oromagi

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Who declares Wiki a valid research source  

since they, themselves acknowledge their lack of credibility,

and you know it,

so what's the crowing of Wiki all about?

They're no more valid than Joe Biden.

I'm okay with a drleb lynch. 

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So then you understand why Charizard is an optimal fake claim for me, as well.  Looks like you need a different argument.

No I don't understand why Charizard makes sense for you to believe. If you know pokemon only slightly you know like Charizard and pikachu. Why wouldnt he have been pikachu?

which makes him the optimal fake claim for someone like pie without a deep knowledge of the pokemon universe. 

 Actually watch the Pokémon movie

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I think its too risky. 

Generally don't approve of this lynch. But w/e.

Twelve marines were killed today in Kabul.

After reading his statement response - written for him by whom?

Biden declared he was instructed to take media questions drawn from a list of journalists compiled by his instructors. Instructed by whom?

Maybe the Taliban, since they seem to be calling the shotes the last few days.

What, the President is incapable of taking his own advice on which journalists to call on?

Better he walk away without answering questions, but that begs a question: who is instructing him to do that?

So, let's hear from apologist Democrats.

If Bron is scum, we can both agree that he’s probably not the Enabler.

Now the question is does he connect himself to Supa that early in the game without Supa’s knowledge of it? It’s possible but I’d put only a 5% chance of it happening. Another thing to consider is that Supa heavily sussed Bron for the Enabler claim very early on. Would Supa be willing to bus his scum partner that early in the game? Possible but odds are extremely low.

I can somewhat believe drlebronski's claim, but I also find it hard to believe as well. I know that Enabler was used in one of the mafia games we played and it could be possible that scum gave it to him. I also think Ash is such a broad character to claim and the fact he is the MC means drlebronski could be trying to keep himself alive because Ash will most likely be some form of a power role

Now let’s look at if Bron is town. We would know that Ash must be in the game. Supa did claim last but if you read his FOS post of Bron, in hindsight it looks perfectly like what someone would say as Ash and PR (I practically did the same thing when WF and Supa were scum as Cop). So we know that Supa must be Ash. Question is, would he be a scum power role? It’s conceivable, but highly unlikely. Town-Scum pairings of Enablers and PRs are not only unprecedented, they simply wouldn’t make sense in terms of balance as well especially with 2 scum. 3 scum it’s conceivable but after one mislynch and NK it would be MYLO, which doesn’t make sense.

 if Bron is town, Supa’s gonna be town.

And you being a confirmed townie is good. 

His continuous pressure on a joke that I made and now basing his read off it with his tunnel vision makes me wanna lean scum on him.

The only lean towns I have right now are Wylted and as of now Evilgenius.

Margorie Taylor Greene is one of the few republicans that don't take corporate money so she's not curropt.

MTG believes in some crazy ideas like she supports Qanon, and I don't think this is a plus, I'm just willing to overlook it if she's not curropt.

With this being poly's first game the theme is more likely something like team rocket vs everyone else. I don't think pokemon are scum, I just don't think there are many pokemon in the game at all. 

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what role do you have?

it must be pretty good seeing as you very clearly don't want me voted out.

Then again it bothers me that oro.agi is literally never scum. It seems mathematically impossible for that to happen and yet it does every game

Not willing to lynch Bron ATM, will be fine with Pie

VTL Pie

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In 2020, 155 Democrats and no Republicans refused corporate PAC money.

I know Gaetz and MTG refused corporate money.

 If you consider taking corporate PAC money legalized bribery, then you should be voting for Democrats who are trying to limit corporate election spending not condemning one of politicians who takes the least corporate money.

I support MTG who doesn't take a penny from PACs. 

People say she's crazy for supporting Qanon.  I'm willing to overlook that since she's not curropt.

I was saying power roles like cop and doc should lie about their claim, which is exactly what I did. 

• who were you addressing when you said, "Nah he tweaking" 
  
• Who was the subject of your critique? 
  
