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@ethang5
No you dont, i.e. your still clueless and evidence fro you clueless-ness is in your reply to my post #98.But Ethan does know what a dumbbell is. ; )
Your confused at best and lack reading comprehensions skills at worst.
Not to mention you in constant denial of truth, and rational, logical common sense conclusions.
Very common here at DArt. Mature adults is not popular in these parts either.
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@ethang5
You still here. I thought I told you to take a hike. Trumpanzee need not apply as they are denial of truth and rational, logical common sense.
As is your lack of reading comprehension abilities and repeated boring comments. Denial of facts and truth is typical of Trumpanzees who voted for idio-ump. Swamp is growing, democracy is in jeopardy, and moral values have disintegrated even further, Sad :-(
Take a hike Ethang as you have no moral values for truth regards to idio-ump, Trumpanzee thugs, and corruption that surrounds them.
Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing. Why is he charged with anything?
Trumpanzees believe their moral people. If we cant believe a Trumpanzee who can we believe?
He is not a swamp type person is he? Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?
Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.
I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.
I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.
Your obviously one of those immoral Trumpanzees. I bet you even voted for idio-ump. Sad :--(
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@Castin
Castin do you understand there are, at minimum, two definitions of complex?What is your basis for this conclusion?
1} mathematical, ex 3 is more complex 1. One has not relationships, 3 and three relationships. 4 had 6 relationships etc with exponential growth rated.
...see this link
2} synergetic complexity i.e. something occurs that is not predicted by sum of its parts.
First I will give you a simple mathematical example of woman being more complex than man Xx vs Xy i.e. Xx has many more parts ergo many more lines-of-relationship.
These more parts and more lines-of-relationship interact in ways to make woman more complex than man. You still have no idea of ways women or more complex than men?
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Parents are the head/lead authority in a childs lives ergo parents, like any countrys leader do not lie.
What kind of world we be living in if our parents and leaders lied to us?
At the top of our tree was and angel. At the top of society are leader sthat are angels that do not lie.
Who did Santa vote for in the last USA election? OMG, tell me it not true!
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@disgusted
Chickens poofing into existence are not very likely, except in ways of taking a chicken apart here and then transmitting via ELMagnetics to be reassemble else where ex beam this chicken from here to there. That my come happen on Earth if it does not already exist elsewhere.Oh no, you claim your proto chicken was poofed into existence from
What came first is the RNA-DNA coding for the egg.
There is evidence that more complex molecules come from less complex molecules via high pressures.
We know the 4-fold cubo-octahedron transforms into double set of Euclidean sine-waves, at 90 degrees to each other, however, we also know that these same 2 peaks 2 troughs can configure as;
1} parrallel to each other and define the quadra-pedic side arms and tail flukes of cetacceans,
2} perpendicular to each other as side fins and tail fin at 90 degrees with fish.
We know that the area of the four internal bisecting planes of a spherical cubo-octahedron eguals the outer surface area of that spherical cubo-octahedron ---thank you Archimedes---.
This latter part is very similar what is inside a black hole is expressed on its event horizon --thank you Jacob Bekenstien.
The cubo-octahedron has 8 surface triangles and water is composed of 8 electrons. Biologics are 70 - 85% water.
I can envision parts and pieces of most complex RNA-DNA coding coming from black holes as evaporation of some other means and carried by celestrial phenomena within a galaxy, if not beyond.
We know there appears to be a black hole at center of every galaxy that has been observed.
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@ethang5
Sorry man. Your posts have become repetitive and boring. I have no reason to keep reading the same illogical thing over and over.
As is your lack of reading comprehension abilities and repeated boring comments. Denial of facts and truth is typical of Trumpanzees who voted for idio-ump. Swamp is growing, democracy is in jeopardy, and moral values have disintegrated even further, Sad :-(
Take a hike Ethang as you have no moral values for truth regards to idio-ump, Trumpanzee thugs, and corruption that surrounds them.
Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing. Why is he charged with anything?
Trumpanzees believe their moral people. If we cant believe a Trumpanzee who can we believe?
He is not a swamp type person is he? Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?
Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.
I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.
I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.
Your obviously one of those immoral Trumpanzees. I bet you even voted for idio-ump. Sad :--(
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@Reece
I'm looking for facts that many people don't already know. That's what I mean by extraordinary.
Bats { air } and dolphins/porpoises { water } make highest frequency /\/\/\/ sound waves in their respective medium and that mathematical frequency ^v^v is close to the mathematical frequency of EMradiaion { photons } as micro-waves Ex micro-wave oven frequencies are just slightly longer that heat { infra-red photons }.
