes I. certain just as Einstein was certain God does not play dice.  Heisenberg ncertainty principle is just our lack of;

1} quantising of utlra-micro gravity (  ) and dark energy )(,

2} ever having having an accounting of the ultra-high number of complex set of relationships that all related ---irrespective of how indirectly---   any single event, or seeming choice, phenomena { illusion of choice }.

A ultra { extrremely } good illusion, is still an illusion.

Uncertainty of mind does not necessitate chaos.  Knowing that and order exists is similar to those religious people who say to just have faith.

We have faith that there does exist an eternal order { integrity }, that is eternally inviolate.

Structural and systemic integrity rules our finite, occupied space Uni-V-erse of eternal transformations.

Overall within a finite occupied space Uni-V-erse, naught is lost or created and that is a cosmic integrity.





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God { ess }-ence is the graviton and my explorations conclude, that, the graviton has both Gravity { gravitonic ] and Dark Energy { darkion } properties//aspects.

Putting aside the specific dynamic shapes that we may presume accompany all occupied space I use Euclidean simplification to present the topology of what shape we can assign to the Graviton//Darkion.

Most recently Ive tried to take an older concept I never developed much and apply it to my newer prime number torus as defined by a four level line numerical sequence in regards to the shape of the graviton//darkion.

I believe the graviton//darkion is associated with the shape of truncated { on two ends } di-pyramid i.e. two tetrahedron sharing a common triangle. See LINK

The link above is not a truncated di-pyramid. By truncating a di-pyramid in two ends we create three triangle openings ---i.e. 9 points//vertexes//nodes--  ergo, a tube, and I believe to be one tubular section of my numerical torus.

However, in introducing some dynamic activity to this truncated di-pyramid scenario and the exact reason why we have a seemingly finite quanta iis having these three triangles expand-contract in a such a fashion so as to create a pulse a unit-of-wave. <><><><><><><>

More details of this di-pyramid the next post.
 


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@Greyparrot

Yeah, nuclear power is sad butt-forward way into the future when a comprehensive wholistic view is considered.

Chernyoble containment shelter is stainless steel and the hope is it will last 100 years with no maintennace  

They used stainless steel for the containment shelter, because, there is no way workers could go inside to prep, prime and repaint interior steel while being radiated.

Believe this following quote and the author will tell you many more of the same.

...." The question is not how humans can gain absolute mastery, since that’s impossible, but rather which machines, on balance, deliver the most good with the least harm. On that metric, nuclear power has always been, inherently, the safest way to power civilization."...


This above authors view attempts short term balance and lacks long term, comprehensive considerations. 
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Obama orders regulatory review

..."First, power plant owners must put in place the resources and implement the procedures required to keep a reactor’s core cool in the event a power plant's emergency electricity supply is knocked out. Similar procedures and resources must be adopted to keep fuel rod pools, where a power plant stores its radioactive waste, full of water, following any event that knocks out all of a plant’s emergency power supplies.
The inability to keep the reactor cores cool at Daiichi, once power was knocked out and emergency power packs drained, resulted in the meltdowns in Japan.

....Second, the power plants must install equipment that can reliably measure the water levels at the pools used to house and cool a power plant's spent fuel rods.

Fuel rods are used to generate heat and electricity at a nuclear power plant. When they are used up, but still highly radioactive, they have to be stored underwater for several years in pools, before being dried and stored on site in giant concrete casks. There they will stay until a permanent waste facility is built to house the fuel rods indefinitely. No national site has been built to house commercial waste from any power plant, so most of the waste is stored locally at the power plant.

..Third, the rule requires the power plants to “reserve the resources” required to protect the core and spent fuel pools from external hazards that may breach the plant’s walls and containment areas."....





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......"The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education"....A Einstein....

Our finite, occupied space reality{ Observed Time } is based on, or associated with, the self-stabilizing trinary set as follows;

0, 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21, 24, 27, 30, 33, 36 etc. see two lines inside inferred, toroidal tube below, as occupied space reality{ Observed Time }

Ex 3 fundamental kinds of electron, quark neutrino and 3 kinds of anti-electron, quark and neutrino.

