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The Problem with Atheists
Is the ego a lie?

Is ego  an illusion?

Does ego have limited degrees of freedom?

Is ego representative of the most degrees of freedom?

Why is ego associated with humans?

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Solipsism.
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@3RU7AL
Everything that is truly important and meaningful is qualia.
Yeah, right. Those photons that tan your skin brown or burn your skin via UV or ionization are not important.

The problem with atheist, theist etc is ego blockage to rational, logical common sense.

Ego is metaphysical-1, ergo mind/intellect/conceptual  illusion

Gravity is the quasi-illusion of mass-attraction via some speculative quanta we label as gravition.

Dark Energy is the quasi-illusion of mass-repulsion via some speculative quanta I label as darkion.

Virtual Particles are an quasi-illusion via their affects on other real particles.

Illusion = hand-waving, --or mind-waving---  magic via magician .
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Most Bad Ass Woman in History
First woman on Earth: Eve was half monkee half human 7.9 - 9 million years ago

Navajo: First Woman is associated with the color yellow and is sometimes said to have been created from yellow clouds,yellow corn, or yellow clay.

..."The oldest woman ever whose age has been verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who died at the age of 122 years, 164 days and who is also the verified oldest person ever."...

..."A Russian woman is claiming to be the oldest person in the world, but says her upcoming 129th birthday is nothing but 'punishment'."...
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Solipsism.
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@secularmerlin
Doctor: Are you really dead or just pretending to be dead?

Nurs/PAe: the machine is not registering any brain activity.

Doctor: the maching could be broken and needs to be calibrated.

Nurse/PA: this is the fifth machine you have had us bring in to test for clinically brain dead.

Doctor: we will come back at a future time and do the tests again, just to be sure the patient is not pretending to be dead

Nurse/PA: but doctor, tommorrow is just an illusionary future that never arrives, there is only the here and now present

Doctor: good point.  So death is a present and the patient should be grateful for their present

Nurse/PA: oh I see, the present is our gift, and reality or illusion is irrelevant?

Doctor: sure, sounds good to me, but then I'm not a philosophy major.


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@Shed12
If you know what's up you know what's down, but trying to decide direction without reference is meaningless.
Reference = frame of reference = relativity.

Up = cosmically not-point-to-able { Fuller }, out away from center of gravity or from the individuals positional frame of reference  ex all directions away from  'me' are out.

Down = cosmically point-to-able { Fuller }, in towards the center of gravity or any specificed frame of reference ex into the bedroom, into the moon, into the ocean etc.

Around = to orbit around, and sometimes falling INward and sometimes falling OUTward. Ex comets that come  IN towards { around  } the sun and tehn go back OUT away from sun.

In, Out and Around are the three cosmic directions Thank you Bucky Fuller

Real { royal } = real estate i.e. royal estate assigned only by the king.  If it is not assigned to you by the royality { King } then it is not really yours.


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Abiogenesis
So basically, save their ego *  * via immaturity.

When and where did ego originate? Why?

Was it a defense mechanism?  Offense?

Evolution towards a creature that seeks truth?

Evolution toward a creature seeks lies?

Resultant of a mutation?

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Rational Cosmic Trinity
Irrational Scenario #1: via Outplayz
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Rational Scenario #1 aka macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE and occupied SPACE Universe
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..................................................SPACE(>*<)   i   (>*<)SPACE..........................................
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If we conceptually remove ---from above---  our eternally existent, finite, occupied SPACE Universe, from the all embracing/surrounding, macro-infinite, non-occupied SPACE ---below----

Rational Scenario #2; macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE only i.e. occupied SPACE has been conceptually removed

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To argue truth only makes the ego look more foolish.

Irrational Scenario #2: ego only Universe
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Ego and its degrees of freedom?
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Idio-umps Swamp Is Large

False projection for an imaginary superior race of humans says all we need to know about your lack of moral integrity.

Run and hide from truth is not a rational, logical common sense or mature approach to adult disscussion.
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Abiogenesis
The reason some others do not address my givens as stated, is that they have no rational, logical common sense that invalidates my givens, as stated.

They believe there is less damage to their ego if they run, hide irrational, illogical lack of common sense ridicule. 

