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Governor Phil Scott [R-VT]:
President Trump should resign or be removed from office by his Cabinet, or by the Congress.
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Governor Larry Hogan [R-MD]:
There’s no question that America would be better off if the president would resign or be removed from office. I could never fathom a day like yesterday in America, but I will not stand for it, and neither should any American.
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The Washington Post:
The president is unfit to remain in office for the next 14 days. Every second he retains the vast powers of the presidency is a threat to public order and national security
Americans put on their seat belts, follow traffic laws, pay taxes and vote because of faith in a system — and that faith makes it work. The highest voice in the land incited people to break that faith, not just in tweets, but by inciting them to action. Mr. Trump is a menace, and as long as he remains in the White House, the country will be in danger.
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New York Times:
The threat the president poses to our democracy is not short-lived and must be cut off urgently and decisively — before it leads to even greater degradation to American democratic processes and traditions. It will need to happen quickly, even with other demands pressing on our country’s leadership like certifying the election results, rolling out the coronavirus vaccine and calming a nation in crisis.
To do this, the cabinet and Congress must deploy the 25th Amendment and impeachment in sequence.
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Former US Attorney General William Barr:
Orchestrating a mob to pressure Congress is inexcusable, the President’s conduct yesterday was a betrayal of his office and supporters.
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United Kingdom Prime MInister Boris Johnson:
All my life America has stood for some very important things. An idea of freedom, an idea of democracy.
In so far as he encouraged people to storm the Capitol, and in so far as the president has consistently cast doubt on the outcome of a free and fair election, I believe that was completely wrong.
I believe what President Trump has been saying about that has been completely wrong and I unreservedly condemn encouraging people to behave in the disgraceful way that they did in the Capitol.
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Rep. Adam Kinzinger, [R-Ill]:
The president not only abdicated his duty to protect the American people and the people's house, he invoked and inflamed passions that gave fuel to the insurrection we saw here. When pressed to move and denounce the violence he barely did so, while of course victimizing himself ... all indications are that the president has become unmoored, not just from his duty, or even his health, but from reality itself.
It is for this reason that I call for the vice president and members of the cabinet to ensure that the next few weeks are safe for the American people, and that we have a sane captain of the ship.
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Speaker of the House Pelosi:
I join the Senate Democratic leader in calling on the vice president to remove this president by immediately invoking the 25th amendment. If the vice president and Cabinet do not act, the Congress may be prepared to move forward with impeachment. That is the overwhelming sentiment of my caucus, and the American people.
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Inbound Senate Majority Leader Schumer:
What happened at the U.S. Capitol yesterday was an insurrection against the United States, incited by the president, this president should not hold office one day longer.
The quickest and most effective way — it can be done today — to remove this president from office would be for the vice president to immediately invoke the 25th Amendment. If the Vice President and the Cabinet refuse to stand up, Congress should reconvene to impeach the president.
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@Wagyu
If your ability to discern truth from fiction is so broken, then accept Mitch McConnell's assertions, made 5 minutes before his fellow Republicans broke down the doors.
"We’re debating a step that has never been taken in American history, whether Congress should overrule the voters and overturn a presidential election. I’ve served 36 years in the Senate. This will be the most important vote I’ve ever cast.
Trump claims the election was stolen. The assertions range from specific local allegations to constitutional arguments to sweeping conspiracy theories.
I’ve supported the president’s right to use the legal system, dozens of lawsuits, perceived hearings in courtrooms all across our country. But over and over, the courts rejected these claims — including all-star judges whom the president himself has nominated. Every election we know features some illegality and irregularity, and of course that’s unacceptable. I support strong, state-led voting reforms. Last year’s bizarre pandemic procedures must not become the new norm.
But, my colleagues, nothing before us proves illegality anywhere near the massive scale — the massive scale — that would have tipped the entire election. Nor can public doubt alone justify a radical break, when the doubt itself was incited without any evidence. The Constitution gives us here in Congress a limited role. We cannot simply declare ourselves a national board of elections on steroids.
The voters, the courts and the states have all spoken. They’ve all spoken. If we overrule them, it would damage our republic forever.
