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By "intelligence" i am indicating a human type intelligence and above. Is that the kind of intelligence you are referring to as well?

As I said, any position

You excluded  death as a natural phenomena and comes to all biologicals/souls.

Biological/soul life does not exist without decay/death/entropy.

Entropy of black holes SPACE-Time may be the release of all RNA-DNA coding into some galaxys.

The proton is the only{?} fermionic particle that is not known to have a specific and natural rate of decay, if left alone?

History proves in no uncertain terms that your approach to poverty has been tried dozens and dozens of times in dozens and dozens of countries throughout the world over hundreds and hundreds of years.

Your confused as per your usual as Ive offered no "approach" other than a spiritual/moral basis of one-for-all and all-for-one.

And this is the basis for global humanity and the ecological environment that sustains them.

Your conclusions are all based on state/countries that are not and cannot be isolated from outside influences.


>< = dumb-bell approach of greater divides between rich and poor will only lead to demise of humanity.

<> = octahedral based fat middle class with least amount of poor and rich at two ending points.

Comparing Argentina to a global solution is kinda of short sighted aka narrow minded.  Global problems require global solutions and global ways of thinking. Sorry Sadolite, you just dont seem to grasp the evolution of humanity is headed.

The universe is relative.

The occupied space,  parts that compose our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe are relative.

Finite Universe as a whole has not other occupied space to be relative too.  Relativity requires twoness.

At best we can our finite, Universe is embraced/surround by macro-infinite non-occupied space.

Ergo we can express this latter set in various ways .......O...........

Where Universe = O and the dots represent macro-infinite non-occupied space.

I prefer a  more comprehensive expression that is inclusive of the Cosmic Trinity and bilateral consciousness;

....SPACE{>*<)   i  (>*<)SPACE.....

Cosmic Trinity

1) eternally existent, spirit-1, { spirit-of-intent }, metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ex concepts of God, Universe, Concepts etc,

-------------------------line of demarcation------------------------------------

2} metaphysical-2, eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied space,

3} spirit-2, eternally existent, macro-infinite, occupied space Universe.

These are simple set to grasp yet so few so any ability to comprehend them. Its and ego problem in most cases.

Examples and ideas like that make me favor ID. In regards to abiogenesis however... i am ambivalent. It could have happened naturally in some freak amazing occurrence, or was set in motion by something else. The something else is just more attractive in my opinion but i don't discount the latter as maybe being the case too.  

There is intelligent design only insofar as there exist eternally existent phenomena inherent to high pressures found in Universe.

HIgher pressures lead to more fro less complex molecules to more  complex molecules.

Highest pressures of gravitational forces of Universe may be the most likely cosmic egg that contains SPACE-Time coding of most complex RNA-DNA molecules we know to exist, human female > male.

See this link to see potential for coding of all existence in left and right handed versions via high frequency { 1, 2, 3, 4 sets }  axis spinning to generate great circle/torus patterns all within one triangle.

What exists inside a black hole is expressed on its event horizon and black holes evaporate. 

Is a self-replicating molecule "alive"?

Is a self-replicating virus "alive"?

...ok then

He didn't stop it.

I responded to hot air with hot air humor.  Please share when you have any rational, logical common sense that invaldidates any of my givens, as stated.

You do not because you, lie others have not to share. More hot air bag is what you have to offer.

There exists no direct evidence of biological/soul life coming from where there was none via synergetic effect of molecules of early Earth or by  humans.

The truth exists for those seek it, those who dont, and those who scoff at it. 

Stop it.

Just as I thought you have nada to offer that invalidates anything ive presented.

Hot air "stop it"  bag is what, Gee thanks for your intellectual insight of "stop it".

Maybe you turn it into a M. Jackson type tune, jus stop bop, boop, stop itttt, stop ittt, oh stop it boop boop.

Sorry I dont have any musical note texticons to associate to my words above.

Ugh. Is this ebuc?

Ugh, yes human. When you have anything to share that invalidates any of my givens, as stated, Please share.

MagicAintReal unless it is not understood. Until then it may appear as magic to all all humans.

Biological/soul is magical. Access to metaphysical-1,  mind/intellect/concepts is magical.

