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@Barney
@ILikePie5
@ILikePie5Ragnar visited you
Confirm?
Anybody else have any important claims?
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Pattern [2/7] Water, Pattern
VTNL [3/7] Greyparrot, That1User, skittlez09,
Speedrace [2/7] - Pattern, oromagi
Greyparrot [1/7] Speedrace
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I'm still generally down for a lynch. Right now, speed and GP are my top candidates although I don't estimate either has even a 50% chance of being scum, just better odds than the rest.
Since a VTNL ought to preceded by maximum data gathering I see little difference in value between VTNL and simply letting the DP expire without a majority vote.
UNVOTE
VTL Speedrace
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@Vader
The game now ends 7/25/20, 6PM CST
the game ends 30 days ago? you are superdaddy
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@Pattern
Btw, I dropped the act already, so I'll just come out with it since like 4 people already know, my cover is blown. This is Lunatic. Roleplaying a character named pattern from the stormlight archive books I have been reading. The character hums a lot and is obsessed with truths and lies. Wanted to try to play the game from a new account to try and see if people would put more effort into lynching; My theory was wrong. I am still being lynched as the most vocal town member. I think I've concluded that people are intimidated by logical back and forths and it's much easier to just lynch without talking or explaining their reasons. The fact that people are wanting to lynch me because they think I am a noob is evidence that really no one is reading the majority of anything I've said lol.
Yay. I am just glad you're not gone
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@Speedrace
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Ragnar is also conspicuously absent. Oh well, we still have until Tuesday night.
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@ILikePie5
If Speed were town he'd be leading the prosecution. But then Speed is never town.
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Crocodile
BearMan
MrChris
Ragnar
skittlez09
SCUM CLAIM
UVC
Greyparrot [1/7] Speedrace
skittlez09 [1/7] oromagi
Pattern [3/7] MisterChris, BearMan, Water
VTNL [3/7] Greyparrot, That1User, skittlez09
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@greyparrot
--> @MisterChrisSure.1) I am part of the Uchiha clan, one of the last remaining.2) I am a prodigy and my peers consider me the strongest.3) I want to kill my brother Itachi as an act of revenge.That's the 3 main things
sounds more like a strongman claim than a tracker. So tracker gets no justification?
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@BearMan
Hol' up. Have we just ignored that GreyParrot has absolutely no reasoning for Sasuke being tracker?
It doesn't resonate because I don't know Naruto. Lay out the case why Sasuke can't be tracker
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oromagi
TOWN CLAIM
WaterPhoenix
Crocodile
Pattern
BearMan
MrChris
Ragnar
skittlez09
SCUM CLAIM
UVC
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [2/7] Speedrace, skittlez09
iLikePie5 [1/7] That1User,
skittlez09 [1/7] oromagi,
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oromagi
Crocodile
Pattern
BearMan
MrChris
Ragnar
skittlez09
SCUM CLAIM
UVC
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [2/7] Speedrace, skittlez09
iLikePie5 [1/7] That1User,
Crocodile [1/7] oromagi,
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@skittlez09
VTL skittlez09
What does TOWN need to know about you?
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2. oromagi
11. Pattern
8. Crocodile
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
3. MrChris
10. Ragnar
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UVC
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [2/7] Speedrace, skittlez09
iLikePie5 [1/7] That1User,
Crocodile [1/7] oromagi,
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@Crocodile
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VTL CROC
what does TOWN need to know about you?
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Pie is now more likely town because he has given us the option of lynching him. If we feel like we should prioritize theme discovery, then Pie is an option at least. I for one, don't prioritize theme discovery until one scum and one town have flipped so I have at least one test of theme. In DP1, I like to prioritize information gathering. Quiet players should all be challenged and I find lynching the quietest newbie has a better chance of hitting scum DP1 than any analysis of theme or gameplay. That said, we should totally expect we will likely kill town DP1 and look for at least one certain advantage that we might glean from that loss.