So basically, save their ego *  * via immaturity.

Go figure.
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The Problem with Atheists

Irrational Scenario #1: via outplayz
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Rational Scenario #1 aka macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE and occupied SPACE Universe
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Rational Scenario #2; macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE only

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Irrational Scenario #2:
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Go figure


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Omniscience and Free Will Coexistence
There exists no omni-scient in that scenario.  Outplazy believes there exists some super-natural omini-scient higher dimensions outside our finite, occupied space Universe/God ergo his scenario looks like this:

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Hi obviously does not understand what the words finite Universe mean. He is confused.

Why block out rational, logical common sense. Is it free will, or  is it ego?

Ominiscient infers a sum-total { finite }, omni-considerate, wholsitic { integral } set of lines-of-relationship of awareness.

A conceptual constellation of events aka Rational Cosmic Trinity.

Humans access to metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept is the closet we come to omni-scient consideration.

There exists no infinite source or omni-scient outside of our finite, occupied space Universe.

If we conceptually remove our finite, occupied SPACE Universe, from the the macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE we have only one possible rational, logical common sense conclusion:

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To argue truth only makes the ego look foolish.



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OMG Dman, your ego is working overtime. 

Running and hiding from rational, logical common sense pathways of thouth and conclusions, appears to be your new pastime. Why is that?

Obviously your ego is getting  paid time-and-half pay.

Ego is greatest danger to humanity.

So Dman has blocked out rational logical common sense. Why?

Ominiscient infers a sum-total { finite }, omni-considerate, wholsitic { integral } set of lines-of-relationship of awareness.

A conceptual constellation of events aka Rational Cosmic Trinity.

Free will is a deterministic cause, effect and resultant of bilateral (>*<)  (>*<) clustering of tori, that, we call oour eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God.

Humans access to metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concept is the closet we come to omni-scient consideration.

There exists no infinite source or omni-scient outside of our finite, occupied space Universe.

If we conceptually remove our finite, occupied SPACE Universe, from the the macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE we have the following visual.

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There exists no omni-scient in that scenario.  You need to check in with Outplazy as he believes there exists some super-natural omini-scient higher dimensions outside our finite, occupied space Universe/God ergo Outp's conceptual visual looks like this;

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Go figure







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@Vader
The liberal scum couldn't take us down this time
OMG, your ignorant  --at best--  of idio-umps dirty swamp of corrupt and other immorality he has lived his life in.

Your ignorant  --at best--- of trumpanzee dirty swamp supporting and encouraging corrupt and other immoral actions.

Sad :--(  for USA and humanity

Collins says she believes Ford was sexually assaulted is what Ive read.

Grparrot always finds truth boring he prefers false gods. Go figure. 


1} minimal and greatly limited FBI inquiry, not a complete/full FBI investigations.

2} rigged system not allowing many witnesses with corroborating testimony,

3} Ford takes polygraph and passes. 

4} kavenaugh did not volunteer to take polygraph or asked by congress to do so.

5} what is fair for gander is not fair for goose. Trumpanzee underlying motto

Trumpanzees in power is a sham and only adds to front page expression of immorality of USA.

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Is Preaching Allowed?
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@Imabench
There's a difference between getting preachy because you've exhausted all other options when dealing with someone, and being preachy as the default setting that you start with, the latter of which far and away being the most common in the religion forum
Either way if it is rational, logical common sense pathways and conclusions, then preach away.

We see many here ----in many diffferrent catagories--- who run away and hide from rational, logical common sense pathways of thought and the resultant conclusions.

Why? >>>>>> ego { *  i  * }

Con-stell-ation is a identify-able,  set/group of star events associated with animals, flowers, god etc.

Con-ego-ation is a identify-able, set/group of ego events assciated with politics, religion, irrationality, rationality etc.



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A Primer on Moderation
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@drafterman
Con  = latin  together

Sider  or sidero = latin star

Ergo, to consider, is the coming together of conceptual star events, to create and/or identify/name a conceptually whole conclusion.

Constellation as whole set/group of stellar events we conceptually identify with an animal, flower, god, etc.

Ego =  the primary conceptual star event in a persons life.