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@IlDiavolo
Ethang does not want to here rational, logical common sense ideas.We cannot get rid of poverty but at least we can keep it so low that we don't have to worry about it.
Ive already tried this approach. We a growing disparity between rich and poor that represented by a dumb-bell geometry > <.
Ethang cannot grasp what a dumb-bell geometry is.
What humanities needs to strive for is octahedral geometry < > i.e. fat middle class and few poor and few rich at each end.
Geometry goes over Ethangs head as does most rational, logical common sense. Go figure. Seen one Trumpanzee and yove seen them all> No not really.
They all lack rational, logical common sense pathways of thought when it comes to one or more of the following three;
politics, truth and reality.
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@ethang5
Read the following with any comprehension abilities you may have, then take a hike from this thread. Please have some moral integrity in these regards and drop the idio-ump Trumpanzee persona.
The link that follows addresses some types of crime in the ninth was crime city in US, Richmond CA, where town pays criminals to not commit crimes and it not is working it saves.
So basically this appears to be about a minimal standard of subsistence to save state/nation/etc money.
Of course this is taking place in a 1st world country but duh, it sure makes sense and the data appears to bear this out.
They state that many of the crimminals do not even requrie or request the whole $1000.00 a month.
Reminds of when Nixon was president and he commissioned a study heroin abusers and found that that medical programs to get them off heroin worked most of the time, but Nixons staff convinced him was not the politically smart thing to do so the program was never started. :--( Sad.
This sounds like something stupid idio-ump would also do. Remember when they passed out clean needles to the addicts { 1990's? }.
Remember when condoms were encouraged to youth? Remember how many women have died because of no place to get a safe abortion?
Does any republicans understand what the word 'prevention' actually means?
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@ethang5
Take a hike Ethang as you have no moral values for truth regards to idio-ump, Trumpanzee thugs, and corruption that surrounds them.
Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing. Why is he charged with anything?
Trumpanzees believe their moral people. If we cant believe a Trumpanzee who can we believe?
He is not a swamp type person is he? Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?
Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.
I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.
I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.
Your obviously one of those immoral Trumpanzees. I bet you even voted for idio-ump. Sad :--(
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@Castin
Are you serious? Do really believe woman is not more complex than man?What is your basis for this conclusion?
Yes or no, and then I will give the rationale for the conclusion Ive reached, since you dont have any rationale for my conclusion.
It should be fairly obvious to most.
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The problem is not with theist or atheists. The problem is;
1} following or not following rational, logical common sense pathways of thought { mind/intellect/concept }
2} definning " G "od/" U "niverse, and its subset God/Universe.
Macro-infinite non-occupied space is not two infinite things.
It is one macro-infinite set.
This above and below is resultant of rational, logical common sense pathways of thought and a minimal brainer for those who do not fear truth.
Finite, occupied space Universe/God is multiple things.
1} physical/energy as fermionic matter ---spirit-2 ergo Observed Time as occupied space
2} physical/energy as bosonic forces spirit-2 ergo Observed Time as occupied space
3} a new discovered additional 3rd catagory physical/energy { ergo another cosmic susbet trinity } of physical/energy ergo occupied space,
4} gravity ( ) --metaphyscial-3, spirit-3 as occupied space,
5} dark energy )( --metaphysical-4, and spirit-4 as occupied space.
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@ethang5
You believe all circumstances are the same and that all laws are moral.
Your in denial of facts, that, resultant of rational, logical common sense,
Not all circumstances and humans are the same and not all laws are created equally or enforced equally.
The solution to poverty is far beyond your narrow mind to grasp, irrespective of the rational, logical common sense presented to you.
Your ego keeps you blind to truth. Sad :--( You have little rational, logical common sense or moral authority to offer us in this thread or others Ive come across.
Trickle out economy has brought most of humanity to higher standards-of-living. However, it has not been primary goal. It has been a side effect.
This is butt forward non-thinking and get my piece first into the future. There is only one mind-first sane pathway into the future for humanity.
It is larger, more wholistic picture/scenario. All-for-one and one-for-all mentality is the only sane way forward.
The solution to poverty is all-for-one and one-for-all. I know your not big on morals, yet this is only one valid scenario for humanities continuation on Earth beyond 500 -1000 years now.
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Read the following with any comprehension abilities you may have, then take a hike from this thread. Please have some moral integrity in these regards.
The link that follows addresses some types of crime in the ninth was crime city in US, Richmond CA, where town pays criminals to not commit crimes and it not is working it saves.
So basically this appears to be about a minimal standard of subsistence to save state/nation/etc money.