This election actually was not unusually close. Just in recent history, 1976, 2000 and 2004 were all closer than this one. The electoral college margin is almost identical to what it was in 2016. If this election were overturned by mere allegations from the losing side, our democracy would enter a death spiral. We’d never see the whole nation accept an election again. Every four years would be a scramble for power at any cost. The electoral college, which most of us on this side have been defending for years, would cease to exist, leaving many of our states with no real say at all in choosing a president. The effects would go even beyond the elections themselves.
Self-government, my colleagues, requires a shared commitment to the truth. And a shared respect for the ground rules of our system. We cannot keep drifting apart into two separate tribes with a separate set of facts and separate realities with nothing in common except our hostility towards each other and mistrust for the few national institutions that we all still share.
Every time — every time in the last 30 years that Democrats have lost a presidential race, they’ve tried to challenge just like this. After 2000, after 2004, after 2016. After 2004, a senator joined and forced the same debate, and believe it or not, Democrats like Harry M. Reid, Richard J. Durbin and Hillary Clinton praised them and applauded the stunt. Republicans condemned those baseless efforts back then, and we just spent four years condemning Democrats’ shameful attempts of the validity of President Trump’s own election. So, look, there can be no double standard.
The media that is outraged today spent four years aiding and abetting Democrats’ attacks on our institutions after they lost. But we must not imitate and escalate what we repudiate. Our duty is to govern for the public good. The United States Senate has a higher calling than an endless spiral of partisan vengeance. Congress will either override the voters, overrule the voters, the states and the courts for the first time ever, or honor the people’s decision. We’ll either guarantee Democrats’ delegitimizing efforts after 2016 become a permanent new routine for both sides or declare that our nation deserves a lot better than this. We’ll either hasten down a poisonous path where only the winners of an election actually accept the results or show we can still muster the patriotic courage that our forebears showed not only in victory but in defeat.
The framers built the Senate to stop short-term passions from boiling over and melting the foundations of our republic.
So I believe protecting our constitutional order requires respecting the limits of our own power. It would be unfair and wrong to disenfranchise American voters and overrule the courts and the states on this extraordinarily thin basis. And I will not pretend such a vote would be a harmless protest gesture while relying on others to do the right thing. I will vote to respect the people’s decision and defend our system of government as we know it."
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Republican insurrectionists taking down American flags flying over the US Capitol and putting up the Trump flags, Confederate flags. Pretty much says it all. VP Pence (who's secret service agents were obligated to protect the VP during the execution of a constitutionally mandated act from an attack launched by the President today) should remove Trump from office via 25th amendment provisions on a priority basis. Or shall we wait for the next previously unthinkable escalation? God bless and defend America from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Was there ever a time in US history when any one individual represented such a clear and present danger to our Nation?
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But Mousie, thou art no thy-lane,
In proving foresight may be vain:
The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men
Gang aft agley,
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@Theweakeredge
-> @oromagiI was referring to the specific paper written by Lott.
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That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Ronald Reagan and George Washington have it wrong, radical Chinese occultists have it right. But Republicans will still deny its them that has drifted from our core American principles.
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@Dr.Franklin
those conservatives were at a different time, a time were free trade didnt kill american jobsgeorge wahsington was big on protectionism
Gosh you're just wrong about everything today
Washington wraps up his foreign policy stance by advocating free trade with all nations, arguing that trade links should be established naturally and the role of the government should be limited to ensuring stable trade, defending the rights of American merchants and any provisions necessary to ensure the conventional rules of trade:"Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing; establishing (with powers so disposed, in order to give trade a stable course, to define the rights of our merchants, and to enable the government to support them) conventional rules of intercourse, the best that present circumstances and mutual opinion will permit, but temporary, and liable to be from time to time abandoned or varied, as experience and circumstances shall dictate; constantly keeping in view that it is folly in one nation to look for disinterested favors from another; that it must pay with a portion of its independence for whatever it may accept under that character; that, by such acceptance, it may place itself in the condition of having given equivalents for nominal favors, and yet of being reproached with ingratitude for not giving more. There can be no greater error than to expect or calculate upon real favors from nation to nation. It is an illusion, which experience must cure, which a just pride ought to discard."