An identify-able  group of egos is called a con-ego-ation?
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it is better to call newborns agnostic than atheist
Some are born and ignoramus and others are born......nope, there all  born ignoramuses.

Some may choose to remain and ignoramus even tho the genetics tend toward contrary to that.

So we are left with some choosing to remain immature into adulthood.

Signs of immature adult;

1} ignorance of rational, logical common sense pathways of thought,

2} ignorance of rational, logical common sense conclusions,

3} life is based on and around their ego,

4} ?


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Rational Cosmic Trinity
IF we conceptually remove our eternally existent, finite, occupied SPACE Universe, from the all embracing/surrounding, macro-infininite, non-occupied SPACE

Scenario #1 aka macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE and occupied SPACE Universe
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Scenario #2; macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE only i.e. occupied SPACE has been conceptually removed

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Scenario #3...?" does not exist.

#1 above and #2 above. No rational, logical common sense 3rd catagory exists and that is why we see none offerred.

We do see ego based, insignificant, irrelevant hand-waving to avoid these rational, logical sense conclusions.

That is the problem with theist, atheist etc.

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Another thread about free will
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@TwoMan
What does the conscious mind do?
1} objectively harvests information { bits }

2} sorts information into sets { bits  }

3} discovers patterns and principles { bits }

4} subjectively applys patterns and principles to technologies that support humans and integrity of Unvierse

Thank you B Fuller.

Conscious mind also does communication, mathmatics, language, arts, sailing, bicycle riding, competition, love making, eating, recalls and remmbers, discovers the unconscious mind, etc

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Omniscience and Free Will Coexistence
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@drafterman
D,man still running away and hiding from rational, logical common sense truths. Why? Fear?

Fear of loosing metaphysical-1, ego? .....*  i   *.....

1} your ego run away and hides from same questions I answered from you , but when you were asked you were afraid to answer,

2} hide behind the word "gibberrish" i.e. your rarely have any rational, logical common sense that addresses an/or invaliates my givens as stated,

3} divergency tactics that are similar to 1 and 2, above i.. you run, hide and diverge to avoid rational, logical common sense.

PLease share when you want to be a mature adult and play fair and address my comments as stated and not immature, irrelevant divergent, run and hid tactics. Thanks

Ego { *  * } poses greater danger to humanity

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Nature = God/Universe/Cosmos
Nervous system cells compared to Universe fillaments.


Still we find no bilaterally to Universe/God.

We find a cosmic trinity and subset of trinities.

/\ = three = stability = integrity = minimal 2D enclosure



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Kavanaugh is Innocent
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@Greyparrot
Are you mad at Sen Fartstain for rushing the investigation by withholding the information from the Senate for months?
I'm not mad at anyone.  Your barking on the incorrect tree, once again. Here is what you see when you look in the mirror.

Your vision of superior race of humans is as follows;
 

1} minimal and greatly limited FBI inquiry, not a complete/full FBI investigations.

2} rigged system not allowing many witnesses with corroborating testimony,

3} Ford takes polygraph and passes. 

4} kavenaugh did not volunteer to take polygraph or asked by congress to do so.

5} what is fair for gander is not fair for goose.

Trumpanzees in power is a sham and only adds to front page expression of immorality of USA.

Sad day for USA and humanity.

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Evolution
That we have direct evidence of evolution is not in question, or shouldnt be.

The question is really about the following;

1} simple-to-complex evolution { synergetic? } i.e. when the whole is greater than sum-of-its-parts,

2] complex-to-simple evolution, and, reduction in complexity

3} lateral evolution no rise or lowering of complexity.

Its complicated and their are many factors to be considered.

To date, I'm the only person to have posted examples that explain/define complexity.

Humans are most complex biologics with woman { Xx } being more complex than man { Xy }.



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The Problem with Atheists
If we conceptually take away the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, that inherently means we take away all sound vibration and all vibrations in general ergo what remains has only one rational, logical common sense conclusion.
Scenario #1 aka macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE and occupied SPACE Universe
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Scenario #2; macro-infinite non-occupied SPACE only

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Scenario #3: rational logical common sense

#1 above and #2 above. No rational, logical common sense 3rd catagory exists and that is why we see none offerred.