Of course this is taking place in a 1st world country but duh, it sure makes sense and the data appears to bear this out.
They state that many of the crimminals do not even requrie or request the whole $1000.00 a month.
Reminds of when Nixon was president and he commissioned a study heroin abusers and found that that medical programs to get them off heroin worked most of the time, but Nixons staff convinced him was not the politically smart thing to do so the program was never started. :--( Sad.
This sounds like something stupid idio-ump would also do. Remember when they passed out clean needles to the addicts { 1990's? }.
Remember when condoms were encouraged to youth? Remember how many women have died because of no place to get a safe abortion?
Does any republicans understand what the word 'prevention' actually means?
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@ethang5
Jesus in the bible is not the same as any other records of a Jeus.
Stick to the facts, please. There are 1000s of people with name Jesus in the americas.
Jesus of bible is mythical fairy tale. As is Adam and Eve.
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@ethang5
Trickle out economy has brought most of humanity to higher standards-of-living. However, it has not been primary goal. It has been a side effect.
This is butt forward non-thinking and get my piece first into the future. There is only one mind-first sane pathway into the future for humanity.
It is larger, more wholistic picture/scenario. All-for-one and one-for-all mentality is the only sane way forward.
The solution to poverty is all-for-one and one-for-all. I know your not big on morals, yet this is only one valid scenario for humanities continuation on Earth beyond 500 -1000 years now.
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RNA-DNA coding may occur within and on event horizon surface of black holes.
We know that under higher pressures, molecules become more complex.
Black holes create the highest pressures in Universe and human RNA-DNA is the most complex biologics of Universe.
1 triangle + 1 triangles = 4of same size triangles synergetically.
4 triangles define the 3-fold tetra{4}hedron and the 60 degree orientation is same as the the 4-fold cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron { 4 bisecting planes }.
This link shows the intimate geometric correlation to each others http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/plates/figs/plate31.html
The 4-fold spherical cubo-octahedronsinternal, four bisecting planes area, are equal to the outer surface area. What is inside is equal to what is outside via square area. This is holographic aspect of whats inside a black hole being expressed on its outer event horizon.
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@Greyparrot
Inflation erodes wages the most. Illegal immigration is one of the least of humanities problems.Also...illegal immigration erodes wage hikes.
Mostly the Trumpanzees still get a hard-on over illegal and legal immigrants. Sad :--(
6 billion human via antiquated nation/state mentality leading to divisive demise of humanity in 500 - 1000 years.
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There is no races to mix.
Welcome to the mutt society aka the mutt race. Just as GrParrot.
It is all-for-one and one-for-all.
Otherwise humanity perishes in 500 - 1000 years.
Those who only want to divide are encouraging the demise of humanity. Go figure and get back to me.
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@ethang5
Ok so Manafort has chose to cooperate to lessen his sentencing. Why is he charged with anything?
Trumpanzees believe their moral people. If we cant believe a Trumpanzee who can we believe?
He is not a swamp type person is he? Is Flynn or any the other Trumpanzees truly swamp-people?
Idio-ump promised to drain swamp, reverse roe vs wade via supreme court and be as anti-immgrant as possible.
I think some do not understand the differrence between a moral and immoral swamp.
I think some do not care that there is a differrence between swamp of immoral mafia-like thugs/bullies, criminals and those who play politics to get this or that biil passed.
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Sexual predator > sexual bias supreme court judge > Roe vs Wade overturned > immoral Trumpanzees get hard-on > ?
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@ethang5
Read the following with any comprehension abilities you may have, then take a hike from this thread. thanks
The link that follows addresses some types of crime in the ninth was crime city in US, Richmond CA, where town pays criminals to not commit crimes and it not is working it saves.
So basically this appears to be about a minimal standard of subsistence to save state/nation/etc money.
Of course this is taking place in a 1st world country but duh, it sure makes sense and the data appears to bear this out.
They state that many of the crimminals do not even requrie or request the whole $1000.00 a month.
Reminds of when Nixon was president and he commissioned a study heroin abusers and found that that medical programs to get them off heroin worked most of the time, but Nixons staff convinced him was not the politically smart thing to do so the program was never started. :--( Sad.
This sounds like something stupid idio-ump would also do. Remember when they passed out clean needles to the addicts { 1990's? }.
Remember when condoms were encouraged to youth? Remember how many women have died because of no place to get a safe abortion?
Does any republicans understand what the word 'prevention' actually means?
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@3RU7AL
Macro-infinite non-occupied space is not two infinite things.You can't have two infinite things.
It is one macro-infinite set.
Finite, occupied space Universe/God is multiple things.