• What were the tweak-worthy circumstances?
  

Nah he tweaking

• I disagree with Whiteflame that narrators are characters.  A narrator can be a character but is not necessarily so.  I would say the distinction rests on whether the character has an arc, a narrative.  Would you say that Pokémon's narrator has an arc?  I don't see any sign of one.

• On a similar note, SupaDudz claimed Ash last.  Maybe that was the smart way to go but he gets no increase in TOWN cred for it.  It was easy to claim Ash at that point and again, there was an established expectation for that role.

• I disagree that charizard is inherently more sus than claiming Pikachu and then Officer Jenny. 
  
• Claiming Jenny AFTER everybody else has claimed and AFTER it has been established that Jenny is an expected character buy no town cred whatsoever.  Nothing about this switch should improve TUF in the eyes of TOWN, true or false.
  
• TUF was home safe with a solid false claim but decided to reveal Ofc Jenny just to increase sus on Pie?  Why?  That is an act that stinks of the confidence of scum and not the inherent uncertainty of TOWN.  I don't buy that TUF was so thoroughly convinced  that Pie must be scum just based on character claim.  I mean, he is selling it well enough but is mute/non mute characters really a convincing division?  Why ignore pokemon vs  humans, the more obvious division?  And if that's the division that convinces TUF, he should be just as willing to lynch Disc as Pie, right?  If TUF has the the role implied by Jenny's character then MILLER makes more sense, enough to make mewtwo at least possible TOWN early on.  What is the distinction that makes charizard distinctly more scummy than the non-season1 mewtwo, or the non-character narrator?  TUF's tunnel does not seem to be grounded in a persuasive case.
  

Just now from DART, I got an ad that stated that Amy Klobuchar wants to end citizens united

URGENT PETITION: END CITIZENS UNITED | End Citizens United

Citizens united is the supreme court case that allowed corruption in the US government.

Studies have shown that the Citizens United ruling gave Republicans an advantage in subsequent elections. One study by political scientists at University of Chicago, Columbia University and the London School of Economics found "that Citizens United increased the GOP's average seat share in the state legislature by five percentage points. That is a large effect—large enough that, were it applied to the past twelve Congresses, partisan control of the House would have switched eight times. In line with a previous study, we also find that the vote share of Republican candidates increased three to four points, on average." A 2016 study in the Journal of Law and Economics found "that Citizens United is associated with an increase in Republicans’ election probabilities in state house races of approximately 4 percentage points overall and 10 or more percentage points in several states. We link these estimates to on-the-ground evidence of significant spending by corporations through channels enabled by Citizens United."  According to a 2020 study, the ruling boosted the electoral success of Republican candidates

"At bottom, the Court's opinion is thus a rejection of the common sense of the American people, who have recognized a need to prevent corporations from undermining self government since the founding, and who have fought against the distinctive corrupting potential of corporate electioneering since the days of Theodore Roosevelt. It is a strange time to repudiate that common sense. While American democracy is imperfect, few outside the majority of this Court would have thought its flaws included a dearth of corporate money in politics"

"Opposition to unlimited political spending is neither a liberal nor a conservative issue. In recent surveys, Americans across the political spectrum say there should be limits on the amount of money individuals and corporations can spend on campaigns, that big donors have more influence than others, and that political corruption is the biggest crisis facing the nation. A constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United is backed by 66 percent of Republican voters, "

So why am I calling her a hypocrite?  Because she is very curropt herself.  About $130,000 of the money she raised is from PACs.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar - Campaign Finance Summary • OpenSecrets

She is railing against the corruption and the swamp that she herself is part of.  Typical politician. 

Lying to your face about being agreeable and then being the exact thing she thinks is wrong with the country. 

What a joke.  Don't trust career politicians like Klobuchar.

Yeah cat's out of the bag then.

 I have a pm based reason to suspect the Charizard claim highly. 

claims a character that stands out as much as Charizard