.....1......................5............7......................11..........13........................17.......19....................23.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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Here below is another way to view the above inferred torus as (  ) Space - vTime^ - Space )(

---------(  ) Gravitational Space via positive outer surface curvature of torus (  )-----------------------
.........................incoming photon..v..at top peak of wave...........
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Observed Time aka reality inside torus tube
..........................incoming photon...^...at bottom peak of wave................
----------)( Dark Energy Space via negative inner surface curvature of torus )(----------------------------

In this latter set above we may begin to consider scenario to explain how radiation{ photon } is a constant speed irrespective of the observers speed.

What is important to realize in the above is that our reality is resultant of the inversions  --photonic in the above scenario--- from peak of positive Gravitational (  )  curvature and peak of negative )( Dark Energy curvature.

Here is another trinary set to consider as seen in  first previous set of four lines level above on this page.

1, 3, 4--> this sum-total set of six integers is only set with a shared nuclear prime number{ 3 }
2, 3, 5 ---> and is also the only trinary set of prime numbers and the only set of 4{ tetrahedral } prime numbers in the hexagonal set

4, 6, 7
5, 6, 8

7, 9, 10
8, 9, 11

11, 12, 14
10, 12, 13

13, 15, 16
14, 15, 17

17, 18, 20
16, 18, 19

19, 21, 22
20, 21 23

23, 24, 26
22, 24, 25---> this is the first trinary set that has no prime number and instead has number 25

So above we have 15 trinary lines that have a prime number.
And we have 7 hexagonal sets of that contain a prime number.

However, remmeber that 25 is composed of 5 prime number fives{ 5 } 5 * 5
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Lets look again a these quasi-helical, irregular hexagonal sets and remmeber that this pattern of positions  is as if,  we are inside the 3D tube and see this repeating, overlapping, seemingly 2D hexagonal pattern approaching us

.....1.....................5P............7P.................11P.......13P.....................17P.......19P..............23P.......25..............outer peak positive surface
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................3P...................................9....................................15...............................21................................27....inside toroidal tube
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0, ..1, ..5P,... 6, ..4, ...2P with nuclear 7th position as 3P

..3P, 5P, .7P,.. .9, ..8,.... 4 with nuclear  7th position as 6

.....6, ..7P, 11P, .12, .10, ...8  with a nuclear 7th position as 9 

.......9, ..11P, 13P, .15, .14, 10 with a nuclear 7th position as 12

.......12,..13P,...17P,..18....16,..14 with a nuclear 7th position as 15

..........15,.17P,...19P,....21,...20,...16 with a nuclear 7th position as 18

.............18,.19P, ..23P,.. 24,.. 22, ...20 with a nuclear 7th position as 21

................21,.23P,..25,......27,...26,....22 with a nuclear 7th position as 24


24 = 3 * 8 or 4 * 6 or 2 *12

25 = Phi-ration five times
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@3RU7AL
I think the $100,000.00 a year was for a married couple with 3 kids, a nice house, yearly family vacations, college tuition for the kids and savings for a comfortable retirement.  Also known as, "the American Dream".
Ok, that does help to explain.

..."The median annual household income worldwide is $9,733, and the median per-capita household income is $2,920, according to new Gallup metrics.".....

Bru7al, what is the differrence between" household income" and "median per-capita"? Is that a couple vs a single person?

I.. women make less than $2,920 and men make more than $2,920 ergo the average between those two?



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@n8nrgmi
so what is your theory as to why the earth is getting hotter?
Greenhouse Effect{ 1970 - 1985 > Global Warming { 1985- 2000 } > Erratic Climate Change { 2000 - 2020 } >

.........Idiots On Board { 2020 - 2050 cattle industry banned } >

.........What the Hell Is Happening { 2050 - 2125 Crazies Begin to Disintegrate } >

.........Kiss Our Ass Goodbye { 2125 - 3000 } and Sane people begin to disintegrate >

.........Methane Released from Bottom of Oceans { 3000 - 4000 } and Fires rage over all oceans >

........Radical Ideas Introduced { 4000 - 5000 } Ex Attempts to Freeze  the Oceans

7.2 billion people { and increasing } along with their 2-cycle petroleum{ the worst } engines > 4-cylce petroleum { nearly-as- bad } engines.

Coal? Seriously?  Fracking { Oklahoma has some resultant experience }
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@3RU7AL
I think it's about $100,000.00 per year in the U.S.A.
OMG, that seems high to me.  Ive gotten by on much less all of my life.

If we could do get single payer health care, do away with insurance scam, and get ridiculous cost of pharmacutical scam much lower, then we have taken care of tome of the hightest cost.