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@Dr.Franklin
@oromagifalun gong was promoted by the CCP to make their citizens more religious because guess what-state atheism kills motivation and happiness. that doesnt disprove the sourcealso it isnt questionable, that is a lie
brah, don't get your news from people who think aliens are secretly hiding among us. All you need to disprove the article is the article itself: it doesn't report "Trump claims fraud" it reports "there is fraud because Trump claims it."
that's bullshit toadyism in any country, language, or religion.
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@Danielle
@Dr.Franklin
--> @Daniellea republican supporting amnesty, free trade, endelss wars, etc
Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, WIlliam F Buckley, Ronald Reagan are now made Republicans in Name Only. Since the GOP has neglected to write a party platform for the last two elections (the 2016 party platform was the 2012 party platform except Manafort removed GOP criticisms of Russia, no 2020 party platform was ever published) I suppose all Republicans are technically RINOs because there is no platform by which one might test ideology.
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@Dr.Franklin
The Epoch Times is published by the Falun Gong, a Chinese religious movement based out of a 400 acre walled in compound in upstate NY. Falun Gong teaches that aliens have been inhabiting human bodies since the early 20th century and opposes human rights for women.
mediabias/factcheck:
Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.
Readers should be sure to notice (if you are willing to give Falun Gong your email address which I would not recommend) that the Epoch TImes cites Trump as the source of the claim. That is the primary source backing Trump's claims of voter fraud is Trump's claims of voter fraud.
This citation only discredits the claim of voter fraud.
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Opinion by
George F. Will
Columnist
Jan. 4, 2021 at 2:39 p.m. MST
On a conference call last Thursday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told his caucus that, in his 36 Senate years, he has twice cast votes to take the nation to war and once to remove a president, but that the vote he will cast this Wednesday to certify Joe Biden’s electoral college victory will be the most important of his career. McConnell (R-Ky.) understands the recklessness of congressional Republicans who are fueling the doubts of a large majority of Republicans about the legitimacy of the 2020 election.
The day before McConnell’s somber statement, Missouri’s freshman Republican senator, Josh Hawley, announced that on Wednesday, 14 days before Biden will be inaugurated, he will challenge the validity of Biden’s election. Hawley’s conscience regarding electoral proprieties compels him to stroke this erogenous zone of the GOP’s 2024 presidential nominating electorate.
Hawley’s stance quickly elicited panicky emulation from Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz, another 2024 aspirant. Cruz led 10 other senators and senators-elect in a statement that presents their pandering to what terrifies them (their Trumpkin voters) as a judicious determination to assess the “unprecedented allegations” of voting improprieties, “allegations” exceeding “any in our lifetimes.”
So, allegations in sufficient quantity, although of uniformly risible quality, validate senatorial grandstanding that is designed to deepen today’s widespread delusions and resentments. While Hawley et al. were presenting their last-ditch devotion to President Trump as devotion to electoral integrity, Trump was heard on tape browbeating noncompliant Georgia election officials to “find” thousands of votes for him. Awkward.
Never mind. Hawley — has there ever been such a high ratio of ambition to accomplishment? — and Cruz have already nimbly begun to monetize their high-mindedness through fundraising appeals.
For many years, some people insisted that a vast conspiracy, not a lone gunman, masterminded the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy near the grassy knoll in Dallas’s Dealey Plaza. To these people, the complete absence of evidence proved the conspiracy’s sophistication. They were demented. Today’s senatorial Grassy Knollers — Hawley, with Cruz and others panting to catch up — are worse. They are cynical.
They know that every one of the almost 60 Trump challenges to the election has been rebuffed in state and federal courts, including the Supreme Court, involving more than 90 judges, nominated by presidents of both parties. But for scores of millions of mesmerized Trump Republicans, who think the absence of evidence is the most sinister evidence, this proves that the courts, too, are tentacles of the “deep state.” Hawley and Cruz, both of whom clerked for chief justices of the Supreme Court, hope to be wafted into the White House by gusts of such paranoia.
As does Vice President Pence, who says about Hawley et al.: Me, too. To fathom Pence’s canine devotion to Trump, watch a video from June 7, 2018. Seated next to Trump in a meeting, Pence saw Trump take his water bottle off the table and place it on the floor. So, Pence did likewise. Google the 22-second video. It is a sufficient Pence biography.