We do see insignificant, irrelevant hand-waving to avoid these rational, logical sense conclusions.

That is the problem with theist, atheist etc. 
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@Swagnarok
WILL BE SUCCESSFULLY CONFIRMED,
Yeah, sad:--(  day for all women and men who have been sexually assaulted women and womens rights to have control of their bodies.

Great day for Trumpanzees  ---idio-ump accused women sexual assaulter { ex grab strange womens ____ }---   lack of moral integrity.

1} mininimal and greatly limited FBI inquiry, not a complete/full FBI investigations.

2} rigged system not allowing many witnesses with corroborating testimony,

3} Ford takes polygraph and passess. 

4} kavenaugh did not volunteer to take polygraph or asked by congress to do so.

5} what is fair for gander is not fair for goose.

Sad :--(





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@drafterman
1} run away and hide from same questions I answered from you , but when you were afraid to answer,

2} hide behind the word "gibberrish" i.e. your rarely have any rational, logical common sense that addresses an/or invaliates my givens as stated,

3} divergency tactics that are similar to 1 and 2, above i.. you run, hide and diverge to avoid rational, logical common sense.

PLease share when you want to be a mature adult and play fair and address my comments as stated and not immature, irrelevant divergent, run and hid tactics. Thanks

Ego { *  * } poses greater danger to humanity.

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@Greyparrot
Don't be such an obvious cry-bully e-cuck...

False projection for an imaginary superior race says all we need to know about your lack of moral integrity.

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Abiogenesis
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@Paul
If I were to call you a creationist would that be an ad hom attack?
PLease share when you want to address the specifics of any of my comments with any rational, logical common sense.

Ive laid out clearly the a rational, logical common sense pathway to the feasibility ---in this thread, others and at DDO for year or more---  of one or more kinds of eternally existent, black holes ---or other extra-ordinay celestial phenomena--- as a cosmic egg for RNA-DNA coding of most complex humans, or other less complex critters.



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@Paul
Just so I can get a feel for your position, can you tell me what you do believe and don’t believe?
IN regards to what specifically?  Ive made many of my beliefs very clear in this thread and others, including a thread titlle what do you believe.

IF you were at DDO then you may have observed I did the same there for a year or more.

There is no shortage of my stating what I believe in DArt.

Go back through this thread and read my posts if you want to know more. For starters.

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Kavanaugh is Innocent
I would be completely irate if someone accused me of something as heinous as that which never happened.  If he didn't get upset about this whole thing, I would be skeptical of him.  

To me, this woman seems unstable, just as much as the women I mention above.  Women are very emotional, and unfortunately we cannot let emotions take over our ability to be rational.   That doesn't mean I will never believe a woman's allegations...... but it has to make sense.
Your not running for supreme court. Duhh!

Unlike kavenaugh she has done nothing to exhibit instability. In fact, quite the opposite is what were seeing and that is partly why bar association is reopening their considerations of kavenaguh as viable for supreme court. As they rightly should be doing.

When you Trumpanzees actually want to have kavenaugh get a polygraph and a complete/full FBI investigation/inquiry please speak out. Maybe we will then find those the Trumpanzees say are paying Ford to create this whole false scenario.

Otherwise just more hot air oppinion with no validity in kavenaughs and Fords regard.
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@drafterman
post #179 ---Repeated ego based divergency tactics  that do not address any of my comments as stated in this thread ---and others where you run and hide, even after I answer your questions posed to me---  then you refuse to answer the same questions posed to you i.e. you just hide behind the word "gibberish".

Please make valid attempts to play fair with me or not play at all.

Ego is greatest danger to humanity.

Ominiscient infers a sum-total { finite }, omni-considerate, wholsitic { integral } set of lines-of-relationship of awareness.

Practice integrity and stability of integrity may strengthen.

Free will is a deterministic cause, effect and resultant of (>*<)  (>*<)

(>*<)  (>*<) and Ive explainedin detail that texticonic expression at DArt and DDO numerious time.

Always to ego based closed/deaf minds. Go figure.

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@drafterman
I notice you did not address any of my points. I gracefully accept the concession. Have a nice day.
I did address every one of your points.