1} physical/energy as fermionic matter ---spirit-2 ergo Observed Time
2} physical/energy as bosonic forces spirit-2 ergo Observed Time
3} a new discovered additional 3rd catagory,
4} gravity ( ) --metaphyscial-3, spirit-3,
5} dark energy )( --metaphysical-4, and spirit-4
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Repeating your falsehoods does not make them of any significance.
Keep telling yourself lies --state of denial-- is your choice. Your very narrow-minded person who needs to expand your conscious horizons.
Read the following with best comprehension abilites that you may have access to.
The growing economic disparity space between between rich and poor is a primary problem of humanity. 2nd only to problems related to ego.
We need a large fat middle class with few poor and few rich at each extremme end. This is the octahedral pattern ex <>.
Trickle out economy has brought most of humanity to higher standards-of-living. However, it has not been primary goal. It has been a side effect.
This is butt forward non-thinking and get my piece first into the future. There is only one mind-first sane pathway into the future for humanity.
It is larger, more wholistic picture/scenario. All-for-one and one-for-all mentality is the only sane way for
The problems are;
0} ego,
1} 6 billion plus people, via,
2} non-sustainable energy sources for power production,
3} ecologically abusive standards-of-living correlated to those non-sustaible fossil fuels,
4} a divided humanity rather than the more moral, spiritual and unified minded, one-for-all and all-for-one mentality.
The signs of a dying sustainable ecology are becoming more visible every year.
Bucky Fuller envision a World Game to make. Most recenty that is operating system EARTH
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@ethang5
Repeating flasehoods is the best you have to offer ergo nothing of significance, so please,
read message #1 again til you can make ues of any comprehension abilities you may have,
then take a hike from this thread. Thanks
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@Mopac
Mushy brain syndrome.Glass house
No Mopac, you dont want to learn anything from me, so please scrape away your poo.
You have nothing to add of any significance.
Take a hike until you do. Your ego ---your not alone there-- is the problem and a wasted space of more than one kind
Do humanity a favor and place your ego _________________t and begin with message #1.
This is a minimal brainer that your ego disallows.
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So Cohen and Manafort cooperating with Muller.
Republicans who supported FBI investigation in 90s now refuse to have FBI investigation into Kavenaugh vs Ford issue.
Trumpanzees and ego are great danger to USA and humanity.
This is largest swamp of disgusting immoral humans infesting white house and congress.
Lock them Away! Lock Them Far Away! Lock Them Away Today!
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@Outplayz
Seperating immigrant children from their parents is immoral act, that you empathetic centers are dissconected from. Sad :--(
You dissconect from you empathetic center keeps you in denial of this truth.
Sad :--( Give the money back to the FEMA and Coast Guard and reunite children with parents, including those parents sent back to countgry of origin.
Idio-ump and Southern mister McGoo repeated create additional unnecessary problems and costs to the taxpayer.
Sad :--( lack of moral integrity from Trumpanzees.
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@ethang5
And you call others...chimps.
Repeating falsehoods does not make them true. This is your ego problem repeatedly.
idio-ump and trumpazes are insults homer.
If the shoe fits, and it does. Idio-ump and Trumpanzees sittin-n-a-tree, kiss--ing. Throw in Putin and Kim Ung Pooh what we get is you. Sad :--(
Denial of truth is your ego speaking and the greatest danger to humanity.
Read message #1 and enjoy the truth of the pudding, or continue to let your ego present denials of truth and lies.
OMG, please take your nonsense elsewhere. Thanks Ethang.
Sad :--( lack of moral integrity and no intellectual integrity coming from your seeming access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts is irrelevant to this thread.
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@ethang5
These are the morons calling other people idiots and chimps.
Denial of truth is your ego speaking.
And you call others idiots and chimps.
Denial of truth is your ego speaking and the greatest danger to humanity.
Read message #1 and enjoy the truth of the pudding, or continue to let your ego present denials of truth and lies.
Sad :--( lack of moral integrity and no intellectual integrity coming from your seeming access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts.
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@3RU7AL
No, grains of sand are occupied space ergo finite within finite occupied space Universe. Rather simple rational, logical common sense conclusions for those whose ego does not have mental road blocks to truth.(IFF) infinite means literally "without limit" (THEN) anything that can be divided into parts or identified in any way cannot be considered infinite.
2} eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied space embraces/surrounds the following,
3} eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe.
This is a minimal brainer for those who choose rational, logical common sense pathways of thought.
Finite = wholistic integrity ergo systemic and structural integrity
Infinite = lack of wholistic integrity ergo lack of systemic and structural integrity
1} metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts i.e. concepts of space, dogs, Toyotas, God/Universe and are;
......1a} absolute truths,
.......1b} neutral or relative truth i.e. true and not true
........1c} non-truths.
