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-> @oromagi

I'm not certain whether is Johnson is writing about himself.

Interesting post. 

He did a follow up today:

saying :  "In the last twenty-four hours, over a quarter of a million people have read the ‘I’m done‘ post. One cop wrote to me anonymously. These are their words.

I’m done too.

Biden failed to ever acknowledge the Armenian Genocide.

Trump just fully supported Turkey, which was my biggest critique of Trump. But at least he didn't lie

• In fact, Trump illegally quashed Federal investigations into Turkish violations of Iran Sanctions.  Erdogan's bankers illegally took and hid Iran's oil money in violations of sanctions against Iran's nuclear weapons program.  Erdogan passed out tens of millions of dollars in bribes to make officials look away.  When Turkey lobbied BIden in 2016 to drop the charges, Biden joked that such an interference in US justice would get him impeached.  When Turkey lobbied Trump in 2017, Erdogan wrote a check out to Trump Towers Istanbul  (That is, Trump's personal accounts) and Trump sent a couple of lawyers down to crash the case.  When prosecutors refused to give up, Trump fired them. That's not full support, that is a corrupt business transaction. Trump took an Iranian bribe that lets Iranian leaders stay in power from black market oil while publicly re-instating sanctions and assassinating the guys who bribed him. 
  
• Trump abandoned allies in Northern Syria immediately after a call from Erdogan 2 years later and without first consulting the Pentagon or State Dept or Congress.  Whether the dictator had to cut Trump another check for that service is unknown but it is clear who was giving orders and who was taking. 
  
• It is ridiculous to say that Trump didn't lie on any topic.  Trump is the most prolific liar in recorded history.  For example, when Trump took Erdogan's bribe and then exposed 20,000 Kurdish allies of 30 years  to swift destruction by Erdogan, Trump falsely claimed that the Kurds were releasing ISIS prisoners when in fact, Turkish allies had done that.  US Intelligence told Trump one thing was true, an evil dictator who had recently written Trump a fat check said the opposite.  Trump chose to promote Erdogan's lies on FOX News in direct contradiction to the truth and the US Government.
  

If he goes through his 100th debate with Whiteflame as rated and loses, beating him will be much easier.

Objective: lynch self until no mimes left.

--> @SupaDudz

Mime Mafia

You are town. You win with town.

Censorship is the fundamental of cancel culture.

So, as an example, we cancel Disney's "Dumbo" for a crow named Jim,

only, "Jim" as a name was replaced by "Dandy,"

and in the end, neither "Dandy" nor "Jim" are ever mentioned in the film. So, C.C. has censored "Dumbo" for a non-existent cause; someone's wish balloon.

Does that mean C.C. is a black hole?

if this is the case, [Trump] did a damn poor job of it

yesterday Jim Jordan and Ken Buck sent a letter to Amazon demanding answers

Do conservatives still believe in [free market] ?

If so, what exactly is supposed to be done about it and why do republican politicians seem to expect that you will vote for them over this?

If you were able to see all past, present and future simultaneously, it would be static.

We don’t need to be of one mind to acknowledge things change relatively.

Even if our experiences vary.

Actually, the concept of the French idiom would make an interesting debate. Interested?

--> @oromagi

plus ca change plus c'est la meme chose

the more that changes, the more it's the same thing. - A French idiom

The grass is greener on the other side of the hill.

Even when you're on the other side of the hill, thus demonstrating the above. 

I'm in my 72nd year. I can say a lot has changed, but can also say that it's been much the same, just different in style, but not much in substance.

Yeah, I'd say change is debatable. 

--> @oromagi

The universe is singular including time. Past, present, and future exist equally. 

• singularities are not static
  
• we see that black holes grow or shrink depending on the angular momentum of material sucked
  
• If you and I were the same component of singularity, we would be of one mind.
  
• If we were of one mind, we'd agree that things chance.
  

Yeah this makes sense because since 2008 Democrats have absolutely been hemorrhaging rural voters and republicans have been hemorrhaging suburban voters. Rural areas have a much lower cost of living which skews the numbers quite a bit—compare the lifestyles of someone making $53,000 in rural Arkansas with someone making $61,000 in a New York City suburb. 

Saying “democratic districts” vs “republican districts” is a very silly metric because many of these are ideologically diverse places. Using house districts for anything is breathtakingly ignorant of American politics.