You on the other hand run and hide  --in this thread and others---  or just hide behind the word "gibberrish".

If you truly want others to have a nice day, you would play fair.

Please try play fair with me, or not at all.

Ego is greatest danger to humanity.

Ominiscient infers a sum-total { finite }, omni-considerate, wholsitic { integral } set of lines-of-relationship.

Practice integrity and stability of integrity may strengthen.

Free will is a deterministic cause, effect and resultant of (>*<)  (>*<)

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Kavanaugh is Innocent
I just heard that bar association had reopened their considerations of kavenaugh.

Duhh yeah, rightly so that they should.  Kavenaugh and graham both lack temperament for judge or senator.

Kavenanaugh is so tainted now that he can never be trusted to be fair to women in any cases that ever come before him as a judge.

Trumpanzees are playing politics to play on their base anger.  Anger is something all Trumpanzees excel in and we see white nationalist extremist causes. Sad :--(
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Omniscience and Free Will Coexistence
The world is full of supercharged waveforms.
Divergent tactic  that  does not address any of my comments as stated. Try again.

Growth is the truth of divinity, and of us. We exist as a resonance cascade.
This does not address any of my comments as stated. Try again.

Will is the driver of awareness.

Divergent tactic does not address any of my comments as stated in last tow posts by me.  Try again.

This journey never ends. We are being called to explore the dreamtime itself as an interface between rebirth and wisdom. It is in redefining that we are reborn.
Divergent tactic that does not address any of my comments as stated. Try again.

Our conversations with other pilgrims have led to a maturing of hyper-unrestricted consciousness. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the infinite via ultra-sentient particles. We are in the midst of an unlimited ennobling of faith that will be a gateway to the totality itself.
Although you may not realize it, you are sentient. If you have never experienced this rekindling of unfathomable proportions, it can be difficult to heal. Have you found your path?
Divergent tactic that does not address any of my comments as stated. Try again.

Only a traveller of the dreamtime may integrate this evolution of faith. Discontinuity is born in the gap where wonder has been excluded. The complexity of the present time seems to demand a condensing of our third eyes if we are going to survive.
Eons from now, we lifeforms will self-actualize like never before as we are re-energized by the quantum cycle. Soon there will be a redefining of potential the likes of which the quantum cycle has never seen. The current of health is now happening worldwide.
  Divergent tactic/  that does not address any of my comments as stated. Try again Dman.

Ego { * i * } is the greatest danger to humanity.

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I - verse is the the narrative we tell ourselves, and others, about ourselves, and the environment that surrounds/embraces us.

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Ominiscient infers a sum-total, omni-considerate, wholsitic { integral } set of lines-of-relationship.

Dman, your still hiding from rational, logical common sense in this thread an others regarding our back-n-forth.

Please try and play fair, or not play at all. Thanks.

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@DBlaze
This just proves the lengths that the left is willing to go to protect R v W.  Ruin a Scotus nominated judge's life to keep his vote out.  I am pro-choice, but would never ruin someone's life over their beliefs.
Incorrect assessment.

It proves I believe Fords testimony over Kavenaguh. She voluntarily took a lie detector test. Kavenaugh has not and not volunteered o encouraged a complete FBI investigation.

Since Kavenaugh had to reveal personal information of him being a virgin throughout High school, I think Ford should have to answer if she ever had an abortion or not, which would give add to motive to perger herself if she felt this strongly about it. The world is too soft to believe anyone would fib in order to save the future choice of women. 
Fine, let the FBI do a complete investigation/inquiry.  They have not.

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that someone is paying her to make these false accusations.
You have no rational, logical common sense  to base that oppinon on.   A more complete FBI investigation/inquiry may have found such as you claim.

Do you really think kavenaguh would admit to sexual assault?  Especially if could still be charged with such.

Everything Ive seen and heard can only lead to one valid conclusion. kavenaugh sexually assaulted Ford.

Kavenaugh and graham screaming and shouting relfects only one thing. That neither of these men have temperament to be a judge or senator. Sad :--(

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@drafterman
Gibberish
Ego based irrational, illogical lack of common sense, mental road blocks to rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

Go figure.