There is at least two or three cosmic subsets to the primary cosmic trinity set.
The problem with atheists and non-atheist is the same. Ego.
Ego is the biggest problem facing humanity.
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@3RU7AL
DDO > Ebuc, the extraterrestrial alien \*\ /*/I feel like we've met before...
* i * = i -verse i.e. ego = i
I-verse being the narrative we tell ourselves and others about ourselves.
SPACE(>*<) i (>*<) SPACE = generalizatiion of cosmic trinity
Positive shaped gravity ( )
Sine-wave frequency reality ><, ^v^v, /\/\/
Negative shaped dark energy )(.
2} Macro-infinite non-occupied space embraces/surrounds the following,
3} Finite, occupied space Universe.
123, ABC, thats how easy Universe can be. M. Jackson tune { shake it, shake it baby }
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@ethang5
All female animals have an egg. This is a minimal brainer for most humans.
Most extreme gravitational pressures of Universe, may create RNA-DNA coding for most complex organisms of Universe/God?
..."Recent high-pressure studies reveal a wealth of new information about the behavior of molecular materials subjected to pressures well into the multimegabar range (several hundred gigapascal), corresponding to compressions in excess of an order of magnitude. Under such conditions, bonding patterns established for molecular systems near ambient conditions change dramatically, causing profound effects on numerous physical and chemical properties and leading to the formation of new classes of materials.".....
.."In a lab experiment intended to duplicate the high temperatures and pressures of such an impact, researchers used the laser to simultaneously make adenine, guanine, cytosine, and uracil, the four organic compounds in RNA, which many believe to have been the first molecule to encode genetic information."...
Four bases, with 5th alternate, used in RNA could be a clue.
64 codon triplets { triangulation } could be a clue.
Perhaps there exist a spiral relationship between the outer surface of a black hole and the internal stuff.
In this scenario we see the great hexagonal circles of the spherical cubo-octahedron as being 3D spiral patterns likened to a slinky toy.
/////////////////////////////////////// slinky toy profile where top is outer-surface of black hole and bottom is inside the black hole.
Top = gravity as outer seemingly 2D surface pulling INward via geodesic trajectory going IN
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Bottom = dark energy, internal to black hole, pushing OUTward via geodesic trajectory going OUT
This is just simplistic beginnings for what could be a much more complex set of overlapping spiral patterns with black hole phenomena.
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@Reece
Yeah, I still wouldn't call that extraordinary. It's like saying what the fastest land animal is. Enough Said.
No not enough said. That is your ego speaking. This is my ego speaking.
Access to metaphyscial-1, mind/intellect/concepts create technologies that,
1} can easily capture cheetahs,
2} go faster on land, water and air than cheetahs,
3} study cheetahs at the RNA-DNA level, ergo,
4} assist cheetah should they get sick,
5} protect cheetahs from humanity.
All of these is so much more extra-ordinary ---not common-- than what is found in animal kingdom.
Your in denial of the most extra-ordinary aspects of human animal, within the animal kingdom.
Most animals have one, two three special-case skills.
Humans access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts is there special-case skill that allows them to step-outside of one special-case ability.
They can now run faster, fly higher, swim deeper than any other animal via their mental abilities ergo they become broad-based eneralizing specialists of all sciences, all traits, all circumstances etc.
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@ethang5
Bucky Fuller was an uneducated kook. It is not surprising that you worship him.
Keep telling yourself lies --state of denial-- is your choice.
Your "givens" were off topic. You come onto threads and spout gibberish that make sense only to you. No one is interested in your manifesto. Make sense, or be prepared for people thinking you're a loon.
Keep telling yourself lies --state of denial-- is your choice. Your very narrow-minded person who needs to expand your conscious horizons.
Read the following with best comprehension skills that you may have access to.
The growing economic disparity space between between rich and poor is a primary problem of humanity.
Geometrical this is like dumb-bells --><---large poor class and large rich class and small middle class ex ><.
We need a large fat middle class with few poor and few rich at each extremme end. This is the octahedral pattern ex <>.
Trickle out economy has brought most of humanity to higher standards-of-living. However, it has not been primary goal. It has been a side effect.
This is butt forward non-thinking and get my piece first into the future. There is only one mind-first sane pathway into the future for humanity.
It is larger, more wholistic picture/scenario. All-for-one and one-for-all mentality is the only sane way for
The problems are;
1} 6 billion plus people, via,
2} non-sustainable energy sources for power production,
3} ecologically abusive standards-of-living correlated to those non-sustaible fossil fuels,
4} a divided humanity rather than the more moral, spiritual and unified minded, one-for-all and all-for-one mentality.