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@MisterChris
--> @oromagiMaybe not. As you said, Supa never claimed there would be a clear theme split. That said, Pie's character is at least ARGUABLY good
Nevertheless, I think bad guy characters and anti-town roles should claim now. We can see there's a couple of folks at least are going to split the theme whether its warranted or not so we might as well sort out any problematic claims right out front. If that's going to be something TOWN will argue about then we want the option of disproving that theme split sooner.
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@skittlez09
@Crocodile
Im sorry for my inactiveness I was working on making a powerpoint
tell town what they need to know about you now. Think carefully about what town needs to know.
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@MisterChris
@WaterPhoenix
@Crocodile
@BearMan
@Pattern
So....
does that means NOBODY else has any scummy claims on CHARACTER or ROLE that would best be told up front?
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2. oromagi
11. Pattern
8. Crocodile
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
3. MrChris
10. Ragnar
SCUM CLAIM
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Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [2/7] Speedrace, skittlez09
iLikePie5 [2/7] That1User, oromagi
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@ILikePie5
@MisterChris
@BearMan
--> @oromagido have some scummy claim that would best be told up front?Yes as I mentioned earlier, I’m an antagonistic role. And I am Kaguya Otsutsuki.
Thanks for that.
What duz Mr & Bear think of this claim?
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@ILikePie5
do have some scummy claim that would best be told up front?
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2. oromagi
11. Pattern
8. Crocodile
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
3. MrChris
10. Ragnar
5. iLikePie5
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Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
Bearman [2/7] Water, Pattern
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [2/7] Speedrace, skittlez09
iLikePie5 [2/7] That1User, oromagi
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@MisterChris
Oromagi poem… Cryptic message? Also, accuses me off the bat. I chose not to answer the accusation because I felt it wasn’t going anywhere… But Oromagi is a smart strategist. He knows that random accusations are not a smart strategy for a town win. What is his game? That said, Oro’s later statements seem to indicate he is town affiliated. Verdict: Oromagi reads town so far.
I generally VTL Supadudz in the first post of every game. That wasn't an option here so I just started with a newbie. Pressuring newbies is often informative and occasionally devastating to scum.- I used to add the greyparrot rally cry to a lot of games because greyparrot always played. The poem was added here as a welcome back to GreyParrot. Like I just said to Ragnar, TOWN doesn't have to worry about these eccentricities.
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@Barney
--> @oromagiOut of curiosity, why did you remove the link to your hint?I'm pretty sure it's every game you point back to that to prove that you encoded information into it.
The mission is to lock in my claim early. I don't need nor particularly want folks to waste time trying to figure it out. If you claim TRACKER and I am tracker then I want to be able to counterclaim with improved credibility because I locked in my claim long before you made your claim. That ability is not enhanced by TOWN referring back to it as we proceed. When I claim if there's any doubt about my claim I have a very early claim to recall to my credit but otherwise TOWN shouldn't have to think about it.
Also next update should probably change User's link to https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sakura_Haruno
OK, i'm trying both although I'm not sure I want to work that hard
I'm never sure if wiki pages or the original claim are more useful, but either way it's probably best to be consistent.
probably various by circumstance
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@Pattern
--> @MisterChrisOro has been demonstrably pro-town but likely has a character like Danzō, who is an antagonist but loves the Village (or, town).Oro was the one suggesting we should lynch pie based on his antagonistic claim though. That would be hypocritical of him if hos own character was antagonist in anyway.
A vtl is not a promise to lynch. But TOWN with un-town seeming roles and characters should generally claim up front to reduce suspicion in later rounds and help us exclude simple theme splits like good v evil.
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@That1User
--> @ILikePie5OK, so should we agree that if somebody is TOWN and somebody has the character claim PAIN or MADARA then they should make that claim now to avoid deeper suspicion later? Does any other TOWN have some deeply suspicious aspect to their character or role that they ought to claim now?I believe you are Pain or Madara, you said you're an antagonist and town, you should say who your character is.
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@MisterChris
-> @oromagi
I would auto-lynch someone in either of those roles
but you are new so don't realize how seldom theme splits end up that easy to detect. It is entirely possible that there's no theme split at all since SupaDaddy did not promise one. I think the odds of a straightforward theme split are slightly better than usual because we know Supa's been thinking about renewing the beginner games series and simple theme splits are something of an hallmark of beginner games but no, it would be a big mistake to think you've got a handle on theme in DP1.