Ego is the greatest danger for humanities longer term success.

Go figure.

*    i     *  most generalized, considerate { large } of the most comprehensive, omni-scient  set
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*i*  --- least generalized, inconsiderate { narrow } of a greater wholistic set
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i = ego = I-verse i.e the narrative we tell ourselves and others about ourselves and the environment that surrounds us.

Dman, please share when actually have any rational, logical common sense that addresses my comments specifically as  presented and invalidates them.  You like to play what is fair for the goose is not fair for the gander as evidenced by not answersing the same questions you pose to me, in another thread.

You run and hide or repeatedly hide  behind a single word "gibberrish". As if that means something when not validated with any shred of rational, logical common sense.

Please play fair, or dont play at all.
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@Paul
You don't believe in evolution either, do you.
IVe never ever stated such comments. In fact Ive been aware of directly observed, real time evidence of evolution with bacteria since mid 90's and I posted an even newer version of that by scientist in lab with bacteria.

Dman offers other observations of eveolution outside of lab in some other thread.

Fred Hoyle pointed out that, if bacteria left unchecked, proliferate so fast that they would equal the mass of the known Universe ---1990--- within 6 months.

Bacteria survive time on moon, in pure sulphur pools and been found in intense radiated cooling water around nuclear plutonium rods.

Abiogenesis is a theory and not a fact of observation, and no mentally stable humans suggest otherwise.

Fuller in 1970' suggested a cosmic egg scenario where more complex biologics exist and what we have is complex-to-simple  ---less frustrated--- evolution leading to some simple-to-complex --more frustrated-- evolution on Eaerth or elsewhere.

Ive expanded on those ideas in this thread and others via black holes and specifically their relationship to cubo{6}-octa{8}hedral geometric facts.
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paying other countries to take migrants, or paying those who starve
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@Greyparrot
Socialism is cancer.
Immoral Trumpanzee via thugs/bullies, mafia/corruption, violating womens body rights are cancer on society.

All-for-one and one-for-all humanity or humanities longer term survival is 500 - 1000 years.

7  billion Grand Cherokee Jeeps via current systems of operation are not viable future.

Even some environmentalists conceding nuclear power is only known resource to provide current pathways humanity is on.

More nukes means more accidents and more people with acciess to nuclear weapons ergo increasing chances of nuclear war.

When do we no longer trust the mental integrity of 10, 30, 50 countries leaders and their electronic hackers playing around with life and death?

There is no gurrantees humanity gets to survive on Earth, and humanity got wise to this prior Mutual Assured Destruction and large reduction in nukes and 24 hr bombers in the sky mentality.

Border walls are a joke. Historically walls get breached sooner or later.

Soviet Union and China both built walls. Breached and/or removed.

Now Israel has built a wall and it is backed by USA.

Butt forward into the future is not mind/intellect and heart forward into the future.


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Is visual fact true to a blind person?
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@Mhykiel
is it true a pen is held by the professor to person with their back to the professor?

Three kinds of truth;

1} absolute,

2] relative, ---specified, occupied space pen exists for professor and metaphyscial-1, abstract pen exists for the others informed of pens existence

3} false/lie i.e. a non-truth

If we conceptually take away the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God  ---ergo all vibration---, then only one rational, logical common sense conclusion remains, a macro-infinite non-occupied space.

In big bang scenarios that suggest a finite occupied something Universe, appearing from macro-infinite non-occupied space nothing, the same conclusion is inferred/deduced.

Finite integrity (>*<) is embraced by infinite lack of integrity ........(>*<)..........




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@drafterman
What is does this omniscience "know"?
Ominiscience infers an sumt-total, omin-considerate, wholsitic set of lines-of-relationship.

Real { reality/spirit-2.occupied space } = Observed Time { physical/energy }ergo observed quanta an associated with sine-wave patterned frequencies ^v^v or as \/\/\

Spirit-3 { occupied space }, metaphysical-3, ultra-micron gravity ( ) ---i.e. postive shaped geodesic SPACE--- and not quantised ergo not real via indirect deduction

Spirit-4 { occupied space }, metaphyscial-4, ultra-micro dark energy )( --i.e. negative shaped geodesic SPACE--- and not quantised ergo not real via indirect deduction

Static presentation of the wholistic set;
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Static mathematical patterning the wholistic set;

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Dark energy expansion of space visualized in two possible ways, length of SPACE geodesics space between abstract great circle events;

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@Paul

There are a number scientific theories of abiogenesis.
Exactly, theories. Biologic life has not been created from scratch ---i.e. where before there was none---  anywhere by humans, even with all of their metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/conceptual abilities.