The signs of a dying sustainable ecology are becoming more visible every year.
Bucky Fuller envision a World Game to make. Most recenty that is operating system EARTH
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@ethang5
Take them where? Trump was legally elected president of America, you aren't even a citizen. Take them where? You are confused.
Lock them far away from decent moral people who do not condone mafia-like thug and bulling behaviour.
Your message #1 is idiotic nonsense, that is why you can't address criticism to it.
Your in denial of truth. Sad :-(
What difference does it make if parents are separated from their children at the border, or in Clarksville Tennessee? You seem to be only interested in alien children.
Yes, children should not be seperated from the parents at the border. It is immoral to do so and your dissconnect from your empathetic centers is sad :--(. Your kind is partly why I do not think humanity will survive another 500 - 1000 years. Maybe a few will survive.
You are the very type of political correct doofus that caused the people to vote Trump into office. For you, America's money and land is for foreigners first. No wonder you're angry.
You voted for Trump? You support idio-ump, his polices and those republican Trumpanzees? Then yes, your an immoral Trumpanzee. Sad :--(
Trump and his supporters will stay here.
Yeah, that is why humanity may cease to exist with 500 - 1000 years. Sad :--(
It can only be all-for-one and one-for-all or much of humanity will suffer and come to terrible end. Maybe a few will survive.
But it does make us see why Trump is president
Because of immoral Trumpanzees and those who now see their mistake and do not intend to vote for him again, or did not vote last time and will come out to vote this time.
Vote fro FEMA and Coast Guard money to not be spent esperating immigrant children from their parents.
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@Outplayz
To let the good people in and keep the bad out.
You ignorant of anti-immingrant reality in USA.
Second, i don't think employment is a good enough reason to let anyone in.
Your confused dude very confused.
Hence, we need to enforce our borders.
Seperating immingrant children from their parents is immoral act, that you empathetic centers are dissconected from. Sad :--(
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@Mopac
No Mopac, youou dont want to learn anything from me, so please scrape away your poo.
You have nothing to add of any significance.
Take a hike until you do. Your ego ---your not alone there-- is the problem and a wasted space of more than one kind
Do humanity a favor and place your ego _________________t and begin with message #1.
This is a minimal brainer that the ego disallows.
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@ethang5
Paying criminals not to rob "makes sense" to this genius.
Proof is in the pudding. Your afraid of pudding because of truth within it.
Reread message #1 and the article linked to.
You also need to learn how prevention of anything detrimental, is always a win-win best option.
So does paying illegals not to come here.
If it prevents otherwise detrimentals from occurring then yes. You want to paint humans societal issue realities into simple black { us } and white { them }. This is so very narrow minded when what humanity needs is to be more broad minded.
Were living on a finite planet with finite resources and we all live together as all-of-one and one-for-all, otherwise I believe humanity will perish with 500 years.
And paying for criminal parents not to be separated from kids.
The alternatives were seeing are immoral. This occurring because of the same people who want to see Roe vs Wade overturned. Sick-n-the-head people.
These people have more use for our money than we do. Want some of that money? Just commit a crime, and they will pay you not to do it again.
Two differrent sets of circumstances but again you want to paint all crimminals and crimes into one bucket of { them } and one other bucket of { us }.
You dont grasp how narrow minded your viewpoint of the world/reality is. Sad :--(
These are the morons calling other people idiots and chimps.
No one in this thread has called you either of those names ergo alternative facts is what you have to offer us.
Ex http://www.debate.org/Greyparrot/ is an alternative fact. Sad :--(
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@Outplayz
Then you should be happy Trump signed an executive order to stop separating families.
He may have but last I heard the number of immigrant children being seperated was growing and FEMA and Coast Guard money is paying for it.
This nation wasn't a nation. Using it was built on immigrants is a fallacious argument bc we are a nation now and must control who comes in.
As per your usual OtPlax, I made no such statements. When will you ever stick to addressing what I stated instead of your false projections. Please make and attempt to so. We have been over this for a couple of years thereabouts now.
How is it fair to me and others like myself that follow the law and respect the nation we are passionate to be a part of?
That is a differrent side/divergent issue from the topic of this thread. Children being seperated from their parents at the border.
...please read my lips/text..........
Other than that, as i mentioned, illegal immigration is a detriment to our country more than it helps.
None of that makes our polices moral and specifically the issue I'm addressing in this thread.