Republican Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb.) obliquely but scaldingly said of Hawley: “Adults don’t point a loaded gun at the heart of legitimate self-government.” America’s three-party system — Democrats, Hawley-Cruz Republicans, and McConnell-Sasse Republicans — will continue to take shape on Wednesday. Watch how many of these Republican senators who might be seeking reelection in 2022 have the spine to side with the adults against Hawley-Cruz et al. and the Grassy Knollers among their constituents: John Boozman, Richard Burr, Mike Crapo, Charles E. Grassley, John Hoeven, Mike Lee, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, Rand Paul, Rob Portman, Marco Rubio, Tim Scott, Richard C. Shelby, John Thune, Todd C. Young. By aligning with Cruz, four — Ron Johnson, John Neely Kennedy, James Lankford and Kelly Loeffler — have reserved their seats at the children’s table.
Hawley, Cruz and company have perhaps rescued Biden from becoming the first president in 32 years to begin his presidency without his party controlling both houses of Congress. On Tuesday, Georgians will decide control of the Senate. While they have been watching Republican attempts to delegitimize Biden’s election (two recounts have confirmed that Georgians favor Biden), Republicans were telling them: a) elections in the world’s oldest constitutional democracy, and especially in Georgia, are rigged, but b) the nation’s fate depends on their turning out for Tuesday’s (presumptively) sham run-off Senate elections, lest c) Democrats take control of the Senate and behave badly.
Be that as it may, on Wednesday, the members of the Hawley-Cruz cohort will violate the oath of office in which they swore to defend the Constitution from enemies “foreign and domestic.” They are its most dangerous domestic enemies.
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Oromagi
TOWN
SupaDudz
whiteflame Disturbing the Peace
Lunatic Corruption
warren42
Speedrace
ILikePie5
drafterman (scum version)
Danielle
AWoL
That1User
SCUM
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@Lunatic
is kind of relevant to current/semi current events.
That's interesting because I'd say the same thing about my crime- relevant to current US news.
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@Stephen
@oromagiDo your nurse relatives suppose they are being unnecessarily duped inNo. They know they have been sent home or told not to turn up because " there is nothing to do" and that there are " more than enough hands on deck".I am sure that after all of the world wide pandemics that you have lived through you may be able to tell us;
I am a gay man old enough to have seen a lot of friends and lovers die because of mass denialism and anti-science by conservative politicians during a pandemic. So in spite of your sarcasm, it is true that I have lived through a few world wide pandemics. Certainly, I have witnessed how 32 million can die without ever filling up the hospitals.
are those makeshift Nightingale hospitals running at full capacity?
So now the goalpost has shifted from hospitals at full capacity to overflow facilities at full capacity? Although the NHS has been ramping up the Nightingales a bit during the last few weeks, this solution was only ever likely to be effective if coronavirus spiked in one region but not others. That's because nightingale hospitals have to be staffed to the same standard as any other NHS hospitals and when the pandemic has spread everywhere, there is simply no staff available. For example, the NHS started 2020 with about 50,000 unfilled nursing jobs, a 16% shortfall with another 30-35,000 nurses absent (more than half due to COVID). What's the point of putting up new hospitals when the present hospitals only have about 2/3rds of the requisite staff?
Are they as reliable as the BBC?
Like I said, I looked at a lot of sources, including a lot of local stuff and political stuff that I wouldn't trust as well as the BBC but generally yes.
Matron at a London Hospital: "We now have a wards full of children here".
Laura Duffel misspoke. While the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health does have several wards devoted to COVID patient overflow, these patients are adults. There are still relatively few cases of children very ill with coronavirus. They have wards full of COVID patients and wards full of children but very few children with COVID.
Consultant at the same hospital: " This is simply not true and is irresponsible ".'Simply untrue': London children's hospital consultant blasts 'irresponsible' nurse who gave BBC radio interview claiming she saw 'a whole ward of children' with coronavirus
- Paediatrician Dr Ronny Cheung blasted 'lies' around children with Covid-19
- He said there were not 'wards' filled with children suffering from coronavirus
- A matron at a London hospital claimed she was seeing 'whole wards' of children
- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9106509/Coronavirus-London-childrens-hospital-consultant-says-wards-NOT-youngsters-Covid.html
While I'd encourage you to never look to the Daily Mail for any kind of honest reporting of any kind I'm glad you are willing to believe at least one heath professional.