Very convenient timing you use, starting in 2008 which was about the peak Democratic performance in rural areas in this century and stop in 2018 right after they won a bunch of historically red suburban districts.

I would be interested to see these numbers after the 2020 election, when Republicans flipped a dozen of these suburban districts back.

A more honest metric is to look at who votes red and who votes blue. What you’ll see is that Republicans win rich households, Democrats win poor households,  and for both parties these  advantages have been declining as America becomes less polarized by income and more polarized by ideology.   

but really I object to this entire characterization. I can all but guarantee that I make more money than you do, have a higher education, and have more wealth. Does that make my opinion worth more than yours? What a bizarre sentiment coming from a progressive lol

> @oromagi

CANCEL CULTURE is not "first an attempt to destroy language." 

I am, personally, a victim of removal of a narration of my own poetry from YouTube because it's subject is Jesus Christ. Tell me poetry is not language

It is not a leap to understand that both consider the history of the US is that all Blacks were ostracized as slaves, because no where on either of their sites do they acknowledge that there were, antebellum, free Blacks.

• Black Lives Matter does not seem to be making any assertion about 18th century America period.  When BLM says black people are being targeted, the term is inclusive of descendents of free blacks as well as postbellum migration.  Why would BLM even bother to mention that not every black person 300 years ago were slaves?  What's the relevance?
  
• 1619 Project does not deny that free blacks existed.  In fact, I have already found multiple mentions of free blacks just scanning those articles.
  
• Daryl Pickney speaks of a black woman schoolteacher from Boston who's family is richer than either the union camp's colonel or surgeon.
  
• Nikole Hannah-Jones notes that Lincoln invited five of the most esteemed free black men to the White House to consult on the form and manner of the proposed emancipation proclamation
  
• Tyehimba Jess writes a poem from the 1816 perspective of free black Seminoles of Negro Fort, Fl.
  
• Therefore, it is false to say that the 1619 Project denies the existence of free antebellum black peoples.
  
• Science News notes that there were only three racial categories “white” people, “other free people” and “slaves.”  Science News does not note that free black people were counted as other free people but that's a gigantic leap from your claim that Science News denies free antebellum black populations.
  
• We can be confidant that Science News does not deny the existence of antebellum free black populations because other recent articles by that magazine acknowledge the existence of free black peoples.
  
• For example, Bruce Bower mentions "free people of color" as one of the three major racially derived social divisions in antebellum New Orleans as part of his discussion of COVID in the context of historical plagues.
  

Good Lord, have you no sense of the content of the Constitution? That white men., white women bullshyte  is not what the Constitution says, that's what 1619 project, and that article I cited erroneously claim the Constitution says. Get it??? Read: Article I, section 2, clause 3. You will find no mention of "Black," no mention of "White," no mention of "race." That's BLM and 16519 Project-speak. Try to keep up.

• You said "thee United States’ first Census [clearly did not ] [have] racial demographics." 
  
• I countered that 3 of first census' 5 categories specified a race ("white").  So you are wrong.
  
• You say well, what about the Constitution?  Total non-sequitur.
  
• Your original claim that the first census did not have racial demographics is disproved.
  

--> @oromagi

if you want to call it CANCEL CULTURE then you must be able to identify at least one human target for ostracism

The following is excerpted from my book, “Faux Law,” Chapter 17, regarding the 13A:

 We do not have, from that 1790 Census, the separate racial counting of the “whole Number of free persons,” but it was clearly more than just white people. It included not only some Blacks, but taxed Indians, as well. It may have counted a few Asians, and perhaps others; who knows? 

However, such facts do not fit the article’s stated paradigm that the United States’ first Census had racial demographics. It clearly did not.

If you think Wylted is racist, or whatever other many things I've heard, debate him, beat him in said debate, let the world see and vote on why your opinion is better. Even if you didn't changed wylteds mind maybe you'll change someone elses, and that's worth something. That's a positive reason for a debate site to exist.

• I don't  envy the MODs their task of even-handed management of inter-DART relations and I don't think I'd do a better job at it myself so I tend to support the MODs judgement as much as possible.  I
  
• I agree that this particular example does not seem particularly damnable but I am highly skeptical that there's some future in which Wylted returns as a law-abiding citizen.
  
• Wylted is such an relentless escalator- give-him-an-inch-and-he'll-take-a-mile kind of personality that I have no doubt he will always eventually end up meriting  any ban. 
  