I think you lack empathy in seeing how it harms Americans. For some reason... all of your empathy is going towards those that don't give two craps about you as a citizen.
I can only presume the parents not only love but have empathy for their children. If can not empathize with those families, then I think your a Trumpanzee policy supporter. That is sad :--( and unbecoming of any decent human with access to their brains empathetic centers.
Yes we do need immigrants to many labor jobs that need to be done in USA. This is a fact/truth. The only good side is that these children may have a better life in the tents in Texas than they may have had in their home countries. I dunno all of the details nor do you.
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@Reece
Don't many animals have access to 'mind/intellect/concepts'.I wouldn't consider that extraordinary.
Yes, I agree they do and especially cetacceans, however, humans degree of access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts is so much greater.
You apparently do not recognize that fact. Or do and choose to ignore it? PLease check your with your ego at the door/portal.
You do not apparrently consider degree of access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts far more than other animals, you do think humans degree of access is extraordinary. Again, I think you ego is blocking your ability to concede how extraordinary, and to what degree, humans access affects/effects all existance on this planet.
Cetacceans are not killing off humans but humans are killing off many animals from Earth.
Yes, the influenza virus can kill off many humans, but a virus does not build ships to kill off the whales.
Bacteria porliferate fast than any other biologic and they have potential to kill off all humans on planet, however, humans had and still have that potential to kill off all humans on Earth with nuclear weapons and messing around with genetics, bacteria viruses etc, while at same time building space-ships that take us to the moon.
If a bacteria or cetaccean builds a spaceship that will take humans to the moon, I will be extraordinarily impressed. Wouldnt you? Maybe not.
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@RationalMadman
OMG, please take a hike until you can meet the criteria Ive laid out in many threads and here above.
Please oh Please take a hike. Thanks Again for your assistance in these regards
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@Reece
Aren't your facts 'micro-irrelevant' to the question at hand?
No they are not and you offer nothing of significance to suggest they are.
Please check with your ego, at the door/portal, if you think you have some rational, logical common sense, that, adds to or invalidates my givens, as stated. Thanks
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@RationalMadman
RaMad, your like Mopac except he does not cuss and rant like you.
You have nothing of rational, logical common sense that is significant to add to, or invalidate my givens as stated.
Please take a hike until you can meet the criteria Ive laid out in many threads and here above. Please oh Please take a hike.
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@3RU7AL
Space as we tend to use the term is clearly non-infinite. It might be really really big, and cosmologists can estimate the approximate size and age of the observable universe based on scientific observation.
Occupied space is finite. You have yet been able to concede the distinction even if you dont believe macro-infinite non-occupied space exists eternally.
If you are simply trying to say that space itself, beyond our ability to observe, just continues on and on "forever" this is rampant speculation.
Yes space is infinite. Occupied space is finite. If you agree with the latter premise then the only rational, logical common sense conclusion is that eternally existent non-occupieds space is what exists beyond our finite occupied space Universe.
It is only your ego that keeps you from conceding this rational, logical common sense conclusion.
The evidence we currently have strongly suggests that space and time are the same thing and they were once very very small and now they are getting larger and larger and we are approximately 50% of the way through the cycle, incidentally this makes a lot of sense because the 50% mark is the peak of the complexity curve.
So here you prove my point. Small and large only relate to a finite occupied space. Your in denial of your own comments that can only lead to one rational, logical common sense conclusion. Like so many, even Bru7al has and ego problem to obvious truths. You are the only one here that I believe shows the most rational, logical common sense.
Just not batting 100% yet.
From our best calculations all space and time will come to a screeching halt at the predicted heat death of the cosmos.
Heat death means one very large, very flat and least energy photon. It will not stay that way because gravity ( ) and dark energy )( eternally exists, along with sine-wave EMRadiation.
I can see no reason to believe and no evidence to support the idea that either space and/or time is technically "endless".
Yeah your correct and OtPlaz is incorrect. He doesnt get it yet.
You can believe the universe is "infinite" if you like, but I'd be curious about why you would think that and what possible utility you believe that belief might grant.
No it is not and OtPlaz is confused.
Space is infinite and eternally existent.
Finite occupied space is our Universe.
1} "U" niverse/"G" od is the label that includes macro-infinite space in the list.
0} "U" niverse/"G" od is the label/identity that includes the above #1 and metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo concepts of space not actual space. Conceptual space has no 2D area or 3D volume.
Conceptual space, unlike actual space, has no location.
...read my lips/text Bru7al, Conceptual space has not location ergo no Observed Time reference points.....
Occupied space is within macro-infinite space and exists in reference to non-occupied space,
....and any set of 2 points of occupied space as and 2D area or 3 points as 4th point of 3D volume.....