Will you continue to believe Dr. Ronny Cheung when he retweets, "My hospital is full of covid. But the patients are not children." ?
or
"I have modicum of sympathy for those suspicious of #COVID19 overdiagnosis - that at least is within realms of possibility. But ppl who cry massive sophisticated cover up, with whole NHS orchestrating fake full ICUs when it's all empty, that's just nuts. We still use pagers, ffs" ?
Your own source says quite succinctly that your theories are "just nuts"
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@janesix
Why do you atheists always deny the Christian God and make all of your arguments against that particular God?
They don't, but any English language site is bound to skew the conversation towards Christian examples.
There are many many versions of God you guys never even address.
For example?
It seems like most atheists are deconverted Christians, whining"You're not the boss of me!" Well?
deconversion is the rejection of a particular faith while Atheism rejects faith-based cosmologies generally.
whining suggests a complaint while the statement "You are not the boss of me" is generally a declaration of independence. I think it is likely that many atheists are predisposed to both complain about and declare independence from a former religious belief much as one might complain about and declare independence from an ex-lover or estranged parent. When one loses a tooth, the tongue probes the wound obsessively unless and until a new tooth grows in. So it goes when one loses a belief.
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This definition makes all non-atheistic world views seem ungrounded and religious
seem?
While an atheist raised to believe in randomness or a multiverse, would be considered as "free-thinking, not relying on faith but instead proof"
randomness is just an assertion that no pattern has been discerned.
Anybody who asserts that the multiverse theory is true based on present evidence is making a "faith-based" assertion. Faith is belief in spite of the absence of proof.
Gods existance is a binary question with only non-emperical evidence from both sides.
What is the non-empirical evidence for God?
Lexico.com is an abridged, free version of OED. I'm comfortable sticking with the Oxford definition.
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I think the theme is non-violent crimes vs violent crimesOr crimes that are on the lesser end of the spectrum in terms of severity (either objectively or in Bullish' opinion)
OK, perhaps can we test this theory. I'm TOWN and my crime is generally non-violent. Does any TOWN want to state that they have a violent crime for character claim or any SCUM want to state that their crime is non-violent?
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@Benjamin
As we know, society today is far worse (with regards to happiness and stability) than ever before.
false
Gay people were not oppressed in the past, they did not know what the concept of "gay" means.
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@Benjamin
Wath this 2 minute long video and you will be shocked."Gay people should be protected" - strange man in military uniform
The Onion is a satirical news source. This a joke video from 12 years ago.
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@Danielle
@whiteflame
Well, That1User hasn't even been on the last 6 days, which doesn't bode well for our debate or for her in this game.
UNVOTE
VTL Danielle for AWoL
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@Speedrace
--> @oromagiWhy would it be named Antifa? The role function, sure, but I don't see why you would go from a crime as the character to an organization as the role
Well the singular form of ANTIFA is Berkeley lesbian but then the joke stops making sense.
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@Speedrace
--> @oromagi
I guess your role is ANTIFA. So long as you remain in the game, the COP's results are INSANE
That's not a role lol
"game may have custom roles"
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I'd say I'm
Very low on Conscientiousness
impulsive, disorganized
High on Agreeableness
trusting, helpful
Very high on Neuroticism
anxious, pessimistic
Very high on Openness to Experience
imaginative, spontaneous
Very low on Extraversion
reserved, thoughtful
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@MisterChris
I don't really buy into this stuff. When I used to work for Merrill-Lynch they were really into building teams based on MBTI and the results were grimly bro-tastic. I get different results every test.
From MBTI wikipedia page
"Most of the research supporting the MBTI's validity has been produced by the Center for Applications of Psychological Type, an organization run by the Myers-Briggs Foundation, and published in the center's own journal, the Journal of Psychological Type, raising questions of independence, bias, and conflict of interest. Independent sources have called the test "little more than a Chinese fortune cookie", "pretty much meaningless", "one of the worst personality tests in existence," and "the fad that won't die".