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@That1User
regulars would agree that it is too early in the game to make any assumptions about theme splits. The guessing doesn't really start until we have flipped at least one scum and at least one town and we are able to compare PMs with confidence.
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@MisterChris
Someone like Pain or Madara is different.
OK, so should we agree that if somebody is TOWN and somebody has the character claim PAIN or MADARA then they should make that claim now to avoid deeper suspicion later? Does any other TOWN have some deeply suspicious aspect to their character or role that they ought to claim now?
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@ILikePie5
@That1User
That's what I feared, a lynching bandwagon instigated by oromagi,
I vtl'd 3rd on greyparrot
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@ILikePie5
I mean I’m pretty confident that all the regulars would agree with me but ok?
You are saying the regulars would agree that the theme is probably good v evil? No, I wouldn't agree.
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2. oromagi
TOWN CLAIM
7. WaterPhoenix
5. iLikePie5
8. Crocodile
3. MrChris
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
10. Ragnar
12. Greyparrot
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Bearman [1/7] Water
Bearman [1/7] Water
WaterPhoenix [1/7] Bear
Greyparrot [4/7] Pattern, That1User, oromagi, skittlez09
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@That1User
-->@oromagiI am not on this listDo you have some vague sense of who you are? You read town to me.
Not really. I read my Naturopedia entry but it was rather heavy on jargon and plot.
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As a general rule, PGO is an anti-Town role because it is more likely to kill Town power roles than scum in all cases except when there are no other Town power roles (in which case it is functionally a Bomb). When town, it is typically considered a negative utility role (and as such is often claimed right at the start of day 1 in order to minimize its impact.)
The ideal play for a PGO is to get targeted by the Mafia, while not being targeted by any Town power roles. However, safer play is to claim directly -- this keeps other Town power roles safe, but also ensures the Mafia will not target you. Note that by claiming, you are opening yourself up to potentially being policy eliminated at some point during the game.
A very risky strategy is to hint at a power role, causing the scum to target you, and, as a 1 for 1 trade with scum is in the town's favor, you will have helped the town..
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2. oromagi
TOWN CLAIM
7. WaterPhoenix
5. iLikePie5
8. Crocodile
3. MrChris
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan Hint?
10. Ragnar
12. Greyparrot
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@BearMan
NarutoSasukeSakuraNejiHinataChojiKakashiRock LeeJiraiya
I am not on this list
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@Speedrace
speed- how are u on this Naruto?
@greyparrot-how are u on this Naruto?
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I know nothin bout Naruto and I'm not going to try to learn more than I need to. I hope somebody in TOWN has a firm grasp on themes and is actively considering ways to probe theme splits
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I would incldue GreyParrot in above but GreyParrot has me blocked.
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@Barney
@That1User
2. oromagi
TOWN
7. WaterPhoenix
11. Pattern
5. iLikePie5
9. Speedrace
8. Crocodile
3. MrChris
1. skittlez09
6. BearMan
AWOL
4. That1User
10. Ragnar
12. Greyparrot
SCUM
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VTL That1User
Let's lynch the last to arrive.
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water bears are cool
man phoenixes are porn stars on coke
phoenix man was killed after being struck by minivan Friday night
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o cum all ye losers
dumb but unrepentant
o cum ye you elephants of
ma ah fee uh
cum be emboldened cuz
greyparrot is play-ay-ying
he might again just shout out
his scum affiliation!
o cum and be emboldened!
Ma... Ah.... Fee uhhhhhhhhhhhh
VTL MrChris
for some data
kcopserdohwj
suddenly
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Instead of ill feelings of anger and shame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of accusing and grousing and flame,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa sup-pa-pa-dudz
Instead of trolls drooling and boozing insane,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
Instead of complaining 'bout raining and pain,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa su-pa-pa-dudz
su-pa-pa dudz papa sup-pa-pa-dudz
Instead of a panic of manics deranged,
put SupaDudz in the hall of fame.
until then this refrain will remain unchanged
put Supadudz in the hall of fame.
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