Macro-infinite space is outside of finite occupied space and that is its only reference point.
Why do so many seemingly rational, logical common sense people run from rational, logical common sense conclusions? Ego. * i *
Ego = i or I-verse ergo * i * and the i should really be italicized because it is a metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept not and actually space.
Why do seemingly rational, logical common sense people refuse to follow rational logical common sense pathways of thought? Ego.
Go figure and get back to me and * i * and my ego.
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@Outplayz
It's the evil we must do to stop evil or bad behavior.
Admission of something. And during world war 2 I understand your comment above was more common than most realize, however, we are not in a world war now.
USA is not only the dream for many, USA not only has made use of immigrants for 200 plus years it has has a need for immigrants.
You lack empathy, in regards to this thread top and use illegal actions by immigrants as your excuse.
You place no consideration of the degree of illegal or that such a law has any degree of empathetic and moral considerations.
Slavery was legal when it should have been illegal ergo it was immoral what was done those slaves just as it is immoral to seperate children from their families.
If any have jaywalked they broke the law. If any have ever went over the speed-limit they broke the law. The list goes on and on for those that have broke the law with impunity. So we all make choice where to draw the line. If you have more money or power, the line is much fuzzy about where exactly it begins and ends or so wide it is easy to say you on it but have not crossed it.
If were poor and have no authoritative power, then that line is much thinner and judgement comes faster without respect for much else. As we have seen in recent years getting shot for being black. Sick-n-the-head.
Trump is sick in the head as are some percentage of those that voted for him and continue to support him.
Separating children from their parents as border is sick-n-the-head { lacks empathy } policy.
Of course racists and bigots will never agree. That is no surprise, not even to you.
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@Vaarka
Protons { fermionic hadrons/heavy matter } have not been shown to decay of their own accord.
Entropy does not decay photon { occupied space } into non-occupied space existence
At worst, entropy leads our finite, occupied space existence to a singlel very large, longest wave{ longest frequency } ergo lowest energy photon.
This would appear as a very flat photon. See this link to a 3D cubo-octahedron via spinning, torquing, contraction transformation to a 2D, ergo flatten set of seemingly four triangles. http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f6108.html
And the above first goes through this phase http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synergetics/s04/figs/f6008.html
Our finite, occupied space Universe can never ever become non-occupied space.
Physical/energy cannot be created nor lost. Naught is lost or created all is eternal transformation.
The jitterbugging 4-fold cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron ---aka operating system of Universe-- contains/embraces and transforms into the three ---and only three--- primary, fundamental, triangulated, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra Universe.
3-fold tetra{4}hedron > 4 sets of diametrically opposing triangles and vertexes/vertexia
4-fold octa{8}hedron > 4 sets of diametrically opposing triangles
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5-fold icosa{20}hedron > 4 sets of diametrically opposing triangles
The cubo-octahedron also transforms into Euclidean topology of two sine-waves, at 90 degrees to each other, just as we find with a photon { EMRadiation }.
The cubo-octahedron also transforms from positive { convex } Euclidean curvature, into negative { concave } Euclidean curvature aka saddle-shape.
The cubo-octahedron also transforms into clam-shell shape having topoolgy of 4 negative and 4 anti-negative, Euclidean curvatures.
The cubo-octahedron also transforms into a tube pattern via two quasi-octahedra.
The cubo-octahedron also transforms into a seemingly 2D hexagon that has a 7th triangular tail wing set, as if to say, I refuse to collapse into inflexible 2D space only. Its profile from side view, kinda of looks like this ____/\
Remember that, there are other transformations that lead to 2D of triangles only, however, the hexagon specifically, in 2D, has most bonded/valenced set of edges/chords/vectors ergo the most closet-packed space in 2D.
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@RationalMadman
RaMad, your appear to b similar level of rationality and intellectual integrity as Mopac.
Or at least your thought patterns remind of them.
I.e. you have nothing of significance to state that adds to or invalidates my givens as stated.
Very common here at DArt. Waste of head space as well other kinds of space.
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@3RU7AL
However, I will not belabor the point since I believe we agree that everything is technically finite. I also have a logical proof of this if you're interested.
Metaphsycial-2, macro-infinite on-occupied space and finite occupied space Universe.
Until you can make the distinction you are in denial of two primary aspects of actual space. Actual meaning as referenced to any actual 2D area and 3D volumetric space, that, are not a metaphysical-1, concept of space.
So we have three primary kinds of space, of which you are in denial of two of them.
This is where you fall short of rational logical common sense pathways of thoughts regarding space.
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