Syntropy over entropy is magical.

Mass-attraction is magical.

There exists tons of magical stuff, depending who the observer is specifically.

Magic aint real, but we observe the resultant affects of seemingly magical stuff we do not comprehend wholey yet.

Ugh, human.  Ugh, to the stream of consciousness we each experience, interprete and may have differrent perceptions of.

Both population control and raising the standard need to be done at the same time, otherwise you are just chasing your tail.

China did that. The 1960 projections of global population by such and such a year was lowered from 10 billion, because of two reasons{ this was 15 or so years ago info };

1} Chinas one child policy - --not still as strict now-- and,

2} AIDS/HIV in Africa.

I'm not  against population control. I'm  for humanity becoming educated on the issue and propositions to deal with.

You gave one or more and I gave one or more.

These are factors that need to be fed into a computer, as we do with complex global climate scenarios in future.

Fuller started the world game back in 60's.  How to make the world work. Energy resources >< people resources.

All in  moderation.  That is why M.A.D was addressed by the 1990s and reduction of hydrogen bombs on Earth and 24 hr bombers in the sky.

So then i will go back to what I said before because your example really bolsters population control due to the limited resource, water.

To which I replied specifically. The higher the standarfd of living for a person the less off-spring they should have.

You have yet to see this rational, logical conclusion.

Give poor more lights and they will spend less time in the bed. Duhh!

The wind is always blowing somewhere on the planet. Connect day and night sides of the planet so those winds on night side of planet can be shipping the electric power to the active sunny side of planet. We double the amount available to sunny side.

People with higher standard of living have easier access to birth control. Duhh!

The country or leaders and enjoin the greatest community of such believers will inherit spiritual hope of all for one and one for all far beyond that every seen on Earth.  Imagine.  Is it hard to do?   See Earth as spiritual hope of our galaxy for we do not know if will ever occur here again.

Better to die trying than to not have tried at all. Better to have loved and lived than to have not loved and not live at all.

Better to die for life than to kill for it.  It is the highest path ergo the hardest of higher teachings to attain.

We loose a part of our biological/soul when we become fire, to fight fire.  Someone is likely to get burned in both scenarios.

No one's proposing spontaneous generation and you need to be honest and know that.

Asians and Indians out preform all others even when they start out with absolutely nothing.  They have solved the problem for poverty for their own and others can as well, if they choose to....

Most Asian and Indian have not solved issues of poverty. You are in error/mistaken.

Those two groups alone represent fair amount of humanity.

Obviously your perception of poverty is not synonymous{sp?} with mine. 

No surprises, there, as that is what philosophers debate over. Words/terms and their meanings.

Poverty relative our individual nation and poverty relative all of humanity is going to have fair amount of variance.

If water is bad,-ex flint Michigan, India, their town, the next town over---  then it will take effort make finances flow to finding good water.

Clean water is so basic and how much of humanity does not have access to clean water?

Regulation are those who supposed to be paying attention that. If government is not overseeing then yes corporate need to step, in assist, not say regulation toward clean water is bad.

We teach children how to read, we need to clean affordable water for them. 

Education, higher standard of livings help moderate the rate of humanities growth.  Higher standard helps to keep the lights on ergo out of bed getting stuff done  --communicating on the net--- ergo education via the net.

Emapthy not entropy.  Syntropy for all and all for syntropy.   Divided we fall.  Biodiversity is complex ergo we need fast computers and educated people to help solve and  save humanity  from ignorance and a doomed ecological environment.

Seems to me that the higher standard of living the more voluntarily those people should be to have less children and get then they get  all that much more for themselves.   Power to the person and their own individual position of power.

The less powerful will inherit the nooks, crannies and cracks that trickle out the water ergo biological  wealth, since we are 75% water.

Saw like a ten year genious girl who saw article in Scientific American regarding molecules of hydrogen and carbon. After much trial and errrow she invented relatively simple hand held too to tell if drinking water is safe to drink.

2. Life came to Earth from elsewhere.

3. Life on Earth came from lifelessness.

There isn't a real divide between those who believe in gravity and those who don't.