Though the MBTI resembles some psychological theories, it has been criticized as pseudoscienceand is not widely endorsed by academic researchers in the field. The indicator exhibits significant scientific (psychometric) deficiencies, notably including poor validity (i.e. not measuring what it purports to measure, not having predictive power or not having items that can be generalized), poor reliability (giving different results for the same person on different occasions), measuring categories that are not independent (some dichotomous traits have been noted to correlate with each other), and not being comprehensive (due to missing neuroticism)."
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Oromagi
TOWN
ILikePie5
whiteflame Disturbin' da Peace
drafterman
Lunatic
Speedrace
SupaDudz
warren42
AWoL
Danielle
That1User
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@whiteflame
Fine, I'll get this party started by revealing my character, which doesn't do a lot to reveal my role anyway, because it's at least a little vague. I'm Disturbing the Peace, so I use a public forum to make a scene and/or inconvenience others. Feel free to guess at my role, you probably won't get it.
I guess your role is ANTIFA. So long as you remain in the game, the COP's results are INSANE
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Oromagi
TOWN
ILikePie5
whiteflame
drafterman
Lunatic
Speedrace
SupaDudz
warren42
AWoL
Danielle
That1User
SCUM
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@Lunatic
Oh I know what will piss people off:We should just VTNL today.VNTL
VNTL? Vow Never To Lynch?
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@Lunatic
watched the first ep of The Stand and thought it sucked. I can guess I can cut losoe CBS for 2021.
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@Lunatic
Someone argue with me about something game related, so we can create some discussion!
No thanks. Just got done arguing with some fool outside the noodle shop who didn't want to wait in line or socially distance. Sometimes I wish I had carried a little can of pepper spray laced with smallpox.
I think we should just make shorter days and focus on lynching inactives.
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@Sum1hugme
I don't believe he mangos me very much
wherever my mango
I follow
In fact I was lickin'
some tangy mango ass rash
just da other day.
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@Stephen
I posted a vid and it is irrelevant where it came from. I am not claiming the information is reliable.
Well, okay. My sources are numerous and relevant and generally reliable. Since you won't make the same claim regarding your sources, I suggest that readers should trust my argument more.
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@Stephen
Nursing runs in both my wife's and my own families. At the moment we have family members; nieces and daughters- in- law that are fully qualified nurses. During the first lockdown when hospitals were said to be " overwhelmed" , one of our daughters- in - law and two of our nieces were put on a two day week for the whole of the lockdown period . And there were at least four weeks where they were told not to go into work at all.
So here you have first hand evidence that many people who would normally be working at hospitals are being asked to stay at home during the pandemic and yet you are still wondering why the hospitals look empty. Do your nurse relatives suppose they are being unnecessarily duped into taking paid leave for nefarious reasons? Do your nurse relations likewise believe the coronavirus is a hoax?
And that "11 story" building you spoke of is mainly labs, class rooms and lodgings . With a small out patients on the ground floor that is closed.
I don't know why you've got 11 story in quotes but my sources for the number of floors is GRH's wikipedia page:
"The hospital was rebuilt in the 1960s and eventually incorporated a new 11-storey tower, the work on which started in 1970 and was completed in 1975"
According to GRH's website, all the regular patient wards of this hospital are in the tower block except for pediatric & maternity
Surgical Assessment and Admissions Suite (SAAS)
The Surgical Admissions Suite cares for patients who are having elective (planned) surgery and who are expected to stay in hospital overnight or longer. The unit is located in the main corridor from the Tower entrance, and is situated above the Pharmacy department. There is a lift to the right hand side of the stairway.
Ward 2A
Ward 2A specialises in treating trauma and orthopaedic patients and is located on the second floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 2B
Ward 2B specialises in treating patients who have head or neck cancers and is located on the second floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 3A
Ward 3A specialises in treating trauma and orthopaedic patients and is located on the third floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 3B
Ward 3B specialises in treating trauma and orthopaedic patients and is located on the third floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 4A
Ward 4A specialises in treating medical patients and is located on the fourth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 4B
Ward 4B specialises in treating general and old-age medicine patients. It is located on the fourth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 5A
Ward 5A specialises in treating upper gastrointestinal patients. It is located on the fifth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 5B
Ward 5B specialises in treating general surgery patients and is located on the fifth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 6A
Ward 6A specialises in old age medicine. It is located on the sixth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 6B
Ward 6B specialises in old age medicine. It is located on the sixth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 7A
Ward 7A is a Renal service, helping to centralise the general medical patients that they currently look after on outlying wards and releasing specialised dialysis beds for acutely unwell patients.