Humanity has so much of systems on ass-backwards creating unnecessary costs. Its an inherently self-inflating system that has no concern for the ecological environment that sustains us all.

The free market is rigged against do those necessary things for humanity to survive i.e. profit as primary concern is butt-backwards.

Unnecessary rich is butt-backwards.



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@Outplayz
Humans have the capacity to imagine the impossible and manifest it to a degree. I find that interesting. 
If it is inviolate impossible cosmic law//principle, then it is never ever manifiest to any degree.

Thetr does not existm and never will, to any degree, more than five, regular//symmetrical and convex polyhedra of our one, finite, Uni-V-erse

SPACE (>*<)  (>*<) SPACE

SPACE ( Time }  i  ( Time ) SPACE

SPACE (><)  ego  (><) SPACE

...1......................5P.........7P................11P........13P..................17P......19P......Occupied Space Gravity (  )

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.............3P..................................9..................................15.............................,,.Occupied Space Time
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......2P.............4......................8......10......................14........16...........................Occupied Space Dark Energy )(



0, 1, 5P, 6, 4, 2, = hexagon and nuclear 3P

3P, 5P, 7P, 9, 8, 4 = hexagon and nuclear 6

6, 7P, 11P, 12, 10, 8 and nuclear 9

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@Greyparrot
The government does not fund Boeing retardo.
Come back and talk to me when you have something of significant relevance to add to this topic as presented.

You do not because you have not such any significantly relevant comments to add.

Read my lips//text and disregard your irrelevant and tangental asides that try and distract from Trumpanzees failure to exhibit any moral integrity.

Sad :--( as per your usual.  Now even Mitt Rommney has stopped likin Trumps butt long enough to come around to this common sense.

Take a hike you Trumpanzee and dont come back til you want exhibit any shred of moral integrity.
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Trumps USA unnecessary shutdown kills 350 people because of 5 weeks stall on implementing Boeings fix to its 737.

Thank you once again narcissistic, lying Trump and your friggin nacrccisitic, Trumpanzee lying butt lickin followers.

Elaine Chao needs to ground all Boeing 737's now, as most of the Earths rational, logical common sense countries have done.

Who here at DArt voted for Trump?  My Mom--- 'I have a bone to pick with you'. 

Or as my mother also said, 'your on my s___ list'.

Frustrating is putting it lightly,  the way I feel, toward these ass-on-backwards Trumpanzees.
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@Alec
I've posted a lot of right wing stuff on this site.  It's time I posted something left wing.
I.e. youve posted and agreed with alot of stupid banana-republic stuff, and now your posting and agreeing with some rational, logical common sense stuff that many of us been encouraging for 50 years or more.

Glad to see you finally get in the wake of the rational, logical common sense cannabis//weed ship.



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@3RU7AL
Approximately 24.5% of people who work the hardest (or get lucky) have a chance of rising to the top.
And that is of the 400 who made it there.

For every 400 that make it to Forbes top, there exist, hundreds-of-millions{?}  that do not?

And which morals do we have forego, or tweak, to make it to the Forbes top?

TIger Woods ex-wife stated that ..'money does not bring you happiness, it just makes things easier'. Ex, in her case to carry-on divorce procedings via traveling between her home in Scandanvia and Tiger in US.

Somewhere around here or elsewhere I saw some amount that is all that is really needed to live a nice 1st world country standard -of-living but dont recall how much that was. The point being more money is not needed.


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@Alec
Every sex has their advantages and disadvantages.
Anyone who actually reads my comments in these regards, know that Ive never stated otherwise.

That woman is more complex does not necessarily man wholistically  better than man.

However, as Ive made succintly clear in previous posts, there exist all female animals, that, make cloned reproduction of themselves.

Having a male introduces biodiviersity other than random mutations and epigenetics.

There exist no  all male species because male inherently does not give birth because they do not have the equipment to do so.

So does that make the more complex female animal more complex? Maybe it does. It surely makes possible a better chance of survival of any specific species.

I.e with all female there is a greater chance of the species living on. Not possible with all male. 


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D-Pirate---as he said if climate change is settled why do they continue to study it?

Because of the clue-less like yourself. Climate dynamics are always changing.

As new data comes in we can better tweak the forecasts. This is common for everyday weather and for long term climate.

You need to educate yourself as you appear to be new to this topic whereas many of us have been paying attenstion to this issue for 40 years or more.

Glad to see you finallly showing and interest to at least ask a question.


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