Actuall there kind of is three or  more kinds of people in regards to gravity:

1} gravity via gravitonic/quanta force  ---boson if ever observed-- t hat is mass-attractive ergo pulling-INward force,

2} gravity as pushing-INward force{ ? } if ever observed,

3} gravity as geometric shape of space, ergo not a force,

4} ? other

Darwinst may be considered simple-to-complex evolution only. They do not even consider complex-to-simple evolution. They may consider lateral evolution with no change in complexity.

It may be that there exists cosmic eggs, ---ex black holes--   within an eternally existent, finite, occupied SPACE Universe, that contains the the most complex RNA-DNA coding for humans and all others are derived from that coding. Ive laid out some of the basics for such scenarios.

There was a lady scientist who attempted to recreate what happens with pressures created by metor impact on various chemical molecules found on Eearlier Earth.  What suprised her, was that she discovered more complex molecules from less complex molecules, via higher compressive forces.

That was the opposite of what she expected. Black holes are the most extreme pressure we know of in Universe.

Highest pressures = most complex RNA-DNA coding of humans? Again, I have lots of material that all coincide with this scenario.

Even with all of humans  mind/intellect abilities they have not created biological life, from where before there was none. This is just a fact.

Upon further consideration, there's so much overlap between the Democrats and the Republicans that they're essentially mirror images of each other.

And the village leader will carry a big stick and beat the shit out of anyone who complains about working their ass off  and having his wealth confiscated by force while that guy sits on his ass.

Wow, you have really gone off the deep end of "it takes a village".  Historically what say is true, and Ive commented on that in this thread and many others over the years. Historically what unified a variouis tribes/nations/states/communitys of peoples occurred via strong hand violence.

That is butt forward pathway into the future.  Mind forward into the future will not use violence and will include the whole village aka Space-hsip Earth in its wholistic consideration.

You and others are so narrow minded you cannot think outside of the historical box of violence and see a brave new Space-ship Earth of all-for-one and one-for-all.

How to make the world work with least amount of human suffering and environmental degradation.  Humanity has to more and more think this way or it is curtains for humanity.

Your suggestions of violence is historically stupid and more so in world with nuclear weapons. Duhh!

The engineer looked out of the window and said "Look! all Scottish sheep are black!"

The physicist said, "No, no. Some Scottish sheep are black."

The mathematician looked irritated. "There is, at this moment in time, at least one field in Scotland, containing at least one sheep, of which at least one side is black."

Unoccupied space is still space, which is something.

Nothing doesn't exist, it is the absence of existence.

What was the question?

There are no poor people and they are not poor because of collectivism.

You are the man.

. Hence, humans could not possibly exist without the bell curve.

Worldwide poverty has already been solved because the population growth is rising.

When population flatlines or declines...then poverty will exist worldwide.

Localized poverty will always exist due to natural bell curves occurring everywhere in nature despite human involvement.

Ive been very clear what Ive beeen saying, yet like many others around here, you have difficulty addressing my comments as stated. Why is that?"

There is no cure for poverty, never has been never will be.

Poverty is an individual solution and can only work one person at a time and only works for those who endevor not to be poor.

Logic and reason do not necessarily lead to truth without accompanying evidence.

The universe is like an engine, it's mechanical and how it works can be understood, but it takes work because you have to learn it to understand it.

As in very few people adhere to the two extremes

Hi there, I've moved the topic to Philosophy.

Ok now I get it, there never was a box, there was only a thread titled "The Default Position" that had no position in SPACE and nor was it a "default".

it was SM's fault or faulty proposition, not position.

The default position{ coneptual viewpoint } is a cosmic truth ex cosmic principles/laws that complement occupied and non-occupied SPACE.

Take gravity, that is the force that causes masses to attract.

All you are saying is socialism and wealth redistribution. Ya that just makes everyone poor.

You sure do know how to talk through people.

After a few generations the flock will have transformed from being mostly red "RJFs" into being mostly white "chickens".

You misspelled Deplorables.

Greyparrot is spelled correctly.  Please try and have some intellectual integrity even if you can have no moral integrity.

Here is photo narcissitic crying baby. Some think it is horseface. This is controversy because Putin also have face of a horse.