• the secret alt'ing by itself is a major violation.
  
• I also personally feel no responsibility to learn the ages of DARTers for to adjust my behavior accordingly.    I consider this an adult site and neither encourage nor condemn younger participation so long as I can remain unburdened by their age. 
  
• I often enjoyed interacting with Wylted and his many alt's but I've seen too many compulsively offensive trolls like Wylted to believe that any parole might prove worthwhile
  

--> @oromagi

Mines win when they lynch themselves

-> @oromagi @zedvictor4

Culture is perpetuated more by language than it is by objects. Language is created by culture. Seems to me, the cancellation of culture is, first, an attempt to destroy language of a particular word or set of words, as if they never existed, as opposed to merely forgetting it/them, and as an effort to pretend the word or thing never existed in the first place. For example, the notion by Black Lives Matter, and the 1619 Project, that, in America, all Blacks were slaves, and all slaves were Black. Neither concept is or was not true, but the suggestion carries an agenda that is meant to be believed as a justification for the agenda. Self-serving in every respect.

A less-charged example is the invention of the computer peripheral device known as a "mouse," called such because, when invented, it was a wired device, which wire trailed from the front-end of the device, making a not-so-obvious comparison to the animal [the animal's tail is at the back-end] when, in fact, the the animal and the device have no relation to one another but for a vague visual similarity. However, the term is still used as a wireless device [without tail], so even that similarity is no longer the case. So one should not wonder when my grand daughter, now 10, asked me at 4 why the device presented to her as wireless, was called a "mouse." Perfectly curious question that can only be given a dumb answer.  Since I still had [and have] a perfectly operating Macintosh [classic from 1985], I could show her the original concept of the wired device. She, appropriately, said, "That's silly. The tail is coming from it's head." Zounds, the innocence of youth!

• I certainly think the 1619 Project is vulnerable to criticism of overstating the influence of the slave trade on the causes of 1776 (as its authors have conceded) but I'm vague on what person is being exluded (or even which words are being destroyed) by that NY Times series.  I haven't read those articles since they came out but can you point me to where in those articles it is stated that all blacks were enslaved and all slaves black?  Seems to me that would have held my attention.  I don't see any evidence for your claim.
  
• For accuracy, any responsible historian must certainly prefer the Times' 1619 Project to the Trump Administration's propagandized response in the 1776 Project. No history professor could try to teach that line of bullshit and expect to keep her job.
  
• No persons are being excluded from any social set because computer pointers no longer resemble mice.
  

Mimes with when they lynch themselves.

I’ll give Oro till noon cst tomorrow

Yaaaa I’m more of a Walking Dead person

I haven’t lol 

--> @n8nrgmi

I perceive, simply by a map of counties and overlaid political stripe by election results, that democrat counties are laden with heavy industry, mixed with residential, whereas Republican counties are primarily residential with light industry and retail trade. That, in and of itself, explains you GDP comparison. Do you really expect that the corner Mom/Pop grocer has the GDP of GM? Come on, man.

• Blue counties contribute 40% more per individual to the US economy than red counties. Blue county output has increased 20% since 2008 while red counties flatlined.
  
• Share of individuals with college degrees increased 25% since 2008 in BLUE counties.  Flatlined in RED counties.
  
• 71% of workers in BLUE counties are in professional and digital services.  Less than 29% in RED counties.
  
• BLUE counties no longer hold most of US manufacturing jobs and now only represent 43.6%.
  
• BLUE counties also significantly shed much of their agricultural and mining sectors since 2008.
  
• BLUE counties overall are 50% non-white, 20% foreign-born.  RED counties are 27% non-white and 8% foreign-born.
  
• In short, BLUE counties are better educated, more productive, more technically literate, younger, and richer than RED counties so it makes sense that BLUE counties are rapidly outpacing RED counties in GDP.
  

most people travel from surrounding red counties to work in blue counties.

Go back to the source you got that statistic from and check to see if it was GDP or GDP per capita.

• Democratic districts have seen their median household income soar in a decade—from $54,000 in 2008 to $61,000 in 2018. By contrast, the income level in Republican districts began slightly higher in 2008, but then declined from $55,000 to $53,000.
  
• “Blue” territories have seen their productivity climb from $118,000 per worker in 2008 to $139,000 in 2018. Republican-district productivity, by contrast, remains stuck at about $110,000.