When we see occur in the lab, then we say we have direct observational evidence of such.




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Idio-umps Swamp Is Large
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@ethang5
I thought you told me to tale a hike?
Sorry, I should have asked you to please take a hike from this thread

You lack moral integrity ergo a Trumpanzee in supporting a dirty swamp of immoral integrity.

Bullies, thugs, corruption etc Sad :--(  all of which want to overturn Roe vs Wade. Sick-n-the-head. :--(



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@Vortex86
I asked what Roe v Wade had to do with the sexual assault allegations not what it had to do with kavanaugh.
Sorry, it has nothing to do with sexual assault that I believe kavenaugh committed and lied to congress about.

I saw is roomate from colledge on CNN saying he thoguht kavenaaugh was lying to congress about how much he drank.  So then he goes into telling the condition of kavenaugh was in when he would come back to his room some nights and the following morning.

I believe kavenaugh lied to congress on more than one issue and does not have temperament for a judge on any court. USA deserves more better moral, emotional integrity in courts, not less.

Roe vs Wade and those attacking it is about sex in other ways ex planned parenthoods preventing unwanted pregnancy.

Idio-ump and Trumpanzees are sick-n-the-head.  This is minimal brainer for those with greater degrees of moral integrity.

Idio-ump is partly presient because of Putin hacking of US. That alone makes him a less than valid president.

He only received 62 million votes vs Hillarys 25 adn Obamas 69 million.

If Ford is telling truth ---and it appears she is--- then kavenaugh pissy attitude  exists only to please Trumpanzees.

Idio-ump and Trumpanzee tend toward aggressive lying and bulling tactics. Sincere lack of moral integrity that believes it is ok to grab strange womens ______y etc.

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@bsh1
I now see Roche appearing in politics today  ergo, my elementary school friend may have had some Roche french in him.

Randy in USA is ok but in England it means horny. Feeling a little randi today.
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Old bangar also common in USA
Banger: This means sausage...or a shabby car.

Jock: No, it’s not the hunky star quarterback. A Jock is a term for a Scottish person that, while affectionate in some instances, can also be interpreted as derogatory.

Ride: Don't ask a new Irish friend from the bar for a "ride" to your place. Ask for a lift instead, because a ride implies a roll in the hay.

Chips: If you've ever ordered fish and chips, you know that these are actually french fries. That greasy snack that we so love? They're called crisps.

Jelly: Here’s why foreigners constantly sneer at our love for PB&J sandwiches. "Jelly" is a monicker for Jell-O -- would you ever put that in your toast?

FannyWhile "fanny" refers to the backside in American English, the word is quite rude to Britons -- who use the word to refer to women's genitals. (Fanny packs are “bum bags” on this side of the pond.)

Fag: Before lashing out at the Brit politely asking for a "fag," remember that, to them, it means cigarette.

Knock up: If someone promises to "knock you up in the morning,” they're assuring you that they'll make sure to wake you up.

Thong: Flip-flop shoes.

Slang in Other Parts of the World 

Entree: When you order an entree in Australia, you’re actually ordering an appetizer. The "main" is the focus of the meal.




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Free Will As Holographic Torus
Free = degrees of freedom
..Spin <left < 6 > right >---Pitch, Yaw Roll is 3 sets of freedom { 3 * 2 spins = 6 }...
..12 restraints needed to prevent torquing/twist/spiral motion....

Will = spirit-of-intent ergo metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept
Accessed via occupied space nervous system.

Occupied space precedes access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept and subsequent spirit-of-intent.


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ICE Gets Coast Guards Money


.."Trump admin. sends 1,600 kids to Texas tent city as number of detained children hits record high"....