Ward 7B
Ward 7B specialises in treating renal (kidney) patients and is located on the seventh floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 8A
Ward 8A treats neurology and stroke patients and is located on the eighth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 8B
Ward 8B specialises in treating respiratory patients and is located on the eighth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 9A
Ward 9A treats gynaecology patients and is located on the ninth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
Ward 9B
Ward 9B specialises in treating general and old-age medicine patients. It is located on the ninth floor of the Tower Block at Gloucestershire Royal Hospital.
According to GRH's campus map, we'd also expect to see the chapel, general offices, patients services, bereavement services coffee, and gift shop on the ground floor of the the Tower Block- all of which are closed during the pandemic.
Where are you getting your information from and why does it seem so very innacurate?
Critical care bed usage in 2020 is LOWER than the three year average!!!!!!!!!!!!
see my request for documentation in prior post
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@Stephen
Full to the brim and in crisis?Princess Royal Hospital, Bromley.Croydon.GloucesterStrange how all three of these hospitals are said to be "at breaking point" yet hardly a soul around in any of them.
I argued that empty is what hospitals look like during a pandemic. You countered, "No, they don't" and yet you have now offered 3 Parler vids from 3 different hospitals demonstrating exactly what I said. I confirmed that I have personal experience with 4 other hospitals in the US that also look like this right now. Everybody agrees that all the hospitals in the Western world look strikingly empty right now. Doctors and nurses and patients and journalists and government officials and my own personal experience testify that this is because hospitals are an important vector for COVID-19. The public facing sections of hospitals are closed to the public as standard best pandemic practice and the hundreds of thousands of people that would normally be occupying those spaces are under orders to stay at home. There is nothing surprising or hard to understand about these empty halls in hospitals.
You have chosen to believe that this serves as evidence that the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax which makes absolutely zero sense. If the pandemic was a hoax, wouldn't hospitals look normal with lots of people coming in for the every day checkups and tests and scans and treatments? Do you really suspect that all the millions and millions doctors and nurses and patients and journalists and government officials around the world are secretly, omnipotently conspiring together to produce the false effect of a pandemic and also secretly emptying out all the hospitals of all the sick and dying around the world for some unexplained reason?
What is your logic here? What is your rationale? Why do YOU suppose all the hospitals have looked empty this year if the pandemic does not explain it?
Critical care bed usage in 2020 is LOWER than the three year average!!!!!!!!!!!!
Citation please. The NHS says they've stopped collecting Critical Care Bed Capacity & Urgent Operation statistics "Due to the coronavirus illness (COVID-19) and the need to release capacity across the NHS to support the response" The Kings Fund only has Critical Care bed usage stats up to Jan 2020. What data are you using to justify this claim?
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@Stephen
NHS daily reports (and many other details) were sourced from the NHS website. I probably looked at forty or fifty sources overall for Debbi Hicks details, etc.
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Oh, Happy New Years
TOWN and scum!
Now is the time.
Get off your bum!
Investigate
what sort of crime
makes nineteen less
than sixty-nine
investigate,
his HacKles raised:
hijackings at
some Chik-Fil-A's?
No ification
just was made
but let frustration
be delayed.
Until the day is
done and played
and Supadudz
ends his charade.
VTL Supadudz
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@Stephen
They are overwhelmed and bursting at the seams.Yes so much so they are dismantling some of these relief hospitalsAND maybe all of the staff and patience at this other overwhelmed hospital are all out celebrating new year
You should read my posts when you get a chance. The phenomenon your video is showing is well explained. Yes, I am preferring NHS daily reports to the investigative output of a 2 minute parler vid. Can you name this hospital? Can you name the person making the vid?
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@Theweakeredge
How would you have reacted to Hilary Clinton winning?
First woman as President. Hooray
How do you think general America would react?