“We have more children in detention now than ever before.”
Amy Goodman / Democracy Now! / Multimedia - October 3, 2018

If courts had'nt stepped in, this number would be worse as well as the resultants of parents shipped out of country and may now be dead.
Who knows?  This was a total debacle from the beginning and how the person overseeing this dept. homeland security still has her job is more signs of dirty immoral swamp surrounding idio-ump.

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@Greyparrot
The left is hysterical.
Uhh, I think you missed kavenaugh at congressional hearings. He was hysterically pissed.

His nervous system may need a few beers to calm his nerves.

FBI investigation was a sham.  Not a real --complete--  FBI investigation.



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@Vortex86
Also, I'm not sure why you bring up Roe v Wade in the same conversation as your statement about the allegations against him. I think it speaks to what your primary concern is
If you don grasp that kavenaguh is a vote for overturning Roe vs Wade then you have completely missed the boat of politics over the last several years and specifically idio-ump most recently.

He stopped some immigrant girl from getting an abortion, if I recall that story correctly. Unfair on his part.

He made statements that supreme court is allowed to get rid of Roe vs Wade if they so choose.

I believe he has lied to congress and certainly does not exhibit temperament for supreme court, or for any court.

There are so many alternatives to kavenaugh, and many of those also would be ultra-conservatives likely to overturn Roe vs Wade.

It is all about overturning Roe vs Wade, which has already been  greatly reduced with states making intrusions into womens bodies and restricty funding to in more ways ---ex planned parenthood--  than just abortion.

Lets be clear here. People who want stick their nose *v* into womans bodily business without her consent, are sick-n-the-head.

God/Universe help us if Pence --- ultra-religous ___________  ergo ultra-conservative--- has to be the tie-breaker and.or become USA president. Sad :--(





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@bsh1
IN 5th grade I had a friend named Roach.  I dont  recall associating it with the bug. Not sure the spelling was the same.  He lived in downtown area of our city, that was brownstone like older { 50's } appartment buildings with some already condemmed.

 All kids ---or least my feelings at time--   thought of it to be a very poor and dangerous tough area to live in.

I saw him again around 17 years of age and he appeared to be in good spirits with a van he was driving.

Also around this time {1970 } I met another person who named his dog roach, and we all new what that was in reference to.

Met two people who were named Star. One a young man who rode off with my realtively new 5-speed Raleigh bycycle and another a girl.

Then last week I met a lady name Aloha.  Ive also known a Rain and two three Forest's.

Ive known a few men, older than me, over the years that would refer to me   ---if not also some others--- as babe, or baby.  I never quite understood that and was a little put off by it.
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The problem atheist, theist etc, is not  following rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

The problem with atheist, theist etc, is that of not  following rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.

If we conceptually take away the eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe, that inherently means we take away all sound vibration and all vibrations in general ergo what remains has only one rational, logical common sense conclusion.

Eternally existent, metaphysical-2, macro-infinite, non-occupied space.

Such a space exists before any scenarios of Big Bang that infer a finite something { occupied space } coming form macro-infinite nothing { non-occupied space }.

If we cannot quantize or quantify ulra-micro, metaphysical-3 gravity and metaphysical-4 dark energy, then yes, not all truths can be found/known.

However, via rational, logical common sense, based on what we do observe, and a finite set of inviolate cosmic laws/principles, we can deduce the truth.  It is still truth whether we can verify/confirm that the deduction.

How do we know it is truth?  Because of process of elimination. Any auto mechanic can tell you about the process of elimination, to discover what truth is in regards to why the engine is not functioning properly.


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@3RU7AL
I'm not sure it's fair to say the pilot "wanted" to "go there".
Any who desire/choose/want to are not coerced.

They are intimately associated with a finite set of  invioate cosmic laws/principles that, are associated with occupied space, ergo cause, effect and resultant.


..."Tetherball: In the "me" ball in Universe 12 structuralrestraints arenecessary to eliminate all the degrees of freedom becauseall the initial four restraints areconnected to the surface of the "me" sphere and notto its center. The four points oftangency describe a square, and they permit local twistand torque because a square isunstable. So each tension has to be replaced by threetension restraints to produce atensegrity structure within which the "me" ball maybe omninonredundantly immobilized."....



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