Trump's unexpected win consolidated the left and fractured the right. I think a Clinton win in 2016 would have reversed this dynamic. Certainly the intellectual and moral core of the Republican party would have remained Republican- people like Tom Ridge, George Will, Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Peggy Noonan, MItt Romney, Peggy Noonan, Steve Schmidt, Meg Whitman, Carly Fiorina would have voted Republican in 2018 and 2020. Combined with Clinton's lack of charisma and political baggage, I think Republicans would have retained the house in 2018 and would have been better positioned for 2020. I see Ted Cruz as likeliest 2020 challenger with at least as good a chance of winning as Biden.
Would she be a good or a bad president, why?
Well, she would have been the kind of President America is supposed to want- smart, moderate, well-versed on the issues, decisive, willing to take risks but I doubt she would have ever achieved better than 50% popularity and I very much doubt she would gotten much accomplished in terms of policy. The 3 or 4 Supreme Court appointments would have been the major ideological battles. Mostly, I think it would have been a lot of gridlock, which is not necessarily bad.
How would her presidency affect America?
The left-wing never got behind Obamacare until Trump's win. I think Obamacare would have been far more vulnerable with almost no opportunity to recast the legislation.
Let's recall that Wall St. predicted in 2016 that Clinton's first term would have resulted in lackluster growth and $2.2 trillion more in public debt by 2026 while Trump's policies would result in a two year recession beginning in '20 and $11 trillion more in public debt by 2026. We've certainly seen 4 quarters of recession now and the latest omnibus put Trump's overspending beyond $10 million- probably more like $15-16 trillion by 2026. That is, by 2026, Trump's single term will have proved responsible for about half of all outstanding US debt with almost no public benefit to show for it.
I'm confident that a Clinton administration would have handled the coronavirus better if only because she would have very likely followed the advice offered by the Obama administration's pandemic playbook, the CDC and economic advisors. I don't know if Clinton would have blocked all travel from China by Jan 20 (Trump only blocked foreign nationals on Jan 20 preventing only 20% of travel from China) but she would have very likely halted all travel from Europe before Feb 20, which retrospective analysis suggests would have prevented the spike in New York last April. While I assume we would still be seeing the worst of the pandemic right now, Boston University projections suggest that if Clinton had followed the conventional health and economic advice we'd be dealing with perhaps 15 million fewer infected Americans and about 220,000 fewer deaths at this point. Chances are more resources would have been more targeted to individuals in the bottom half or third of the economy (the only force keeping any Western economy going at this point), improving unemployment and small business failure stats and therefore improving recession recovery time. Nevertheless, I expect Clinton's better pandemic performance would have been far more disapproved since both the left and the right would have howled over those 100,000 dead, making Democrats 2020 chances that much slimmer.
How would her presidency affect the world?
In 20 or 30 years, when historians start to record when China's ascendancy started in earnest, Trump's spectacular destruction of US soft power globally will be seen as a primary factor. Certainly, I think Clinton would have tried hard to resubmit TPP in some new guise, the geopolitical point of that partnership was effectively to create an economic cordon around China. I think most experts agree that Xi would never have declared himself President for Life or blown up Hong Kong's special status under any prior president's foreign policy.
In the Middle East, a Clinton administration would have preserved the Iran deal and probably prevented bin Salman's 2017 coup- improving the balance of power but probably making a Sunni-Shiite showdown more likely. I certainly doubt that Israel would be enjoying these new Muslim relationships which Kushner has forged. I imagine our relationship with Turkey would be much, much colder now. Jamal Khashoggi would certainly still be alive today if Clinton had been president.
Obviously, our relationships in the EU would much stronger than today, with the possible exception of the UK (which is strong enough to weather a lot of disagreement).
Russia would be far more isolated and poorer under Clinton with some real chance of escalation and conflict. I don't find it hard to imagine that a Cold War Hawk like Hillary would have made some ultimatums over 2016 Election hacking, the War in Ukraine, sponsoring terrorism, bounties on US soldiers, etc. If Russian funds had remained on lockdown, we would have seen far less money flowing to the ultra-right nationalists in Europe over the past four years- very likely changing the outcome of elections in Poland and the Ukraine.
I am guessing that both immigration and illegal immigration would have increased during a Clinton presidency, with far fewer detentions and prosecutions and to the general benefit of the US economy.
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I never saw the movies- the premise seemed so silly. I think escape to a more sensible country would be the best option since neither murdering others or being murdered by others sounds like much fun.
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